Assassin's Creed Mafia (OVER!)

[ts account]

oh ok. fair enough

YAY YOU FINALLY THINK I'M TOWN it only took us getting to lylo

To be fair, your wolf game is so good, you could have been in wolf range this entire time. I was just being cautious!

[ts account]

I don't have a question, just an observation:

If you're a civilian that will lose you the game. Struggle to believe you'd entertain something so petulant.

Yes, scum is slightly more likely to say this here, I believe.

ts account frames this read as a general Principle of Maifa.

Why?

As someone who blows their top a lot, I still have never threatened to lynch myself in lylo as town. Winning the game is more important than salty satisfaction. I do not believe Epignosis would stray from that principle, if they have a long history with mafia.

When asked to expand, it is an answer specific to the player called Epignosis.

It is funny that you say I frame it as a "Principle", because "principle" is the exact word I used in the second post. I am not scum.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

By TH interactions, I have cleared Long Con, Sloonei, and TonyStarkPrime. There is only room for one more.

Well, I am town, so you will have to go back to the drawing board.
For the sake of simplicity I will assume you and nutella are town, because not being able to vote a wolf would be unbelievably stupid.
Out of those three, Sloonei is likely clear for saving us from parity, and I agree that Long Con is likely town now that three of the wolves seem to be off wagon. I would lean towards TSP in that group.

You’ll have to sell me on Tony. I am listening.

[ts account]

I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.

does a wolf say this about their partner?

Does a wolf bring up a team of four?

Clearly, the answer to that is no.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.

does a wolf say this about their partner?

That was probably my least favorite post of all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.

does a wolf say this about their partner?

Does a wolf bring up a team of four?

Clearly, the answer to that is no.

Why not?

[Sloonei]

In the night, @Dragomir dies! He was:

Altair

Eagle Vision: Can see anyone that targets him and/or a player of his choice.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

funnygurl claims to have watched drago targeting mac Night 1. I have no trouble believing that Drago would want to watch Mac Night 1 (though this would imply we have two watchers active on the same night. I'm not familiar enough with Nanook games to say whether or not that's viable).

Gonna look at ted and mac's Day 2 interactions to see if I can find anything suggesting they shared BTSC.

[Epignosis]

Lynch my ass and see. Go on.

A bad sentiment to have in lylo.

Oh? Go on.

[Epignosis]

We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.

It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.

yeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpov

don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me

It doesn't disprove my claim.

[ts account]

Why not?

The flipped wolf considered teams of three. I know I am town, and considered the team of four. It is a joke to some degree, of course, but given nobody had mentioned wolf team size beforehand, it is an interesting case study.

[ts account]

As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.

[Epignosis]

As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.

Am I outed though?

[ts account]

As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.

Am I outed though?

From what I understand, funnygurl has mechanical information saying you visited somebody when you claim you didn't. Is this not the case?

[Epignosis]

As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.

Am I outed though?

From what I understand, funnygurl has mechanical information saying you visited somebody when you claim you didn't. Is this not the case?

And I have mechanical information saying she's lying. Why believe her over me?

[Funnygurl555]

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We have a long day available, and remember that with LyLo hammer voting eyven a singe errant civilian vote threatens to ruin the game.

It’s a team of three. Let’s find them all while nutella and I can be here for you.

yeah that's why i'm holstering my vote even though epi's gotta be a wolf fmpov

don't even think my claim was that useful given y'all gave sloonei the killing ability and that alone disproves epi's claim, but i hope it helps with y'all reading me

It doesn't disprove my claim.

[Epignosis]

I didn't target anybody Night 1. I don't know what else to say.

[ts account]

And I have mechanical information saying she's lying. Why believe her over me?

She has been townier than you.

[Funnygurl555]

I didn't target anybody Night 1. I don't know what else to say.

[Sloonei]

As for a case on TSP: I do not have one, but I believe me, sloonei, and funnygurl are lock town, with long con close behind. I would shotgun Epi and speedchuck here, as epignosis is outed and speedchuck does not look good with turnip head scum flip, then re-evaluate on interactions afterwards.

The voices from the sky tell us we have 4 civilian slots and 3 mafia slots left, not counting themselves.

So far you've got:

CIVILIANS
ts account
funnygurl
Sloonei
Long Con

MAFIA
Epignosis
speedchuck

UNDECIDED
TonyStarkPrime

Your POE would suggest that Tony must be bad. You may need to make that case.

