Inception [END]

Who threatens the subconscious mind?

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Jackofhearts2005
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Yeah it's the same list he was open about that lol.
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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:39 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why the fuck is your vote still on me. I don't believe you have any reads of your own since you sheeped that for no reason and don't seem to have taken any stances since. Do you actually suspect me or do you just have zero original thpughts
I think you’re town but a bet is a bet
Oof.

So you’re scum or not playing to your wincon.

Cool cool.
Counterpoint: getting people to sheep me is good for my wincon
So you want to sacrifice a townie who has frankly contributed a lot more content than you for the sake of having cred. If that is good for your wincon then your wincon must not be a town one.
You have a very narrow view of how the game works but ok, go off
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:09 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:07 pm @nutella I'm not convinced by what you said about Michelle, and there was also this post that I didn't like from her that I saw:
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:43 am
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Just skimmed again through million of posts and forgot half of the content.
I will just relax as I rly have a bad day today and I wasted my energy into carrying home the Cats/Dogs game with Novas and Speedchuck Image

Here some crappy GTH reads to satisfy your hunger:

Nutella - good
Michelle - good
Sprityo - good
the guy with the rabbit avatar - good
don't mention me -_-

give me details of Nutella good and what alignament means good for you please. Thanks
why nutella? why not interested in why I read you good? Image
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I don't need to be pocketed thanks for asking.

Don't avoid the question Rej, talk to me about Nutella.
I don't see how what she's doing here differs from what I'm doing right now.
That's one of the posts that most made me think she's town. I think being afraid she's getting pocketed is a legit town tell.
Alright.
I'll give her another day.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:13 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:35 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:27 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:24 pm Michelle you wanted to talk if you are around So am i
hi.
Once, long ago, you said you catched up and dissapeard. Tell me what have from catching up back then.
I have slight reads for some player poated earlier but this I them I am more confident on my town reads then skim reads not gonna lie but pretty confident on the town ones also why i would prefore not lynching Eve today feeling leaving her alove another day will help sort her out more also why it's juat slight atm.

Still not 100% from that point forward I the 30's of pages woth alittle but seen with the grouping idea feel bad but have more time as this game goes to give it.

Haven't read you as either but you so far don't seem in your work meta having played against and with before so would prefore you to live for now

Towny
-Mac (you)
-Nanook
-Sprityo (i 100% misspelled this am sorry)

-Town Lean
-Everstar

Skumy leaning
-nutella

skumy
-hyena
Wait. Is this the exact list you posted like 30 pages ago?
Loooool I want to believe.
I lifted in the next post say it is since I havn't read most of then to now I havn't changed them if your in my ISO you should see that
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:13 pm Cause tbh I’d vote them over you even with the bet
Drago maybe. Texas nah.
Cool, let’s do that then!

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With a little cursing, there’s nothing that can’t be accomplished.

Wholesome af tbh
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i could kill drago here i think
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:39 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why the fuck is your vote still on me. I don't believe you have any reads of your own since you sheeped that for no reason and don't seem to have taken any stances since. Do you actually suspect me or do you just have zero original thpughts
I think you’re town but a bet is a bet
Oof.

So you’re scum or not playing to your wincon.

Cool cool.
Counterpoint: getting people to sheep me is good for my wincon
Counter counterpoint: If I respond to this, Nutella will think I’m buddying you and also, this is pretty bullshit so maybe I’ll vote you in a minute.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Buddying her* 🙄
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Where tf has Eva been tbh??? She disappeared off the face of the Earth?
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Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:15 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:09 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:07 pm @nutella I'm not convinced by what you said about Michelle, and there was also this post that I didn't like from her that I saw:
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:43 am
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Just skimmed again through million of posts and forgot half of the content.
I will just relax as I rly have a bad day today and I wasted my energy into carrying home the Cats/Dogs game with Novas and Speedchuck Image

Here some crappy GTH reads to satisfy your hunger:

Nutella - good
Michelle - good
Sprityo - good
the guy with the rabbit avatar - good
don't mention me -_-

give me details of Nutella good and what alignament means good for you please. Thanks
why nutella? why not interested in why I read you good? Image
good means civillian Image
I don't need to be pocketed thanks for asking.

