Girl Genius (END)

[TonyStarkPrime]

I need a new avatar, then because the last 6 months have transformed my life quite drastically...

I have lots of busy avatars available for lending.

Why are people voting Rej?

Mostly because he made a weaksauce case against me and has refused to budge on it or to examine any other part of the game.

That it?

Rej let’s pretend timmer flips town today. Who do we lynch tomorrow.

[Dom]

What do you assume about me?

Bad taste in music.

I stan a king f u

[Epignosis]

I don't know what to think about Drag.

I figured you of all people would know what to think about drag.

[Epignosis]

Timmer had a wagon of 3 votes on him, while I was offline the "wagon" got change on me. It was again opportunistic same as when he gave his convenient answer to my summary question. Would a civillian do that? I just had my eyes open and I am convinced I cought a bad guy. While timmer is playing opportunistic and turned everything against me.

timmer didn't do a thing to move votes from him to you. I moved mine to Creature for instance.

[Epignosis]

Okay, so this is a "bait post" now:

Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

It's literally all the help I can offer, as I haven't read them.

I skimmed through and I had hard times getting reads, so my question, was my civillian way of getting either a short summary or get other reactions out.
A bad guy here would take the most convienient answer to my question just to show activity.

Here, Rej acknowledges that his question could have been "bait."

The key here is thus:

Provide a short summary = Civilian
Give a convenient answer to show activity = Mafia

Forgive me Rej, but does that actually work? You indicate that it does:

So again a civillian, especially one who hasn't cought up himself is telling me to read it myself. I still think it was timmer's convenient way in bringing his own DP forward to look like civillian. I tend to never townread people like him and it's often correct.

I almost never do this, because usually I don't care, but maybe this time it's worth it:

Rej, can you cite other scenarios in which this specific variety of "bait" caught bad guys?

[Dom]

Timmer had a wagon of 3 votes on him, while I was offline the "wagon" got change on me. It was again opportunistic same as when he gave his convenient answer to my summary question. Would a civillian do that? I just had my eyes open and I am convinced I cought a bad guy. While timmer is playing opportunistic and turned everything against me.

timmer didn't do a thing to move votes from him to you. I moved mine to Creature for instance.

lmao literally same

[Epignosis]

To be more precise, I'm looking for something in a somewhat similar vein of this exchange:

Rej: Can someone sum up things for me?
Andre 3000: Man, ain't but four pages. Get yo lazy ass on and read them things yo self.
Rej: Andre 3000 is not a civilian. Lynch him.

People lynch Andre 3000

Dead Andre 3000: Damn, damn, damn , damn (trumpet plays).

Civilians rejoice: "Hooray! Scholarships and candy for Rej! And a plate of yams with extra syrup!"

[Dom]

Rej has currently voted for the non-voter option.

[Dom]

i'm bored.

[Epignosis]

i'm bored.

e4

[Dom]

i'm bored.

e4

you sunk my battleship

[timmer]

So, throwing in the towel, which I assume rej has done with that vote... I gave him a few tries at an out, thinking that if he was civ hed snap out of it, but he never bit, so... I'm not moving my vote.

Plus, tomorrow I have a cuddle party to go to so I may or may not be able to check in tomorrow anyway.

[Epignosis]

i'm bored.

e4

you sunk my battleship

All right. You got me. I laughed.

[Epignosis]

The most useful thing to do at this point, I suppose, would be to ask what we would be doing if Rej was not on the poll.

[timmer]

I've tried to check up on a few players when I had the time. There really isn't much going on that I can point to as interesting. All of you who I know just seem like yourselves so far and the newer names didn't strike me as weird except for rej, obviously.

[Epignosis]

Hello, all! This is my first game here. Here's hoping I don't die N1. And also hoping I didn't jinx it with that. What's the etiquette on this forum for that kinda thing?

Rainy has only two posts, and this is the first.

I'm don't know Rainy, but I am going to go out on a limb here and call the wording of this one post genuine.

