Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 3]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

I strongly disagree. What has he done

I shouldn’t have to tell you this. It’s visible. Bad look.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My ability to make comprehensive points is neutered on my phone, so allI can give are quick take atm

[nutella]

Well okay Epi did do that dizzy post just now.

[Michelle]

Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

Welcome in my top scum slot Jay.

Wrong!

I am entering a mode of spam, and you would do well to interpret it fairly regardless of your perspectives of Dyslexicon. I'll be the judge.

I am willing to take full responsivity if I am wrong sir, but I doubt this for the reasons I stated.
Even the fact Dizzy backtracked and said I may be villager looked bad as timing and in the context of his Iso and the thread flow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey y'all I was having a Dominion Game Night and now it's 1:30 am and I'm a bit drunk, but I skimmed through and caught up. Lots of Epi-nutella-Dizzy stuff going on, and I skimmed that Mac post that nutella said was too efforty... nah, I don't really have a grip right now. Gonna get up to bat tomorrow with some carefully thought-out and scholarly analyses.

One of those posts that mentions the goings-on without doing anything with the goings-on. Lame

I'm not lynching Michelle for WARM-UPS banter. That's wack.

Yuck. This is not a civilian mindset. There's zero reason why "Warm-ups banter" should be off-limits.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

I like this post.

i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.

I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.

Taking note of this as LC's vote is currently stuck on my Dyslexicon face.

Reverted here, and it doesn't make sense --> LC's correction that Michelle was actually referring to S~V~S's perspective was obvious and should have no bearing on his perspective. Dubious.

I don't trust either of MP and LC.
I'm not caught up.....

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Enough is enough of this bullshit.

LC never talks like this.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have no immediate gripes with M Plus 7. I cannot read everything he's posted with time to process it deeply right now, but I can assess the general form and aesthetic. In his first game here in 90 years, he is off to the races, seems pointed and unafraid to engage, and looks the part.

[Tangrowth]

I'm sticking with my Dizzy vote. He sets MP and I up for suspicion based on us being the latest players to the thread, decides I'm bad on my first post, and later it's still "I don't trust either of MP and LC. I'm not caught up....."

This is a poor copy of Dizzy's normally top-quality town play.

I do find his reads to be too static, but I also am hoping he’ll grace us with his presence to update them.

[Tangrowth]

wow mac is really going hard on this theory

@MacDougall This is not too far from her saying you're "too efforty". You were too harsh on a tired drunk LC, and I think you owe me an apology.

What’s your read on Mac, LC?

Not great. He's really only put out a theory that literally starts with "Now imagine for a moment that Dyslexicon and Epignosis are partners..." and then shoehorns every post they make into that idea. If Dizzy is bad, then it looks worse for Mac because he's focusing on Epignosis, who I think is the less suspicious of the two.

I can see this, thanks for explaining.

[Michelle]

I'm sticking with my Dizzy vote. He sets MP and I up for suspicion based on us being the latest players to the thread, decides I'm bad on my first post, and later it's still "I don't trust either of MP and LC. I'm not caught up....."

This is a poor copy of Dizzy's normally top-quality town play.

I do find his reads to be too static, but I also am hoping he’ll grace us with his presence to update them.

Dizzy was replaced by Jay and Jay graces us with his presence.

[Tangrowth]

I'm here, I'm a civilian, and I'm cranky. I have 53 minutes. Stand by while I do it all.

I’ll miss playing with Dizzy, but this is a pretty fucking great consolation prize.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mac wrote an essay on Day 1 tying two players together to form a full mafia team with a flip from neither available to him, and his points are bad. This is junk. He's not incapable of this kind of hubris as a civilian; he is as capable of putting together trash reads against two quality civilian opponents (as Epi hypothetically would be and Dizzy is in a Mac mafia world).

"Imagine a world where they're partners" -- proceeds to paint an elaborate picture based upon nothing whatsoever. Crapola.

[Tangrowth]

On the plus side, Jay will be active, and I feel relatively confident in my ability to find Jay as town despite his incredible scum game.

[Michelle]

Mac wrote an essay on Day 1 tying two players together to form a full mafia team with a flip from neither available to him, and his points are bad. This is junk. He's not incapable of this kind of hubris as a civilian; he is as capable of putting together trash reads against two quality civilian opponents (as Epi hypothetically would be and Dizzy is in a Mac mafia world).

"Imagine a world where they're partners" -- proceeds to paint an elaborate picture based upon nothing whatsoever. Crapola.

What's your read on Mac based on that post?

[Tangrowth]

Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

I wholeheartedly agree.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Good morning.

GTH @everyone nominate one player you would day vig if you could.

civilian read on Michelle

It may look small, and perhaps it is. That's my soul read. I don't figure this sort of hunting tool even occurs to her if she is in the brain of a mafioso trying to mimic content generation at the onset of play.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mac wrote an essay on Day 1 tying two players together to form a full mafia team with a flip from neither available to him, and his points are bad. This is junk. He's not incapable of this kind of hubris as a civilian; he is as capable of putting together trash reads against two quality civilian opponents (as Epi hypothetically would be and Dizzy is in a Mac mafia world).

