Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:34 pm
Elephant is... god.
It's very obviously a character and my eyes just glaze over when I read his posts, but I would bet a dollar he's like this regardless of alignment so he's just going to be a PITA to play with. Really hope he's not town. Might be town anyway. Where's the fricking sigh emote when you need it.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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I super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 amThis is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
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Could you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pmThanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pmOk @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.
There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
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I'm not talking about role abilities, I'm talking about alignments.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 pmHere's what JJJ said in the OP:Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pmThanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pmOk @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.
There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
"Characters are randomized and have no connection to role abilities. You can even role play if you like."
So I read that as you can't tell from the character what the role abilities are.
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Fair I guess but it’s also see Drago’s point. Iaafr threw out a rainbow with maybe half a dozen controversial reads. I think it’s town because of this shift on Mac and 112, plinko theory suggests that scum doesn’t make such significant shifts like that without a clearer game planEvenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pmI super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 amThis is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
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Here’s how I see itDragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:40 pmI'm not talking about role abilities, I'm talking about alignments.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 pmHere's what JJJ said in the OP:Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pmThanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pmOk @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.
There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
"Characters are randomized and have no connection to role abilities. You can even role play if you like."
So I read that as you can't tell from the character what the role abilities are.
A game was designed with blank power roles associated with alignment
Then 29 characters were completely randomly matched to roles
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I see, so you're mafia and iaafr is town? Cool.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pmI super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 amThis is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
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Ok, so you think an evil character can be town then and vice versa?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:45 pmHere’s how I see itDragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:40 pmI'm not talking about role abilities, I'm talking about alignments.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 pmHere's what JJJ said in the OP:Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pmThanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pm
Ok @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.
There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
"Characters are randomized and have no connection to role abilities. You can even role play if you like."
So I read that as you can't tell from the character what the role abilities are.
A game was designed with blank power roles associated with alignment
Then 29 characters were completely randomly matched to roles
I am the Elephant.
post 716 http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 03#p558403Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:30 pm What I was saying. In post #716, Im suspicious over elephant's rebuttal to MR. The tone just feels Wolfy - I know I haven't played with this guy so I'm not too concerned over that.
But I also don't like how he's honing in on very very minor discrepancies in MR's game (like stuff common to all villagers), and using that as a means to discredit his argument and push a scum read. Idk, seems like the kind of tactics I use as a wolf.
I am not pushing a scum read here, I am still investigating, and I have especially said that I am trying for a town read and that I am not getting it. That you are trying to interpret this as a scumread is something I very much don't like. Obviously I am aware that everyone can be part of a misunderstanding. I believe this shows clearly in my post. But I am not willing to leave it uninvestigated.
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[mention]Dragomir[/mention] I think the only way for you to know for sure what Jay is saying about alignment matching character is to ask him. I think alignment is not related to character but maybe I'm wrong.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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I don't really see the point in making character claiming legal when your character isn't alignment indicative. So I do believe in good characters being town, bad characters being scum. And with that being said, safe claims are probably a thing this game. This is technically a tinfoil but it's very logical in my eyes.
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Who is Glorf, and why aren't they an elephant?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:35 pm It’s like playing with Glorf if Glorf were an elephant
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Creature, I checked my ISO and yesterday I was here from 2:02 p.m. until 10:36 pm. Today I've been around since 7:54 am. So I'm unclear where the drop off was.
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[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] [mention]Sloonei[/mention] Are our characters indicative of alignment?
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Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:50 pmBenson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:30 pm What I was saying. In post #716, Im suspicious over elephant's rebuttal to MR. The tone just feels Wolfy - I know I haven't played with this guy so I'm not too concerned over that.
But I also don't like how he's honing in on very very minor discrepancies in MR's game (like stuff common to all villagers), and using that as a means to discredit his argument and push a scum read. Idk, seems like the kind of tactics I use as a wolf.
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I am not pushing a scum read here, I am still investigating, and I have especially said that I am trying for a town read and that I am not getting it. That you are trying to interpret this as a scumread is something I very much don't like. Obviously I am aware that everyone can be part of a misunderstanding. I believe this shows clearly in my post. But I am not willing to leave it uninvestigated.
I should have been more clear: I meant to imply that I thought you were laying the groundwork for an eventual scum read on MR; not that you were scumreading him at that moment per se.
