Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 3]

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

No not at all. That's how you seem to me. What do you think of what I said, as opposed to how I said it?

You said I try hard. You didn't speculate about my AI. I think you avoid the point here.

My impression coming into Day 1 was that S~V~S and Michelle were teammates.

So this is a neat exchange. I no longer have that impression.

I agree that they're not aligned.

[Tangrowth]

It’s -EV to use the term EV

Would it be plus EV to use the term -EV then?

This is my favorite exchange.

[Tangrowth]

Mac is lock town.

[Tangrowth]

@Long Con @M Plus 7 Which one of you is town? I will believe the first who claims it.

I'm guessing I've been beaten out by now, but I am town.

[Tangrowth]

I want MP now. This won't cut it. I will not Jodie Foster this behavior. He must die.

[VOTE: MSEVEN] aubergine

You can have me any time.

[Tangrowth]

This is the silliest shit I've ever heard.

"Epi doesn't talk to his teammates."

"Epi isn't talking to Dyslexicon"

"Gotem fam" -DH probably.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: MP7] aubergine

I'll still lynch you Day 1.

Bring it.

[Tangrowth]

Honestly Epi reads town to me. I don't support that lynch.

[Tangrowth]

Nutella, if you are a civilian, and you think MacDougall made good points, then I don't know what hell to think about you whatsoever.

Good night.

As someone who saw right through you in GOC from spec chat, yeah, he made good points.

I have no knowledge about GOC, so can nutella and/or someone else enlighten me here?

I find it hard to believe that Epi has suddenly changed after one game. This reads like normal Epi to me for the most part. Tonally he reads town.

[Tangrowth]

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

IMO this is not a productive post. People do things. I, for one, wasn't around yesterday because I spent my time doing other things. Let's not bring that into the game.

[Tangrowth]

Hey y'all I was having a Dominion Game Night and now it's 1:30 am and I'm a bit drunk, but I skimmed through and caught up. Lots of Epi-nutella-Dizzy stuff going on, and I skimmed that Mac post that nutella said was too efforty... nah, I don't really have a grip right now. Gonna get up to bat tomorrow with some carefully thought-out and scholarly analyses.

Nutella never said it was too efforty. Put that bullshit back in your bullshit holder.

As someone who is catching up at warp speed right now, I can see how someone might have gotten that impression from that one post, although in combination with nutella's other posts it's less clear.

[Epignosis]

I need to steal a page out of Dyslexicon's playbook.

Our AC is fixed.

[Michelle]

Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)

I have a couple of mechanics questions. I have not played very many games with a matrix like this one has, and I am not 100% on the terminology.

What is a "strongman"? And a "Role Doc", that is a role checker, right?

Ok, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p

A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.

A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy

[Tangrowth]

And I didn't "tag along" on anything easily.

I voted my damn self and even said in my head I had S~V~S as Michelle's teammate.

Why

Yeah, I am kinda "why" about this, too.

When I answered your question about the DH since this is something I know, and feel very strongly about, Michelle acted like this was somehow sooper helpful information, when the host told us it was a flavor theme. My post was borderline OT banter and it gave me a chance to be pedantic, lol.

That was the extent of our interaction before I said I thought she seemed to be trying too hard.

If Epi thinks I, as a baddie in a format I am not comfortable with, would engage in fluffing with my teammates in thread, well, he don't know me at all do he? and I don't really know Michelles game, but from what people said about her in the Champs game, I gather she is a good player, is fluffing her teammates something she is known to do? It seems like a bizarre thing for baddies to do.

So yeah, not sure why he would think that.

Re Mac v Epi, I don't agree with everything Mac says on a quick skim, but I think he really believes it. So I feel good about him, between the two I am more wary of Epi.

Back to catch up.

I want to town read SVS for this train of thought despite not agreeing with it.

Personally, I think suspicions that are based on whether someone should know something or not are grasping at straws.

Why would you say that between the two you’re more wary of Epi? You had just said you town read Mac, so why would you need to choose between the two?

[nutella]

Nutella, if you are a civilian, and you think MacDougall made good points, then I don't know what hell to think about you whatsoever.

Good night.

As someone who saw right through you in GOC from spec chat, yeah, he made good points.

I have no knowledge about GOC, so can nutella and/or someone else enlighten me here?

