Inception [Inception Phase 4]

[Jackofhearts2005]

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[Pawn Lelouch]

Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”

Ultimately comes down to the fact that there has been nothing really clearing them while the TR people have done things to do that from my perspective.

I don't like going after low posters since it's lazy but at this point there isn't that much left to do. The fact is, reads by process of elimination are a real thing and they're valid in this situation.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo


Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD

[Evenstar]

We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.

... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.

Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.

When I played with the role back on MSPAFA it was always NK only. But then again last day's lynch didn't flip, so... Yeah, I guess you could have a point. Still feels much more likely a mason.

YOU PLAYED ON MSPAFA?! Did you ever play at Chocolate Pi Forums where they moved the mafia threads to?

Yes, I did! I was Lagren! I didn't move to Chocolate Pi though, alas.

[Dom]

i still think pushes on me are lazy and if you really try to get in my head my thoughts are clearly real

the fact that i like to post noise doesnt change that ive actually been trying really hard this game idk

irritation with the game kinda spiraled out of control last phase but not in a scum indicative way?

i think doms and colins pushes on me are the worst and they are also the least transparent players with their reads on the rest of the game

Did Donald Trump write this post?

could be one of those gamestates where everybody suspsecting me is town and the scum are cleaner than me but

idk

just wish @dom would do more than 95% tunnel me in a phase and mention one off reads on radishes and macdougall

....all of your posts are about me bro

AND you literally take up pages of the thread with singleton posts, seven in a row.
You are basically asking me to not engage with the loudest part of the game.

i still think pushes on me are lazy and if you really try to get in my head my thoughts are clearly real

the fact that i like to post noise doesnt change that ive actually been trying really hard this game idk

irritation with the game kinda spiraled out of control last phase but not in a scum indicative way?

i think doms and colins pushes on me are the worst and they are also the least transparent players with their reads on the rest of the game

Here was my summary of you:

There are a few positives up in here for iaafr. Despite the strong claim that Dragomir was a civilian, iaafr peeled himself away from that, commenting on Dragomir’s exchange with Evenstar. I’d like to think iaafr keeping the light on Dragomir was instrumental in getting him lynched. I also don’t mind that iaafr didn’t let the thread stagnate as the deadline loomed (not that it needed his help to avoid stagnation, but it’s nice to see).

However, there are certainly some things he’s going to have to answer for. The lynch poll is the primary means by which civilians win. No one had any justifiable reason to abstain from the vote but boo. That stinks. I also invite others to look at iaafr’s apparent change in attitude regarding Dragomir, going from civilian to bad and ultimately not voting him at a critical juncture (two minutes until the end of the poll).

That latter issue is a big one for me. Civilians who don't vote are useless civilians. They fail to lynch mafia and fail to give other civilians a means of understanding them. That's a double whammy. That's why, in this particular scenario, you make my list.

I have said this countless times as well. I don't know why it's "unspecific" or "vague" or "mean" to say this.

I'm an incredibly sensitive person, just ask Mac.
But this level of *me me me* is unreal.

^ how can anybody read the above posts and not see im clearly town spewing myself town because this isnt how id go about playing scum this game at all

"I won't whine anymore"
*immediately makes his whining evidence of his civviness*
"WHY ARE YOU ENGAGING WITH ME WHINING IT ISN'T GAME RELEVANT AND IT MAKES ME WHINE EVEN MORE

don't gaslight me.

i am forced into wanting to vote the least transparent players who want to kill me

{jack, dom, colin}

everybody else can live

sprityo wanted to kill me out of spite so he can live

If I was bad you'd be dead already.

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

And if this is true at all...

...why in God's name didn't you vote Dragomir to add insurance so that 112 didn't die?

Bull

Spoiler: show

shit.

That's why.

!!!!

pawn lelouch

is epignosis being fair to me right now?

How old are you?
Seriously... just how old are you?