"Imagine a world where they're partners" -- proceeds to paint an elaborate picture based upon nothing whatsoever. Crapola.

What's your read on Mac based on that post?

diarrhea orange

[Epignosis]

Well okay Epi did do that dizzy post just now.

Y'all act like that was an obligation or something.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If your vote is on Dyslexicon right now, you have an obligation to assess my posts too, even in the limited time frame right now. Anyone who fails to meet that standard needs to be drawn and quartered.

[Tangrowth]

Mac wrote an essay on Day 1 tying two players together to form a full mafia team with a flip from neither available to him, and his points are bad. This is junk. He's not incapable of this kind of hubris as a civilian; he is as capable of putting together trash reads against two quality civilian opponents (as Epi hypothetically would be and Dizzy is in a Mac mafia world).

"Imagine a world where they're partners" -- proceeds to paint an elaborate picture based upon nothing whatsoever. Crapola.

I’m actually more bothered by the fact that he’s done nothing since than that, but your point is considered.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nanook's posts don't make me feel much of anything. They rarely seem to; it's a natural product of his style. It wouldn't be an inspired lynch.

[Michelle]

Mac wrote an essay on Day 1 tying two players together to form a full mafia team with a flip from neither available to him, and his points are bad. This is junk. He's not incapable of this kind of hubris as a civilian; he is as capable of putting together trash reads against two quality civilian opponents (as Epi hypothetically would be and Dizzy is in a Mac mafia world).

"Imagine a world where they're partners" -- proceeds to paint an elaborate picture based upon nothing whatsoever. Crapola.

What's your read on Mac based on that post?

diarrhea orange

you made me laugh. Thanks

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Like, Mac made some good points

no he didn't

[Tangrowth]

I want to lynch Mac. People should join me.

[Michelle]

Eod in 19 mins?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean, if you're paying attention, Nanook, you'll note that nutella is voting me because of something MacDougall said, and Mac is voting Dyslexicon.

Which means you're "sheeping?" Mac who isn't voting me.

Wild.

You're full of shit. I voted you for a confluence of reasons. I'm not "sheeping" Mac.

A confluence of reasons?

Name them.

Your posts. They bad.

I don't see the "confluence of reasons" you've advertised.

[nutella]

I mean, if you're paying attention, Nanook, you'll note that nutella is voting me because of something MacDougall said, and Mac is voting Dyslexicon.

Which means you're "sheeping?" Mac who isn't voting me.

Wild.

You're full of shit. I voted you for a confluence of reasons. I'm not "sheeping" Mac.

A confluence of reasons?

Name them.

Your posts. They bad.

I don't see the "confluence of reasons" you've advertised.

If you'd actually read before posting you'd see that I elaborated on what those reasons were.

[Tangrowth]

Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

Believe it or not, I have a lot more time on spring break during a coronavirus quarantine. Who knew?

Unless I’m mistaken, this post indicates that Epi is actively undermining Jay’s town read of Epi for being different from GOC.

This further indicates a town Epi IMO.

[Tangrowth]

Eod in 19 mins?

I believe 1 hour and 19 mins.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean, if you're paying attention, Nanook, you'll note that nutella is voting me because of something MacDougall said, and Mac is voting Dyslexicon.

Which means you're "sheeping?" Mac who isn't voting me.

Wild.

You're full of shit. I voted you for a confluence of reasons. I'm not "sheeping" Mac.

A confluence of reasons?

Name them.

Your posts. They bad.

I don't see the "confluence of reasons" you've advertised.

If you'd actually read before posting you'd see that I elaborated on what those reasons were.

Your indignance here is shit. Yuck.

I did read all of that, you provided next to nothing before you "elaborated". Context matters. You claimed a confluence of reasons and you didn't provide them until Epi made the demand.

[Tangrowth]

Jay and Epi need to survive Day 1. Anyone who wants to argue with me now should. They’re absolutely part of the town core right now, and if either gets lynched I will be furious, which means votes need to change.

[Tangrowth]

I actually don’t understand nutella’s insistence on Epi anymore myself.

[Michelle]

I want to lynch Mac. People should join me.

His absence may say something.
My read on him was town. But i would like from him to post more, and now I don't have a reason to defend my read.

[Michelle]

Eod in 19 mins?

I believe 1 hour and 19 mins.

ty

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have one grievance with S~V~S at a glance:

I don't see much direction in her posts apart from Michelle is my suspect; lynch Michelle. I think there's room for agenda in that sort of narrow play. A couple of posts struck me as wordier than necessary too in a way that doesn't really reflect natural verbosity.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Tell me why Long Con is a civilian.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

The tally already reflects this

[Tangrowth]

I want to lynch Mac. People should join me.

His absence may say something.
My read on him was town. But i would like from him to post more, and now I don't have a reason to defend my read.

