Escape From Sockville Penitentiary [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

Because I was wrong til now and so I am flipping the board entirely.

[MacDougall]

Nova, Jack and Sabie imo

Huh. What happened to this?

Sprityo is almost bad by POE imo.

I have no town reads anymore and am assuming the ones that are towniest seeming are actually the wolves.

Juliets dying kinda confirms one or both of you as bad imo.

[novaselinenever]

Nova, Jack and Sabie imo

Huh. What happened to this?

Sprityo is almost bad by POE imo.

I have no town reads anymore and am assuming the ones that are towniest seeming are actually the wolves.

Juliets dying kinda confirms one or both of you as bad imo.

Fair enough. I'll stop you from wasting time though, I'm town fam and that's the honest truth lol. Pinky promise.

With that out of the way, let's start with the post I reached townleans on Dom and Sig on top of you. That left me with a PoE of Jack/Sprit/Rej and Sabie. I believe we can clear that PoE and solve the game if it's a correct one.

The only doubt in my townleans lies with Dom.

[MacDougall]

Why was Oreki a townread? I totally missed it.

[novaselinenever]

Why was Oreki a townread? I totally missed it.

I don't remember lol. D1 stuff, think he was around only for that stuff

[MacDougall]

Mmm

And sig still not posted.

[sprityo]

Looking through sabie’s ISO it’s quite minimal, but more so there’s minimal interaction. The most she has is for everyone who is already dead. Not a lot of talk between people still alive.

Rej’s ISO is mostly day 1, all I have to work with outside of that is the couple posts after. He expresses his suspicion of dom and throws shade about the people who Lynched creature. That’s what I got out of it.

[sprityo]

Dom’s commentary at the least has been relevant and helping move the game forward. Though anything past day 1 it would appear he gets really tunnel visioned with the person he think is bad (see drago, mac) I’m giving him benefit of the doubt and assuming he’s one of the cops and not the sane one

Sig is of course not here

Mac “is town”

[sprityo]

Jacks ISO has a lot of memes and joking, but when he is playing he’s clear with what he’s thinking and what he’s trying to accomplish. I like that and it makes him one of the easier players to understand (when he has relevant things to say)

Nova‘s day 1 is full of sarcasm and dismissal, all for the express purpose of pushing Rej’s buttons it would appear. I can’t tell if he ever seriously wanted to lynch rej (or whoever we was referring to) the whole of day 1. Day 2 he spends the first half referring to his own gth, the second half about the Mac/juliets wagon. With one or two mentions of drago, and of course he votes drago. Looking at his iso for day 4 it looks like
Nova almost exclusively talked to/about juliets. Coming to say he thinks she’s town. oh man, then juliets died.
Finally he clears mac because of something unrelated to why everyone else thinks mac is town.

Time to make a list!

[sprityo]

Mac
Dom
Jack
Sig
Sabie
Rej
Nova

Hm, yeah I like this list. Fine with lynching any of the bottom three, but I’m prioritizing nova.

[sprityo]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

[sprityo]

Dom, Mac, Jack. As my top 3 could you guys maybe consider voting elsewhere?

[sig]

Well I joined this game at the worst possible time.

I've read almost nothing, but plan to do that today I'd appreciate anyone who can summarize shit for me.

Also from what little I've seen I'm going out on a limb and saying we need to lynch mac.

[sig]

Lynching rej is dumb, they're inactive and have basically nothing. This means nothing thatll make them seem civvies and nothing that looks scummy. BUT at this point in the game we don't want to lynch someone like that
Total waste of time and a crapshoot.

Honestly? This is the type of shit I'd expect day 1-3 not day 5 when we're about to get got by mafia.

[sig]

Mmm

And sig still not posted.

Tell me why you're not mafia.

[mention]Dom[/mention] tell me why he is mafia

[sig]

Jack I do believe you could be bad. Last time you tunneled me to this extent you were indeed bad and I was as I am now, civ. You apparently missed that I looked at Creature's other games and made a call based on his behavior in this game as compared to those. You aren't listening to anything I have to say about my Day 1 thoughts even though I posted about them on Day 1. I don't believe you are coming from a place of good.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Hmm...I suggest everyone thinking of voting for Mac re-read him, especially toward yesterday's EOD. I think there is something obviously civ that sticks out.

