Fallout: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game (END)

[birdwithteeth11]

[VOTE: JACK] aubergine but if anybody else wants to kill Sloonei please hit me up on MSN Messenger and I’ll be sure to switch.

You first.

[Sloonei]

Jumping ahead to sprit because I'm opened to run out of the house and he feels like the most urgent case to look at right now

So mac has given up on defending himself or making cases on people he accuses? Or does that not even need to happen anymore because in games I've played lately it seems like people don't have to bother to give reasons anymore. Every time I think mac is bad because he's given up and doesn't care I end up being wrong so I dont know.

As of right now I don't know for sure. I have such a hard time making reads day 1. The exchange between creature and epi was interesting but I thought that about creature and another player before and everyone was like oh that's not weird and they weren't bad so I don't know. Could they be teammates? Maybe but I feel like they wouldn't be that obvious about it.

I feel like Jack and spirityo are usually more quick to go around making accusations and getting people to talk but have been more cautious this day 1. BWT also was quick to say vote epi but didnt and hasnt said much other than that they didnt know if they checked in.

We have yet to hear from oreki colin and dragomir

I dont think I've ever played with TSP before so I dont have anything to go on. Sloonei and LC seem like they're usual selves at this point.
Glorfindel seems to be making an effort to follow Jimmy's guide and be like a super civ. Could be an effort to make sure they seem as civ as possible when maybe they aren't.

hi im reading day 1 finally

i only make accusations when i can back them up. Cautious is also not a word in my vocabulary. Reckless is though

the rest of this is pretty on par for what's going on though.
"mac is doing something weird"
"some people did a back and forth"
"these people are acting different"
"no shows"
"dont know, usual selves, glorf is town"

nothing bad on sabie, but it's cut and dry

This is a nothing response. sprit takes a big long post from sabie and just reiterates the things that she said for no discernible reason and without arriving at any conclusion. He gave a generic self-defense and then vomited up some more words. Bad look.

okay that was easy and with an hour and a half to spare

so quick player salad:


Jackofhearts2005 - N/A
Oreki - N/A
Dragoteeth - N/A
ColinIsCool - scum
Creature - scum
Long Con - scum
sabie12 scum
Sloonei - scum
TonyStarkPrime - town
Glorfindel - town
MacDougall - town

So really my issue right now is why are we only talking about the day 1 events and no one is talking about possible epi killers.

personally reading all of that made me want to lynch epi. but someone obviously felt threatened enough by him either directly, or his presence alone to kill him straight away.

thoughts?

A half hour later, after finding "nothing bad on sabie" and approving of her verbal shruggage, sprit doprs a "scum" gth read on her. The only post he made in between these two posts was to express vague unfavorable reads on both LC and Creature. Bad look.

Does anyone have a problem with lynching creature, does anyone have a problem with lynching sloonei, does anyone have a problem lynching Jack?

And why

sprityo very nearly names all four of the main suspects from Day 2. He's just missing one.

Also I’m breaking my promise to ensure a lynch,

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Because ties make everything better

Votes for sabie, but it's just to ensure a tie.

@Sloonei I did a personal gun to head

Simply a do I like X or not that’s why it’s not a pretty rainbow

What did you not like about all your X's?

Sabie is beaten to death like a horse
Jack was being low lying but I didn’t have enough to say that st the time
You’re just a gut read
LC was giving me jokey standoffish vibes which I think related to him being scum
Colin is being cautious in his words, which is something I know he does as mafia
Creature hasn’t said anything I liked all game

This is the justification sprit gives for his list of scum reads. These words mean nothing to me. Especially that read on me. "just a gut read" is the same as saying "I pulled this read straight from my ass." His reason for sabie isn't really even a reason for suspicion. It's just an observation of her status within the game.

He responded to her lynch sympathetically.

Since then he has done a little bit of vote analysis but not offered any real conclusions. I'd like to know where sprityo's head is at regarding all possible suspects. Because right now it looks like he's just riding the waves in this game. His treatment of sabie was similar to Colin's, but even less vocal. She was kind of a suspect but not really, and I don't think he ended up voting for her.

I could vote for sprit.

[TonyStarkPrime]

2 hours left. Is it this quiet if a top lynch candidate is mafia? Maybe if mafia has committed hard to the shut up and let people fight campaign but generally it seems like we’re barking up the wrong tree.

