Inception [Inception Phase 4]

Who threatens the subconscious mind?

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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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btw if i move layers I refuse to archive threads it feels against the spirit tbh

I need to train up my memory palace anyway
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:40 am @Dom

you seem to be under the impression Jack's unfairly tunneling you? can you quote where you started feeling that?
Nah.
Jack didn't say shit about me until people told him to have opinions or die. So he went with the suspicion de jour.
Jack read me as bad out of nowhere and seems to have dropped it out of nowhere. Just think his reads aren't organic whatsoever.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 am epi and Jack are just so much more robust and holistic in their treatment of gameplay

if there is a scum it is dom
....Jack is being robust and holistic?
This is a load of barnacles.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 am also jack I don't think creatures town in this game man
How the hell do you have an opinion on a player we haven't seen since Day 1 and have no clue that they're still even in the game?
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 am pawns entry on Dom was also strange

he called Dom like overaggressive etc but didn't really link it to how he's scum like he did with his other scumreads

at least iirc im not gonna look yet

it'll be fun to see if I remembered pawns dom thing being weird

I definitely think pawn/Dom makes sense as a pairing

and it might've just been 7v2
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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:46 am I also believe MacDougall is town, still.
1) How do you know Macdougall is still in the game?
2) Why do you have a strong opinion on someone who you haven't seen for two game phases?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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idk if he's dead or alive but postgame cred and tangential associations with my current world
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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just randomly thought about my reads from d1 and d2 while thinking about other reads
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:20 am and if there's 2 scum on this layer it's epi and Dom but idk Eva's right I don't think an epi Dom scumteam ever plays this game like they did...

anyway I just want to believe we're supposed to vote scum so yeah aborting the voting me idea

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

I think his treatment of pawn was awkward too, @Epignosis I'd like you to reread Dom's posts around the time you started suspecting pawn. he was especially insightful about how he treated you and him differently, as if he was hyper aware of what pawn was doing. I don't believe that pawn wouldn't bus in this setup.
That’s a big part of the problem.

It’s a lot easier to bus if you have multiple lives.

It’s also a lot easier to not bus when you can’t have a clear top suspect and votes are hidden.
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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 am epi and Jack are just so much more robust and holistic in their treatment of gameplay

if there is a scum it is dom
FYI I had to look up what “holistic” means.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:29 am I think I have to believe if we kill Dom the scum in this layer we all get to go back one layer up after the final layer resolves?
Maybe?

That makes the bottom layer worthless.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 am also jack I don't think creatures town in this game man
Why?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:36 am I mean I guess all the complainings Towny of him but doesn't he have to do that as scum

meh maybe I was wrong on that one
He tends to complain more as town and joke more as scum.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Don’t tell him I said that.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:48 am if there's a third scum in the previous phase I still believe it's radishes
I mean, Radishes is the first wolf. Pawn is the second. Dom is maybe the third if there’s a third.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 am so jack was 2 for 3 and I got pocketed by both scum for awhile because it's what was convenient for them while everybody else except Eva sussed me
Guess I’m just champs material. :grin:

I’ll take the cred now and hope if I’m wrong, people forget by game end.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid. 😒

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:55 am
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:40 am @Dom

you seem to be under the impression Jack's unfairly tunneling you? can you quote where you started feeling that?
Nah.
Jack didn't say shit about me until people told him to have opinions or die. So he went with the suspicion de jour.
Jack read me as bad out of nowhere and seems to have dropped it out of nowhere. Just think his reads aren't organic whatsoever.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 am epi and Jack are just so much more robust and holistic in their treatment of gameplay

if there is a scum it is dom
....Jack is being robust and holistic?
This is a load of barnacles.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 am also jack I don't think creatures town in this game man
How the hell do you have an opinion on a player we haven't seen since Day 1 and have no clue that they're still even in the game?
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 am pawns entry on Dom was also strange

he called Dom like overaggressive etc but didn't really link it to how he's scum like he did with his other scumreads

at least iirc im not gonna look yet

it'll be fun to see if I remembered pawns dom thing being weird

I definitely think pawn/Dom makes sense as a pairing

and it might've just been 7v2
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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:46 am I also believe MacDougall is town, still.
1) How do you know Macdougall is still in the game?
2) Why do you have a strong opinion on someone who you haven't seen for two game phases?
Shrug city.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:01 am
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:48 am if there's a third scum in the previous phase I still believe it's radishes
I mean, Radishes is the first wolf. Pawn is the second. Dom is maybe the third if there’s a third.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 am so jack was 2 for 3 and I got pocketed by both scum for awhile because it's what was convenient for them while everybody else except Eva sussed me
Guess I’m just champs material. :grin:

I’ll take the cred now and hope if I’m wrong, people forget by game end.
There is such an obvious reason for why I'm not on a team with Pawn or radishes. or Eva.

