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Who threatens the subconscious mind?

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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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I don't know because I don't remember a damn thing about them
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Nutella has no respect for my play at all and freaking Dom is telling me I need more content. :disappoint:
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:58 pm Nutella has no respect for my play at all and freaking Dom is telling me I need more content. :disappoint:
Lol what.

Respect for your play?

When your "play" has been mostly buddying me and not really doing anything productive, and overall less content than I usually see from town jack.

What is there to respect or disrespect?

I want to see you play at all lol.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:00 pm Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.
Jack or Elephant?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:45 pm @Evenstar, walk me through why your vote didn't end up on Dragomir after you had a "double-barreled FoS" on him.
It did. Then I had a crisi of faith because I thought I was just voting him for being a creep. :shrug2:
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Or TL I guess. Whatever
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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I've had enough for today.

In answer to [mention]Dom[/mention]'s statement that he'd like to see more from me I'm having problems on several fronts that have kept me quiet.

One is I am thoroughly confused about this F3 thing. What kind of advantage was there for either faction? If there is one person who is mafia who the hell is it? I'm not feeling Eva, MR or sprityo. Is Epi's conjecture right? Or is everyone else who says there had to be a mafia in the group right? I don't see the argument as easily on that side of the coin.

Second, when the game thread gets as ugly as it did today and last night I shut down. Completely. I can't function in that environment. I can tolerate normal game competitiveness and people attacking each other's ideas but when it gets personal I can't be a part of it. Eva's post made me feel better and I am hopeful that we won't have another flare up of emotions after today (I mention Eva only because I think she tried to diffuse what was happening).

Finally, I am overwhelmed by the amount of information that came into the thread today. I keep seeing things and saying "what? what are they talking about?" I haven't read sprityo's second F3 post yet and I feel like there is important info in there but I just can't take one more piece of info tonight.

The good news is I will be refreshed in the morning and hopefully will feel differently about the whole game. Maybe not as confused, maybe not as overwhelmed. Also I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm just telling you how it is. I would be surprised if I am the only one feeling somewhat overwhelmed.

I'll probably still be around for a bit.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:45 pm @Evenstar, walk me through why your vote didn't end up on Dragomir after you had a "double-barreled FoS" on him.
It did. Then I had a crisi of faith because I thought I was just voting him for being a creep. :shrug2:
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:00 pm Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.
Jack or Elephant?
Out of the two, I'd lynch Jack.

I still have to see about Elephant though.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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I would lynch Jack.

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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:58 pm Nutella has no respect for my play at all and freaking Dom is telling me I need more content. :disappoint:
Lol what.

Respect for your play?

When your "play" has been mostly buddying me and not really doing anything productive, and overall less content than I usually see from town jack.

What is there to respect or disrespect?

I want to see you play at all lol.
You think me townreading you and scumreading Eva and by pushing you into the lead with a 🤫 emoji and no explanation with about 24 hours to go is me attempting to save Eva?

Stop being so basic.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:03 pm Or TL I guess. Whatever
Depends if there was definitely a Mafia with us the whole way. If there wasn't one in the F3, then why should there be one on the surface? His Drago vote looks pretty good... it's just that when we were a diminished number of players (and assuming a couple of Mafiosos with us), he looked the worst.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:06 pm I would lynch Jack.

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[VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine :grin:
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Just a sec. I’m cutting up an image.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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From my analysis, Jack is a suspect. He can be lynched today. I encourage it.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:00 pm Dom, nutella:

Give Evenstar another Day. Find someone else. There isn't just two mafia members. And I don't think it's her right now. Revisit Day 6 if you must.

I think Evenstar is a dumb lynch.
ok that's fine.
I'm looking into other options regardless.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:58 pm Nutella has no respect for my play at all and freaking Dom is telling me I need more content. :disappoint:
Explain this comment.

juliets wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:04 pm I've had enough for today.

In answer to Dom's statement that he'd like to see more from me I'm having problems on several fronts that have kept me quiet.

One is I am thoroughly confused about this F3 thing. What kind of advantage was there for either faction? If there is one person who is mafia who the hell is it? I'm not feeling Eva, MR or sprityo. Is Epi's conjecture right? Or is everyone else who says there had to be a mafia in the group right? I don't see the argument as easily on that side of the coin.

Second, when the game thread gets as ugly as it did today and last night I shut down. Completely. I can't function in that environment. I can tolerate normal game competitiveness and people attacking each other's ideas but when it gets personal I can't be a part of it. Eva's post made me feel better and I am hopeful that we won't have another flare up of emotions after today (I mention Eva only because I think she tried to diffuse what was happening).

Finally, I am overwhelmed by the amount of information that came into the thread today. I keep seeing things and saying "what? what are they talking about?" I haven't read sprityo's second F3 post yet and I feel like there is important info in there but I just can't take one more piece of info tonight.

The good news is I will be refreshed in the morning and hopefully will feel differently about the whole game. Maybe not as confused, maybe not as overwhelmed. Also I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm just telling you how it is. I would be surprised if I am the only one feeling somewhat overwhelmed.

I'll probably still be around for a bit.
I didn't ask for an explanation of why no content, I asked for content, with fairness.

And with fairness, if you don't want my opinion on the "ugliness" stop bringing it up. I have a very different impression of those events and if you don't want me talking about it, don't bring it up.

I'm sick of being maligned for playing the damn game.

