Inception [END]

[nutella]

Ok thanks sprit

[iaafr]

i feel like momentum keeps building up on hyena and TL from town sources and it keeps getting diverted

i would probably like to kill them both at some point

[iaafr]

oh but hyenas voting tl now

but i mean yall did just ml 3 people in a row so no reason not for people to be distancey

[iaafr]

i think i like TL more than hyena and i dont trust hyena's presence generally

so yea if nutella's town and incorrectly townread somebody early hyenas probably in there

[sprityo]

Dom fwiw I've been more or less convinced that Pawn was likely NKed so probably town -- caveat there is that by then the scum know NKs weren't actually dying in that level so maybe they deliberately targeted one of their own to throw us off.

why do you think he was night killed?

He has explained that he and Colin were the two to get kicked out of some level, and it made no sense for Colin to be the NK since he was a low poster and so the assumption was Colin was the lynch and Pawn was the NK.

However now that I've thought of that caveat I'm pondering Eva/Pawn powerwolf tinfoil again.

Just to make sure you understood the situation, on end of day 3 there was no lynch result. On the start of day 4 two people were kicked.

[iaafr]

ill just stay on elephant for now because im torn here

hyena wagon building would be nice

would prefer [mention]112[/mention] get off evenstar for today and talk to me more about hyena and elephant

i dont trust these animals

[sprityo]

ok so

havent read anything and dont really want to

im kinda surprised epi/jack/dom, who comprised my layer of 4 people last phase, arnet pushing pawn cuz i thought we all agreed pawn was scum

i dont actually care enough to investigate pawn or vote him but yea he might be scum if epi/jack/dom are all town which they might be

i thought jack was rly towny in the most recent phase

and thats my update from my town perspective

leave it cuz i know you guys sure aint taking it

Do you think pawn was lynched day 3?

[iaafr]

ok so

havent read anything and dont really want to

im kinda surprised epi/jack/dom, who comprised my layer of 4 people last phase, arnet pushing pawn cuz i thought we all agreed pawn was scum

i dont actually care enough to investigate pawn or vote him but yea he might be scum if epi/jack/dom are all town which they might be

i thought jack was rly towny in the most recent phase

and thats my update from my town perspective

leave it cuz i know you guys sure aint taking it

Do you think pawn was lynched day 3?

its possible but could you spell out how this information could be useful? i have abstained from speculation as to the meaning of the private votes in the dream layers because i dont see how to get anything from it. im just trying to get back into reading people in more conventional ways.

[iaafr]

btw i have thought mac's town for the majority of this game, and despite my brief moment sussing him, his reaction made me immediately want to town him again.

still think he's wrong on both 112 and lld tho

i forget his 3rd hol up

[iaafr]

macs third sus is long con and i do agree with that one

his iso is very scummy in my opinion. he has thoughts on me that he doesnt follow up on in a town way, he just kinda repeats his image of me and lets it go when i don't answer directly. he voted TLib which might be one of the remaining lowhanging fruit. and i don't see a drive to solve the game. so yeah i'd vote longcon.

[iaafr]

oh hm he's on this wagon hmmmmmmmmm but scum could be feeling distancey now but hmmm hes still outright scummier to me than elephant so lets go with longcon tbh

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

[iaafr]

this is a vote id be happy ending the day on, i think

so no guarantees i show up and change it and stuff

[iaafr]

It's not that useful info

The others should eat it up and admit my actions don't make sense as scum

Uh what?

unless you think I'm quite the daredevil scum

No I legit didn't understand what you were saying. What does "the others should eat it up" refer to

Uh oh, urban dictionary won't be a good guide for this

Let's say it's "make believe" but in a more aggressive way

I still don't know what you're talking about. I know what eat it up means. I don't understand the context. Who are the others? What will they eat up?

Long Con, probably Elephant and Hyena too

They all say I could be scum

oh yeah i alluded to this in phase one

are you guys here aware of the meme that scum love to mislynch creature?

