Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 3]

[Long Con]

good chat

[Epignosis]

good chat

Eh?

[Long Con]

good chat

Eh?

Nah

[nutella]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Why

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Michelle is fine to kill today

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Eh, I was gonna do a thing but it’s too late in day. Not used to 48 hour days.

I have a red, everyone guess who it’s on

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it’s Michelle lemme know so I can get straight to interactive analysis

[Long Con]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Why

The thread was a doornail so I went back and went over the trauma. He's bad.

Spoiler: show

Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.

I was gone for 40 minutes. This is not roof-building, this is character assassination.

LC could just be away coincidentally. I don't really care. Zero points awarded regardless.

Honesty here, at least.

I just provided a wealth of reasons why I suspect you. You're not reading my posts.

Civilian JJJ doesn't need to grossly exaggerate to make a case. A wealth of reasons? More like pennies on the dollar.

That's not to say I'm reading LC's recent posts as town though. I really don't know what to make of them.

Some portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk

Yes I realize there's irony here

Would it have worked better if I gave straight reasons why your case was not good?

In theory yes. In practice, well I just changed my vote

Civilian JJJ would have stuck with his vote.

[Epignosis]

I’d probably kill MP if I thought he was a PR, tbh.

Not to channel jack but I’m not dying today.

I'm open to that if you give me a reason.

Wee woo wee woo

That's an ambulance you twit.

Didn't you ever play with cars as a child?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’d probably kill MP if I thought he was a PR, tbh.

Not to channel jack but I’m not dying today.

I'm open to that if you give me a reason.

Wee woo wee woo

That's an ambulance you twit.

Didn't you ever play with cars as a child?

Not really tbh. Just tonka trucks.

[Michelle]

Michelle is fine to kill today

No it's not!

[Michelle]

If it’s Michelle lemme know so I can get straight to interactive analysis

It's obviously not me. Your question is bad because he would use other words for a lock scum.

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Again? You sure lack imagination sir.

[Michelle]

Grats guys, you are doing again the same thing you did in the previous game with 3 villagers in a row. Be proud of it.
I get now why they gave up, you are too selfish to accept you are wrong.


Let's see my wagon:
Epi said he will give 33% in this game, he gives 5%. Ugly way of playing no matter AI.

Nanook was just sheeping one or another, i don't understand this. If he thinks his red peek solves the game he is plain wrong because mafia is a team and in this game distancing is the key. Unless everyone talks in the game. But you all are ok with players who are answering with one word at questions and admire this nonsense. If they are mafia, you have zero content to work with.

Jay is an easy poster so high activity is not AI and he's imagining tests and PoEs. Town had bad results from his contribution in the games we played together. I don't trust him no matter AI. He is a genius mafia, good for him. Idk why, but I was town reading him when he subbed in the game. Maybe because he had a nice energy. I am not sure about this. His so called test is a trap and he choose to pick up my answer to push me.
Logic, any mafia would say no. I said yes. So what? And then he has like a revelation and said I am guilty. Lame

Nutella pretends to know to read me but she can't. Or she don't want to. We talked too much already.

At least one of this 4 is wolf, imo.
But I may be wrong.
If every single one is villager, then this town have a problem and we will loose this game.

I don't want to post more, I am tired to defend myself and I am not playing for this. My vote stays on Jack, his approach was bad. His reads looked fabricated and Svs's push on me in day 1 was a tunnel a villager should not make.

I may not come back until Eod not because I give up but because this game is depressing.

Good bye.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Why

The thread was a doornail so I went back and went over the trauma. He's bad.

Spoiler: show

Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.

I was gone for 40 minutes. This is not roof-building, this is character assassination.

LC could just be away coincidentally. I don't really care. Zero points awarded regardless.

Honesty here, at least.

I just provided a wealth of reasons why I suspect you. You're not reading my posts.

Civilian JJJ doesn't need to grossly exaggerate to make a case. A wealth of reasons? More like pennies on the dollar.

That's not to say I'm reading LC's recent posts as town though. I really don't know what to make of them.

Some portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk

Yes I realize there's irony here

Would it have worked better if I gave straight reasons why your case was not good?

In theory yes. In practice, well I just changed my vote

Civilian JJJ would have stuck with his vote.

No. You can believe all that if that’s what you do. I’m not going to waste my time arguing about it again. The last point you made is the crux of what you aren’t getting.

I threw a lot of shit at you because I suspected you. Some of it was more important to me than the rest. What you call character assassination I call provocation. I’m an extremely annoying dick as a civilian and I piss people off on purpose to find the emotions underneath.

