Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Who is the feline who is posing as a dog, anyway?

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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Good game, Doggy D. Luffy!
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Dragomir wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:06 pm Btw, good shit Nova. I'm never town reading you again.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Someone gimme the link to the dead chat
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thanks, was a fun read
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Well played Nova, congrats cats!
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Thanks for the invite to the dead chat. The only active dead chat ever and I don't get an invite lol.
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Dang, I should have watched this game! Congrats to all three Fayt, Michelle, and Nova for reaching f3 and congrats to Nova, speed and Rej on the win. Also I see nutella vigged speed so gg. Those are the things I see on the last page, at least.
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:37 pm Thanks for the invite to the dead chat. The only active dead chat ever and I don't get an invite lol.
Oh I apologize, my week has been completely full of stuff so I forgot about it.

I did remember around lunch time, but then Syndicate ramdomly decided not to let me send PMs with my phone (it has been doing that for years now).
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 6]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 6]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7
There's nothing wrong with the strategy lol. It isn't perfect; nothing is.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:13 am Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.
Second dumbest lynch in the game.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:13 am Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.
Yes I remember. This kind of mislynches made wary that a townie have to be self conscious about his posts like not 'idc what i'm saying, i am town anyway' but 'will I be scumread if i say this'? Because your test was awesome but the fact you gave RL details about how you made it on office on computer and so on, that was a big question mark and made everyone to tinfoil you.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 6]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:12 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7
There's nothing wrong with the strategy lol. It isn't perfect; nothing is.
It is wrong to stick with it because it may be totally wrong. I noticed it on the other part, as mafia, the power of a wrong Poe and the importance of the strong oppinion of dead villagers.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 6]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.
lol I'm sorry, you played great.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:20 amtownie have to be self conscious about his posts like not 'idc what i'm saying, i am town anyway' but 'will I be scumread if i say this'?.
It's always unfortunate to be in this position. A civilian ought to be able to spew out whatever thoughts they want without concern, and most of the time that's me. The last two games though (Persona 5 and this one), I have been wrongly suspected to such an extreme degree that I have actually felt the need to review my own innocent posts with the worry that some stupid small detail will set someone off. I'm rarely even that careful when I'm evil! :smile:
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [Day 6]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:23 am It is wrong to stick with it because it may be totally wrong. I noticed it on the other part, as mafia, the power of a wrong Poe and the importance of the strong oppinion of dead villagers.
The grouping should be changeable, certainly. If someone refuses to change the POE group then they're asking to lose. Credit in this case to nova for consistently keeping himself out of the POE by the numbers. There were always at least four civilians who looked worse to me. In the end I should have featured him instead of MacDougall, but oh well. Mac and I getting into a game-long mega-tiff is bound to generate an error like that.
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs XD
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The response to that experiment (my reveal thereof) genuinely surprised me. I figured I would field some token tinfoil, but I didn't anticipate it just completely convincing people immediately that I'm evil. Shrug
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Re: Dogs vs. Cats [END]

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novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs XD
It definitely was bs. What I actually thought was the most likely result of the experiment (other than nothing at all) was me getting shot. I was okay with that being suspected anyway since I was just the Mutt instead of the full-time cop. It was a sort of cover.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am The response to that experiment (my reveal thereof) genuinely surprised me. I figured I would field some token tinfoil, but I didn't anticipate it just completely convincing people immediately that I'm evil. Shrug
I guess it was the universe making up for the TH kill who ended up haunting us with all the soft confirms XD
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:36 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs XD
It definitely was bs. What I actually thought was the most likely result of the experiment (other than nothing at all) was me getting shot. I was okay with that being suspected anyway since I was just the Mutt instead of the full-time cop. It was a sort of cover.
Yeah if we hadn't a hard result on you, I'd peg you for the cop for sure. But with the happenings of D2, I wanted to keep you alive for people to give you shit :smile:
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

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lol it's alright. I'm not mad, it was still fun. Nova played well.

At the end of the day, I only have myself to be blamed for being sussed so much. I had a deep wolf theory back on day 3 but I didn't have the guts to push it hard against Nova until it was too late. I think I was just praying to myself that it's not Nova but haha that was a mistake too. I tried so many ways to see if I can clear myself but I was always in someone's poe lol. :fist:
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off. :goofp:

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

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Nah let Nova live, he's a great scumhunter.

Just try to internalize the moment you almost caught him. Mac and nutella thought he looked too clean. That's what scum nova looks like.
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Town nova is a restless tunneler. He picks a target and never, ever lets go. He could decide you are suspicious on day 1 and go back to it on day 8.
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Just a fun fact :haha:

Another way to phrase it is

Ive never survived a Job/Full game to the end as a civilian
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Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts. :srsnod:
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:57 am Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts. :srsnod:
I think you need to readjust your metrics then. If you can't read sprityo with his low post count, stop trying to read sprityo and wait till he has more posts.

Trying to read people we can't read is what causes mislynches. I got better at this game when I learned to come to terms with my limitations.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:09 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:57 am Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts. :srsnod:
I think you need to readjust your metrics then. If you can't read sprityo with his low post count, stop trying to read sprityo and wait till he has more posts.

Trying to read people we can't read is what causes mislynches. I got better at this game when I learned to come to terms with my limitations.
That’s just it really. Within my POE, it’s often not a “read” as much as the absence of a read. Can’t wait forever! That’s how mafia sprityo squeezes through in blend mode until it’s too late to finally deal with him.

This isn’t to blame sprityo. Everyone play however the hell you please. I’m just not sure the other civilians can win here. :smile:
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There’s also the basic struggle that the low post count may never actually change — at least not enough to make it readable. It’s not the raw number either as much as what’s in them. One giant shrug.
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I gotta say, watching you guys in the spec chat accuse everyone but Nova was super fun.

So yeah it's really a fantastic performance by him. Would take some tinfoiling to take him down.
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I feel like we should policy lynch Jay D1 each game just to get him out of the way.
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novaselinenever wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm We did it my fellow cats.

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gj cats, also dogs well played
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My favorite thing about this game was how friendly yet competitive it was. No one had a meltdown or got their feelings hurt and everyone played hard.

My least favorite thing was getting murdered night 1... And I protected NOVA :doh:
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Rej wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:38 pm
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speedchuck wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm
Rej wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:38 pm
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Turnip Head wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:08 pm My favorite thing about this game was how friendly yet competitive it was. No one had a meltdown or got their feelings hurt and everyone played hard.

My least favorite thing was getting murdered night 1... And I protected NOVA :doh:
Yeah this game was very friendly, congratulations people!
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