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[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

No my Tony read is a real thing

[Hyena]

Ties are bad and I will not let there be a tie at EOD fwiw

Good. <3 That's why I like making tied wagons.

[nutella]

Poison's probably gonna get replaced tho

[Long Con]

SEVEN pings, I sure am popular

Get in line.

[nutella]

No reason to kill the slot just for not showing up, he probably didnt know it started, and replacements happen when needed so I will just give it time. Besides if we want to angleshoot, there's the argument that if he had a scum team he'd be more likely prodded to join the thread.

[Long Con]

Nanook, Tony, nutella, based on your own role card, what alignment do you think Alex Jones would have?

Why does this feel like angle shooting

Probably cause it is tbh

Explain, I don't understand.

[nutella]

Hi I'm nutella and I hate no-poster policy lynches

[Long Con]

That was me calling a poison vote to be ear

[Master Radishes]

Hi I'm nutella and I hate no-poster policy lynches

Hi everyone, my name is MR, and it's been three years since I policy lynched a no poster.

[nutella]

Like come on guys, that slot is probabilistically more likely town than not, whereas we have thread content to analyze for all other slots that may help us determine that someone has more likelihood to be scum. Not to get mathy about it but it's just all around a dumb thing to do to lynch that slot. Allow me to say it -- it's -EV.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Poison's probably gonna get replaced tho

I’m still pro-killing lurkers

[nutella]

Poison's probably gonna get replaced tho

I’m still pro-killing lurkers

"Lurker" implies something different from "literally has not seen that the game started" which is what I would guess is the case here.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

urge to policy TK Nutella increases

[Master Radishes]

Like come on guys, that slot is probabilistically more likely town than not, whereas we have thread content to analyze for all other slots that may help us determine that someone has more likelihood to be scum. Not to get mathy about it but it's just all around a dumb thing to do to lynch that slot. Allow me to say it -- it's -EV.

How are you with odds, Ms Mathy?

As in: what are the odds one of PC's voters is scum?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Poison's probably gonna get replaced tho

I’m still pro-killing lurkers

"Lurker" implies something different from "literally has not seen that the game started" which is what I would guess is the case here.

I see no meaningful distinction and I’m not interested in arguing the semantics of what does and doesn’t constitute a lurker vs an absentee vs a low poster.

[nutella]

Like come on guys, that slot is probabilistically more likely town than not, whereas we have thread content to analyze for all other slots that may help us determine that someone has more likelihood to be scum. Not to get mathy about it but it's just all around a dumb thing to do to lynch that slot. Allow me to say it -- it's -EV.

How are you with odds, Ms Mathy?

As in: what are the odds one of PC's voters is scum?

I don't even know how many scum there are, so I couldn't tell you.

[Hyena]

Like come on guys, that slot is probabilistically more likely town than not, whereas we have thread content to analyze for all other slots that may help us determine that someone has more likelihood to be scum. Not to get mathy about it but it's just all around a dumb thing to do to lynch that slot. Allow me to say it -- it's -EV.

How are you with odds, Ms Mathy?

As in: what are the odds one of PC's voters is scum?

I don't even know how many scum there are, so I couldn't tell you.

I'm betting on three, so let's work with that for now. :P If I'm wrong, it's most likely four.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

15 player game that isn’t my design...probably 3 scum. Maybe an Indy given syndicate’s love of indies.

[Master Radishes]

Like come on guys, that slot is probabilistically more likely town than not, whereas we have thread content to analyze for all other slots that may help us determine that someone has more likelihood to be scum. Not to get mathy about it but it's just all around a dumb thing to do to lynch that slot. Allow me to say it -- it's -EV.

How are you with odds, Ms Mathy?

As in: what are the odds one of PC's voters is scum?

I don't even know how many scum there are, so I couldn't tell you.

I didn't expect a literal answer. I just meant that it would be a scummy thing do to hop on a 0 poster to 'prompt' them, if they didn't know where else to safely land right now.