How about we try this?

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

His vote is still on Mac and he said earlier he didn't see what I was talking about. I'm pretty bad at figuring out something like that and I could see it without anyone telling me to look at it. Dom is much smarter than me.

So I will join you in a Dom vote.

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

@MacDougall what about you?

The three things that stuck out from this NKA.

Based off this we should be eyeing Jack, Nova, and Dom.

Jack was a bit further back as was Nova. You can probably discount Nova a bit based off the fact she went with him on a Dom vote for a hot second.


Quin NKA: Really nothing given the flips did throw some shade at Nova, but it was minor we can discount this.

Overall I think Juliets and Drago are 1 and 2 on the suspect list. Sabie, Dom, and Jack can share spot 3.
Any questions? Anything at all? A 45 post limit in 48 hours is almost non existent in a game this size this shouldn’t be this quiet.

Only interesting post from him pre death 2.

Sab, Dom, and Jack

No. Jack has three posts. Kill him.

Only post worth noting

3/4 dead mention Jack
2/4 Mention Nova, but those aren't solid.
2/4 Mention Dom, one is Juliet and she didn't pursue.

World one using basic bitch logic based off of the NKA Jack comes out looking the worst.
Tin foil world, the one I oft reside in, Mac looks the worst for being civ read.

Time to go take a gander through the shit and do a few ISO. Furthermore town needs to get off their collective asses and start posting.

[sprityo]

Mmm

And sig still not posted.

Tell me why you're not mafia.

@Dom tell me why he is mafia

It’s under everyone’s assumption that mac is the other mason

[sig]

Mmm

And sig still not posted.

Tell me why you're not mafia.

@Dom tell me why he is mafia

It’s under everyone’s assumption that mac is the other mason

I hate this posting limit, I can't be nearly as sarcastic, emoji/meme sharing, or general nonsense posts without like posting content to. hisss


Mac has said many many many times that if he's alive close to end game to lynch him. Since he's probably mafia. Ergo I wonder why he's still alive. If this nonsense of masondom is true, which i'll read myself then the mafia would've superkilled him? Would they not.

[sprityo]

Well there’s the fact that claiming is not allowed

Not even hinting


Also 45 posts is a lot more than you’d think.

Most people have been averaging 7-12 posts per phase

[sig]

Well there’s the fact that claiming is not allowed

Not even hinting


Also 45 posts is a lot more than you’d think.

Most people have been averaging 7-12 posts per phase

What's your view of my above post re Mac?

General question who's been pushing the lynches and who's the town leader atm? They need to be lynched post haste.

[sprityo]

I mean, Mac and dom probably next in line for town leader, Mac especially due to his “clear”

Dom really wants mac dead and everyone else either doesn’t want him dead or just doesn’t care because they don’t think he’s gonna get lynched imo.

If you look at end of day 3 and then day 4. You’ll see juliets explain it and jack will follow up and explain why

[sprityo]

Re: your post- I GUESS Mac could’ve just gotten lucky but there’s still another mason alive and no one disputed that they don’t think he’s town, except for Dom. And of course yourself

[sabie12]

So why is dom so hardcore against mac regardless of any discussion happening?
I've felt so unsure this whole game but right now my suspicions are mostly toward jack rej and spirityo. Maybe nova if the town leader theory is to be believed. If jack is bad I think he's doing a good job at blending in and agreeing with the right people at the right time. Like this last end if day when he was kinda accusing juliets but then decided to agree that lc was the right choice and then LC gets mislynched. I always go back to that game where jack tricked me into the final mislynch by lulling me into a false sense of security.
I don't think its mac because I feel like he would have at least somewhat thrown some shade at a teammate by now but all of his guesses were wrong. Sig hasn't been around until now and I don't feel like dom would act the way he has as a baddie.

[sig]

Hi y'all!

He must be bad, such a fake hello. Wait you're telling me town got all paranoid on LC without me to push it? How rude.

also hi im quin and i kind of sound like an asshole when i play mafia

gutread: quin and epi r civs ppl

I don't like this early gut reads are so easy to fake as mafia.