I find it hard to believe that Epi has suddenly changed after one game. This reads like normal Epi to me for the most part. Tonally he reads town.

It's not important. Better you bring in your own unbiased read of Epi in this game alone. I'll take it into consideration.

[Tangrowth]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

[Tangrowth]

Nut, SVS, Mac and Epi are all very likely to be town imo. If I'm wrong on Michelle idfk, but I don't feel like I am.

LC's post was bad and MP hasn't posted which is also bad. So it's Michelle plus one of LC and MP. I'm good a mafia sometimes, you've seen it. And if I'm not, blame my teammate Epi.

If it were a player I didn’t know instead of LC, I would agree with you, but having played with LC off and on a long time, it seems NAI. Why was it bad?

[Tangrowth]

It's been a long time since I played with MP. I do recall all you had to do back in the day was say the word "Randomize" and he would appear in the thread as if summoned by a wizard, full of righteous indignation, ready to smite people.

But that's probably not the case anymore.

DAY ONE IS IMPORTANT!!!

There, now I’ve gotten it out of my system.

[Tangrowth]

It's been a long time since I played with MP. I do recall all you had to do back in the day was say the word "Randomize" and he would appear in the thread as if summoned by a wizard, full of righteous indignation, ready to smite people.

But that's probably not the case anymore.

Those were the days. When he stabbed me in the back with his sharpest knife. How I long for that pain.

[Tangrowth]

I want people to understand that Epignosis is batting a thousand right now in 2020. If you are a civilian and you vote for me, you better win this game. Or else.

Mac's position is that I am refusing to interact with Dyslexicon because he is my teammate and for some unfathomable reason I "can't help" myself when it comes to this.

But my God, Epi, you failed to interact with Sloonei in the Game of Champions! Don't you see?

I had three mafia teammates. I interacted plenty with two of them. You can research those stats for yourself.

If you genuinely believe I am incapable of interacting with my mafia teammates, then

My gut says again that totally this is a town Epi post. It’s all preachy and sardonic, but there’s just enough an element of genuinely caring about having the game solved that I think would be harder to fake if he was scum in this position right now.

Also, dumb thread environment take incoming, but if Epi is scum right now there’s no way he lets himself get lynched Day 1. Thread momentum seems against him with about 24 hours to EOD. If he is scum, his scum mate hasn’t been around, and that would mean either me or LC. Doesn’t add up to me.

[Tangrowth]

Scum Epi controls the thread narrative. Town Epi is like a rogue vigilante. He hasn’t controlled it for one second here.

[Michelle]

I don't want you to take offense, but if I knew nothing about baseball, your explanation about the designated hitter would only confuse me more. American League? What is that? Are all the teams American? etc. Michelle's reaction to your explanation sounded like, "Okay, we can check off interacting with one another" to me.

As someone who knows very little about baseball I thought her explanation made enough sense Plus, I agree with SVS in general that Michelle seemed to be putting too much effort into understanding the n0 poll when it turned out it had no effect on the game. I didn't try to make an educated guess, I voted the option that nobody else voted for so I apparently had the wrong opinion, but who cares it doesn't matter. Michelle took it more seriously. To be fair she just came from LC/BR's game where night polls did stuff, but still the dedication to do wikipedia research or whatever felt silly.

Good to know is silly to search something you know nothing about.
You all are overreacting at my curiosity here.
And at least one is scum in this push for me.

[nutella]

Scum Epi controls the thread narrative. Town Epi is like a rogue vigilante. He hasn’t controlled it for one second here.

Okay not to contradict what I just said above but scum Epi in GOC absolutely did not control the narrative lol. He sat back and let mislynches happen without getting involved in much of anything.

[S~V~S]

And I didn't "tag along" on anything easily.

I voted my damn self and even said in my head I had S~V~S as Michelle's teammate.

Why

Yeah, I am kinda "why" about this, too.

When I answered your question about the DH since this is something I know, and feel very strongly about, Michelle acted like this was somehow sooper helpful information, when the host told us it was a flavor theme. My post was borderline OT banter and it gave me a chance to be pedantic, lol.

That was the extent of our interaction before I said I thought she seemed to be trying too hard.

If Epi thinks I, as a baddie in a format I am not comfortable with, would engage in fluffing with my teammates in thread, well, he don't know me at all do he? and I don't really know Michelles game, but from what people said about her in the Champs game, I gather she is a good player, is fluffing her teammates something she is known to do? It seems like a bizarre thing for baddies to do.