In your own infuriating Long Conian way, you showed me your emotion in that entire sarcastic diatribe.

And I moved my vote. As only civilian Jay does. I don’t tunnel. I take pride in that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it’s Michelle lemme know so I can get straight to interactive analysis

It's obviously not me. Your question is bad because he would use other words for a lock scum.

You make assertions that I don’t understand. What “other” words would Nanook use? Do you read his mind?

If he has a red and it isn’t you, I expect him to tell us that.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What if I told you my red was long con

Also I kinda think michelle is a villager tbh but I don't wanna say why (it isn't a check)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What if I told you my red was long con

Also I kinda think michelle is a villager tbh but I don't wanna say why (it isn't a check)

That would amuse me greatly

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gonna need a straightforward claim though

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What if I told you....

Let's do this lads and lasses

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My N0 was a now useless green on MP ftr

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My N0 was a now useless green on MP ftr

absolute balls

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I strongly considered claiming it was on nutella cause I feel that strongly they're town* but then I thought "no, that's bad."


*they are a mortal lock to flip red now that I've said this in public

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I guess it's too much to ask for two alive checks lmao

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It’s a two-for-one check anyway, because it should be quite clear I’m not LC’s teammate.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah, I figured after the way EOD happened you were probably teammates with Epi or town, so it seemed like kind of a waste to check you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I will begin my interactive dive soon. It feels good to have gotten a read right after a bit of a slump lately, even if I let it slide in the end.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I will begin my interactive dive soon. It feels good to have gotten a read right after a bit of a slump lately, even if I let it slide in the end.

I'd prefer if you held off on posting it until people have a chance to react, I generally like to see reactions to a red check before the interactive reads start.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can do that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Grats guys, you are doing again the same thing you did in the previous game with 3 villagers in a row. Be proud of it.
I get now why they gave up, you are too selfish to accept you are wrong.


Let's see my wagon:
Epi said he will give 33% in this game, he gives 5%. Ugly way of playing no matter AI.

Nanook was just sheeping one or another, i don't understand this. If he thinks his red peek solves the game he is plain wrong because mafia is a team and in this game distancing is the key. Unless everyone talks in the game. But you all are ok with players who are answering with one word at questions and admire this nonsense. If they are mafia, you have zero content to work with.

Jay is an easy poster so high activity is not AI and he's imagining tests and PoEs. Town had bad results from his contribution in the games we played together. I don't trust him no matter AI. He is a genius mafia, good for him. Idk why, but I was town reading him when he subbed in the game. Maybe because he had a nice energy. I am not sure about this. His so called test is a trap and he choose to pick up my answer to push me.
Logic, any mafia would say no. I said yes. So what? And then he has like a revelation and said I am guilty. Lame

Nutella pretends to know to read me but she can't. Or she don't want to. We talked too much already.

At least one of this 4 is wolf, imo.
But I may be wrong.
If every single one is villager, then this town have a problem and we will loose this game.

I don't want to post more, I am tired to defend myself and I am not playing for this. My vote stays on Jack, his approach was bad. His reads looked fabricated and Svs's push on me in day 1 was a tunnel a villager should not make.

I may not come back until Eod not because I give up but because this game is depressing.

Good bye.

Dislike this post as well. Townies can and do give up but bugging out for half the day when you're top wagon is more antispew than town frustration on average calculation.

Wording reads on Michelle are less solid than your average player because of english not being her first language but she talks a lot about "you" as in the town as in a group of players she isn't part of.

Maybe I'm grasping at straws. I'm just seeing a lot of small bad things with Michelle's posts and not a lot of good things.

I'm also doing that thing I do in every game where I want to townread players (ie just Michelle actually) for tilting at Jack windmills but I have to remind myself that wolves do this all the time. Like Epi last game. Wolves are perfectly happy to waste time pushing wagons that will never turn into lynches and will never result in "you pushed on this townie" accusations. Michelle does tend to suspect me incorrectly sometimes as town but her read on me is very static. "Jack's reads as of page five do not contain any real scumreads. Therefore, he is bad." But I did suspect players. I explained why I suspected them and then explained why I stopped suspecting them. Having no scumreads is a cozy place for a wolf to stay for a bit but not on their opening day. I don't feel like that's a very honest read, a read town Michelle hangs onto so hard.

[Jackofhearts2005]

In case it's unclear, I suspect Michelle. She's my top scumread after reading the first 6 or so pages and the last 5 or so pages.