Don't avoid the question Rej, talk to me about Nutella.
I don't see how what she's doing here differs from what I'm doing right now.
That's one of the posts that most made me think she's town. I think being afraid she's getting pocketed is a legit town tell.
Alright.
I'll give her another day.
LET'S GIVE MICHELLE ANOTHER DAY HERE
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:15 pm [VOTE:
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aubergine
Benson gets seeds, comes back and votes TL.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:39 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why the fuck is your vote still on me. I don't believe you have any reads of your own since you sheeped that for no reason and don't seem to have taken any stances since. Do you actually suspect me or do you just have zero original thpughts
I think you’re town but a bet is a bet
Oof.

So you’re scum or not playing to your wincon.

Cool cool.
Counterpoint: getting people to sheep me is good for my wincon
Counter counterpoint: If I respond to this, Nutella will think I’m buddying you and also, this is pretty bullshit so maybe I’ll vote you in a minute.
Go for it chief, whatever makes you happy
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Is no one worryied about the 5 man wagon that formed on me I a extremely short amount of time?

On the person that a few of them know is commonly mislynched.

Either way gotta drive home from lunch can someone ping me how long till EoD
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I’m not even joking about being garbage at reading Michelle and wanting pointers.
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vanity. wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:17 pm i could kill drago here i think
That’s the spirit
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Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:19 pm Is no one worryied about the 5 man wagon that formed on me I a extremely short amount of time?

On the person that a few of them know is commonly mislynched.

Either way gotta drive home from lunch can someone ping me how long till EoD
Uh. I am, yeah.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:18 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:15 pm [VOTE:
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aubergine
Benson gets seeds, comes back and votes TL.

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It’s a little past midnight and I’ve got a second to see what’s going on, but it looks to be that there’s suddenly 5 more pages to read so I’ll opt out of that to instead continue sleeping

Goodnight all :offtobed:
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:19 pm Is no one worryied about the 5 man wagon that formed on me I a extremely short amount of time?

On the person that a few of them know is commonly mislynched.

Either way gotta drive home from lunch can someone ping me how long till EoD
Oh totes but the whole exact same read list from 30 pages again shows either a heavy disconnect or somewhat unprepared scum, with it generally being a bad look.

So either it catches scum or we suddenly have a lot of new data to work with imo. Judging off those that were genuine and those that were opportunistic.
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There’s this whole deal with 112 going on it looks like but I haven’t paid enough attention to it to make an opinion, my vote is staying on evenstar
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Ten pages. Again. :|
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:19 pm I’m not even joking about being garbage at reading Michelle and wanting pointers.
Same. I legitimately can't read here and any help on that front is super appreciated.
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TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
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It's been a while since I've seen something so wolfy as someone copy and pasting a 6 player read-list and reusing that a day later.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:31 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:24 am
112 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:17 am
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Michelle wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:55 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:10 pm

I am helping explain to Dom that Elephant is an elephant so that he becomes aware that elephant is an elephant because that’s information that is hard to gather.
Good to know I almost thought that Elephant is a fairy.
Really?? Except the wifom, do you have any slight idea about his alignament?
strange interaction imo
I asked his oppinion not yours but since you felt the need to come inside, what do you think about Elephant, TSP and me?
I don't feel particularly good about any of you- and feel probably worst about Tony right now.