There is no way I'd have that argument in the thread. There is no way I'd still be playing the game if my team was speaking to me that way.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 am I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid. 😒

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
....why do you know radishes will be with "us"

This is so freaking weird that you have been assuming so much knowledge about the game. What do you know, why do you know it, and how do you know it?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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The disadvantage to no lynching (scum present or not) very much depends on what happens when a team is eliminated from the top later altogether.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:01 am
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:48 am if there's a third scum in the previous phase I still believe it's radishes
I mean, Radishes is the first wolf. Pawn is the second. Dom is maybe the third if there’s a third.
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 am so jack was 2 for 3 and I got pocketed by both scum for awhile because it's what was convenient for them while everybody else except Eva sussed me
Guess I’m just champs material. :grin:

I’ll take the cred now and hope if I’m wrong, people forget by game end.
There is such an obvious reason for why I'm not on a team with Pawn or radishes. or Eva.

There is no way I'd have that argument in the thread. There is no way I'd still be playing the game if my team was speaking to me that way.
There could be something to this. I had you not teamed with Rabbit cause I think the fight sounded real. Also cause Sprityo had similar reactions.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 am I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid. 😒

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
....why do you know radishes will be with "us"

This is so freaking weird that you have been assuming so much knowledge about the game. What do you know, why do you know it, and how do you know it?
I assume Radishes gets lynched today back to us. If not, idk what happens if scum wins the “final three.”

Surely they don’t just win cause why are we here if that’s the case?

They might all three come back to us regardless of their lynch.

So Radish should come back to us in a lot of possible worlds and we can and should lynch him tomorrow regardless of who we lynch today.
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To answer your question, Dom, I’m guessing based off what we’ve seen, what’s in the movie and what would make for a not pointless game.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

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Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:05 pm So "kicked from this dream level" is not dead?
i think it might not be. Maybe you go back up a level in the threads etc.
Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm Oh great. So even less info.

I guess we just play this like a 9-player game with shall we say 2 mafia?

It's kind of impossible not carry forward prior reads, but without info from flips what else can we do?
you're so bad.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:37 pm My opening three are ColinisCool, iaafr, JackofHearts2005.
what about radishes?
This is a good look from Dom’s iso.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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I don't get it.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:23 am
Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 am I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid. 😒

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
....why do you know radishes will be with "us"

This is so freaking weird that you have been assuming so much knowledge about the game. What do you know, why do you know it, and how do you know it?
I assume Radishes gets lynched today back to us. If not, idk what happens if scum wins the “final three.”

Surely they don’t just win cause why are we here if that’s the case?

They might all three come back to us regardless of their lynch.

So Radish should come back to us in a lot of possible worlds and we can and should lynch him tomorrow regardless of who we lynch today.
How do you know where he is?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:23 am
Dom wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 am I’m not certain there’s a wolf at all at this level. If there is, I’m not certain it’s Dom. Like I townread Epi for most of the game and then he told me my read on him was stupid. 😒

What’s the disadvantage to lynching if there is no wolf?

We’re lynching Radishes tomorrow regardless.
....why do you know radishes will be with "us"

This is so freaking weird that you have been assuming so much knowledge about the game. What do you know, why do you know it, and how do you know it?
I assume Radishes gets lynched today back to us. If not, idk what happens if scum wins the “final three.”

Surely they don’t just win cause why are we here if that’s the case?

They might all three come back to us regardless of their lynch.

So Radish should come back to us in a lot of possible worlds and we can and should lynch him tomorrow regardless of who we lynch today.
How do you know where he is?
He was here yesterday. We didn’t lynch him. He’s not here today (along with Sprityo and Eva).