[iaafr]

this games too big man can we skip to d5

going through my own iso looking for where i made that creature allusion and lmfao this post oh my god

[iaafr]

creature don't tell them about the secret creature wagonomics formula

lets just make you a wagon and win the game after

the secret creature formula is to check the vote history and kill everybody who voted him

but he wasnt ml'd this game huh

and its hard to check vote history on this site

[iaafr]

oh holy shit i even have access to the layer with mac/pawn/112 that i wasnt in holyyy shiiiitttt

[iaafr]

oh btw i really did mean to vote nolynch in my layer i just logged out and forgot to change my poll vote before doing so

[iaafr]

alright i just saw that benson and vanity were on boo and come on wtf guys spiny was so towny come on man

[iaafr]

lol i get to be a spec chat warrior while being alive in the game LMFAO

[iaafr]

also jesus that vanity ML

[iaafr]

copypasting my townlist that i made n1

1 scum in here max or i seppuku, this is the never lynch for at least 5 game days towncircle

112
Benson
Evenstar
Hyena
juliets
Long Con
MacDougall
nutella
Quin
Spiny Creature / boo
vanity.

probably town

DFaraday
Dom
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

hmmm might have to seppuku. unfortunate.

[Michelle]

Morning Juliets ^^
Nutella told me you have a TR on Dom and she trusts you. While we were in the dream thread I had nothing to do but think at the sorrounding players. We were few and Dom sticked out as scummy like a sore thumb.
What gives you your TR on him?

Good morning Michelle, it's not Dom I town read. I can't even remember what he posted day 1 and haven't been with him since. Right now I'm not claiming to have a TR on anyone in my group as I want to re-evaluate everyone (I think I stated this earlier) no matter how strong my town read was in the past days.

@nutella you said Juliets TRs Dom? I think you have old news

Literally no idea what you're talking about. I think you must have misread something somewhere. I've only talked about juliets in connection to elephant.

you are right, i confused the 2 idk why in that moment of posting, i searched your post and put it in spoiler

Spoiler: show

Evenstar, Lexi, 112, Jack and Elephant gg.

I wanted to lynch elephant for a couple days and had a huge theory on him, but he is town according to juliets so I backed off. They have some link and part of my theory was that he had pocketed her, bit she insists that's not the case

[iaafr]

hello [mention]Michelle[/mention], it's been awhile. may i ask your current thoughts on long con?

[Michelle]

@Master Radishes when you come back please reconsider that hidden and tricky mecanics may exists and your base to consider one of you 3 scum including you is alike Vanity not self pressing at Eod.
This is not pro town play. At least not for me.
I am not a player to say nice words and I am not a good enough english speaker to be at a higher level but I am not an idiot and at logical level I am usually right. Please reconsider and vote the scummiest player, not from my top town reads ofc

If you're implying that one of Sprit/Eva/me is not scum because of 'tricky mechanics' you're wrong. If it turns out all three of us as town that is when I start calling this a bastard setup.

why you put yourself in a trio when you think one is scum? If you are villager aren't you clear for youself? This looks politically correct and Vanity made a similar thing when he didn't self press but wolves are happy for that and maybe will take advantage again.

[Michelle]

hello @Michelle, it's been awhile. may i ask your current thoughts on long con?

morning sir, my yesterday toughts for LC were a town lean. I have too much to read tbh to make a proper read.

[Michelle]

SO that leaves me to these questions

Why are nutella and juliets town together?
What is the case on 112?
What is up with Michelle and Elephant?
Who am I wrong about from TS?

- I just have reason to believe juliets is town. Nothing to do with me specifically. But supposedly if she is to be trusted, Elephant is town as well. I am still not 100% sold on that but taking her word for it for now.
- idk there are a few things, currently (from stuff she said last night mostly) I think she's just town
- eh they misread each other a bunch
- Jack is scum (plus I'm not 100% sold on Mac and LC but leaning town)

nutella, I'm reconsidering all my reads or things I thought I knew so if you feel strongly about Elephant don't let me stop you.

