Girl Genius (END)

[Epignosis]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

Meh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.

[Epignosis]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

Meh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.

He was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.

It's a fucking act.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

Meh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.

He was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.

It's a fucking act.

So if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.

[Epignosis]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

Meh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.

He was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.

It's a fucking act.

So if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.

If Creature is your teammate, I'm sorry actually.

Rare time I use the word "actually."

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, it appears Dom isn't getting lynched. What is your opinion of Creature?

Meh. Lynch the guy who wants to be lynched unless he decides otherwise? I’m indifferent.

He was indifferent from like seventeen minutes into this.

It's a fucking act.

So if it’s an act then he’ll see that he’s up for lynch and then stop being indifferent? And then he lynch him for that because that’s the scum? Or we just play chicken force him off the bridge.

If Creature is your teammate, I'm sorry actually.

Rare time I use the word "actually."

If I were w/w with creature Creature would be getting something different than the meh treatment.

A revisit: after day 1 lynch I said that either Creature was scum or everyone on his wagon was. I just checked and everyone on his wagon has since flipped to not be on BTSC. Cool.

I think he’s like sixth or seventh most likely to be scum which translates to maybe 30 percent. He isn’t currently contributing much to town but he isn’t gone enough to be a liability to town come endgame. So don’t lynch him? Maybe? LC and Dom and Drago and Owner are all more likely scum in my opinion.

[Epignosis]

I want to lynch sabie.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I want to lynch sabie.

Okay I can get behind this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I want to lynch sabie.

Or [mention]sprityo[/mention]

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

[timmer]

I'll vote creature as 2 people have called this his baddie mo. It's enough for now

[Epignosis]

Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

I don't understand this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

I don't understand this.

Oh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

I don't understand this.

Oh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?

How are the people in each bucket related to each other?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

I don't understand this.

Oh I thought this was a clear exercise but then again I usually do and then everyone is confused. Of these four sets of players, I think there is 1(+) scum in each of the groups. If one group is not likely to have scum, which group would it be?

How are the people in each bucket related to each other?

They’re cousins

[TonyStarkPrime]

One bucket is LC and the people on LC. One bucket is the scummy players who have contributed a lot to the game and have interactions that are prohibitive to all three being scum. One bucket is the skaters. Between those three buckets are the eight players I think are most likely to be scum. On a rough probability scale the other 6 sum to over 50 percent likelihood of scum so I threw that in as the fourth group.

[Long Con]

My bucket probably has scum in it.

I thought it was ...goddammit... interesting that Owner put the vote on Tony and Creature followed suit, and then it turned around later with Creature putting a vote on me, and Owner following suit. I don't know if baddies sheep each other like that, especially when the situation isn't dire.

I predict a Creature lynch, but his disengagement makes him hard to read. I don't have to vote yet.

[Quin]

My bucket has KFC in it.

[juliets]

Good morning Epignosis and [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]. I see you have both put a vote on sabie. Epi I looked through the last 2 pages of your ISO and didn't see mention of her, though I just skimmed through looking for her name so I could have missed it. Tony I'm about to look through yours but thought I would ask you while I'm asking Epi - what led to these votes?

[juliets]

[mention]sprityo[/mention] where are you? You have 3 posts in this entire game - what is going on? You haven't posted in 5 days and I'm having a hard time not considering that scummy. What do you have to say about the game at this point?

[juliets]

There are STILL votes on Long Con and I just don't get it.

I will be around for a while this morning but then I have two appointments starting at noon that will keep me offline until @4:00. I will be here for EOD.

[Epignosis]

I look at whom the mafia have killed and I have to ask who would be afraid of that crew. I think sabie fits the mold. Nobody is talking about her, and hell, I didn't even realize she was in this until she said something. So thanks sabie!

[Jackofhearts2005]

My bucket probably has scum in it.

I thought it was ...goddammit... interesting that Owner put the vote on Tony and Creature followed suit, and then it turned around later with Creature putting a vote on me, and Owner following suit. I don't know if baddies sheep each other like that, especially when the situation isn't dire.

I predict a Creature lynch, but his disengagement makes him hard to read. I don't have to vote yet.

I tend to agree Owner and Creature aren’t teamed for that.

[juliets]

I look at whom the mafia have killed and I have to ask who would be afraid of that crew. I think sabie fits the mold. Nobody is talking about her, and hell, I didn't even realize she was in this until she said something. So thanks sabie!

Ok I understand now, thanks. I took a look at her ISO and it seems odd she didn't post more between the time she came back from vacation where she talks about not having internet (Aug 2) and yesterday.

