JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:51 pm
Dizzy quoted it and just said "-10". How is that not supposed to look "gotcha"?
I'm not Dyslexicon. I told you about my accusation. I cannot speak for another human being.
Yes, and I brought up the concept saying "Dizzy latched onto as some 'gotcha' moment." How's that vaunted reading comprehension working for you? Or is that just something you do when you are Civ?
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:51 pmTHANK YOU for this, it's nice when they fall into your lap like this. "Absolving Michelle", eh? For someone who reads everything, I would think "I'm not lynching her for day 1 banter", followed by "I was thinking of it from Epi teaming you and her due to the banter. What did you think was 'more'? " to S~V~S, when she responded, followed by nutella actually thinking I was "on the Michelle train", followed by "it's slightly scummy-looking when framed like that, but I'm not hopping on the train over it"... all that solid reading, and you try to throw "Absolving through TMI" in my face?
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm accusing you of.
My wording may have been confusing. I don't mean that you absolved her of guilt and named her innocent. I meant that you absolved her
of that suspicion for what to me looked like no reason. And on that basis, there's room for TMI.
All that "fell in my lap" bravado is meaningless.
Ohhhh, your wording was confusing. Of course it wasn't a direct attempt to put things like "ABSOLVED MICHELLE" and "TMI ON MICHELLE" into the readers' heads. Nah. Just a little minor confusion.
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:51 pmOk. Dizzy's accusation was that Michelle said "you don't have any reason to think I'm scum", which is scummier looking than saying "I'm town". Sure. What Michelle actually said was "... looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me." which is not the same thing at all. Michelle was discussing the reason why S~V~S' supposed shade looked so weak to her. She wasn't TELLING S~V~S that there's no reason to think she's scum, she was ANALYZING her view on S~V~S' perspective.
My point here was that I thought this distinction was clear in the first place, and I find it hard to believe that it inspired an epiphany.
Not, apparently, to your predecessor. Dizzy was going with the TELLING angle in order to shade Michelle, when going with the ANALYZING angle delivers no shade. I think it was his main point against her, and BECAUSE Dizzy put it that way, I saw it that way, until I looked deeper. You have the luxury of having it all already out there, so never had to deal with the unclear distinction. You're welcome, and this is a reason I thought Dizzy was bad.
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:51 pmI'm town and you're not.

That has to count for something.
If you are town, then you are doing us both a disservice by refusing to communicate with me in an open manner. Consider one obvious point: you just hosted me in a GOC in which I had the ability to freely hunt as a mafioso. Until all of my team was dead, I played that game at half-JJJ pace. A mafioso in this game cannot freely hunt. I am playing at full JJJ pace. I am nothing like I was in your game just last week, and it reflects the breath of fresh air that is a civilian role.
How the fuck am I not being open? I'm being as clear and open as I possibly can about what I see you saying, and what it means to me. I honestly don't know what more I can say, I feel like I have laid it all out there, most things more than once.
You play the same way every time as a baddie? You have the wherewithal to self-analyze as a defense NOW, but not to pre-analyze the same behaviour to craft a "not-like-bad-JJJ" presence?