[Master Radishes]

Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”

I 100% agree with you. I don't like that we're consolidating around the quieter players. (Before you go claiming I've done that too, I gave my reason for suspecting Nova based on his D1 vote, and I disagreed with Colin and Dom as options yesterday and early today; at the moment they're in my PoE but I'm not scumreading them per se. The only one I found scummy in his own right was Sprityo.)

So let's change that then, Jack. I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

[Evenstar]

Yeah this push on Rabbit from dom is not endearing them to me. Particularly their apparent belief that not voting is a smoking gun.

[Pawn Lelouch]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

[Dom]

i feel like im getting gaslighted by these accusations and i feel like youre interrogating me in an extremely abrasive guilty-until-proven-innocent way

which ok is a philosophy but can you stop?

i dont want to get myself out of your suspect pool

lowkey if you think epi is being abraisive here... then you'd literally die if you played with him a few years ago.

the funniest thing is i did do work n1 and read a lot of isos

i just didnt prep posts like you did

Lesson learned.

Why are you afraid of some of my questions?

see the emotional intelligence book might help you realize im not afraid im annoyed and i have no patience to defend myself and i already told you i dont care if you scumread me

This is perhaps the saddest, smallest post I have ever seen from someone who is upset people are trying to "teach" them how to play.

Fuck off, dude

HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS NOT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A DAY THREE LIKE ID PLAY ANY NORMAL DAY THREE WHICH IS QUOTE OPSTS FROM A DAY ONE AND DAY TWO THAT HAVE CONTINUITY

How do you not realize that we are literally all in the same boat and nothing is being done to you personally?

[Master Radishes]

@ColinIsCool (Rej) w
@Dom w
@Epignosis w
@Evenstar w
@iaafr v
@Jackofhearts2005 w
@Master Radishes v
@Pawn Lelouch v
@sprityo w

theres 3 town and 5 mafia and we gotta vig shot differnet ones with our powersecretvotes pew pew pew pew epw ewp

My three are Pawn, Radishes, Iaafr

Jack, your reads are so different from everyone's. That in itself is fine, but I also feel they're not progressing - isn't this the same three you had yesterday?

(a) Why Pawn?
(b) Why me?
(c) Why Rabbit?

If you've said I genuinely don't remember.

I’ve said like a dozen times.

A) Pawn because his reads are too easy. Suspect the quiet players. Suspect who Iaafr and Radishes are pushing. I don’t think he’s likely scum with you and Iaafr since he feels like a wolf satisfied to sheep wrong reads, not a wolf trying to power through.

B) Because I strongly townread Epi for his interactives yesterday and you came in and pooped all over them. Then LLD and Pawn basically agreed (which is not a good look for them but again, makes ya’ll not looked teamed, at least not all 3 of you). You also put forth a weasel worded attack on Eva. Don’t remember the details, just that you accused her of “chaos posting” when she was saying things I found reasonable.

C) His scumreads don’t make any sense from a town perspective. He’s spending so much time complaining about mechanics and spreading conspiracies that it feels wolfy. I have no idea why I appear to be the lone voice of reason here.

Apologies for making you repeat yourself, although I don't think it hurts to have reads re-stated when we keep losing threads.

Pawn - I get it. It's mostly tinfoil, but I get it.
Me - sounds like you just disagree with me more than actually find me scummy.
Iaafr - I just don't find it wolfy coming from him. He bounces around on his reads way too frantically for it be wolfy.

[Evenstar]

i feel like im getting gaslighted by these accusations and i feel like youre interrogating me in an extremely abrasive guilty-until-proven-innocent way

which ok is a philosophy but can you stop?

i dont want to get myself out of your suspect pool

lowkey if you think epi is being abraisive here... then you'd literally die if you played with him a few years ago.

the funniest thing is i did do work n1 and read a lot of isos

i just didnt prep posts like you did

Lesson learned.

Why are you afraid of some of my questions?

see the emotional intelligence book might help you realize im not afraid im annoyed and i have no patience to defend myself and i already told you i dont care if you scumread me

This is perhaps the saddest, smallest post I have ever seen from someone who is upset people are trying to "teach" them how to play.