Btw, A new player here so please go easy on me and Good Luck

Hey that's me. Love the avatar love the attitude 10/10 is town the superiesty of all town, his towness will go down in history as being so very town that nobody towned better than he did. Aaaaaaaannd everyone should listen to him if he comes back as a player who's name starts with an S and ends with a G.

I am in need of a replacement if anyone out there is interested.

Rej, Mac, and Sabie. They seem like the type to kill Quin imo.

I just remembered that this game has a post limit. Gotta chill.

I agree with this.

The silence makes me nervous.

Thie is meh, if you were around why not poke some people and do something? Right now it's kinda like hey I'm here, I must be a civ type thing.

No. Jack has three posts. Kill him.

Ignore my earlier 3/4 comment, I wasn't going off when he replaced in. So this was taken out of context.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine
There's nothing town about this guy.

You are my spirit animal. Let's lynch Mac for this fine dead fellow?

sig is replacing Oreki effective immediately.

I’ll most likelt be late with the host post.

I have a rational reason to scum read LC that I can't divulge. It's not a good one but it's a thing.

We can't really for real get into real role shit, but this does ping me for reasons, at this point every knows he's a civ since he flipped, but it was very clear that LC was a civ so Mac going after him trying to not role claim and hint at info is a black mark for sure.

Just fyi Dom I'd say I am getting town reads from players who aren't at liberty to disclose why given we are an infodump free zone.

That and scum.

@sig where the heck are you? You replaced in for Oreki and haven't posted a single time which is highly unusual for you. What's the story?

I started playing Dragon Age Inquisition and suddenly I was 60 hours in and forgot about the world. oops? I'm here now and I'll either save town or destroy it.

Let's lynch Sabie or sig.

Sig subbed in for Oreki I believe. That was a decent townread I believe

Hmmmmm

Sprit, Sabie, Jack, LC and Rej

I mean it isn't like you just rattled off the name of almost everyone alive or anything.

[sig]

Maybe Dom is just obsessed with Mac. Dom would you like to go out on a date with me? Little wine and dine? Maybe a film?

If Dom turns down this offer and you get rich I'll go on a date with you. Or like if I want a green card to Aussie/NZ, but that's not gonna be considered until after this election.

[sig]

It's beyond me why any of you pretend to have fun with Mac.

He's bad. But please lynch me and prove yourselves as stupid as Mac likes to call people with zero repercussions because for some reason you've all decided his absolutely abhorrent behavior is ok.

Mac is fun, I can be my inner salty self with him. BUUUUUUT he's also a giant asshole that always kills me when he's mafia or gets me lynched. I think I need to stand up more ya know? If i have a kill just shoot him day 1 every game that's the only way to save myself and thus the world. Or like airdrop some Emus to deal with him they'll have his nation conquered in a week and beat his army faster than they'd beat the french.

@sig where the heck are you? You replaced in for Oreki and haven't posted a single time which is highly unusual for you. What's the story?

I started playing Dragon Age Inquisition and suddenly I was 60 hours in and forgot about the world. oops? I'm here now and I'll either save town or destroy it.

Let's lynch Sabie or sig.

Sig subbed in for Oreki I believe. That was a decent townread I believe

Hmmmmm

Sprit, Sabie, Jack, LC and Rej

I mean it isn't like you just rattled off the name of almost everyone alive or anything.

quote=MacDougall post_id=549561 time=1564523068 user_id=441]

Does anyone have any reason to town read Nova?

He feels pretty townie and I have a lot of other scumreads.

Jack and Nova team compatible?
[/quote]

I could see this.

Well I joined this game at the worst possible time.

I've read almost nothing, but plan to do that today I'd appreciate anyone who can summarize shit for me.

Also from what little I've seen I'm going out on a limb and saying we need to lynch mac.

This is the guy who replaced the guy with the cool avatar who was making sense. Oddly enough his name begins with an S and ends with a G. We should listen to him.





I'm seeing the Mac shit so I'll set my tin foilness aside for a bit and move forward. I'm thinking Nova, Jack, or Dom is who we should lynch today. I'll be doing an ISO later, but have now skimmed the entire thread.

[sig]

Rej: seems like a waste of time to lynch,
Sprityo: no real read
Sab: I can't ever read her, spent an entire game going after her when we were both civ, so i'll ignore her for now.
Mac: Clearish

That leaves Jack, Nova, and Dom, given we have three mafia members left there's a good chance one of the more active people are mafia.