So instead of several paragraphs with zero direction to them and just excuses for lack of content-- how about you produce some content?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] is skating by here.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:16 pm Just a sec. I’m cutting up an image.
this says it all
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm @Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
'cause they are Pawn, and also Town
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm @Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
'cause they are Pawn, and also Town
Is there any substance to this or just your random read?
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Ok I'm out.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Dom fwiw I've been more or less convinced that Pawn was likely NKed so probably town -- caveat there is that by then the scum know NKs weren't actually dying in that level so maybe they deliberately targeted one of their own to throw us off.
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Dom wrote:Explain this comment.
I got ten times your post count and I know you haven’t read most of my posts. Don’t ask me for content.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm @Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
'cause they are Pawn, and also Town
Is there any substance to this or just your random read?
Pawn and I are like personal nemeses at this point. If you can't trust our reads on each other, you can't trust anyone's.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
When I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
When I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
And because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?
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Don't try to throw Epi's play back in his face. That's not a good look.
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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
When I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
And because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?
No, I expect you to take note of it and keep it in mind later when we don’t have obvious suspects.

I don’t care if you scumread me. I’m never lynched, much less today.

I care if you think I’m so bad as a wolf that I’d put a naked vote on a townread as a save attempt.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:23 pm Dom fwiw I've been more or less convinced that Pawn was likely NKed so probably town -- caveat there is that by then the scum know NKs weren't actually dying in that level so maybe they deliberately targeted one of their own to throw us off.
why do you think he was night killed?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Dom wrote:Explain this comment.
I got ten times your post count and I know you haven’t read most of my posts. Don’t ask me for content.
Nah.
Try again.

I didn't read Day 1 for the most part, you're right. Is that most of your posts? If so-- that's concerning.
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Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm @Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
'cause they are Pawn, and also Town
Is there any substance to this or just your random read?
Pawn and I are like personal nemeses at this point. If you can't trust our reads on each other, you can't trust anyone's.
I'll take this as truth, but I have zero incentive to trust you in the first place.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
He's bad. That's why.
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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:32 pm Don't try to throw Epi's play back in his face. That's not a good look.
Hopeless. Honestly.
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I’m sorry [mention]Dom[/mention].

I actually only have three times your posts. All the more reason for you to actually read them.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 5]

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Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:21 pm
Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:17 pm @Pawn Lelouch is skating by here.
why?
'cause they are Pawn, and also Town
Is there any substance to this or just your random read?
Pawn and I are like personal nemeses at this point. If you can't trust our reads on each other, you can't trust anyone's.
You are in The Syndicate now. Your views on each other do not carry any weight when Pawn's vote is still on me.

From my perspective, he's lazy mafia. Get him to do better. Otherwise I don't need him.
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I’d ask Epi to match his votes and his reads but I might as well try to tell the moon what to do.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:36 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:12 pm LC and Epi both jumped btw.
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
When I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
And because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?
No, I expect you to take note of it and keep it in mind later when we don’t have obvious suspects.

I don’t care if you scumread me. I’m never lynched, much less today.

I care if you think I’m so bad as a wolf that I’d put a naked vote on a townread as a save attempt.
I don't care if you were trying to trap Epi or whatever. I don't think that's the sole reason he voted for you. I think you're just a wolf here and your bizarre gambits don't make you look any better.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:42 pm I’d ask Epi to match his votes and his reads but I might as well try to tell the moon what to do.
Why would you do that?
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Dom wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:37 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:23 pm Dom fwiw I've been more or less convinced that Pawn was likely NKed so probably town -- caveat there is that by then the scum know NKs weren't actually dying in that level so maybe they deliberately targeted one of their own to throw us off.
why do you think he was night killed?
He has explained that he and Colin were the two to get kicked out of some level, and it made no sense for Colin to be the NK since he was a low poster and so the assumption was Colin was the lynch and Pawn was the NK.

However now that I've thought of that caveat I'm pondering Eva/Pawn powerwolf tinfoil again.
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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:36 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:26 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:22 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:13 pm

what?
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I don't get it. What are you talking about when you say LC and Epi both jumped?
When I voted you, both of them jumped on me.
And because you baited their votes you expect me to worship you now rather than just assume that they are right?
No, I expect you to take note of it and keep it in mind later when we don’t have obvious suspects.

I don’t care if you scumread me. I’m never lynched, much less today.

I care if you think I’m so bad as a wolf that I’d put a naked vote on a townread as a save attempt.
I don't care if you were trying to trap Epi or whatever. I don't think that's the sole reason he voted for you. I think you're just a wolf here and your bizarre gambits don't make you look any better.
You don’t like when I’m missing. You don’t like when I tell jokes. You don’t like when I can easily townread you. You don’t like when I try to bait votes.

What exactly do you want me to do here?
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:38 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:32 pm Don't try to throw Epi's play back in his face. That's not a good look.
Hopeless. Honestly.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:45 pm
You don’t like when I’m missing. You don’t like when I tell jokes. You don’t like when I can easily townread you. You don’t like when I try to bait votes.

What exactly do you want me to do here?
Uh. Find scum??
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nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:38 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:32 pm Don't try to throw Epi's play back in his face. That's not a good look.
Hopeless. Honestly.
I don't think you can convince me Epi is scum at this stage lol. Try somewhere else.
I’m voting Eva.
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ok finally worked up the will to log in

who should I sheep

first one to mention me with a good reason gets my vote
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