Fuck off, dude

HOW DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS NOT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A DAY THREE LIKE ID PLAY ANY NORMAL DAY THREE WHICH IS QUOTE OPSTS FROM A DAY ONE AND DAY TWO THAT HAVE CONTINUITY

How do you not realize that we are literally all in the same boat and nothing is being done to you personally?

People who are dicks are >rand scum.

I went against this principle with dragomir, and look where it got me.

Rabbit's just town. Not so sure about you or epi though.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pretty sure it was in fact Radishes who at least gave reasons for his suspicions D2.

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

Give me everything you got on Dom and Colin. Like as if your life depended on reading them correctly.

[Dom]

i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now

Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?

Seriously tho. I’m the troll host around these parts.

back in the day... like 2009 ish... i was too...
i was also 15 LOL

AND YOU KEEP ASKING ME QUESTIONS AS IF I SHOULD CARE

I DONT CARE

IVE SAID I DONT CARE

I STILL DONT CARE

BUT YOU KEEP NEEDLING ME

Nope, you clearly do not care whatsoever. It is amazing how little you care.

I'm crying laughing at this.

Yeah, I need more adult conversation in the thread. Yikes.

whattup? how's the school year?

"GASLIGHITNG ME INTO SAYING ITS NOT BELIEVABLE"

I don't even know what this means. I'm 36.

This isn't a function of age.
It's a function of complete bullshit being spewed.
Gaslighting is a real thing. But you're not doing it.

Is iaafr a civilian or mafia? Why?

Well I’ve read this thread pretty piecemeal so no getting onto me for missing a specific think like you did earlier.

I think he’s scum. I don’t believe he scumread Drago D1. I really don’t believe he’s think Colin/Dom/Jack is the best path to victory if he’s town.

I mean, I’m the kind of guy who wolves trip over themselves trying to mislynch cause I don’t look scary. Iaafr looks like a Jay. Wolves only push Jay to distract him or to mimic townness.

Like why does town iaafr think Dom is scum? Or Colin? Or Nova for that matter?

I refuse to let ALL CAPS / emotional manipulation / "I'm not answering your questions" / YOUR GASLIGHTING ME INTO THINKING / I'm not talking to you but I still am and I'm still here even though I said bye /

set the tone for The Syndicate. We play better here. Do not bring that shit into my house.

I also suspect Colin and Jack. So Colin / iaafr / Jack. Good three.

Is Mac still with us? If so, I would add him to this list.
Why is Colin on your list?

doms push on me definitely just felt scummy though like he was looking for somebody to scumread and he didnt even give town me a chance

You had like a billion posts and he had like eight.

Who isn’t giving who a chance?

You’re bleeding agenda, my fluffy friend.

!!!!

[Evenstar]

doms push on me definitely just felt scummy though like he was looking for somebody to scumread and he didnt even give town me a chance

You had like a billion posts and he had like eight.

Who isn’t giving who a chance?

You’re bleeding agenda, my fluffy friend.

!!!!

Stop posting exclamation points in response to other people's posts like that means something. Use your words.

[Dom]

Creature isn’t here tho.

Boom! Roasted.

I was thinking Dom, who is.

[Master Radishes]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.

[Dom]

Creature isn’t here tho.

Boom! Roasted.

I was thinking Dom, who is.

ooooh spicy

tell me about Dom

or you could tell the class about Dom...

[Master Radishes]

Dom is mainly just piling on Rabbit (without going anywhere with is) or engagine Epi in friendly conversation.

[Master Radishes]

Speling iz badd lulz.

Phone posting suxxors.

[Master Radishes]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

[Pawn Lelouch]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.

You're pocketing me + iaafr.

[Dom]

Jack, Epi, sprit: what do you think of Dom’s play so far? I have been waffling and never played him enough to get a good handle anyway.

I’m confident dom is his normal dom self and believe he is town

Albeit the hard part about playing with Dom is making him show up.