[Epignosis]

Also, I too am voting Rej.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I need a new avatar, then because the last 6 months have transformed my life quite drastically...

I have lots of busy avatars available for lending.

Why are people voting Rej?

Mostly because he made a weaksauce case against me and has refused to budge on it or to examine any other part of the game.

That doesn’t make me wanna vote Rej.

[Epignosis]

What does?

[Long Con]

I don't know what to think about Drag.

I figured you of all people would know what to think about drag.

Ah... *kisses finger and thumb tips like Chef Boyardee* Beautiful.

Okay, so this is a "bait post" now:

Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

It's literally all the help I can offer, as I haven't read them.

I skimmed through and I had hard times getting reads, so my question, was my civillian way of getting either a short summary or get other reactions out.
A bad guy here would take the most convienient answer to my question just to show activity.

Here, Rej acknowledges that his question could have been "bait."

The key here is thus:

Provide a short summary = Civilian
Give a convenient answer to show activity = Mafia

Forgive me Rej, but does that actually work? You indicate that it does:

So again a civillian, especially one who hasn't cought up himself is telling me to read it myself. I still think it was timmer's convenient way in bringing his own DP forward to look like civillian. I tend to never townread people like him and it's often correct.

I almost never do this, because usually I don't care, but maybe this time it's worth it:

Rej, can you cite other scenarios in which this specific variety of "bait" caught bad guys?

I am down with this. "I tend to never townread people like him and it's often correct." That's the part that is either provably correct or a crock of poop. Nitty-gritty this mofo. Pony up.

To be more precise, I'm looking for something in a somewhat similar vein of this exchange:

Rej: Can someone sum up things for me?
Andre 3000: Man, ain't but four pages. Get yo lazy ass on and read them things yo self.
Rej: Andre 3000 is not a civilian. Lynch him.

People lynch Andre 3000

Dead Andre 3000: Damn, damn, damn , damn (trumpet plays).

Civilians rejoice: "Hooray! Scholarships and candy for Rej! And a plate of yams with extra syrup!"

This post is ice cold. All right all right all right all right all right all right all right all right all right

i'm bored.

e4

you sunk my battleship

I think we should all take a step back and stop, drop, and roll at this time because you guys are ON FIRE with these posts!!

The most useful thing to do at this point, I suppose, would be to ask what we would be doing if Rej was not on the poll.

This actually makes me feel a bit suspicious of you... it's like, an easy standard thing to say to earn your "Productive Civ" badge. I don't even think this is your usual MO. This sounds like a Sloonei/JJJ kind of thing. Not an Epi thing. You're bad. No one will believe that. Oh well, at least your wit is sharp. Maybe suspiciously sharp.

[Michelle]

@Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Are you a rock? Which one?

Also doesn't look good how happy you are to lynch at random

[Long Con]

@Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Are you a rock? Which one?

Also doesn't look good how happy you are to lynch at random

I did not take Dizzy's request for your lynch seriously. Not sure it deserves any serious alignment-read.

[nutella]

........LC thinks Epi is on fire. Like in a good way.

Man, this Mercury retrograde really hit hard, huh.

[Dyslexicon]

I have lots of busy avatars available for lending.

Why are people voting Rej?

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, Rej is voting Host/Mod option now. Cool, cool. I hope this guy is not town. >_>

[Dyslexicon]

I figured you of all people would know what to think about drag.

I haven't had a gig all summer, ok?

[Dyslexicon]

i'm bored.

e4

you sunk my battleship

Legit lol

[Dyslexicon]

Are you a rock? Which one?

Also doesn't look good how happy you are to lynch at random

I'm migmatite, in the infamous game that mafia couldn't win. =p
Did you play champs game with TrippedOnReality, HATER, Telleo etc?