[speedchuck]

Also, my early scum read of MP was not totally a joke. I retracted it, but it did actually come back as his later posts felt wrong/forced somehow. His town meta can look beep-boopy but he's seemed a bit too far in that extreme so far and if he doesn't start doing more I'd be happy with lynching him.

Same

[speedchuck]

Ties are bad and I will not let there be a tie at EOD fwiw

Why would you say something like that??

[nutella]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

That problem doesn't exist when replacements exist though. We could get a Sloonei in here.

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

I really don't like an AFK player being ahead in the polls with over eight hours to go. We even have at least one replacement, guys. You're either wasting the day or hiding behind an easy vote.

[speedchuck]

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

I dislike this, I dislike it immensely.

[Master Radishes]

I've never seen a Speedchuck this active. I like it.

[Hyena]

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

I really don't like an AFK player being ahead in the polls with over eight hours to go. We even have at least one replacement, guys. You're either wasting the day or hiding behind an easy vote.

It's creating chatter, so I don't feel like we're wasting the day by having this wagon on Poison. :P

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ties are bad and I will not let there be a tie at EOD fwiw

Why would you say something like that??

Cause y’all have a tie fetish around here and not the fun kind

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

That problem doesn't exist when replacements exist though. We could get a Sloonei in here.

It still exists—that slot will have a day less to read them on than anyone else, and replacing into a vacant scum slot is actually a bit of an advantage

[Hyena]

Ties are bad and I will not let there be a tie at EOD fwiw

Why would you say something like that??

Cause y’all have a tie fetish around here and not the fun kind

Oh, so tying wagons is not just a me thing? o: I thought that was a thing I uniquely liked!

[Hyena]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

That problem doesn't exist when replacements exist though. We could get a Sloonei in here.

It still exists—that slot will have a day less to read them on than anyone else, and replacing into a vacant scum slot is actually a bit of an advantage

Look at G8 in MU Champs last year if you want an example. Nanook and I were scum and both of our partners ended up getting replaced, which delayed people's reads on them. :P

[Hyena]

Also, I'm getting the vibe that Speedchuck and Nutella are NOT mafia together in spite of both of them being against going for lurkers. If Poison, or their slot, ever flip mafia though, I'd feel inclined to call one of them scum.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

I think his exhaustion is more likely due to rolling mafia than anything else. He says he's not as interested and doesn't know why he signed up, which in my experience is more of a wolf tell than a town one.

He also threw his vote away one someone I'm not sure has posted.

You should be sure, because I said the person hasn't posted in the same post where I made the vote.

[Hyena]

Also, I'm getting the vibe that Speedchuck and Nutella are NOT mafia together in spite of both of them being against going for lurkers. If Poison, or their slot, ever flip mafia though, I'd feel inclined to call one of them scum.

Nutella and MR are also probably not together. I'm basing that read on the MR post to Nutella asking the rhetorical question about odds and math.

[Hyena]

I've never seen a Speedchuck this active. I like it.

Hmm. Does MR ever post this if Speedchuck is their partner?

Right now, I want to say that there is never more than one scum inside {Speedchuck, MR, Nutella}. This is a group I think I can ride with for now.

[nutella]

Here's where I'm at

Long Con
Master Radishes
112
Hyena
juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
sig
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Poison Chan
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime
M Plus 7

Damn I forgot Wilgy was even in the game, lol. Also had a hard time placing Jack as he hasn't said much of substance yet. Keeping an eye out for him.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine I feel more secure in this than in a Tony vote atm.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Someone sell me on TSP cuz I haven't seen anything more than the usual TSP.

[nutella]

Speed should probably be higher than Jack lol.

[speedchuck]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

That problem doesn't exist when replacements exist though. We could get a Sloonei in here.

It still exists—that slot will have a day less to read them on than anyone else, and replacing into a vacant scum slot is actually a bit of an advantage

Then provide an opportunity for a vig to handle it.