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Glorf is famous for not discussing his alignment because he refuses to say he's town if he's not.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:52 pmWho is Glorf, and why aren't they an elephant?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:35 pm It’s like playing with Glorf if Glorf were an elephant
That's all I know though. I currently don't know this game's rules, the point system, or my alignment. Will figure those out and come back.
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@Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that
@Elephant A player who, from what I’ve gathered, doesn’t lie and kinda talks like you and has a distinct posting character. He’s not an elephant cause he’s an elf.
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I can confirm that I am an elephant regardless of alignment. Have an elephant god.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:34 pmElephant is... god.Spoiler: show
It's very obviously a character and my eyes just glaze over when I read his posts, but I would bet a dollar he's like this regardless of alignment so he's just going to be a PITA to play with. Really hope he's not town. Might be town anyway. Where's the fricking sigh emote when you need it.
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Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pmCould you please roleplay your character? A paragraph should suffice.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pmThanks Drago I'll think through this while eating lunch.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:04 pmOk @juliets since you're confused lemme clear up my suspicion against 112. So my belief of there being fake character claims came from this post. The roleplaying character thing pings me hard for reasons being that there's a manipulative edge to it. I only see one perspective to why someone would do this is the scum perspective. Role-play your character in order to make it more believable if you got to claim it. Get ppl in the mindset that your character is this person thus clouding them from looking too much into the actual claim.
There's no town perspective to it imo. Why should town bother themselves with roleplaying their character? All I can see it is for manipulative purposes to set something up in the future. Unless your role requires the role-play, which I don't think is the case for 112 here.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
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Well that 112 read goes to shit now.
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I am very much laying the groundwork for an eventual scum read. An investigation that can not support either a town read or a scum read is fluff. An investigation that only works towards one of these ends is biased. I have asked Master Radishes to answer my original question, and to explain the thinking behind his own question. What do you recommend I should have done instead?Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:54 pmElephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:50 pmBenson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:30 pm What I was saying. In post #716, Im suspicious over elephant's rebuttal to MR. The tone just feels Wolfy - I know I haven't played with this guy so I'm not too concerned over that.
But I also don't like how he's honing in on very very minor discrepancies in MR's game (like stuff common to all villagers), and using that as a means to discredit his argument and push a scum read. Idk, seems like the kind of tactics I use as a wolf.
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I am not pushing a scum read here, I am still investigating, and I have especially said that I am trying for a town read and that I am not getting it. That you are trying to interpret this as a scumread is something I very much don't like. Obviously I am aware that everyone can be part of a misunderstanding. I believe this shows clearly in my post. But I am not willing to leave it uninvestigated.
I should have been more clear: I meant to imply that I thought you were laying the groundwork for an eventual scum read on MR; not that you were scumreading him at that moment per se.
You have also noticed that I have been explicitly bringing up that a continued failure to answer has consequences for my perception of Master Radish's alignment. This is pressure. Your intervention here creates counterpressure on me, and therefore defends Master Radishes to a certain degree. Is this defense an intended effect, and if so, why did you do it?
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This is actually somewhat spicy. I definitely don't have the strongest townread of Mac so far, so I'll remember to be wary and on the lookout for minor discrepancies in his tone. When we're both town I tend to mindmeld with him a lot and it can almost look like one of us pocketing the other but it's a bad sign if that doesn't happen naturally or if he tries to force it.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:36 amWhy is Mac going out of his way to do research on Jack that makes him look better? Super OOC from what I saw in WC1 and finals. This Mac feels soft and fuzzy with a side of poop jokes. Finals mac was hard and flinty with a side of dick jokes. Very different flavours and oh god why did I give myself that mental image.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:16 am It was Fallout that you did it. You were an indy. I also looked at Arrowverse where he was scum and you were town and you didn't give him any town reads at least for the first couple days. Makes me feel good about you... maybe even Creature a bit since your radar on him is demonstrably good.
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Elephants can be elves. I can lie, but rarely do so.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:59 pm @Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that
@Elephant A player who, from what I’ve gathered, doesn’t lie and kinda talks like you and has a distinct posting character. He’s not an elephant cause he’s an elf.
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this is adorableElephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:29 pmElephants can be elves. I can lie, but rarely do so.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:59 pm @Drago Yes but my character is also like I’m not sure if it would be good or bad anyways it isn’t like that
@Elephant A player who, from what I’ve gathered, doesn’t lie and kinda talks like you and has a distinct posting character. He’s not an elephant cause he’s an elf.