Also, that post was not serious, because I hadn't read the game. Now that I have, I'm still not against lynching you tbh

[Dyslexicon]

I have no fucking clue what Rej is doing. I was worried that he might be town that just plainly doesn't make sense and clam up. I've seen a lot of town getting lynched for "that doesn't make any sense" - but then they're still town. BUT, the fact that he is just giving up is a really bad look. On the other hand, the game seems quite stagnant and whatever with Rej being a leading wagon by far. I'm not sure it would be like this if Rej was mafia? Maybe other mafia want bussing credit, but also meh. So if Rej is not town I could also see them being an Indy. Would explain why it seems like nobody really cares that much.

Right now I'm suspicious of anyone tiptoeing around the Rej lynch by not talking about it or just "Why is Rej being lynched guyezz?" (Looking at you, Jack). I don't see any town motivation to not get into the discussion unless you're going to something else. This is also why I don't really like Quin.

[mention]Rej[/mention] - If you are actually town here, this is a golden opportunity to gather a lot of analysis and reads.

[Dyslexicon]

Everyone with 10 posts or less is on my naughty list. Would lynch.

[Dom]

........LC thinks Epi is on fire. Like in a good way.

Man, this Mercury retrograde really hit hard, huh.

ha ha
you haven't shared a single thought all game. just posted about how you're not around and made snarky jokes.
what gives?

[Dom]

The most useful thing to do at this point, I suppose, would be to ask what we would be doing if Rej was not on the poll.

ok u first

[Michelle]

Are you a rock? Which one?

Also doesn't look good how happy you are to lynch at random

I'm migmatite, in the infamous game that mafia couldn't win. =p
Did you play champs game with TrippedOnReality, HATER, Telleo etc?

Also, that post was not serious, because I hadn't read the game. Now that I have, I'm still not against lynching you tbh

Nice to play with you again. And yes, i played game 11, a game which town couldn't win.

Do you have an agenda for me i see. Noted this.

[Michelle]

a last question (i hope) for how to use the forum
how to multiquote?

[TonyStarkPrime]

a last question (i hope) for how to use the forum
how to multiquote?

Someone tell me if there’s a convenient way cause I think there are only stupid ways

[Rej]

I have no fucking clue what Rej is doing. I was worried that he might be town that just plainly doesn't make sense and clam up. I've seen a lot of town getting lynched for "that doesn't make any sense" - but then they're still town. BUT, the fact that he is just giving up is a really bad look. On the other hand, the game seems quite stagnant and whatever with Rej being a leading wagon by far. I'm not sure it would be like this if Rej was mafia? Maybe other mafia want bussing credit, but also meh. So if Rej is not town I could also see them being an Indy. Would explain why it seems like nobody really cares that much.

Right now I'm suspicious of anyone tiptoeing around the Rej lynch by not talking about it or just "Why is Rej being lynched guyezz?" (Looking at you, Jack). I don't see any town motivation to not get into the discussion unless you're going to something else. This is also why I don't really like Quin.

@Rej - If you are actually town here, this is a golden opportunity to gather a lot of analysis and reads.

Oh I thought the DP would be far from over. I am out and I have to fiddle myself back into the game. I can do some ISO on the people that voted for me. I think I delivered my concern about Dragomir. Guy wanna lynch me off in two games without big reasoning. How big is the chance that guy is scum in one of both scenarios.

Dragomir and others should know me, I would never go hyperagressive on someone if I wouldn't be town/indie. Also as mafia I would rather sheep my partners, especially in a new enviroment I could never take the lead.

People know exactly my meta and still vote me up..."Dragomir"

Dragomir should townread me based on meta or atleast read me as indie (I AM NOT AN INDIE).

I refused from voting timmer because guy has too much backup and I can't break him. I am not a veteran guy like you, I play for 5 months. Also currently I suffer from a heatwave so I just play convenient and halfassed. I am sorry, if I survive this lynch I will find a way to fiddle back into the game.