But I think the best vote is [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
why is him the best vote? Mind elaborate?
I read a couple of his posts this morning (actually 10:30pm here but i just woke up), and they seemed insincere. He was conscious of being lazy with one post but downplayed the laziness in a way that made me feel he was too conscious of how he's coming across.
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[mention]sprityo[/mention] Eva is never happening today
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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

Do you want to have some fun? >:3
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Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:19 pm I’m not even joking about being garbage at reading Michelle and wanting pointers.
Same. I legitimately can't read here and any help on that front is super appreciated.
from what i understand michelle comes across way more timid and reserved as a wolf

i get glimpses of confidence in her iso but overall it's very underwhelming imo
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The TL wagon is like pet rock level of out of the blue fad. I thought the players on it had actual reads but I guess not.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:26 am
anyway this was around the same time as my interaction with him about jack, read through that for context, then he comes out with this:
Master Radishes wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:13 pm Let's all vote jack then, since I'm clearly wrong about it.
which is the scummiest post in the game yet. cue my vote.

thoughts?
I see that post as a smug turnaround, not unlike something I would post given the context.
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Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:23 pm It's been a while since I've seen something so wolfy as someone copy and pasting a 6 player read-list and reusing that a day later.
I think it may be twtbaw and/or he just hadn't read anything so just restated what his existing reads had been. Idk, don't know the guy
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Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:27 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

Do you want to have some fun? >:3
I'm listening Dr. Facilier.
Let nutella unvote TL. That'll bring TL down to 4 votes. 112 already has 4 votes. Tony has 3 votes, but if I place a vote, he'll also be tied with them.

I say let's do it for SCIENCE.
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iaafr wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:24 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
who are your big fish candidates
Pawn, LLD, maybe juliets or elephant
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Nanook is a dirty dirty bet welcher.
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Yeah let's not forget the tony wagon
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yeah im not feeling like TL is a hit

i feel like theres wolvse in the people beign defended but i feel like a decent amount of players defending wolves are villagers

including me with 112 somewhat

idk
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Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:27 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

Do you want to have some fun? >:3
I'm listening Dr. Facilier.
Let nutella unvote TL. That'll bring TL down to 4 votes. 112 already has 4 votes. Tony has 3 votes, but if I place a vote, he'll also be tied with them.

I say let's do it for SCIENCE.
Oh wait, she already unvoted, lol.

LET'S DO IT!!!

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine
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From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
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Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:27 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

Do you want to have some fun? >:3
I'm listening Dr. Facilier.
Let nutella unvote TL. That'll bring TL down to 4 votes. 112 already has 4 votes. Tony has 3 votes, but if I place a vote, he'll also be tied with them.

I say let's do it for SCIENCE.
So group some people together as ties to see how voters react and use for more data?

I can get down with that. Let's see how this pans out.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm Nanook is a dirty dirty bet welcher.
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nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:23 pm It's been a while since I've seen something so wolfy as someone copy and pasting a 6 player read-list and reusing that a day later.
I think it may be twtbaw and/or he just hadn't read anything so just restated what his existing reads had been. Idk, don't know the guy
THIRD TIME I HAVN"T READ THE IN BETWEEN ARGGGGG
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Been awhile since I’ve had a D1 where I would say kill like half the players if given the option.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
who's the obvious scum?
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Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:30 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:27 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:25 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:22 pm TL and to some extent Drago feel like the too-easy options for D1. Though Drago has also kinda disappeared. See if some pressure brings him in.[VOTE: drago] aubergine

Prob not staying on either of these guys. I don't want to end in a lame small brained mislynch. I wanna catch the big fishes
Hmm.

Do you want to have some fun? >:3
I'm listening Dr. Facilier.
Let nutella unvote TL. That'll bring TL down to 4 votes. 112 already has 4 votes. Tony has 3 votes, but if I place a vote, he'll also be tied with them.

I say let's do it for SCIENCE.
So group some people together as ties to see how voters react and use for more data?

I can get down with that. Let's see how this pans out.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 1]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:29 pm From the 5 posts of TL thay I’ve read he seemed townie.

I suspect this sort of thing happens to him a lot when he plays outside his home community but who am I to stop you from ignoring the obvious scum in order to kill sweet TL instead.
It's 100% cause home community is Speaking and this is typing blaming that but still trying am here now
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