Well I’m not just all y’all.

[Sloonei]

2 hours left. Is it this quiet if a top lynch candidate is mafia? Maybe if mafia has committed hard to the shut up and let people fight campaign but generally it seems like we’re barking up the wrong tree.

Well I’m not just all y’all.

What other trees can we bark up?

[Jackofhearts2005]

HEEEEEERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAAAAAAAAY!

[Jackofhearts2005]

The fuck is this vote count?

[VOTE: ColinisCool] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

2 hours left. Is it this quiet if a top lynch candidate is mafia? Maybe if mafia has committed hard to the shut up and let people fight campaign but generally it seems like we’re barking up the wrong tree.

Well I’m not just all y’all.

What other trees can we bark up?

I don’t reallt know I’m turning into creature now aren’t I.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah I think jack sounds like a good vote right about now

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.

Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah I think jack sounds like a good vote right about now

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.

Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.

Esp when Sabie was having irl problems and wouldn't be able to capitalize on bussing me anyway.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: JACK] aubergine but if anybody else wants to kill Sloonei please hit me up on MSN Messenger and I’ll be sure to switch.

And here's why Colin is voting for me.

Colin voted with Sabie to lynch me D1. This doesn't make sense as either alignment.

[Sloonei]

I haven't really felt the need to ask myself whether or not Tony is scum at any point in this game. Should I?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I haven't really felt the need to ask myself whether or not Tony is scum at any point in this game. Should I?

Nah. He's town.

The question is if we should lynch Colin or not.

[Sloonei]

I haven't really felt the need to ask myself whether or not Tony is scum at any point in this game. Should I?

Nah. He's town.

The question is if we should lynch Colin or not.

What's the strongest point against him?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I haven't really felt the need to ask myself whether or not Tony is scum at any point in this game. Should I?

Nah. He's town.

The question is if we should lynch Colin or not.

What's the strongest point against him?

Better him than me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Epi rolling his eyes in his grave I'm sure.

[Sloonei]

It is 6 vs 2 vs 1 right now. A mislynch + a kill tonight puts us at 4 vs 2 vs 1 if we assume the worst. That makes tomorrow a probably mylo situation with a mislynch here. We could probably use more urgency. But at the same time I don't hate where my vote is right now. I just wish more things were happening to strengthen our reads.

[Jackofhearts2005]

It is 6 vs 2 vs 1 right now. A mislynch + a kill tonight puts us at 4 vs 2 vs 1 if we assume the worst. That makes tomorrow a probably mylo situation with a mislynch here. We could probably use more urgency. But at the same time I don't hate where my vote is right now. I just wish more things were happening to strengthen our reads.

Gizmo's wincon is secretsed. I'd guess he needs the shop owner dead but if it came down to 2 vs 2 vs 1, it's not like the mafia can just claim and take majority with Gizmo because Gizmo may or may not be able to win with them. Even if Gizmo can win with the mafia, the day plays out like a normal day. Also, I just remembered the mafia can't claim anyways.

Point being, we have at least 2 mislynches.

[Sloonei]

It is 6 vs 2 vs 1 right now. A mislynch + a kill tonight puts us at 4 vs 2 vs 1 if we assume the worst. That makes tomorrow a probably mylo situation with a mislynch here. We could probably use more urgency. But at the same time I don't hate where my vote is right now. I just wish more things were happening to strengthen our reads.

Gizmo's wincon is secretsed. I'd guess he needs the shop owner dead but if it came down to 2 vs 2 vs 1, it's not like the mafia can just claim and take majority with Gizmo because Gizmo may or may not be able to win with them. Even if Gizmo can win with the mafia, the day plays out like a normal day. Also, I just remembered the mafia can't claim anyways.

Point being, we have at least 2 mislynches.

Can't you just let me inspire the town with the threat of eternal suffering?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

[Sloonei]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Why not Colin?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

It's just which of them is less aware of how wrong their vote today is. Like they should both know better.

[Sloonei]

Do I think this person would kill Epignosis and Long Con on Nights 1 & 2?
Colin - YES
Creature - YES
Glorfindel - TENTATIVE NO
Jackofhearts - NO
Macdougall - NO
Oreki/birdwithteeth - YES
sprityo - YES
TonyStarkPrime - YES, but he would have no particular reason to.

[Glorfindel]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

[Jackofhearts2005]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

Glor, can you update us on your readlist?