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In drakengard I had to worry about getting ITA'd by some moron.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:28 pmYou certainly look happier here than in Drakengard.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:59 am~~Not A Champs Game~~Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 am@Evenstar, you seem to have been enjoying yourself here. Why is that?Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar
so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.
that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.
should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P
Also any game with 30 players in it is de facto a mash, I have licence to fuck around
(and my normal tactic of claiming something ridiculous D1 is of limited applicability here)
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The tone is fairly standard but his reads are usually better than this IMO.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:28 pmThanks, I saw the incoherent reads and the tone as his normal behavior but I have not seen him in an in-game setting. I'll re-read his ISO with your points in mind.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:24 pmFeels like he's trying to pocket 112, incoherent reads, tone is off. I do not like it sam I am.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:00 am Can someone who is seeing @iaafr as scum talk about their read? I know some people have changed their mind on him so I'm not exactly sure where everyone stands. I tend to agree with Master Radish. I said earlier he was behaving like he did in spec chat just wasn't ready to call that town until MR's post. Anyway, I would appreciate understanding why some think he's bad.
Also, Epi has been called town and I read his ISO to see if I agreed. I think it's a bit early to town read him, he is tricky. I need more posts to make a read there, I'm just advising caution for now.
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Re: I am the Cat
I'm not giving you recommendations for how to play. I just thought the manner in which you targeted MRs content looked more like a wolf trying to discredit and to build a case for a possible mislynch. This is because it seemed like you were nitpicking on things that are usually nai. But ofc, your questioning can simply be a villager doing his due diligence.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:22 pmI am very much laying the groundwork for an eventual scum read. An investigation that can not support either a town read or a scum read is fluff. An investigation that only works towards one of these ends is biased. I have asked Master Radishes to answer my original question, and to explain the thinking behind his own question. What do you recommend I should have done instead?Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:54 pmElephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:50 pmBenson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:30 pm What I was saying. In post #716, Im suspicious over elephant's rebuttal to MR. The tone just feels Wolfy - I know I haven't played with this guy so I'm not too concerned over that.
But I also don't like how he's honing in on very very minor discrepancies in MR's game (like stuff common to all villagers), and using that as a means to discredit his argument and push a scum read. Idk, seems like the kind of tactics I use as a wolf.
post 716 http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 03#p558403
I am not pushing a scum read here, I am still investigating, and I have especially said that I am trying for a town read and that I am not getting it. That you are trying to interpret this as a scumread is something I very much don't like. Obviously I am aware that everyone can be part of a misunderstanding. I believe this shows clearly in my post. But I am not willing to leave it uninvestigated.
I should have been more clear: I meant to imply that I thought you were laying the groundwork for an eventual scum read on MR; not that you were scumreading him at that moment per se.
You have also noticed that I have been explicitly bringing up that a continued failure to answer has consequences for my perception of Master Radish's alignment. This is pressure. Your intervention here creates counterpressure on me, and therefore defends Master Radishes to a certain degree. Is this defense an intended effect, and if so, why did you do it?
I'm not too concerned with putting counter pressure in a case like this. And I didn't see the conversation going much further. I had an opinion I wanted to out out there.
If anything, I actually *like* MRs reluctance to give you everything you're asking for. It shows he isn't too concerned over the pressure.
Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
... I'm pretty sure it's scum who are supposed to have plinko-board reads?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:43 pmFair I guess but it’s also see Drago’s point. Iaafr threw out a rainbow with maybe half a dozen controversial reads. I think it’s town because of this shift on Mac and 112, plinko theory suggests that scum doesn’t make such significant shifts like that without a clearer game planEvenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pmI super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 amThis is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Oh fuck off.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:46 pmI see, so you're mafia and iaafr is town? Cool.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:39 pmI super question how badly this list is off. Feels like they're not playing the same game as me. That means they're probably not the same alignment as me. QED.Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:52 amThis is bad as hell. How can you use the fact that you disagree with the read list against iaafr? Ppl have different perspectives and won't always share your own. I despise the shade that you're throwing at iaafr here.
Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Read the last page and you'll find out.
Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
... :wolfy:Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:47 pmOk, so you think an evil character can be town then and vice versa?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:45 pmHere’s how I see itDragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:40 pmI'm not talking about role abilities, I'm talking about alignments.juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:11 pmHere's what JJJ said in the OP:Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:08 pmI've been assuming that whatever character you have would dictate your alignment, like if your character is a good guy, they'd be town right?juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:05 pmSo Drago, I guess where I'm left with this is I don't see any game related point in role-playing your character whether you are town, or scum, or 3P since the character doesn't tell us anything about the person's abilities or their role. JJJ suggested role-playing your character in the OP as just something fun to do.
