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Fayt may be defended here as scum mate or to be pocketed. I can't take this post as valid to scum read her.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?
Nova asks here a thing not very well related with the initial post from what i see, the asnwer is okay-ish but it feels like an interaction made just to have an interaction. Not game related, something general and with no further questions.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pmSure, if yer a nob.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pmIs the discomfort and waffling something to scumread there?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?
Someone new to the forum is going to be unsure and discomforted.
A mocking post where all his Poe is made by townies.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 pm LC, nutella, Sprit, TSP, Dragomir, and Michelle. JJJ can be subbed in for either of the last two if I'm wrong about the reliability of character calls.
Oh no is it a salad
@JaggedJimmyJay It's your favorite, POE! Come get it, boy. *whistles*
And here he posted an OK for Fayt. And Epi
no but i can link you my MU gamesnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:51 pm Has Michelle played another game here that isn't Girl Genious?
Day 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.
idk if that was the last second. But why a vote on host and not on another scumread in your Poe?Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:30 amDay 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.
Yeah link a few, if you can please.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:12 amno but i can link you my MU gamesnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:51 pm Has Michelle played another game here that isn't Girl Genious?
Because that was the town's plan was to tie us up. It got really messy at the end because I was on JJJ. But when Drago moved from JJJ to Dom, it was going to make JJJ: 4 and me: 3 so I panicked and couldn't find another target before the polls locked. I went to no vote and Drago moved to Dom and then it got locked.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:36 amidk if that was the last second. But why a vote on host and not on another scumread in your Poe?Fayt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:30 amDay 3 was the tie plan between me and JJJ. I originally thought that would clear me or JJJ but I was wrong. The mechanic doesn't clear anyone. At the time the votes were me: 3 and JJJ: 3 but then Dragomir switched at the last second to JJJ so it made me: 3 and JJJ: 4.
I was prodding him 'cause how he worded the last question felt weird.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:55 amNova asks here a thing not very well related with the initial post from what i see, the asnwer is okay-ish but it feels like an interaction made just to have an interaction. Not game related, something general and with no further questions.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:58 pmSure, if yer a nob.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:57 pmIs the discomfort and waffling something to scumread there?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:46 pm I don't want to lynch Fayt. Their posts imply a great degree of unfamiliarity with this whole mess. Is there something there to scumread aside from discomfort and waffling?
Someone new to the forum is going to be unsure and discomforted.
The game related thing was Fayt alignament. I will check in Nova's Iso if he posted more about this thing back then.
the bolded gives me pause tbh
in the following post Speed says he don't want to lynch Fayt. In the thread's flow this looks worse for Fayt Because Nova was saying something pro-Fayt 2 minutes before and the necessity of the defence coming from JJJ voting for Fayt was not needed if Fayt were villager .novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:44 pm I like Fayt. They seem to be unsure about a lot of things and trying to go through different scenarios and how that would affect their stances. I don't feel like it's some manipulation or with ulterior motives to keep their options open, especially with how they seem to stumble to articulate their thoughts. It strikes me as natural, and not something fabricated.
is natural for mafia to ask this about a mate?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:55 pm How do you feel about Speedchuck after his response to your iso?
I believe Drago played with her more I think and here he was trying to case her. It looks ok, I can see his first points. It's the same vibe I got D3 when she was going after Jay, she's been a little bit in the background at times. Although she was the only one pushing LC during D2 so I'm not sure. The second point I disagree there, it's one of the pros I have on her rn. It was too bold for teammates tbh and felt more like she had no idea what was going on so maybe rej really did pocket her. Also I can see someone trying to save a player they townread over another player, it makes sense. I'll need to re-read the Drago progressionDragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:17 pm So here is why Michelle is bad.
1. Her reads and "pushes" have been her just piggybacking off of others. She was just a supporting role, never a force in the decision of a wagon being created and all of her scum reads only arrived after others have suspected the said player. Thus the supporting role she has been. The only I guess original, if that, was the Fayt vote. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 70#p556470 this was based on pure bullshit. Just pure bs. I can't count this. It's still a supporting role push cause it only came after LC taked about Fayt being a potential cat.
2. She tries to cover up her siding with Rej as pocketing when there was no such thing. Rej only mentioned her like twice and that was to ask for thoughts. The only thing else was that gth "ok" read he gave to her and multiple other players. You cannot tell me you'd be pocketed cause of this. Here, read. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 85#p554985 http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 63#p555063 I don't buy it. Especially the last one, no reads of her own, just sides with Rej cause she town reads him. Shit, if that doesn't sound like 2 scum buddies trying to help each other, I don't know what does.