Also people really think I am bad, feels like everything I pull off is bad lol. Sry I have a chance of 90% getting a bad role and this time I hit the 10%. *Rough feelings*

[VOTE: Dragomir] aubergine

I like you dyslexicon, you are town because you dig up into my case, either you want towncreds or you rly wanna save a fellow townie from a mislynch. I have never been good saving myself from a mislynch.

[Quin]

I have no fucking clue what Rej is doing. I was worried that he might be town that just plainly doesn't make sense and clam up. I've seen a lot of town getting lynched for "that doesn't make any sense" - but then they're still town. BUT, the fact that he is just giving up is a really bad look. On the other hand, the game seems quite stagnant and whatever with Rej being a leading wagon by far. I'm not sure it would be like this if Rej was mafia? Maybe other mafia want bussing credit, but also meh. So if Rej is not town I could also see them being an Indy. Would explain why it seems like nobody really cares that much.

Right now I'm suspicious of anyone tiptoeing around the Rej lynch by not talking about it or just "Why is Rej being lynched guyezz?" (Looking at you, Jack). I don't see any town motivation to not get into the discussion unless you're going to something else. This is also why I don't really like Quin.

@Rej - If you are actually town here, this is a golden opportunity to gather a lot of analysis and reads.

does 'you're all dumb as hell' count as getting into the discussion because that's all i've got for you friendo

[Epignosis]

The most useful thing to do at this point, I suppose, would be to ask what we would be doing if Rej was not on the poll.

This actually makes me feel a bit suspicious of you... it's like, an easy standard thing to say to earn your "Productive Civ" badge. I don't even think this is your usual MO. This sounds like a Sloonei/JJJ kind of thing. Not an Epi thing. You're bad. No one will believe that. Oh well, at least your wit is sharp. Maybe suspiciously sharp.

I figured there would be a punch line in there somewhere.

Did I earn my "Productive Civ" badge, LC?

[Epignosis]

Rej, I've moved my vote off you to give you some breathing room. Please use the rest of this period (you have a little more than five hours before the deadline) as you would to promote a civilian victory.

[Long Con]

Nah, it doesn't feel like a joke on this end, Ep. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4
3. Nc3 f5

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I have important news for everyone.

I am town.

Thanks for the info.

I'm either town or not town btw.
Don't want to reveal that just yet.
All in good time. ^^

Reminders for cult shenanigans, I guess this means from day to day we will need to reevaluate to see if anyone has changed behavior or not.

Neee to read the whole set up...

I think this is NAI, but my brain is wondering if there is a general pattern for who reads and doesn't read setup descriptions to a certain extent. Or this could just be a filler post, but it was day 0. hmm

Poison Arrives.

Poison is civillian.

Other civillians: Sig, Juliets, Dragomir
All others might be bad.

A lot of reads from day 0 alone. Does that make it a good thing or more suspicious?

Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

Dragomir talking to Rej..I feel I agree with this line of thought

but about 60% of us are all town?

If we hand it like a Nobel prize, we're gonna go full blind when killing the rest.

But Creature reacted almost in defense to Dragomir.

So does that make Creature more likely with Rej or just Creature and Dragomir not likely together?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

what's town?

bad

This sequence is bad probably

no u

Yep you're scum

You're not one to talk about plausible reasons now when you don't even have one yourself.

You're not one to talk about plausible reasons now when you don't even have one yourself.

If you're talking to me: I have no strong reason yet but I'm going to form them depending on how people react.

I'm debating if this is a good thing to say or admit or not. Like town might have strong reasons or feelings, but if you are waiting for people to react I guess I'm thinking like do you have to make stuff up from what others say?

I don't know. I feel like I don't understand this unsureness. Like yeah we could end of being wrong and lynch a townie, but it furthers the game along.

yeah this was day 0, so maybe there's merit to it. But what were you waiting for people to react to?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

crap!! I need to leave in 10 minutes for work. I thought it was later. I should have done more of this last night. I'm sorry.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nah, it doesn't feel like a joke on this end, Ep. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

@TonyStarkPrime

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4
3. Nc3 f5

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4
3. Nc3 f5
4. Bf4

I’m not familiar enough with the gambit to know nonstandard lines so this might go off the rails pretty quickly.

