Assassin's Creed Mafia (OVER!)

[TonyStarkPrime]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

[Long Con]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

[TonyStarkPrime]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

He wouldn’t be better to kill he has me as a townread

[TonyStarkPrime]

Though additional thought: with two scum last night if it was me and speed and we both had additional kills we were maxing out at two — I wouldn’t have had an opportunity to use my power, so this is all moot

[Long Con]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

He wouldn’t be better to kill he has me as a townread

He'd be a better kill because he is a town read. You'd want to keep me around for lynch bait.

[Long Con]

Though additional thought: with two scum last night if it was me and speed and we both had additional kills we were maxing out at two — I wouldn’t have had an opportunity to use my power, so this is all moot

What's "maxing out"?

[Sloonei]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

Funnygurl had already claimed as Not Desmond. Speedchuck was his partner and was already (I assume) targeting ts account for a kill. That leaves you and me.

[TonyStarkPrime]

LOL why? Especially when it makes no sense by the game not being over?

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

He wouldn’t be better to kill he has me as a townread

He'd be a better kill because he is a town read. You'd want to keep me around for lynch bait.

lynch bait oo ha ha

[TonyStarkPrime]

Though additional thought: with two scum last night if it was me and speed and we both had additional kills we were maxing out at two — I wouldn’t have had an opportunity to use my power, so this is all moot

What's "maxing out"?

One of us would have had to take the mafia kill, right?

[Long Con]

I think you are misunderstanding me.

If Tony is bad and his role is that he can and must kill Desmond, then there’s a good chance he can figure out that it’s you by the time last night roles around. That being the case he would have shot you without hesitation. If that happens there are four deaths and I am the only civilian left alive, so the game is over.

So if you believe that Tony’s role is in fact designed specifically to kill you, and that he is mafia, then you should be dead. The game would be over.

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

He wouldn’t be better to kill he has me as a townread

He'd be a better kill because he is a town read. You'd want to keep me around for lynch bait.

lynch bait oo ha ha

Is that not a cool expression these days? I mean you would kill the townread guy and leave the guy who has more suspicion.

[Sloonei]

Though additional thought: with two scum last night if it was me and speed and we both had additional kills we were maxing out at two — I wouldn’t have had an opportunity to use my power, so this is all moot

What's "maxing out"?

One of us would have had to take the mafia kill, right?

In my experience the mafia team kill does not prevent a player from also carrying out their role ability, but idk how nanook would handle it.

[Long Con]

Though additional thought: with two scum last night if it was me and speed and we both had additional kills we were maxing out at two — I wouldn’t have had an opportunity to use my power, so this is all moot

What's "maxing out"?

One of us would have had to take the mafia kill, right?

It depends if Nanook makes it a choice, or allows individual abilities, plus choose someone to make the team kill. That's how I ran the Champions Game.

[Sloonei]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

[Long Con]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

I don't get to know a role. I get to gain a temporary power.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s an additional problem here

[Sloonei]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

[Sloonei]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

I don't get to know a role. I get to gain a temporary power.

So what did you do with his power?

[Long Con]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh. Uses Mikey’s power. Finds an assassin.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

There’s a big LC says there

[Sloonei]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

You have both reacted as though the other is being truthful about their role. It’s weird.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There were a lot more people around to target last night than there are right now.

They had all claimed only you and Sloonei hadn’t?

Right, fair enough. Then you targeted Sloonei. He's the better one to kill anyway.

He wouldn’t be better to kill he has me as a townread

He'd be a better kill because he is a town read. You'd want to keep me around for lynch bait.

lynch bait oo ha ha

Is that not a cool expression these days? I mean you would kill the townread guy and leave the guy who has more suspicion.

I just always think of finding Nemo whenever anyone says it

[Long Con]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

There’s a big LC says there

I think we got out of conversational alignment here.

[Long Con]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

You have both reacted as though the other is being truthful about their role. It’s weird.

Not really...? I said yesterday that Tony was lying about his role, and what I thought the role probably is. Then today he confirmed what I thought, and the results of the night (me not dead) helps me believe that.

[Long Con]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

I don't get to know a role. I get to gain a temporary power.

So what did you do with his power?

I found out ts account is not an assassin.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

LC says D2 and he only would have gotten power info, which isn’t helpful

In this scenario I would assume he’s lying about his role.

No, Tony says Mafia are honest about their roles, so that doesn't makes sense.

You have both reacted as though the other is being truthful about their role. It’s weird.

If I assume LC’s telling the truth and find a contradiction, things become easier. LC has been calling me a liar all day so I don’t know why you think he thinks I’m being truthful

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con targeted Mikey Night 2. Mikey likely got killed by a role that needs to know his character in order to kill him Night 3.

I don't get to know a role. I get to gain a temporary power.

So what did you do with his power?

I found out ts account is not an assassin.

false

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wait FG’s character might be an assassin. Wikipedia is unclear

[TonyStarkPrime]

Then you kill TS account normal kill because?

[Sloonei]

I found out ts account is not an assassin.

ts account flips:

Layla

Cutting Edge Researcher: Every night you can focus your considerable researching ability on one player and, if they’re an Ancient Assassin you’ll learn their character.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

There are currently 3 players alive, so hammer is at 2. There is a no vote option today, no TK is not an option. Day will end by April 14, 12pm EDT if there's no hammer.

"Layla Hassan (born 1984) is a member of the Assassin Brotherhood."

[Sloonei]

assassin sisterhood

[Long Con]

maybe only certain roles are designated as Assassins for game purposes?

[Long Con]

He's a Researcher here.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think the word “ancient” is doing some work here

[Long Con]

If he were an Assassin, I would have said he's an Assassin. There's no gain for me to lie about this.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If he were an Assassin, I would have said he's an Assassin. There's no gain for me to lie about this.

Why’d you target Mikey?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I found out ts account is not an assassin.

ts account flips:

Layla

Cutting Edge Researcher: Every night you can focus your considerable researching ability on one player and, if they’re an Ancient Assassin you’ll learn their character.

You are a Righteous Warrior and win when all the Heathenous Spies have been eliminated.

There are currently 3 players alive, so hammer is at 2. There is a no vote option today, no TK is not an option. Day will end by April 14, 12pm EDT if there's no hammer.

"Layla Hassan (born 1984) is a member of the Assassin Brotherhood."

born 1984 hardly classifies someone as an ancient assassin.

[Long Con]

If he were an Assassin, I would have said he's an Assassin. There's no gain for me to lie about this.

Why’d you target Mikey?

Pretty random choice. I don't really know what it means to be an Assassin or not.

[Sloonei]

1984 BC!

[TonyStarkPrime]

1984 BC!

No

[Long Con]

Yes!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ugh we missed something

[TonyStarkPrime]

LC when do you find out the power of the person you target

[Sloonei]

In truth I skipped over the word “ancient” in layla’s role card. I was more focused on the distinction between “Assassins” and “Templars” in speedchuck’s role.

[Long Con]

LC when do you find out the power of the person you target

End of the day, after the lynch. I had up until the lynch to choose.

[Long Con]

Ugh we missed something

[Long Con]

Guys, you wanna take a break? I want to do some chores, etc, but I want to be here for the final lynch debate. Time out?

[Long Con]

We have 72 hours.

[Sloonei]

Guys, you wanna take a break? I want to do some chores, etc, but I want to be here for the final lynch debate. Time out?

I’m not voting for a long time. I need to review all of the interactions you guys have had with speedchuck and epi and th.