[ColinIsCool]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

[Sloonei]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

[ColinIsCool]

Every time I get on The Syndicate and have 3+ notifications part of me dies on the inside

[ColinIsCool]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

This isn’t helping your case.

[ColinIsCool]

I’m sorta waffling on my suspicion of Sloonei. I think I had it in 2 with sabie and Jack last round because his backing-off of the Sloonei-recruit-theory makes his support for it feel illegitimate

[ColinIsCool]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

This isn’t helping your case.

[Sloonei]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?

[Sloonei]

I’m sorta waffling on my suspicion of Sloonei. I think I had it in 2 with sabie and Jack last round because his backing-off of the Sloonei-recruit-theory makes his support for it feel illegitimate

So who do you want to lynch?

[ColinIsCool]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?

Mac is more of a thorn in his side than Epi. On a team with sabie having just been defended by Epi that kill doesn’t track imho

[ColinIsCool]

I’m sorta waffling on my suspicion of Sloonei. I think I had it in 2 with sabie and Jack last round because his backing-off of the Sloonei-recruit-theory makes his support for it feel illegitimate

So who do you want to lynch?

The fella I’m voting for

[ColinIsCool]

I gotta go so deuces

[Glorfindel]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

Glor, can you update us on your readlist?

Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.

[Sloonei]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?

Mac is more of a thorn in his side than Epi. On a team with sabie having just been defended by Epi that kill doesn’t track imho

I feel like the primary piece in this theory is sabie. And we know that sabie was bad. I do not buy this.

[Glorfindel]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?

Mac died?

[Sloonei]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

Glor, can you update us on your readlist?

Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.

Convince me not vote for jack

[Sloonei]

EBWOP: Convince me *TO* vote for jack. I’m not in favor of that option right now, but I haven’t completely ruled it out.

[Sloonei]

I do not think we should lynch Colin today. I think Jack is town. I’m working right now if you have questions on this I’ll try to answer before EOD.

Vote Sprityo 2019!

Nah don’t vote sprityo

Why not?

He’s playing as town as I’ve seen him imo. He was a lot more calculated in Retro and probably would have killed Mac N1 imho (sprit can weigh in on this of course). I just don’t see the argument for him.

I’ve definitely seen a more town version of sprityo than this. Why would he have killed mac?

Mac died?

No. Colin is arguing that sprityo would have killed mac instead of Epi Night 1.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Votes will be accepted at XX:00 but not at XX:01. The clock on my computer is the only clock that matters.

[Glorfindel]

EBWOP: Convince me *TO* vote for jack. I’m not in favor of that option right now, but I haven’t completely ruled it out.

I’m 50/50 on it myself right now. My rationale is above. That, and I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.

I still kinda like the Creature option though. I’ll vote there for now unless someone can convince me otherwise.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

Glor, can you update us on your readlist?

Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.

Defending who?

[Glorfindel]

So hmmm

Creature and tsp switched from colin to sabie bear end of day

So for either of them to be mafia theyd have to want to buss their own role blocker which seems entirely wasteful and not likely

Unless, of course we were looking at dual Mafia wagons there. If Creature were ‘the Master’, surely that would explain a bus on Sabie?

Glor, can you update us on your readlist?

Would not vote:
Sloonei

Don’t want to vote:
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime
Oreki/birdwithteeth
ColinisCool

Could vote:
Crerature
Sprityo
JackofHearts

Incidentally, I feel icky about your “Would Sabie do ‘x’” defence and of anyone here, the difference in your posting today (the day the Townie converts to Mafia) is more stark compared to your previous day’s posts.

Defending who?

You.

[Sloonei]

Jack
Creature
sprityo
Colin

[Jackofhearts2005]

I hate the thought of losing this game to him if he is Mafia.

Honestly, Glor. Do you think you'd be alive on D3 if I was mafia?

I'm playing nice but if I was scum, I'd just sidestep the issue and make sure we didn't get a repeat of what happened in Potter.

[Glorfindel]

Yeah I think jack sounds like a good vote right about now

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.

Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah I think jack sounds like a good vote right about now

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

So this is why Sprityo is voting me. Cool cool.

Hey Sprityo. Why would Sabie put me at a tie D1 when she can self preserve instead of we're wolves together? I've solo won twice this year as a wolf. I'm not D1 bus material.

You can not like it all you want but it's the truth.