So yeah, not sure why he would think that.

Re Mac v Epi, I don't agree with everything Mac says on a quick skim, but I think he really believes it. So I feel good about him, between the two I am more wary of Epi.

Back to catch up.

I want to town read SVS for this train of thought despite not agreeing with it.

Personally, I think suspicions that are based on whether someone should know something or not are grasping at straws.

Why would you say that between the two you’re more wary of Epi? You had just said you town read Mac, so why would you need to choose between the two?

I was putting it in the context of Mac v Epi, as Mac was pushing the suspicion of Epi. Of the two, I feel better about Mac, even though I am not sure I agree with him. But I don't see bad Mac going hard after Epi day 1 with a bullshit case (and in this game, any case a baddie makes is a bullshit case). For one thing, I am not sure I buy his answer about why he felt she & I were teammates. It read to me like he was trying to set me up as a preemptive teammate of hers should she be lynched and flip bad. Plus the fact that Epi had to be pushed to answer the question three times (why he thought Michelle and I were teammates, once by nutella and twice by me) is also part of why I am wary of him. If plays into that same preemptive set up feel I got from him.

[Tangrowth]

I don't want you to take offense, but if I knew nothing about baseball, your explanation about the designated hitter would only confuse me more. American League? What is that? Are all the teams American? etc. Michelle's reaction to your explanation sounded like, "Okay, we can check off interacting with one another" to me.

I think this is reaching, but it jives as an explanation for the suspicion.

[Dyslexicon]

A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy

Michelle =p

Role cop cops roles, that's what I said. Even if I was lying about that or mistaken, why would that make me scum? And I have the deepest concern for your alignment. Trust and believe.

[Tangrowth]

I want people to understand that Epignosis is batting a thousand right now in 2020. If you are a civilian and you vote for me, you better win this game. Or else.

Mac's position is that I am refusing to interact with Dyslexicon because he is my teammate and for some unfathomable reason I "can't help" myself when it comes to this.

But my God, Epi, you failed to interact with Sloonei in the Game of Champions! Don't you see?

I had three mafia teammates. I interacted plenty with two of them. You can research those stats for yourself.

If you genuinely believe I am incapable of interacting with my mafia teammates, then

I don't care about this point anymore. Why did you vote for Michelle? Why did you vote for me? Your material here in this game is garbage. Fix that.

JaggedJimmyNutella. I like it.

[Tangrowth]

Oh cool, I'm caught up with my own post. That didn't take too long.

[Dyslexicon]

Hi, MP. I need to catch up later. I'm double gaming and "working".

[Long Con]

I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

[S~V~S]

In any case, at this time I am going to [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine. It could change. I will be back around later this evening.

I am still working so I will be back to work tomorrow, but will be home before EOD.

[Dyslexicon]

Oh cool, I'm caught up with my own post. That didn't take too long.

Now vote someone.

[S~V~S]

I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

Then don't. I felt it was more than that, but you do you

[Tangrowth]

GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

[Long Con]

I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

Then don't. I felt it was more than that, but you do you

I was thinking of it from Epi teaming you and her due to the banter. What did you think was 'more'? I will look back at your posts.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

[Tangrowth]

Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)

I have a couple of mechanics questions. I have not played very many games with a matrix like this one has, and I am not 100% on the terminology.

What is a "strongman"? And a "Role Doc", that is a role checker, right?

Ok, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p

A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.

A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy

How strongly do you believe in this suspicion?

[Tangrowth]

Nutella, if you are a civilian, and you think MacDougall made good points, then I don't know what hell to think about you whatsoever.

Good night.

As someone who saw right through you in GOC from spec chat, yeah, he made good points.

I have no knowledge about GOC, so can nutella and/or someone else enlighten me here?

I find it hard to believe that Epi has suddenly changed after one game. This reads like normal Epi to me for the most part. Tonally he reads town.

It's not important. Better you bring in your own unbiased read of Epi in this game alone. I'll take it into consideration.

Fair enough.

[Long Con]

Ok, right, you didn't like Michelle's calling out of "seem":

I need posts from everyone and now i remember Svs said she will come back after a time face but she didn't...

Anyway the day is long and I expect activity later because of time zones.