[Epignosis]

And I have mechanical information saying she's lying. Why believe her over me?

She has been townier than you.

Okay. Enjoy.

[speedchuck]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

[Sloonei]

Epi is right when he says my shot going unblocked doesn't negate his claim:

my th kill was not a role ability, but a shot from an item. therefore it is possible that I could have been roleblocked last night.
I still think we should lynch epi.

I am still voting for him without this as evidence.

[Epignosis]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

lolcatting?

What does that even mean?

[speedchuck]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

lolcatting?

What does that even mean?

obv!scumming.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

[ts account]

I do not know for sure who the last mafia between TSP and Long Con is. I may be focusing too hard on the self vote, and not hard enough on the interactions between speedchuck/long con/turnip head. I do not believe I need to make a case on TSP, either. I would rather focus on the mechanical dichotomy first, as we are meant to do.

JJJ: It occurs to me that you have me on the scum team solely due to interactions with Turnip Head. I do not believe I fit on your proposed team due to interactions with the other proposed wolves. Perhaps you should re-evaluate me, and not simply focus on the solitary interaction.

[Epignosis]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

lolcatting?

What does that even mean?

obv!scumming.

No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.

[ts account]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.

It is like you don't even want to win.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do not know for sure who the last mafia between TSP and Long Con is. I may be focusing too hard on the self vote, and not hard enough on the interactions between speedchuck/long con/turnip head. I do not believe I need to make a case on TSP, either. I would rather focus on the mechanical dichotomy first, as we are meant to do.

JJJ: It occurs to me that you have me on the scum team solely due to interactions with Turnip Head. I do not believe I fit on your proposed team due to interactions with the other proposed wolves. Perhaps you should re-evaluate me, and not simply focus on the solitary interaction.

Indeed, I will have to do such a dig when I can. I will need help. Maybe you can help.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.

My vote hasn’t been on you for 40 minutes

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.

I'm a dummy.

I would lynch Funnygirl for lying about me and LC for trying to hammer me.

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, who are Funnygurl’s teammates?

Take your vote off me and then we'll talk.

I'm a dummy.

I would lynch Funnygirl for lying about me and LC for trying to hammer me.

I'm a dummy again.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Very well.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] why did you try to hammer Epignosis?

[Epignosis]

I'd lynch TonyStarkPrime.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.

[Epignosis]

I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.

Can we lynch HIM Uncle Jay?

[ts account]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

[Epignosis]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

I most certainly am not anything.

[speedchuck]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

lolcatting?

What does that even mean?

obv!scumming.

No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.

Why claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?

[speedchuck]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

This argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.

[Epignosis]

Epi's practically lolcatting.

I'm more concerned with his claim. Why fake it? Why even make it in the first place, especially to lie about it and risk it being countered?

lolcatting?

What does that even mean?

obv!scumming.

No. I'm a civilian who is getting fucked because I got a shitty role that doesn't make any sense and nobody believes it.

Why claim it in the first place? Why is your role towny rather than scummy? Why are your target(s) towny rather than scummy?

I said this already.

I'm not going back and quoting it.

I am a civilian because my role says I am.

I don't understand the fourth question. I had one target. I talked about Sloonei Day 2.

[Epignosis]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

This argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.

What's funny about it?

[speedchuck]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

This argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.

What's funny about it?

In essence it boils down to "welp, we haven't lost yet even with throwing votes everywhere. Guess this works."

I've used the reasoning before. Lylo is funny like that.

[speedchuck]

Explaining it might kill the joke. I find it a funny observation.

[Epignosis]

Oh, judging by vote count, if Epignosis is town, then Long Con and Sloonei both need to be mafia, otherwise mafia would just hammer and win. So Epignosis is definitely outed wolf.

This argument is hilarious but I kinda agree with it.

What's funny about it?

In essence it boils down to "welp, we haven't lost yet even with throwing votes everywhere. Guess this works."

I've used the reasoning before. Lylo is funny like that.

What are you suspicious?

[Epignosis]

suspicions, shit.

[Epignosis]

YOUR Jesus.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hammer is five, not four. LC and Sloonei doesn’t make this confirmed

[ts account]

Hammer is five, not four. LC and Sloonei doesn’t make this confirmed

There are currently three votes. If only one of LC/Sloonei is mafia, they can still hammer. Both of them need to be mafia for it to not be a hammer.