Lately, yes.

Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”

I 100% agree with you. I don't like that we're consolidating around the quieter players. (Before you go claiming I've done that too, I gave my reason for suspecting Nova based on his D1 vote, and I disagreed with Colin and Dom as options yesterday and early today; at the moment they're in my PoE but I'm not scumreading them per se. The only one I found scummy in his own right was Sprityo.)

So let's change that then, Jack. I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

"Let's change that"
You suspect me, bro.

Yeah this push on Rabbit from dom is not endearing them to me. Particularly their apparent belief that not voting is a smoking gun.

It's suspicion. It's never been said to be a smoking gun.

People who are dicks are >rand scum.

I went against this principle with dragomir, and look where it got me.

Rabbit's just town. Not so sure about you or epi though.

LOL

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

People like y'all truly remind me why I took like the longest break from Mafia and why I really just don't have a compulsive urge to play anymore.

Stop posting exclamation points in response to other people's posts like that means something. Use your words.

I'm stating I agree with something.

Dom is mainly just piling on Rabbit (without going anywhere with is) or engagine Epi in friendly conversation.

....I'm doing this thing called catching up.
And the rabbit made himself about 70% of this thread through acting like a 6 year old.
So, cry me a river that I responded to the content of the thread.

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

Word for word what eva just said.... hmmm.....

Is this what's happening in BTSC as well? Just calling me a dick?
Cute.

[Master Radishes]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.

You're pocketing me + iaafr.

Pfft, you call that spice.

[Dom]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

[Master Radishes]

Jack, Epi, sprit: what do you think of Dom’s play so far? I have been waffling and never played him enough to get a good handle anyway.

I’m confident dom is his normal dom self and believe he is town

Albeit the hard part about playing with Dom is making him show up.

Lately, yes.

Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”

I 100% agree with you. I don't like that we're consolidating around the quieter players. (Before you go claiming I've done that too, I gave my reason for suspecting Nova based on his D1 vote, and I disagreed with Colin and Dom as options yesterday and early today; at the moment they're in my PoE but I'm not scumreading them per se. The only one I found scummy in his own right was Sprityo.)

So let's change that then, Jack. I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

"Let's change that"
You suspect me, bro.

Yeah this push on Rabbit from dom is not endearing them to me. Particularly their apparent belief that not voting is a smoking gun.

It's suspicion. It's never been said to be a smoking gun.

People who are dicks are >rand scum.

I went against this principle with dragomir, and look where it got me.

Rabbit's just town. Not so sure about you or epi though.

LOL

@speedchuck

People like y'all truly remind me why I took like the longest break from Mafia and why I really just don't have a compulsive urge to play anymore.

Stop posting exclamation points in response to other people's posts like that means something. Use your words.

I'm stating I agree with something.

Dom is mainly just piling on Rabbit (without going anywhere with is) or engagine Epi in friendly conversation.

....I'm doing this thing called catching up.
And the rabbit made himself about 70% of this thread through acting like a 6 year old.
So, cry me a river that I responded to the content of the thread.

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

Word for word what eva just said.... hmmm.....

Is this what's happening in BTSC as well? Just calling me a dick?
Cute.

I actually said a couple times I don't really suspect you, you're just in my/thread consensus PoE somewhat by default.

Catching up is fine, but your iaafr posts were unnecessary and uncontributive. If you suspect him, say why instead of being just being mean about it.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Give me everything you got on Dom and Colin. Like as if your life depended on reading them correctly.

Dom is largely just aggression against iaafr and Colin exists as vague flailing without direction. That's it. We're on D3 and that is literally all I can remember about the two of them.

Dom at least can be argued that he's gone for the iaafr fight, he has just looked consistently horrible with every time he's pushed it. Being dickish/overly aggro and largely not providing constructive arguments to pick at him. So Dom's only contributions are ones that I do find sus and so he's placed there fairly easily. It colors the entire tone of his work essentially.