Mmmmm okay thank you. Eva is still my priority for today but I will keep that in mind. Elephant remains on my list. @Michelle I think you may be right even if I didn't think your reasons were strong. I have other thoughts about scum!Elephant (read my d3-4, or maybe just d4 idr, if you are curious).

I see you see him scum, why not voting him?

[iaafr]

I would like to kill Long Con more than I would like to kill elephant. Long Con is more classically scummy in my opinion.

@Long Con
@Quin

Did ya’ll miss me? I haven’t seen you since I got back. Gimmie some #content.

Soonish. I'll give you my catchup hot takes, still reading up. Epignosis - Evenstar took a turn when Epi decided she's not scum but is actually town, for the Four Reasons. I was seeing Ep as the Civ side of things there, but this turnaround could be a calculated pocketing ploy. LLD and Eva voting nutella is not that cool, nutella has looked very town over the days, and the timing of Eva's vote wasn't the best. 112 maybe sketchy. Michelle maybe sketchy.

This is a very reserved style of writing and the post seems to follow a checklist.

112 captures part of the spirit here

i think ive said this w.r.t nut, perhaps incorrectly, but i dont feel a town undercurrent with long con's thoughts. on elephant, individually, i'm torn. i'd rahter kill long con than elephant.

[Michelle]

Still re-reading, but,

@Michelle, I'm tunneling Elephant now too. Scummy af.

i know this, i remember you had a SR on day 1 too

[iaafr]

then again i dont actually TR elephant so it's fine. also michelle, you should check the poll before talking about votes, nutella's currently voting elephant.

[iaafr]

maybe i should tr elephant though... cuz long con's on him... and im not sure all the pressure on him is all town...

[Michelle]

for this forum users, is normal when i reply to a post who contains a tag that that tag to pop up blue and covering your text?
And if I press enter that tag is self inserring in my message without shame.

It's very annoying and looks like a bug

[Michelle]

then again i dont actually TR elephant so it's fine. also michelle, you should check the poll before talking about votes, nutella's currently voting elephant.

i just woke up, I am still not used to this forum.

[iaafr]

for this forum users, is normal when i reply to a post who contains a tag that that tag to pop up blue and covering your text?
And if I press enter that tag is self inserring in my message without shame.

It's very annoying and looks like a bug

it's a known bug yes

[iaafr]

alright just iso'ed elephant to the point of finding out he's mendel

don't think he's a good lynch today

would much rather do long con still

[nutella]

this games too big man can we skip to d5

going through my own iso looking for where i made that creature allusion and lmfao this post oh my god

LOL

[iaafr]

desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar

[Sloonei]

for this forum users, is normal when i reply to a post who contains a tag that that tag to pop up blue and covering your text?
And if I press enter that tag is self inserring in my message without shame.

It's very annoying and looks like a bug

If anyone else is having this problem along with Michelle, you can get rid of that by deleting the mention tag in the original post.
It is buggy and annoying, you're correct about that.

[Michelle]

maybe i should tr elephant though... cuz long con's on him... and im not sure all the pressure on him is all town...

Elephant is so independently scummy that this doesn't really matter. Being this game so fragmented I didn't make associative reads and I have independent SRs and TRs.

[iaafr]

maybe i should tr elephant though... cuz long con's on him... and im not sure all the pressure on him is all town...

Elephant is so independently scummy that this doesn't really matter. Being this game so fragmented I didn't make associative reads and I have independent SRs and TRs.

he's not that independently scummy to me. i see some holistic processes that have thoughts on things he wouldnt have to as scum. i dont konw. maybe im wrong. its not the strongest townread. i think longcon is far scummier, though.

[iaafr]

sprityos eod analysis looks good at first glance but its still mainly painting evenstar, who i believe is town, as scum

and then the rest of his work doesnt feel like a very solvey direction either

still one of the slots im torn on, but he's just recently kinda prominently on my radar again.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Catching up right now. Going through from the beginning of day 2 and today simultaneously. All I will say is that I want the head of the people behind the Spiny lynch.

it is so fucking good to see you again. help me dunk radishes please.