3. Her progression of reads on me is asinine. I know this sounds like omgus. I don't care. The progression was scummy. So I will use it against her. She went from a hard town read on me http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 21#p556021 to scum reading me. Yes, I know that reads can change but for her, there was just no progression in it. It was sudden. This also supports the supporting role theory I have on her as she's just been supporting the notion of me being scum. If half the players in this game didn't sus me last DP, she wouldn't either. I guarantee it.
Now, this is my case. Make of it what you will.
I am a free villager always. My interaction with JJJ was because he wanted to restrain my freedom by putting me in the Poe.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:24 am Hmm that scum game reminds me of GG. You seem to be kind of under the radar as scum, and have a serious attitude in a down to business way. Also shy with your votes looks like. Kind of different from the vibes I was getting early on here with a more free attitude and interactive.
You can't ISO as a non-member I think. If you are, iso-ing is just like any xenforo forum with that top right+enter member name+tick the 'search this thread' box.
His role was town that game where the flip is not revealed. I can't seem to find the search option on mobile as non member. You would have to log in and then use the search function and then use 'Posted By Member' search and check search in this thread
When are you leaving? I have classes in a bit but I should be back before EoD.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:45 am my time to play is short, i have few homechores i need to do and after i will go to the theatre and that may end after endgame
From all i have read until now my honest thoughts towards Nova changed since this morning because i found few ideas that doesn't fit as scum behaviour. I started by suspecting him tbh because he voted Dragomir in the last day, the same Dragomir he defended in the previous day.
Side note, Dragomir was host in 2 games on my site one where i played as independent in an original setup and one as villager. My playstyle is always changing and his meta read is old. The Tos game we played recently is not valid as meta because i had just few posts and suceeded to mantain my town presence in little words.
I linked you my last town game because of that.
i reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Because of the info Nutella shared and Mac's case, and how he didn't bother defend against them afterwards. I started to doubt him and thought maybe my meta read and feelings are wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 ami reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Why you voted yesterday for Drago after you had him as villager in the previous day?
Are the posts i consider townish from you out of your scumrange?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:17 amBecause of the info Nutella shared and Mac's case, and how he didn't bother defend against them afterwards. I started to doubt him and thought maybe my meta read and feelings are wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 ami reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Why you voted yesterday for Drago after you had him as villager in the previous day?
Yep.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:19 amAre the posts i consider townish from you out of your scumrange?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:17 amBecause of the info Nutella shared and Mac's case, and how he didn't bother defend against them afterwards. I started to doubt him and thought maybe my meta read and feelings are wrong.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:14 ami reformulate and please answer and don't send me to search because i have zero time left:
Why you voted yesterday for Drago after you had him as villager in the previous day?
Epi was also universally townread himself, and his kill is why I've been iso-ing him. He had both of you as scum, but you as a maybe. I'm torn there.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:23 am Tbh i could read exactly nothing. I am as dumb as i was 12 hoirs ago.
Dragomir last read on Fayt was villager. The fact that anyone else didn't vote for Fayt and didn't brought up she is scum is not helping at all.
And Nova is like umiversally town read. Exactly this is a problem by itself Do scum kill Epi before Nova?
in a way yes. Each time i rand scum RL comes as demanding and i finish by making a fool out of myself itt by low posting and defending myself by Ate-ingnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:22 am Michelle you seem to be way more active in that MU town game compared to the scum one and Genius Girl on here. Is activity usually alignment indicative for you?
Hmmm that's kind of the vibe I was talking about. The free attitude that I liked early on. Your activity here is a little bit different than both, seem more active than the scum games a bit, but not as active as town.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:26 amin a way yes. Each time i rand scum RL comes as demanding and i finish by making a fool out of myself itt by low posting and defending myself by Ate-ingnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:22 am Michelle you seem to be way more active in that MU town game compared to the scum one and Genius Girl on here. Is activity usually alignment indicative for you?
(Ate= appeal to emotions)
As villager i always find moments to say something even of it's an idiocy like at Eod 1 here.
Dragomir wanted to lynch you or me though.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:23 am Tbh i could read exactly nothing. I am as dumb as i was 12 hoirs ago.
Dragomir last read on Fayt was villager. The fact that anyone else didn't vote for Fayt and didn't brought up she is scum is not helping at all.
And Nova is like umiversally town read. Exactly this is a problem by itself Do scum kill Epi before Nova?