He’s a much better town player than this. I town read his poop flinging in the moment, upon reflection earlier today I read it as NAI, and he’s continued to do all of jackshit since. I don’t get any sense at all that he’s trying to figure out alignments either, which means all he’s done so fling poo. That is more compatible with a scum Day 1 than a town one, considering the state of POE because I believe a lot of other players have town cleared themselves out of Day 1 lynch contention, including you now as well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"Dizzy just didn't seem like himself!"

Okay, motherfuckers. Here I am. Face the consequences if you can't adapt.

[Tangrowth]

I have one grievance with S~V~S at a glance:

I don't see much direction in her posts apart from Michelle is my suspect; lynch Michelle. I think there's room for agenda in that sort of narrow play. A couple of posts struck me as wordier than necessary too in a way that doesn't really reflect natural verbosity.

Doesn’t bother me, totally a hallmark of her townie play. I’m not really inspired by suspicion that way.

With that said, I would love to see what she’s thinking and engaging in other regards too though, and I do think she needs to show more willingness to develop other reads.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to lynch Mac. People should join me.

His absence may say something.
My read on him was town. But i would like from him to post more, and now I don't have a reason to defend my read.

He’s a much better town player than this. I town read his poop flinging in the moment, upon reflection earlier today I read it as NAI, and he’s continued to do all of jackshit since. I don’t get any sense at all that he’s trying to figure out alignments either, which means all he’s done so fling poo. That is more compatible with a scum Day 1 than a town one, considering the state of POE because I believe a lot of other players have town cleared themselves out of Day 1 lynch contention, including you now as well.

If there's one thing I'll give Mac a break for, it's sporadic involvement in the various dialogues of a game. He is very busy with his family.

[nutella]

Jay and Epi need to survive Day 1. Anyone who wants to argue with me now should. They’re absolutely part of the town core right now, and if either gets lynched I will be furious, which means votes need to change.

I still don't see any reason to townread Epi. I had some issues with the jaggedizzy slot but leaning town.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay and Epi need to survive Day 1. Anyone who wants to argue with me now should. They’re absolutely part of the town core right now, and if either gets lynched I will be furious, which means votes need to change.

I still don't see any reason to townread Epi. I had some issues with the jaggedizzy slot but leaning town.

In what way is he similar to the GOC? You liked Mac's points. Speak quickly.

[Tangrowth]

"Dizzy just didn't seem like himself!"

Okay, motherfuckers. Here I am. Face the consequences if you can't adapt.

I missed playing with you.

I’m 100% satisfied with calling you town for today. If you’re not town, I strongly believe you will provide contrary evidence eventually anyway. I see no cause for concern.

[Michelle]

"Dizzy just didn't seem like himself!"

Okay, motherfuckers. Here I am. Face the consequences if you can't adapt.

Looks like you need time. For you I will vote elsewhere.

And for science.[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

[nutella]

I mean, if you're paying attention, Nanook, you'll note that nutella is voting me because of something MacDougall said, and Mac is voting Dyslexicon.

Which means you're "sheeping?" Mac who isn't voting me.

Wild.

You're full of shit. I voted you for a confluence of reasons. I'm not "sheeping" Mac.

A confluence of reasons?

Name them.

Your posts. They bad.

I don't see the "confluence of reasons" you've advertised.

If you'd actually read before posting you'd see that I elaborated on what those reasons were.

Your indignance here is shit. Yuck.

I did read all of that, you provided next to nothing before you "elaborated". Context matters. You claimed a confluence of reasons and you didn't provide them until Epi made the demand.

I can't be indignant when you are calling stuff shit without reading context? Come on man

And yeah if I'm being honest my suspicion of Epi was a little fuzzy/gut-based before I took time to put together the posts that specifically pinged me. The Michelle vote was probably the biggest factor though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis
M Plus 7
Michelle

Nanook
nutella

MacDougall
S~V~S
Long Con

[Tangrowth]

I want to lynch Mac. People should join me.

His absence may say something.
My read on him was town. But i would like from him to post more, and now I don't have a reason to defend my read.

He’s a much better town player than this. I town read his poop flinging in the moment, upon reflection earlier today I read it as NAI, and he’s continued to do all of jackshit since. I don’t get any sense at all that he’s trying to figure out alignments either, which means all he’s done so fling poo. That is more compatible with a scum Day 1 than a town one, considering the state of POE because I believe a lot of other players have town cleared themselves out of Day 1 lynch contention, including you now as well.

If there's one thing I'll give Mac a break for, it's sporadic involvement in the various dialogues of a game. He is very busy with his family.

That’s good to know, and I do hope he returns before EOD so I can judge him for more.

[nutella]

I actually don’t understand nutella’s insistence on Epi anymore myself.

I have doubts but there isn't anyone else I feel bad enough about to vote for atm.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can't be indignant when you are calling stuff shit without reading context? Come on man

And yeah if I'm being honest my suspicion of Epi was a little fuzzy/gut-based before I took time to put together the posts that specifically pinged me. The Michelle vote was probably the biggest factor though.

I just told you that I did read it. And it wasn't good enough.

[Tangrowth]

Tell me why Long Con is a civilian.

My gut liked the posts he just made, but other than that I got nothing other than tone which is not telling me much. But I should ISO him. But I’m also on my phone.