And Colin has done so little actual work it took until today for me to actually remember his name. There's a reason I've been calling him Rej's replacement. And maybe it could be argued that his confused flailing is mildly towny but frankly? With that being all he has, I have seen nothing that would move him from the bottom bracket to take the 6th slot on my readslist.

Past a certain point of time, with people clearing themselves in my mind it just comes down to a process of elimination and reevaling as needed.

[Dom]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

[Evenstar]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

[Evenstar]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

I literally have been scumreading Epi for being an unnecessary dick since like a page ago.

Stop playing the victim.

[Dom]

"Dom is rude"
'Dom is a dick"
"Dom is overly aggro"

k

I truly cannot believe that I'm somehow the problem.

[Pawn Lelouch]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.

You're pocketing me + iaafr.

Pfft, you call that spice.

Hey, you're the one who said within the realm of possibility. Otherwise I would have said it was a scum team of iaafr, ES, and myself on this level, with our goal being to powerwolf it, with me and iaafr intentionally drawing attention for scum ES to go deep.

Except I'm not scum and both are TRs so it's not possible sadly.

[Dom]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

Why?

[Pawn Lelouch]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

[Evenstar]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

Why?

Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly

[Dom]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?

[Dom]

Dom, serious question - what's your play here? If you're town, you're not building any more of a case against iaafr, you're just being a dick. And that's fine, but it's not helpful.

I suspect you, the rabbit, mac, hyena, and jack.

That's my angle.

hyena is town
iaafr is town
you're scum

jack and radishes could go either way, rn I'm leaning towards radishes

Why?

Hyena is town because I know how he plays and he's town hyena
iaafr is town because I'm mindmelding with them, and also for other reasons
you're scum because you're not playing the game and hiding that behind fake aggression while trying to buddy up to epignosis
jack is scum because he's not playing the game, but he's doing better with making his thoughts clear today
I'm tinfoiling radishes because he pushed me hard yesterday and it feels like he reversed on me a bit too quickly

Do you realize that this is incredibly unconvincing for someone who doesn't know Hyena or iaafr?


I'm not hiding anything. Vote for me if you want, though.

We agree on Jack. And we agree on radishes. I'd also add he came in late D2 and just seemed so agenda-y.

[Evenstar]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?

Ah yes, you can dish it out but you can't take the consequences.

[sprityo]

Spoiler: show

@ColinIsCool (Rej) w
@Dom w
@Epignosis w
@Evenstar w
@iaafr v
@Jackofhearts2005 w
@Master Radishes v
@Pawn Lelouch v
@sprityo w

theres 3 town and 5 mafia and we gotta vig shot differnet ones with our powersecretvotes pew pew pew pew epw ewp

My three are Pawn, Radishes, Iaafr

Jack, your reads are so different from everyone's. That in itself is fine, but I also feel they're not progressing - isn't this the same three you had yesterday?

(a) Why Pawn?
(b) Why me?
(c) Why Rabbit?

If you've said I genuinely don't remember.

I’ve said like a dozen times.

A) Pawn because his reads are too easy. Suspect the quiet players. Suspect who Iaafr and Radishes are pushing. I don’t think he’s likely scum with you and Iaafr since he feels like a wolf satisfied to sheep wrong reads, not a wolf trying to power through.

B) Because I strongly townread Epi for his interactives yesterday and you came in and pooped all over them. Then LLD and Pawn basically agreed (which is not a good look for them but again, makes ya’ll not looked teamed, at least not all 3 of you). You also put forth a weasel worded attack on Eva. Don’t remember the details, just that you accused her of “chaos posting” when she was saying things I found reasonable.

C) His scumreads don’t make any sense from a town perspective. He’s spending so much time complaining about mechanics and spreading conspiracies that it feels wolfy. I have no idea why I appear to be the lone voice of reason here.

I agree with Jack's Third bullet about rabbit

[Pawn Lelouch]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?

*shrug*

Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?