I'm trying to look for reasons to townread her because she's not a player with a very forceful personality and she is a player I have correctly found as town before when others suspected her. I view one of my town responsibilities to be finding townies who might get mislynched. If I do nothing, Michelle is very likely the lynch. It's my responsibility to make sure she's not town and to defend her if she is.

Don't mistake this process as "Jack is going back and forth on his Michelle read."

[JaggedJimmyJay]

This is why Down With Ketchup is the one true way.

[nutella]

This is why Down With Ketchup is the one true way.

You can have both though!! I regularly post as Jack does, responding to things as I read while missing current thread information, but I still make every effort to read every post in the game so I don't miss anything.


Anyway [VOTE: lc] aubergine since it looks like nanook means it. Still think Michelle is extremely likely the other one.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No u right. If one has time for ketchup, then I encourage ketchup. I only discourage it when ketchup replaces *now* in a time crunch. Jack's ketchup is fine.

When I blandly scanned interactions before I dissociated Michelle and LC. I don't recall why. I'll have another look at errbody anyhow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also condiments suck

[Long Con]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Good fight, LC.

[Jackofhearts2005]

The main reason I have to associate LC with Michelle is his pretty quick turn around on her D1.

Or POE.

[Michelle]

LC posted my favorite gif, he deserves my vote too
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[Long Con]

Good fight, LC.

This is exciting

[Michelle]

The main reason I have to associate LC with Michelle is his pretty quick turn around on her D1.

Or POE.

Wrong as usual. Pocketing is a thing in mafia. Buddying a townie made me win games as scum even if my scum game it's not so good.
So LC being scum, why should I be with him?

Why are you town again? Why are bad my reasons I voted you for?

You say you scum read me from the first 5 pages. I don't believe this. No work behind, quotes nitpicking mistakes and you easy looking satisfied about your read and adding reasons, still keeping the idea you may be wrong but you should figure my slot and so on.
It's like you start with a preconception and keep it. Looks fake because I know I have posts in the game you can evaluate correct but you avoided them. This is not even frustrating as long as I see you scum.
If you are town, in that 5% of the possibilty I am wrong about you, I have no words because it's really sad.

[Michelle]

In case it's unclear, I suspect Michelle. She's my top scumread after reading the first 6 or so pages and the last 5 or so pages.

I'm trying to look for reasons to townread her because she's not a player with a very forceful personality and she is a player I have correctly found as town before when others suspected her. I view one of my town responsibilities to be finding townies who might get mislynched. If I do nothing, Michelle is very likely the lynch. It's my responsibility to make sure she's not town and to defend her if she is.

Don't mistake this process as "Jack is going back and forth on his Michelle read."

I forgot about the last 5 pages -_- good for you to read so much. Don't read more, for bad accusations these pages are enough.
You read the first to see where your slot was in day 1, you saw no heat and almost universally town read and relaxed you fabricated a scum read on me.
From the last pages it's obviously from the heat I took before leaving the thread my posts cannot be considered a constructive part of my play because I had to defend myself and this always looks bad. So, ergo, Michelle is your scum read.
Too easy fmpov.
You correctly read me? Yes, from time to time. You are responsive though for the ugliest mislynch I had. So spare me about your 'responsibility'.

[Michelle]

Grats guys, you are doing again the same thing you did in the previous game with 3 villagers in a row. Be proud of it.
I get now why they gave up, you are too selfish to accept you are wrong.


Let's see my wagon:
Epi said he will give 33% in this game, he gives 5%. Ugly way of playing no matter AI.

Nanook was just sheeping one or another, i don't understand this. If he thinks his red peek solves the game he is plain wrong because mafia is a team and in this game distancing is the key. Unless everyone talks in the game. But you all are ok with players who are answering with one word at questions and admire this nonsense. If they are mafia, you have zero content to work with.

Jay is an easy poster so high activity is not AI and he's imagining tests and PoEs. Town had bad results from his contribution in the games we played together. I don't trust him no matter AI. He is a genius mafia, good for him. Idk why, but I was town reading him when he subbed in the game. Maybe because he had a nice energy. I am not sure about this. His so called test is a trap and he choose to pick up my answer to push me.
Logic, any mafia would say no. I said yes. So what? And then he has like a revelation and said I am guilty. Lame

Nutella pretends to know to read me but she can't. Or she don't want to. We talked too much already.

At least one of this 4 is wolf, imo.
But I may be wrong.
If every single one is villager, then this town have a problem and we will loose this game.

