MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
I like this discourse because nutella was the most firmly null player for me (of everyone posting consistently). I did a cursory ISO and I still honestly don't know. I can't find anything that's inherently wolfy to even comment on.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:16 am
It was Fallout that you did it. You were an indy. I also looked at Arrowverse where he was scum and you were town and you didn't give him any town reads at least for the first couple days. Makes me feel good about you... maybe even Creature a bit since your radar on him is demonstrably good.
Why is Mac going out of his way to do research on Jack that makes him look better? Super OOC from what I saw in WC1 and finals. This Mac feels soft and fuzzy with a side of poop jokes. Finals mac was hard and flinty with a side of dick jokes. Very different flavours and oh god why did I give myself that mental image.
This is actually somewhat spicy. I definitely don't have the strongest townread of Mac so far, so I'll remember to be wary and on the lookout for minor discrepancies in his tone. When we're both town I tend to mindmeld with him a lot and it can almost look like one of us pocketing the other but it's a bad sign if that doesn't happen naturally or if he tries to force it.
literally the first four nutella quotes i thought were worth tossing in
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:16 am
It was Fallout that you did it. You were an indy. I also looked at Arrowverse where he was scum and you were town and you didn't give him any town reads at least for the first couple days. Makes me feel good about you... maybe even Creature a bit since your radar on him is demonstrably good.
Why is Mac going out of his way to do research on Jack that makes him look better? Super OOC from what I saw in WC1 and finals. This Mac feels soft and fuzzy with a side of poop jokes. Finals mac was hard and flinty with a side of dick jokes. Very different flavours and oh god why did I give myself that mental image.
This is actually somewhat spicy. I definitely don't have the strongest townread of Mac so far, so I'll remember to be wary and on the lookout for minor discrepancies in his tone. When we're both town I tend to mindmeld with him a lot and it can almost look like one of us pocketing the other but it's a bad sign if that doesn't happen naturally or if he tries to force it.
literally the first four nutella quotes i thought were worth tossing in
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
I'm not sure why you are quoting me here?
Case i say the previous message this set about it as i made my post as i enter in here and didn't wanna mess around with trying to remove your part so figured it was easier and more convenient then messing a bunch of stuff up
Benson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:39 pm
I like this discourse because nutella was the most firmly null player for me (of everyone posting consistently). I did a cursory ISO and I still honestly don't know. I can't find anything that's inherently wolfy to even comment on.
Yes I agree, and for me the absence of ping is usually a good sign for nut. I find her wolf game a little bit ... I don't wanna degrade it because she gets results but for me it's usually pretty apparent. She just lays it on a bit too thick with the "u guise we gotta get the badders" type shit.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:16 am
It was Fallout that you did it. You were an indy. I also looked at Arrowverse where he was scum and you were town and you didn't give him any town reads at least for the first couple days. Makes me feel good about you... maybe even Creature a bit since your radar on him is demonstrably good.
Why is Mac going out of his way to do research on Jack that makes him look better? Super OOC from what I saw in WC1 and finals. This Mac feels soft and fuzzy with a side of poop jokes. Finals mac was hard and flinty with a side of dick jokes. Very different flavours and oh god why did I give myself that mental image.
This is actually somewhat spicy. I definitely don't have the strongest townread of Mac so far, so I'll remember to be wary and on the lookout for minor discrepancies in his tone. When we're both town I tend to mindmeld with him a lot and it can almost look like one of us pocketing the other but it's a bad sign if that doesn't happen naturally or if he tries to force it.
literally the first four nutella quotes i thought were worth tossing in
I hope you get my point
nutella never scum
I don't see that at all.
This is what I mean about Eva. She's just making reads that make no sense. It's exactly what she did in wc1.
Epignosis, the posts that you point out as over-the-top confident on you are what I think of as TMI. also the way nutella treats mac.
i don't trust mac's standard for townreading nutella. "If we're agreeing, we're teammates" if they read the game similarly, they're town? why would nutella not want to pocket mac as scum?
how many times has mac rolled town against nutella scum? is there a large enough sample size to suggest that he never incorrectly townreads her based on agreement?
also just saw eva's quotewall and lol i find those posts scummy
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
I'm not sure why you are quoting me here?