[mention]sabie12[/mention] what do you think about Epi's vote reason? Also, can you address why on Aug. 2 you seemed to be on your way home to get online but then we didn't hear from you for 3 days?

[Quin]

I look at whom the mafia have killed and I have to ask who would be afraid of that crew. I think sabie fits the mold. Nobody is talking about her, and hell, I didn't even realize she was in this until she said something. So thanks sabie!

Works for me. Quin 1.0 suspected sabie. Not the hardest thing to believe that sabie is bad and deviated from a 'kill active posters' strategy to get rid of him.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir

Change your vote.

Why?

What's your thoughts on the other wagons, Creature, Dom and Tony?

Nothing. Haven't analyzed them.

[Dragomir]

@Dragomir I saw your response to Dyslexicon regarding there was nothing personal in your not answering his question, but I'm still not understanding why you didn't have more to say about Rej. As I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) you and he have a strong mafia relationship in that you mentored him when he first started playing and know his game well. I would expect you to be very involved in discussion about his being scum or civ but all I saw in your ISO was your vote for him and the post Dizzy quoted. Why didn't you have more to say? Did you not recognize his civ meta? Or was he off? Anything you can tell me about this would be helpful.

It is time for me to go to bed but I'm going to vote for Creature before I go. Creature, you may have no interest in this game at all (and I'm sad if that is true) but I have to go by what I see and what I see looks like your scum meta. If you're not bad I hope you'll get with it and show us.

Well, I'm not really that kinda player to be deeply into influencing other player's reads. I've also been apathetic and really lacked any heart to actually get deep into shit. No Rej was not playing his civ meta. He was t playing any meta. He doesn't have one. He's all-around weird as both alignments.

[Dyslexicon]

Oh well, Dyslexicon still hasn't learned at all.

So you haven't missed me?

I'll actually answer this, lol. When I'm bad I tend to be pretty invested in a game, and the last game I played we had a whole set of deliberate "fucking phone god dammit" stuff I was doing, because a teammate was going to impersonate me in a chatroom and it was going to be glorious. But then they died.

I say this because yeah I do sometimes pull shit when I'm bad, but as some kind of fakery my case on juliets would be the lamest idea I ever had.

And juliets thanks for the reply!

I really don't know how to feel about this wifom. Think I'm going to follow my first instinct on you which is town. /shrugface

One bucket is LC and the people on LC. One bucket is the scummy players who have contributed a lot to the game and have interactions that are prohibitive to all three being scum. One bucket is the skaters. Between those three buckets are the eight players I think are most likely to be scum. On a rough probability scale the other 6 sum to over 50 percent likelihood of scum so I threw that in as the fourth group.

What bucket am I in?

I look at whom the mafia have killed and I have to ask who would be afraid of that crew. I think sabie fits the mold. Nobody is talking about her, and hell, I didn't even realize she was in this until she said something. So thanks sabie!

This seems faulty to me, cause you're assuming Sabie specifically would be the one to decide the kills which seems unlikely if she's been gone most of the game, unless she's SK. I don't remember anything from Sabie, and if she flips town it doesn't give us anything. Same for Sprit. Though I do want both to actually post.

[Dyslexicon]

Sabie has 6 posts in the entire game.

I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.

The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.

In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.

Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.


[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.

[Dyslexicon]

[mention]sabie12[/mention] How caught up are you with the game right now and what are your thoughts?

[Dyslexicon]

Sprit's ISO is even thinner. And they replaced in to fill a void. >_>

Nobody is talking about him or Michelle either. If scum is lurky lurkers I'm going to be annoyed cause that's boring.

[Dyslexicon]

Still prefer Creature or maybe Drag. I don't think the defeatist reaction when game picks up and people replaces in is town.

[Dyslexicon]

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] Come back to me please.

[juliets]

Ok, I am leaving for my appointments and will be back around 4:00, plenty of time to be sure I feel good about my vote. I really hope [mention]sabie12[/mention] responds in that time, as well as [mention]sprityo[/mention]. [mention]Michelle[/mention] as Dizzy points out you have not been around either so I would like to hear what is going on with you and what your thoughts are about the game. Ok back later.

[Long Con]

Sabie has 6 posts in the entire game.

I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.

The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.

In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.

Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.


[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.

That is a delicious find, I think sabie might have given away too much by saying that. She's bad, and she knows exactly how many reads nutella has been wrong about, with or without flips. Furthermore, when we lynch sabie and she's bad, it might even give us more insight through re-reading nutella's early reads. Maybe Civ points to those she suspected? That could be going too far though; sabie is capable of misdirecting us to believe nutella had wrong reads, when they were right. I'm using way too many napklns

[Long Con]

I'll join the Sabie vote. [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Sabie has 6 posts in the entire game.