It stands to reason that there is one more dream level (just like in the movie) and like D2 and D3, those three players went down on D4. We just stayed in the same spot D4.

Meanwhile, Mac and Michelle and everyone we played with D2 but not D3 (deaths aside) should be on the D2 thread. And whoever we played with on D1 but not D2 (besides Drago and other deaths) should be in the original thread.

Do I know this? No. I suspect it based on what happens to us after each day and the movie and the flips/kicks.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:27 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:23 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:21 pm Can we please coach iaafr for now? Worry about titles later?
Okay. We’re all in agreement there is exactly one wolf in Sprityo, Eva, Radish, yeah?
I'm not. If I had to gamble, I'd say they're all good.
Then what the fuck are they doing not here?
Having a picnic in the arctic?
No, we’re in the artic.

Here I found a map.

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[mention]Dom[/mention]

Look.

Dream Level 1 is (in theory) where D1 took place. The green line is Juliets and LC and whoever else we only played with D1. They should still be playing down there and getting flips.

Dream Level 2 is where D2 took place for us and Mac and Michelle and all are the orange line.

We’re the blue line. Went down on DL 3 on D3 and stayed there.

Purple/Red/Yellow/Brown should be Eva/Sprityo/Radishes. They’d be at DL4 today.

This is how I’d do it. This is how Jay and Sloonei appear to be doing it. I could be wrong.

This is Realms “solving.” :nicenod:
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Dom comes back like “I don’t get it and I haven’t seen the movie.”
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If Dom votes me, I’m voting Epi for the lulz.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:57 am
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 am also jack I don't think creatures town in this game man
Why?
I reread d1 during n1 and I feel like he both defended and acted awkward around Drago
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 am
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:05 pm So "kicked from this dream level" is not dead?
i think it might not be. Maybe you go back up a level in the threads etc.
Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm Oh great. So even less info.

I guess we just play this like a 9-player game with shall we say 2 mafia?

It's kind of impossible not carry forward prior reads, but without info from flips what else can we do?
you're so bad.
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:37 pm My opening three are ColinisCool, iaafr, JackofHearts2005.
what about radishes?
This is a good look from Dom’s iso.
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I guess I’ll have to take your word for it or go find Epi’s notes on him.

If I make it back down to DL1 and Creature is still there, I will be surprised. I’m usually his lone defender when he’s town and a lot of the players here have even less experience with him. And maybe he’s scum anyway.
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Creature stuff is inconclusive. Could be a wolf I guess.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]

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did epi rly try to punk me by googling the setup to argue for voting me...
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His link was dead. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I think Epi is town, though. In my heart of Jacks.
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I’m leaning towards just punting. I think we’re all town here and will have a better time tomorrow, assuming all three players below come back.
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I am ok with nl sure

just curious what epi thinks of my Dom thoughts if he ends up giving them a fair shot
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:36 pm His link was dead. 🤷🏻‍♂️
What link?
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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 pm I am ok with nl sure

just curious what epi thinks of my Dom thoughts if he ends up giving them a fair shot
Which thoughts? Your posts run the gamut of all possible thoughts and even impossibilities. ;)
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the thoughts that ive expressed suspecting Dom on the last page
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feel like you keep being deliberately obtuse just to get quips in
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would hope you'd be clever enough to simultaneously answer questions in good faith and get quips in
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stop "ribbing" me tbh we aren't friends
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I will if you stop using four posts when one will do.

I don't have an opinion on them because I haven't read them yet. I skimmed them. I didn't figure there would be a quiz, or I thought you'd change your mind by the time I got to them. I'll look over them when I am able.
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hey every post of yours annoys me but I don't make constant reference to it
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I don't make constant reference to yours either. :shrug2:
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except every time I ask you a game related question you act unnecessarily condescending and obstinate and uncooperative in your answer
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if you don't want to answer yet don't post

don't quote my questions and post jabs at me in response
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you are like 90% of the reason i have trouble finding this game enjoyable
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imagine if you could make amusing fluff posts that didn't involve being a dick to me
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Yeah, I'm going to pass on reading your Dom stuff.
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iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:43 pm imagine if you could make amusing fluff posts that didn't involve being a dick to me
Translation: Epi, why can’t you be more like your brother, Jack? :grin:
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