Case i say the previous message this set about it as i made my post as i enter in here and didn't wanna mess around with trying to remove your part so figured it was easier and more convenient then messing a bunch of stuff up
Are you using voice to text or something because I don't know what you just said man.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 pm
Epignosis, the posts that you point out as over-the-top confident on you are what I think of as TMI. also the way nutella treats mac.
i don't trust mac's standard for townreading nutella. "If we're agreeing, we're teammates" if they read the game similarly, they're town? why would nutella not want to pocket mac as scum?
how many times has mac rolled town against nutella scum? is there a large enough sample size to suggest that he never incorrectly townreads her based on agreement?
also just saw eva's quotewall and lol i find those posts scummy
I never said I couldn't be wrong? I'm just sharing my insights. There's always room to be wrong.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
this is like
incredibly simlar
to exactly how evenstar TMI'd hyena as town D1 of that game
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
The whimsical stuff got him almost unilaterally townread actually. It was the insane gambit that got him in trouble.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 pm
Epignosis, the posts that you point out as over-the-top confident on you are what I think of as TMI. also the way nutella treats mac.
i don't trust mac's standard for townreading nutella. "If we're agreeing, we're teammates" if they read the game similarly, they're town? why would nutella not want to pocket mac as scum?
how many times has mac rolled town against nutella scum? is there a large enough sample size to suggest that he never incorrectly townreads her based on agreement?
also just saw eva's quotewall and lol i find those posts scummy
I never said I couldn't be wrong? I'm just sharing my insights. There's always room to be wrong.
nothing personal, i'm just making it clear why i don't think i can trust your townread.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
I'm not sure why you are quoting me here?
Case i say the previous message this set about it as i made my post as i enter in here and didn't wanna mess around with trying to remove your part so figured it was easier and more convenient then messing a bunch of stuff up
Are you using voice to text or something because I don't know what you just said man.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:16 am
It was Fallout that you did it. You were an indy. I also looked at Arrowverse where he was scum and you were town and you didn't give him any town reads at least for the first couple days. Makes me feel good about you... maybe even Creature a bit since your radar on him is demonstrably good.
Why is Mac going out of his way to do research on Jack that makes him look better? Super OOC from what I saw in WC1 and finals. This Mac feels soft and fuzzy with a side of poop jokes. Finals mac was hard and flinty with a side of dick jokes. Very different flavours and oh god why did I give myself that mental image.
This is actually somewhat spicy. I definitely don't have the strongest townread of Mac so far, so I'll remember to be wary and on the lookout for minor discrepancies in his tone. When we're both town I tend to mindmeld with him a lot and it can almost look like one of us pocketing the other but it's a bad sign if that doesn't happen naturally or if he tries to force it.
literally the first four nutella quotes i thought were worth tossing in
I hope you get my point
nutella never scum
I don't see that at all.
She's active, she's engaged, she's bringing the fight, she's got that slight paranoid edge. She's just really clear town to me.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:55 pm
So story time.
Once upon a time, I was The Syndicate Mafia Universe representative.
I called out a member of the mafia for using quite the same language Hyena has been using. The name was EngagedEnglish or EnglishEngine or something like that. I nailed him simply because of his words.
I backed off because he was a stranger to me, and I doubted myself. I was killed and the mafia won.
I'm not doing that again. Hyena is guilty. I see the same telltale linguistic tics.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:30 pm
I do think nutella is town though. Maybe she is and Evenstar is just a genius?
its hard to think of evenstar as a genius while being tunneled incorrectly by her
also why do you think nutella is town
I haven't really seen any reason to scum read her. She has been here a lot, sharing her thoughts... She and I have seen a few things the same way. I feel like I have a pretty good Nutella radar. Prone to tinfoil and tunnelling but generally quite good.
Something to remember is by a someone pushing you doesn't mean they are always a wolf they could just have a what they feel is a case or train of thought towards you with it.
If you think someone is making a case against you as town when they are town you should keep that read of them and push thought why what you said is A towny and B why they are/could be a town for pushing said case
I'm not sure why you are quoting me here?
Case i say the previous message this set about it as i made my post as i enter in here and didn't wanna mess around with trying to remove your part so figured it was easier and more convenient then messing a bunch of stuff up
Are you using voice to text or something because I don't know what you just said man.
I was originally responding the bolded part also no not voice to text just tired still gotta sleep just wanted to check in first
Someone asked for Benson reads, so I was looking at his ISO. Seems not too Mafiaish so far, and then his one post led me to follow up on an area that (sorry) I didn't read the first time. I skipped the last part of Hypnagogic Phase in order to start reading Day 1.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 pm
Benson isn't someone I'd vote for Day 1, Evenstar. I don't have much of a take either way, but for Day 1? It's a no from me dawg.
Do you have like, a list of people that you aren't lynching day 1 that we can use a reference point here?
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:47 pm
Someone asked for Benson reads, so I was looking at his ISO. Seems not too Mafiaish so far, and then his one post led me to follow up on an area that (sorry) I didn't read the first time. I skipped the last part of Hypnagogic Phase in order to start reading Day 1.