[sprityo]

If I broke quiet players into groups they would look like

Town
Dom
Nova
Sprityo


Scum
Colin
Quin
LLD

3 of those people arent here jack

[Pawn Lelouch]

I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.

Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.

Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?

*shrug*

Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?

(Clarification since the wording isn't the most ambiguous) People can be dickish without calling names. There's other ways to be so.

[Dom]

I haven't been mean.
I just don't find total temper tantrums in threads interesting or engaging or civ-like behavior when they go on for several pages of a thread. I see a baddie that is upset they were caught in Epi's grasp, flailing trying to do or say anything that will make it all go away.

I asked how old he was for very specific purposes.
I said Donald Trump wrote a post because it's the exact "everyone who disagrees with me is evil" bullshit coming outta that guy.
It is truly a marvel that I'm being construed as mean here. Or a "dick" as you'd all say.

Grasp your pearls somewhere else.

[Evenstar]

oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

[sprityo]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

It doesnt help i read your voice in Rantaro Amami

[Dom]

Spoiler: show

@ColinIsCool (Rej) w
@Dom w
@Epignosis w
@Evenstar w
@iaafr v
@Jackofhearts2005 w
@Master Radishes v
@Pawn Lelouch v
@sprityo w

theres 3 town and 5 mafia and we gotta vig shot differnet ones with our powersecretvotes pew pew pew pew epw ewp

My three are Pawn, Radishes, Iaafr

Jack, your reads are so different from everyone's. That in itself is fine, but I also feel they're not progressing - isn't this the same three you had yesterday?

(a) Why Pawn?
(b) Why me?
(c) Why Rabbit?

If you've said I genuinely don't remember.

I’ve said like a dozen times.

A) Pawn because his reads are too easy. Suspect the quiet players. Suspect who Iaafr and Radishes are pushing. I don’t think he’s likely scum with you and Iaafr since he feels like a wolf satisfied to sheep wrong reads, not a wolf trying to power through.

B) Because I strongly townread Epi for his interactives yesterday and you came in and pooped all over them. Then LLD and Pawn basically agreed (which is not a good look for them but again, makes ya’ll not looked teamed, at least not all 3 of you). You also put forth a weasel worded attack on Eva. Don’t remember the details, just that you accused her of “chaos posting” when she was saying things I found reasonable.

C) His scumreads don’t make any sense from a town perspective. He’s spending so much time complaining about mechanics and spreading conspiracies that it feels wolfy. I have no idea why I appear to be the lone voice of reason here.

I agree with Jack's Third bullet about rabbit

I do too.
I just don't know how much I trust Jack.

[Pawn Lelouch]

oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

Was rather hoping to not mention that possibility. Figured we could keep him alive pretty easily without mentioning the possibility that could give us an edge during the day phase.

[Dom]

oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

I have no iea what you're talking about and won't take orders from anyone ?

Like... wtf ?

Why do you think that I'm beholden to you?

[Pawn Lelouch]

I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.

Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.

It doesnt help i read your voice in Rantaro Amami

Yep, that's a large part of why I have the avie. It hits my personality and playstyle so damn well. I love it.

[Evenstar]

oh for crying out loud

okay, I'm putting a stop to this

Rabbit's hold-off on voting makes him extremely likely the doublevoter, which makes him mech town

now everybody shut up and investigate other people

Was rather hoping to not mention that possibility. Figured we could keep him alive pretty easily without mentioning the possibility that could give us an edge during the day phase.

same but now like four people are scumreading him

best to nip this in the bud before he becomes a massive distraction

[sprityo]

Creature isn’t here tho.

Boom! Roasted.

I was thinking Dom, who is.

ooooh spicy

tell me about Dom

or you could tell the class about Dom...

Why do the work when Epi can do it for me? :eyeroll:

What should i look for dom, besides you commenting on Rabbit's spam post (albeit yes i agree it's a bit heinous)

I'm waiting for you to put something out there that isnt a response to something else. In fact I'll go double check your ISO right now to see if you have any, I just can't recall it right now