Epi’s an interesting case. He’s pinged me a few other times as well but I don’t think it’s wise to lynch him so early. That said I’m voting for Drago who is maybe? in the same camp. I don’t quite buy the argument though that the appearance is of scum Epi trying to get Town credit there, at least consciously. That doesn’t seem like him town or otherwise. Maybe it’s a shifted mentality thing though.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

*is confused how Dragomir has 3 votes*

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

You need the phenomenon to happen so you can build a theory around it

If nothing is going on, you need to help generate content though. Then again, I probably shouldn't be lecturing someone on how to play.

Why bother finding town?

This is multiball with cults and a serial killer and a town traitor.

Spoiler: show

Are you triggered?

Yes and no, finding town in these setups maybe crucial to narrowing down who to lynch. I'll admit I'm generally looking for scum though. I get too paranoid of town people's who trust me.

I wonder if that's partially from Dizzy buddying me in past games, but that was awhile ago.

Byes!!

[nutella]

........LC thinks Epi is on fire. Like in a good way.

Man, this Mercury retrograde really hit hard, huh.

ha ha
you haven't shared a single thought all game. just posted about how you're not around and made snarky jokes.
what gives?

bullshit I have posted several thoughts. how about you actually read my posts and try again

[nutella]

*is confused how Dragomir has 3 votes*

wait yeah what? I think he's been one of the more townie voices so far but apparently some people disagree

[timmer]

I'd actively like to hear from mr. Dragomir...

I wanted rej to open up a bit about the game, because we've all blindered ourselves as civs at least once, and I thought posts about others might give us a better picture.

Well here he says dragomir should be able to read his meta and know that this is a civ rej move... So, id like to hear about this from dragomir, who sure went quiet after it seemed like this Lynch was a done deal.

The flip side to this? Rej finding only something to say about someone who is voting him is s bit self serving and calculated, so I'm definitely not moving my vote at this time.

[nutella]

hmm let's look at dom's iso and my iso and compare the volume of reads!

dom: 29 posts, many of which are just jokey banter and several more of which consist more of his particular brand of snarky prodding (usually exaggerating an insinuation about a player's behavior to an undeserved extent, such as the one I am debunking right now about my content).
Reads of players contained therein:
1. Suspects sig for appealing to meta
2. Doesn't like nova/creature exchange, doesn't like nova in general, votes nova.
3. Doesn't like the rej/timmer exchange, doesn't like rej in general, votes rej.
4. Not sure this counts as a read but repeated prodding of sloonei for dodging a question or something I don't follow, it's classic dom blowing up a molehill
5. Couple other things that don't really count as reads. Doesn't like timmer "downplaying his prowess," criticizes both LC and me for not producing enough content.

So that's somewhere between 4 and 7 reads on players. I don't know what Dom thinks about many other players. There are a lot that he straight up never mentioned. I'm sure the same is true for me, but I don't think he gets to be on his high horse about this.

Now me: 14 posts, a handful of which are either jokes or mentioning I'm busy.
1. "Drago, sig, sloonei all town. Dyslexicon and creature bad. Quin who knows." That's five and a half actual reads on player alignments right off the bat. In a single post I have reached read parity with Dom.
2. Called out nova for being spicy. Tbf still not sure how I feel about him so maybe that's another half read.
3. Hated rej's content and voted for him. Wasn't sure about timmer's position in the situation.
4. Think Owner is town.
5. Said dizzy could be 3p.

That's like... eight or nine reads.

Basically Dom is full of shit. I know that his way of calling people out for little things is consistent with his town meta, but when I actually break it down and compare it to the rest of his content, I'm not impressed. He's using his nudges to push people into the spotlight to draw attention away from his own hypocrisy.