I apologize I dont have much service where I am on vacation.

The case on Lunalee makes sense and I could also see nutella being bad. They both are notoriously difficult to read at times. Lunas response to the suspicion on her was that she is busy and had a lot going on and messed up which is perhaps possible. Nutella response is to get really defensive.

In looking at Luna she originally seemed to be defending rej but then last second votes him openly admitting she just randomly voted because she thought he maybe had one sketchy post which she sort of wasn't really suspicious of initially. Ehhhh It's not a good look even if she is busy.

Nutella has been wrong on a lot of her reads so far but it is in her nature to kinda move around with the flow of the thread. I'm not sold on her being town as of yet but I feel the Luna case is more compelling.


[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

This post is pretty much the only one with content. Pink is kind of sketchy though, cause this was D2 and I think only me and Rej had flipped at that point. So "a lot of her reads" seems like saying more reads, but only two had flipped.

That is a delicious find, I think sabie might have given away too much by saying that. She's bad, and she knows exactly how many reads nutella has been wrong about, with or without flips. Furthermore, when we lynch sabie and she's bad, it might even give us more insight through re-reading nutella's early reads. Maybe Civ points to those she suspected? That could be going too far though; sabie is capable of misdirecting us to believe nutella had wrong reads, when they were right. I'm using way too many napklns

That's what I thought that it may be a slip of TMI. But if sabie is scum I don't know if I want to put too much stock in following a nutella read trail.

[Dyslexicon]

I think I like the competing wagons on Creature and Sabie.

Creature/Drag/Sabie + one of Michelle/Sprit/Dom?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sabie looks bad but not as bad as Creature.

Honestly, Tony’s bucket thing looks pretty bad. Seems like the kinda thing I’d come up with to justify stupid reads.

“I arbitrarily guessed there are +1 scum in this arbitrary bucket. Therefore *bad vote*”

[Jackofhearts2005]

I townread most the players voting Sabie and Creature.

Cool.

[timmer]

Hmm, so if sabie was a nutella teamie she was either a recruit or the mysterious hidden role? I wish I knew what that role did, hitting a traditional baddie where the team still has 4 members would be more to my liking but if that hidden role is gross...

[timmer]

I'm still thinking that the owner creature drag group looks worst, those votes on long con just stand OUT... I'm leaving my vote where it is for now.

[Dyslexicon]

Sabie looks bad but not as bad as Creature.

Honestly, Tony’s bucket thing looks pretty bad. Seems like the kinda thing I’d come up with to justify stupid reads.

“I arbitrarily guessed there are +1 scum in this arbitrary bucket. Therefore *bad vote*”

Yeah I don't get it at all

[Long Con]

I'm still thinking that the owner creature drag group looks worst, those votes on long con just stand OUT...

...like a dick on a donkey!

... that's what a cop told me a few years ago after he pulled me over. "I wasn't, like, hidden up there, you can see me waiting, I'm out there like a dick on a donkey..." One of the few cops I liked. He let me off with a warning as well.

[Dyslexicon]

Hmm, so if sabie was a nutella teamie she was either a recruit or the mysterious hidden role? I wish I knew what that role did, hitting a traditional baddie where the team still has 4 members would be more to my liking but if that hidden role is gross...

I don't follow this. o.o Sabie and Nut teamed would mean Sabie was recruited N1? I guess it's possible as Sabie voted Luna over Nut, but that wasn't really my point. Do we have 1 SK AND another hidden role left? I counted 9 town left now, but I thought we were 10

[Dyslexicon]

Next multiball I'm playing will be less multiball I think

[Dyslexicon]

Cool, I just overlooked a whole Indy role. So we are 6 scum left in the game. Scum the lot of you

[Dyslexicon]

One bucket is LC and the people on LC. One bucket is the scummy players who have contributed a lot to the game and have interactions that are prohibitive to all three being scum. One bucket is the skaters. Between those three buckets are the eight players I think are most likely to be scum. On a rough probability scale the other 6 sum to over 50 percent likelihood of scum so I threw that in as the fourth group.

So by deduction I should be in "the scummy players who have contributed a lot", but nowhere in your ISO do I find any reference to you scum reading or sussing Sloonmeister, and you have not expressed a scum read on me either. You also have a direct comparison to Dizzy.01. So what's scummy about me?

[Jackofhearts2005]

At least Tony probably not wolfin with Dom.

[Dyslexicon]

At least Tony probably not wolfin with Dom.

Raisins?