Based off NKA all three had people eyeballing them so that doesn't really help at all.

[Rej]

Why people hold back on making cases on me? I don't want it! If you think something, speak it out and chase it!
[mention]sig[/mention] and [mention]sabie12[/mention] give me off vibes of being buddies that try to defend me in some underwhelming way.

I came at a point where I don't know whom to trust, maybe novas. I don't know about the others.

Will place my vote on sabie for now
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

[sprityo]

You guys are tickling my vote-tie bone

[novaselinenever]

[mention]sig[/mention] That's not the name of everyone still alive though. It's 4 names out of 8, and a PoE of 4 with 3 mafiosos. Pretty good list. Stop hating lol.

[novaselinenever]

Dom voted and left without posting. Lol.

[novaselinenever]

Nova‘s day 1 is full of sarcasm and dismissal, all for the express purpose of pushing Rej’s buttons it would appear. I can’t tell if he ever seriously wanted to lynch rej (or whoever we was referring to) the whole of day 1. Day 2 he spends the first half referring to his own gth, the second half about the Mac/juliets wagon. With one or two mentions of drago, and of course he votes drago. Looking at his iso for day 4 it looks like
Nova almost exclusively talked to/about juliets. Coming to say he thinks she’s town. oh man, then juliets died.
Finally he clears mac because of something unrelated to why everyone else thinks mac is town.

Time to make a list!

I was on Drago actually most of D1. There was LC and TSP I believe as well. Sarcasm and 'dismissal' is my bread and butter, that's not a bad thing. Didn't you host Bravo? lol. I

wasn't here D2.

I don't remember what I did D3 but I'm sure I talked about a whole lot of stuff, some dumb some alright. Remember talking about LC, wanted to lynch him and Drago too. Also interacted with him the most at EoD and that was a bummer. What does "of course he votes Drago" means?

Yeah I figured she's town, I was suspecting her at EoD3 and her reaction to Jack's push. Got a good feel for her after those interactions. That 0/4 is just an extra clear and get me to make fun of him although I'm doing just as bad.

[novaselinenever]

All in all, that's a pretty shitty summary. You're basically not paying attention to any of the meat of my posts but skimming skimming to get something that looks bad I guess? Like that "and of course he votes Drago" lol. Wtf is that supposed to mean?

Feels like I'm reading the Suns headline lol.

[novaselinenever]

@Sig @Sprityo Stop wasting your time and solve that PoE I gave you. Lend me your power and we shall come back and win.

Sprit you're in it. Sig you're not in it courtesy of Oreki.

[Rej]

does a dom, sig, sabie constellation make sense?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

[novaselinenever]

does a dom, sig, sabie constellation make sense?

Sig replaced Oreki, the latter was good during D1 I believe. Dom had an outburst and appears to still be mad, voting without posting and leaving lol. That stuff speaks to me as townlike, the way he called juliets and I stupid and wanted us to lynch him. Don't think he'd emotionally manipulate us. That's your stuff lol.

I'm currently voting Sabie and she's in my PoE with Sprity, you and Jack. Does their constellation make sense to you from your PoV and being in that PoE?

Also why have you been voting Dom last phase? What's your deal with him?

[novaselinenever]

I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

You can go ahead and remove him. An executive order from yours truly

Also I don't think it's kosher to allude to conversation to the host as a reason to handle someone, no matter what it was about.

[novaselinenever]

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

Disregard.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

You can go ahead and remove him. An executive order from yours truly

Also I don't think it's kosher to allude to conversation to the host as a reason to handle someone, no matter what it was about.

Where’s the rule about saying I discussed something with the host? Hell, every claim is in effect talking about or lying about a message from the host.

The whole point about not quoting role pms and not publicly messaging the host is so that the host himself doesn’t clear anyone and so if there is something only townies were told via role pm, scum isn’t outted by not knowing about it. Since I’m not quoting or discussing the wording of anything and since Sloonei isn’t having an in thread conversation with me, I think this is fine both from a letter and spirit perspective.