I don't want to post more, I am tired to defend myself and I am not playing for this. My vote stays on Jack, his approach was bad. His reads looked fabricated and Svs's push on me in day 1 was a tunnel a villager should not make.

I may not come back until Eod not because I give up but because this game is depressing.

Good bye.

Dislike this post as well. Townies can and do give up but bugging out for half the day when you're top wagon is more antispew than town frustration on average calculation.

Wording reads on Michelle are less solid than your average player because of english not being her first language but she talks a lot about "you" as in the town as in a group of players she isn't part of.

Maybe I'm grasping at straws. I'm just seeing a lot of small bad things with Michelle's posts and not a lot of good things.

I'm also doing that thing I do in every game where I want to townread players (ie just Michelle actually) for tilting at Jack windmills but I have to remind myself that wolves do this all the time. Like Epi last game. Wolves are perfectly happy to waste time pushing wagons that will never turn into lynches and will never result in "you pushed on this townie" accusations. Michelle does tend to suspect me incorrectly sometimes as town but her read on me is very static. "Jack's reads as of page five do not contain any real scumreads. Therefore, he is bad." But I did suspect players. I explained why I suspected them and then explained why I stopped suspecting them. Having no scumreads is a cozy place for a wolf to stay for a bit but not on their opening day. I don't feel like that's a very honest read, a read town Michelle hangs onto so hard.

Bullshit sir, "you" as for the players I was interacting to and accused me, jumping all on me like I was a posting machine.

And this is way too wordy for you to be honest in this post.

[Michelle]

Probably doesn't kill MP:
Epignosis
Long Con

Not sure, nor is she, but possibly cleared by a cop hunt anyway:
nutella

Not sure period:
S~V~S

Don't see why they wouldn't kill MP:
Michelle
Nanook

if I were scum I wouldn't like to kill him personally. But i would let the NK for my scumpartener because I have yet little knowledge about everyone here.
On the other hand, him as veteran player is fear killed by every single player including you. Every sane mafia kills M+7 if he rands villager.

Your analysis is so wifom-y that it gives me goosebumbs.

Michelle didn't know how to answer the question in a straightforward way and ended the post by discrediting the foundation the idea rests upon.

What? I answered straightforward in other post and I said I would kill M7 if I were mafia. And the quoted post implies I wouldn't like to do this, but I would do it if needed.
The idea itself of this test is wrong because there is never a mafia admitting this. Mafia are cowards and so this test is like 'isn't it you would never do this"? And a chorus of hypocrites "no, we?, never!" mixed of townies and mafia everyone trying to look good.
Everyone from the town who scum reads me based on this 'test' will have my special thanks endgame. Because it's a sample of wifom in it's purest form.

[Michelle]

What's your POE pool Michelle?

all the Mac wagon is suspicious for me.

I should read all the thread to be sure for this but I skipped few pages.

You don't say.

Say what?

[Michelle]

If it’s Michelle lemme know so I can get straight to interactive analysis

It's obviously not me. Your question is bad because he would use other words for a lock scum.

You make assertions that I don’t understand. What “other” words would Nanook use? Do you read his mind?

If he has a red and it isn’t you, I expect him to tell us that.

I am not in his head, I used a logic reasoning. Other words would mean something to imply the thread suspicion is real. Instead, he mentioned a red peek.
My mind works pretty well but I am bad at explaining my thoughts in english, actually I would like to see you playing in other language to see if you are as brave as in english

[Michelle]

10:30 pm at me. I will go to sleep and probably not come back at Eod.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If it’s Michelle lemme know so I can get straight to interactive analysis

It's obviously not me. Your question is bad because he would use other words for a lock scum.

You make assertions that I don’t understand. What “other” words would Nanook use? Do you read his mind?

If he has a red and it isn’t you, I expect him to tell us that.

I am not in his head, I used a logic reasoning. Other words would mean something to imply the thread suspicion is real. Instead, he mentioned a red peek.
My mind works pretty well but I am bad at explaining my thoughts in english, actually I would like to see you playing in other language to see if you are as brave as in english

I certainly don't fault you for the language barrier, and I appreciate the effort you give to communicate. I know you do the best you can there. Generally I think we understand you well as it is, so you do well in that regard.

I try my best to assess the points you make instead of merely the words you use. Sometimes there may be overlap. All one can do is ask questions.

[Long Con]

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

So, whaddya think? nutella and JJJ jumped right on it. Got'em?