birdwithteeth11 wrote:I hate bringing past games into this, but I feel given the current discussion, it is possibly relevant. Also Epig, I like you a lot and have great respect for you with mafia. So please do not take this personally, as it is not meant to be construed that way.
In Lost Mafia on RM which just ended (keep in mind I did not play, so take that for what you will), Epig was a civ. Now from my understanding in that game, he helped orchestrate 5 lynches against civs in that game. And I feel in several other games I've played with him recently, he has helped lynch many a civ even when he is a civ himself. I can see how some people who do not go along with his train of thought at times might feel pressured to go with the flow so as not to incur drawing

s from him later. But I feel that as of late, he has been way off the mark in terms of reading people.
Like I said, you may that that as you will and either accept it or dismiss it as ignorant hogwash. But I feel fairly certain that Epig is wrong about TH, and it makes me wonder if he is wrong about SVS. Or even Eloh for that matter.
My point is, if Epig says we should do A over B, I would be more inclined to go with B unless there's a
very good reason to do otherwise.
I know it's Mafia, and we shouldn't get deep, but this has been affecting me since bird posted it.
People do things that make no sense to me, or that I find utterly illogical, and I push for their lynches, and then they turn up good. This has happened so many times I cannot count the instances. Three lingering examples:
In Super Meat Boy, I was Meat Boy, and got killed Night 1. Someone resurrected me, which, as it turns out, was a huge mistake. I didn't get a single suspect right. Not one. I felt as though I had very logical ideas. Shit. The bad team went like 11 Day and Night periods and exited the game in tact. I was so off the mark, I would have done better voting for myself in all the lynches.
In WWE, Mongoose posted in the wrong thread. Now, to me, what she posted didn't even make sense in the context of the other game she meant to post in, and I went after her. Then A Person posted in the wrong thread on purpose (Now knowing his role as a serial killer, that was an absolutely ballsy move on his part, because at the time I thought he was a teammate trying to make the mistake look like a technical problem). I jumped on her, and evil Moving Pictures actually defended her. Mongoose got lynched and was good.
Again, in WWE, there was Hedgeowl. Hedgeowl had admitted to using a new strategy (which I thought was bonkers). She said a few other things I thought were wrong, and eventually she and I consumed the thread with a back-and-forth about me being manipulative, and that I was responsible for the bandwagon that would get her lynched. I just now read back through some of that. Hedgeowl got lynched New Year's Day. She too was good.
One interesting fact I've been thinking a lot about since the Game of Champions started:
In the year 2013, I have been five times a winner, and in every instance as an evildoer. I have never won once as a civilian.
I've been reflecting on this statistic as it applies to how I approach things.
So I am going to lay off Flyin' High because of this. If FH had been lynched and turned out good, I would have been crushed: Another notch in my belt of shame.