My family thing went longer than I expected, my stepmother and sister never shut up. My stepmom thinks they're gonna lock down NY kinda like Escape from NY but sick people not prisoners, it might have been funny if she were not so hysterical. Then my dog got needy and I just wound up doing other things.

If you read the last post I made, you will see why I felt you were a bit over the top. I felt like you were fluffing me, and trying too hard to appear helpful and town, and then you trying to take one work out of a sentence and make it into a suspicion also felt like trying too hard. I am a tone reader and play by how people made me feel, and you made me feel like you wer building up your post count without actually saying anything. But I don't really know your game. I just checked and see you were a civvie in Champs, I will try to make time to reread you there. You will note I have not voted for you yet. I made a one sentence observation and it turned into this,lol.

Other than me and my usage of the word "seem", has anything else in the thread gotten your eye?

[Tangrowth]

Scum Epi controls the thread narrative. Town Epi is like a rogue vigilante. He hasn’t controlled it for one second here.

Okay not to contradict what I just said above but scum Epi in GOC absolutely did not control the narrative lol. He sat back and let mislynches happen without getting involved in much of anything.

Good to know. Maybe I'll take a quick tour of his ISO later.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

[nutella]

GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

Have you ever played with him?

[Tangrowth]

Spoiler: show

And I didn't "tag along" on anything easily.

I voted my damn self and even said in my head I had S~V~S as Michelle's teammate.

Why

Yeah, I am kinda "why" about this, too.

When I answered your question about the DH since this is something I know, and feel very strongly about, Michelle acted like this was somehow sooper helpful information, when the host told us it was a flavor theme. My post was borderline OT banter and it gave me a chance to be pedantic, lol.

That was the extent of our interaction before I said I thought she seemed to be trying too hard.

If Epi thinks I, as a baddie in a format I am not comfortable with, would engage in fluffing with my teammates in thread, well, he don't know me at all do he? and I don't really know Michelles game, but from what people said about her in the Champs game, I gather she is a good player, is fluffing her teammates something she is known to do? It seems like a bizarre thing for baddies to do.

So yeah, not sure why he would think that.

Re Mac v Epi, I don't agree with everything Mac says on a quick skim, but I think he really believes it. So I feel good about him, between the two I am more wary of Epi.

Back to catch up.

I want to town read SVS for this train of thought despite not agreeing with it.

Personally, I think suspicions that are based on whether someone should know something or not are grasping at straws.

Why would you say that between the two you’re more wary of Epi? You had just said you town read Mac, so why would you need to choose between the two?

I was putting it in the context of Mac v Epi, as Mac was pushing the suspicion of Epi. Of the two, I feel better about Mac, even though I am not sure I agree with him. But I don't see bad Mac going hard after Epi day 1 with a bullshit case (and in this game, any case a baddie makes is a bullshit case). For one thing, I am not sure I buy his answer about why he felt she & I were teammates. It read to me like he was trying to set me up as a preemptive teammate of hers should she be lynched and flip bad. Plus the fact that Epi had to be pushed to answer the question three times (why he thought Michelle and I were teammates, once by nutella and twice by me) is also part of why I am wary of him. If plays into that same preemptive set up feel I got from him.

Oh, okay, I see how your brain was working there. Thanks for the reply.

[nutella]

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

No. You're scum with Michelle.

Spicy.


I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.

[Tangrowth]

Hi, MP. I need to catch up later. I'm double gaming and "working".

I feel you, this week is my spring break and I overloaded my schedule with fun things. It's pretty fucking awesome though.

[Dyslexicon]

Come at me, Michelle. I can read you.

[Michelle]

Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)

I have a couple of mechanics questions. I have not played very many games with a matrix like this one has, and I am not 100% on the terminology.

What is a "strongman"? And a "Role Doc", that is a role checker, right?

Ok, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p

A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.

A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.

So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh

You are bad Dizzy

How strongly do you believe in this suspicion?

Enough to vote

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

[Tangrowth]

I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

Then don't. I felt it was more than that, but you do you

I was thinking of it from Epi teaming you and her due to the banter. What did you think was 'more'? I will look back at your posts.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I actually like LC's post here.

[Tangrowth]

Oh shit, I passed 30,000 and I didn't even notice until now.

[Michelle]

Come at me, Michelle. I can read you.

You weren't so interested to read me before