For example, let's say 112 is role playing the character "loneliness" and she later claims she is "loneliness". What does that tell us exactly? Not her alignment, nor her abilities since there is no correlation. So it tells us nothing, the way I see it.
But no one else seems confused by this, just me, so I don't want to belabor the point. I'll think further on it as we go forward.
"Characters are randomized and have no connection to role abilities. You can even role play if you like."
So I read that as you can't tell from the character what the role abilities are.
A game was designed with blank power roles associated with alignment
Then 29 characters were completely randomly matched to roles
Re: I am the Elephant.
30 minutes into Inception, Mal stabs Ariadne, and it happens quite suddenly. Thankfully, the number of morons in this game seems low.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:34 pmIn drakengard I had to worry about getting ITA'd by some moron.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:28 pmYou certainly look happier here than in Drakengard.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:59 am~~Not A Champs Game~~Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 am@Evenstar, you seem to have been enjoying yourself here. Why is that?Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar
so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.
that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.
should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P
Also any game with 30 players in it is de facto a mash, I have licence to fuck around
(and my normal tactic of claiming something ridiculous D1 is of limited applicability here)
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
[mention]iaafr[/mention], I just re-read your ISO and one thing that stood out to me is your total turnaround on 112, first she was absolutely town and then she went all the way to scum. Could you talk about that turnaround? What happened? I didn't see it explained in your ISO but maybe I missed it.
And then you were town tunneling nutella but she ended up as scum on your list. Could you talk about what happened there?
I feel like I'm reading your list upside down except your name appears at the top and I assume you don't suspect yourself.
And then you were town tunneling nutella but she ended up as scum on your list. Could you talk about what happened there?
I feel like I'm reading your list upside down except your name appears at the top and I assume you don't suspect yourself.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:54 pm @iaafr, I just re-read your ISO and one thing that stood out to me is your total turnaround on 112, first she was absolutely town and then she went all the way to scum. Could you talk about that turnaround? What happened? I didn't see it explained in your ISO but maybe I missed it.
And then you were town tunneling nutella but she ended up as scum on your list. Could you talk about what happened there?
I feel like I'm reading your list upside down except your name appears at the top and I assume you don't suspect yourself.
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] do you have a question?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Hey just got back from last night went way longer and chaotic then i thought it would be thankfully we have this extra day gonna be taking a quick nap before i read up have up to page 3 from last night that's when i left.
sorry again will be more active from here on out obviously and if anyone has anything they wanted to ask me from this missed time ask and i'll answer with the best of my ability
sorry again will be more active from here on out obviously and if anyone has anything they wanted to ask me from this missed time ask and i'll answer with the best of my ability
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
I did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pmRead the last page and you'll find out.
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Jay and I are both townies irl.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:27 amOh it totally makes sense, town has similar perspective to spec chat as "default"/lack of info. Jack I think has talked about this? Maybe Jay lolMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:15 amExcuse me for my intervention but since then the spec chat attitude is giving meta for a player?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:11 am
If you want a serious response, (a) screw you, and (b) iiafr is acting exactly as he did in spec chat, which makes me think it's his default setting.
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Re: I am the Elephant.
Pretty sure there aren't any roles that can do that in this game tho.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:51 pm30 minutes into Inception, Mal stabs Ariadne, and it happens quite suddenly. Thankfully, the number of morons in this game seems low.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:34 pmIn drakengard I had to worry about getting ITA'd by some moron.Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:28 pmYou certainly look happier here than in Drakengard.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:59 am~~Not A Champs Game~~Elephant wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:56 am@Evenstar, you seem to have been enjoying yourself here. Why is that?Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar
so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.
that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.
should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P
Also any game with 30 players in it is de facto a mash, I have licence to fuck around
(and my normal tactic of claiming something ridiculous D1 is of limited applicability here)
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Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Then it'd mean no safe claims for scum, meaning 112 isn't roleplaying a safe claim.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:00 pmI did. Why'd your read evaporate as soon as you got confirmation that flavor isn't alignment-indicative?Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:44 pmRead the last page and you'll find out.
Re: Inception [Hypnagogic Phase]
Ah, frell.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:19 pm This game is a semi-open setup. The roles listed below appear in the game in some capacity. The list is not comprehensive. Players may or may not necessarily have additional abilities beyond those listed.