I know the feel when you're baked and you think you just discovered the secret of the universe in the colour of your curtains man. So I'll let that one slide through to the keeper.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
this is like
incredibly simlar
to exactly how evenstar TMI'd hyena as town D1 of that game
If Nute ever flips wolf I'm calling Hyena my certified top town
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:01 pm
she is incapable of producing independent thoughts
an alarmingly high proportion of her takes are about clearly extant dichotomies/trichotomies and a lot of it feels fencesitty or "im currently leaning this way" with no apparent drive to get to a conclusion on her own
she feels disconnected and disengaged in a scummy way
the thing she seems to feel strongly about are probably TMI
If I'm disconnected it's because I've been perpetually 4 pages behind. And yeah my reads change a lot just like yours. I have some core townreads and then lots of people I'm going back and forth on. You can call it fencesitting, whatever. I'm starting to sort things out and hopefully will feel more conviction in some stances as the day goes on.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:49 pm
I know the feel when you're baked and you think you just discovered the secret of the universe in the colour of your curtains man. So I'll let that one slide through to the keeper.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:44 pm
Epignosis, the posts that you point out as over-the-top confident on you are what I think of as TMI. also the way nutella treats mac.
i don't trust mac's standard for townreading nutella. "If we're agreeing, we're teammates" if they read the game similarly, they're town? why would nutella not want to pocket mac as scum?
how many times has mac rolled town against nutella scum? is there a large enough sample size to suggest that he never incorrectly townreads her based on agreement?
also just saw eva's quotewall and lol i find those posts scummy
If anyone is going to rightly declare my alignment Day 1, it's nutella. I don't know how she does it. She isn't always right, of course, but she's got the best track record. I wouldn't call it "TMI." It could be, but I myself would not jump to that conclusion.
Besides, she's had other people pegged as civilians.
MacDougall is someone I admire. I think he and I are quite a bit alike in the sense that we're both very hard to lynch but also easy to fool. I'm not seeing anything at present that would make me want to lynch MacDougall or make me think nutella is trying to trick MacDougall.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 pm
Benson isn't someone I'd vote for Day 1, Evenstar. I don't have much of a take either way, but for Day 1? It's a no from me dawg.
Do you have like, a list of people that you aren't lynching day 1 that we can use a reference point here?
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
Hyena's doing some weird shit. It's aggressive, it looks scummy as fuck, it's probably town. Hyena gonna Hyena.
Actually i will argue this slightly Hyena from the stuff I've seen so far could still be Scum he pulled similar stuff in the G8 game in which i was a part of and called him out for even if i wasn't confident to push it then. But i would not give him a town read as of yet he is still null from what i've been reading so far.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:55 pm
So story time.
Once upon a time, I was The Syndicate Mafia Universe representative.
I called out a member of the mafia for using quite the same language Hyena has been using. The name was EngagedEnglish or EnglishEngine or something like that. I nailed him simply because of his words.
I backed off because he was a stranger to me, and I doubted myself. I was killed and the mafia won.
I'm not doing that again. Hyena is guilty. I see the same telltale linguistic tics.
[mention]Epignosis[/mention] Yes we are probably easy to fool because we're both dads of smart children as well as keepers of youth (you a teacher, me a manager) so we are perpetually being misled by everyone around us constantly and have lost sight of what objective truth looks like.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:48 pm
I am presently married to my Hyena vote. nutella, explain why that and I should get a divorce.
He's just town. He's whimsical and does stuff that looks weird but it's mostly to get reactions. Same thing got him in trouble in wc1. I don't really get what your reasons even are but I think they are mostly just a lack of trying to understand his side.
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 pm
Benson isn't someone I'd vote for Day 1, Evenstar. I don't have much of a take either way, but for Day 1? It's a no from me dawg.
Do you have like, a list of people that you aren't lynching day 1 that we can use a reference point here?
Benson
iaafr
nutella
you
Evenstar
JaggedJimmyJay
Okay ... not what I was expecting. I thought maybe you'd include Juliets in here at least given you have her as a civilian?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:55 pm
Epignosis Yes we are probably easy to fool because we're both dads of smart children as well as keepers of youth (you a teacher, me a manager) so we are perpetually being misled by everyone around us constantly and have lost sight of what objective truth looks like.
Or it's that I'm too busy drinking and having sex to care about objective truth.
iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:58 pm
long con agreeing with me over and over keeps pinging me too lmfao
gn long con
Have you ever had a conversation with someone while they're high?
"Yeah so like, you know when you stick your finger in your belly button and you can feel it in your dick. I did that once for long enough to experience an actual orgasm!"
"No way! Really?" *proceeds to finger their bellybutton for 2 hours*
Ok, thanks man.