[Jackofhearts2005]

*Can’t say I discussed something with the host

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005 What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

I think you’re clearing Sig and Dom too easily. A player I’ve never played with before looking vaguely townie on D1 is not a read I’m hanging the game on come D5. Dom has been known to emotionally manipulate before as a wolf, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

A Sprityo/Sabie/Rej team is possible. I’m not ruling out you, Sig or Dom being a wolf instead of one of them, either.

I’m not feeling real confident about anybody but Mac tbh.

[novaselinenever]

I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

You can go ahead and remove him. An executive order from yours truly

Also I don't think it's kosher to allude to conversation to the host as a reason to handle someone, no matter what it was about.

Where’s the rule about saying I discussed something with the host? Hell, every claim is in effect talking about or lying about a message from the host.

The whole point about not quoting role pms and not publicly messaging the host is so that the host himself doesn’t clear anyone and so if there is something only townies were told via role pm, scum isn’t outted by not knowing about it. Since I’m not quoting or discussing the wording of anything and since Sloonei isn’t having an in thread conversation with me, I think this is fine both from a letter and spirit perspective.

Doesn't it fall under the no info-dumping/no reveals/no hints rules when that discussion is related to clearing/handling someone? Sure it is, but in a normal game not one restricted. I agree that privately PM-ing is always the way to go and discussing it is alright but in an info dump friendly game, or if it's in these kind of games it should be at least not something related to clearing a player.

Anyhow that's just my two cents, we're good though

[novaselinenever]

Jackofhearts2005 What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

I think you’re clearing Sig and Dom too easily. A player I’ve never played with before looking vaguely townie on D1 is not a read I’m hanging the game on come D5. Dom has been known to emotionally manipulate before as a wolf, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

A Sprityo/Sabie/Rej team is possible. I’m not ruling out you, Sig or Dom being a wolf instead of one of them, either.

I’m not feeling real confident about anybody but Mac tbh.

Fair enough, I'm clearing him 'cause I know Oreki and his D1 was pretty townie for most parts. I've been re-reading him and I end up liking the same stuff over again. He had a great energy and was having some difficulties to putting his thoughts into words but the way he kept fighting through it and trying to figure stuff out was nice. I have no real thoughts on Sig himself, so this is based on me knowing Oreki and his D1.

Yeah Mac mentioned that one lol, but meh that kind of outburst is more often than not a civ losing it. It was building up with his prior interactions with Mac, and also how he's been tunneling him makes it believable. I think this kind of it is pretty cheap.

"Instead of one of them" Interesting

Feel good about me

[Jackofhearts2005]

“Interesting”



What is interesting about it?

Lol make me feel good about you then. I had a townread on you mostly for D1 and D3 but if my D3 reads were solid, LC, Juliets and Drago wouldn’t have flipped town.

[novaselinenever]

“Interesting”



What is interesting about it?

Lol make me feel good about you then. I had a townread on you mostly for D1 and D3 but if my D3 reads were solid, LC, Juliets and Drago wouldn’t have flipped town.

It being singular lol. I don't know it's weird. Kind of like what caught my eye about one of Sabie's post when she went from "I" singular reffering to her suspicion of Rej to "people couldn't make a case on him 'cause of his IRL".

I'm town, I promise you that. I think I've been my usual town self in burst when I'm around and been trying my best within my time constraints. It kind of suck though, I've been off as well. That said I really believe that that PoE might be a good one. Like the only doubt I have is about Dom and still it's not a very strong doubt. I might be naive but I want to roll with it tbh

I can feel it in my bones

[novaselinenever]

What's your D5 fresh take on Dom and Oreki/Sig?

[Jackofhearts2005]

What's your D5 fresh take on Dom

and Oreki/Sig?

Pretty good. Nothing really pinged me about his D5. He said some things that looked like they could have been dishonest, read further, then walked them back. Feels fairly town.

[MacDougall]

Jackofhearts2005 What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

I think you’re clearing Sig and Dom too easily. A player I’ve never played with before looking vaguely townie on D1 is not a read I’m hanging the game on come D5. Dom has been known to emotionally manipulate before as a wolf, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

A Sprityo/Sabie/Rej team is possible. I’m not ruling out you, Sig or Dom being a wolf instead of one of them, either.

I’m not feeling real confident about anybody but Mac tbh.

Lynch this guy. He's trying to keep the lynch pool wide. This is scumthink.