So how the fuck did iaafr get lynched? In what world does that happen?

I have no clue what you're talking about but I very very much want to murder Hyena and Nutella right now.

I have no issues with a Hyena vote as of this spot in the thread. I called him scummy since D1.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

scummy as hell vote

@Pawn Lelouch why are you voting hyena as of right now

thinking they were scum on d1 isnt good enough imo

Well I decided to not read back because I like having only semi-worn down sanity and going through all of that would snap it. So all I had to go off of at that point is the stated votes/wagons of previous days and I heard nothing about Hyena’s that endeared him to me, and in fact only made him look worse. So I still feel nothing wrong with this vote or option.

now im suddenly tinfoiling that scum!lld has access to the phase 3 that i was in but she wasnt and modelled her character off my rage

feels like tinfoil tho

Good, you acknowledge it is. Even if LLD is scum, and with how much I agree with her general sentiments I'm considering it super likely. It isn’t her modeling off you, it’s genuine annoyance regardless of alignment.

[iaafr]

by eod analysis i mean eod1 vote analysis

[Michelle]

desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar

what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.

[Pawn Lelouch]

alright just iso'ed elephant to the point of finding out he's mendel

don't think he's a good lynch today

would much rather do long con still

Wait, is he actually mendel?

[iaafr]

yeah i think youre fine for now pawn. do you agree with me on sussing longcon? lend me your perspective on his iso? is it as scummy to you as it is to me?

[iaafr]

desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar

what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.

elephant is not cleared id just rather flip longcon first

im not totally confident on hyena or quin

has quin done any solving you like especially? or has he towntold in other ways?

[iaafr]

Also, hiiii Mendel. <3

Thank you for the warm welcome!
This is my only Syndicate account, so technically it is not an alt. JJJ knew all along, and so did nutella. I've become the Elephant because I felt a bit of an imposter for not actually advancing in the championship, because I wanted to conceal my presence from some participants (not here now), and because I wanted to try out a more considered and less emotional and aggressive posting style. I'd prefer to keep the style, though I can drop it if that helps resolve me. I guess it's good that this isn't an anon game, eh?

Hahaha it IS you! I hope this doesn't mean you will stop posting Elephant pics!

@Elephant are you Mendel? This may explain the refference to Mendel's playstyle.
<3 i still think you are scum but I hope you will understand it because randing scum is part of the game

Yes.
You still haven't answered the question.

yes elephant is mendel

[Pawn Lelouch]

Good, you acknowledge it is. Even if LLD is scum, and with how much I agree with her general sentiments I'm considering it super likely. It isn’t her modeling off you, it’s genuine annoyance regardless of alignment.

*not considering it super likely

One missing word changes that sentence's meaning a lot.

[iaafr]

alright just iso'ed elephant to the point of finding out he's mendel

don't think he's a good lynch today

would much rather do long con still

Wait, is he actually mendel?

are you actually salty too? if i read the layer you were in for the last phase will i find you being salty?

im still repeatedly paranoid on you but id like to trust you but i feel like you just dont push quite hard enough at finding a lead i can totally mindmeld with u on and tunnel hard

i mean we kinda tunneled epi/dom together and then when you were gone i kinda turned on you again and just townread epi/dom again and now im torn on all 3 of you again it kind of sucks

[Michelle]

desired wagons: hyena, longcon, quin

desired vetoes: elephant, evenstar

what are you on with desiring wagoning Quin? He is my TR
and what's that veto on Elephant? is he cleared in your eyes? Also Eve don't look like shes wolfing.

elephant is not cleared id just rather flip longcon first

im not totally confident on hyena or quin

has quin done any solving you like especially? or has he towntold in other ways?

You have a natural tendency to tinfoil things. I have a TR on Quin and one of the reasons is lack of agenda. Elephant has an agenda and it's visible.