If we lynch the slot, we'll be going in blind, AND have one less day of interactions w/ the dead to work with.

I know this is just mechanical ideal-play stuff and doesn't have too much to do with alignment, but I'd like to see who everyone would lynch in the ACTIVE playerbase. For the sake of reads and such.

At the very least, who would you lynch, if not for lurkers? Who do you suspect?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

No reason to kill the slot just for not showing up, he probably didnt know it started, and replacements happen when needed so I will just give it time. Besides if we want to angleshoot, there's the argument that if he had a scum team he'd be more likely prodded to join the thread.

Agree.

Need to find somewhere else to place my vote now.

[Hyena]

Here's where I'm at

Long Con
Master Radishes
112
Hyena
juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
sig
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Poison Chan
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime
M Plus 7

Damn I forgot Wilgy was even in the game, lol. Also had a hard time placing Jack as he hasn't said much of substance yet. Keeping an eye out for him.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine I feel more secure in this than in a Tony vote atm.

Hey, you beat me to it, lol.

I'll support you and Speed here.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

[Hyena]

Here's where I'm at

Long Con
Master Radishes
112
Hyena
juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
sig
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Poison Chan
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime
M Plus 7

Damn I forgot Wilgy was even in the game, lol. Also had a hard time placing Jack as he hasn't said much of substance yet. Keeping an eye out for him.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine I feel more secure in this than in a Tony vote atm.

Hey, you beat me to it, lol.

I'll support you and Speed here.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

Just to warn you though, I may hop on Tony's wagon if the opportunity to make it a strong secondary wagon comes up.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Actually I just need the energy to get up from the couch and go to my PC ake some quotes, cuz I already know who I wanna vote for.

[speedchuck]

Actually I just need the energy to get up from the couch and go to my PC ake some quotes, cuz I already know who I wanna vote for.

vote first quote later? :P

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Did Nanook vote for me?

Yes, Nanook voted for you, and he still is!

Extra ugly, due to non-call in the thread.

I want to townread LC for not noticing a vote on him.

Either that or he's wolf/wolf with Nook.

"I want to townread LC".

Then do it. Townread him. Or not.

I don’t really feel like I know his game as either alignment tbh but I do really dislike his Jules push. It’s just...bad. Pushing people for how they normally play is one of my pet peeves though so idk.

You just watched me play a very distinctive scumgame sir. Is it my town game you're missing?

read: compare this to my other scum game which is nothing like this one

You are being very uncharitable sir. I'll have you know my town games are nothing like this one either.

But i wanted to know what nanook thought of that

Tony and Nanook might be mafia partners. +112, that might be the scum team right there.

Dang you got us. Where’s the resign button

I wasn't very serious about the LC/Nook thing, but actually this post pings me. I feel the 'haha guess you got me' thing is such a scum thing to say here.

"I wasn't serious"

"this post actually pings me"

Then uses a superlative in the next post, to make it sound like he's sure LC is bad.

I wonder which over-discusser of 'spew' is the wolf?

Love this thought. Another townie point for LC.



Caveat: I've read LC wrong every game I've played with him.

Caveat: I'm full of shit.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

It's okay to be unsure about someone's alignment, but go ahead and say you are unsure. This feel like playing both sides at once.

[speedchuck]

nice

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The bullet point version of why killing an absentee D1 is that you get rid of a slot that will by necessity be more difficult to read than other slots, combined with the idea that people who are posting will be more readable over time than they are on D1, thus we also avoid killing a useful town member who might be easier to read in the future.

I’m not interested in defending the theory beyond this or arguing semantics over lurker vs no poster or whatever. If you want my vote to move, make a case I believe in

That problem doesn't exist when replacements exist though. We could get a Sloonei in here.

It still exists—that slot will have a day less to read them on than anyone else, and replacing into a vacant scum slot is actually a bit of an advantage

Then provide an opportunity for a vig to handle it.

If we lynch the slot, we'll be going in blind, AND have one less day of interactions w/ the dead to work with.

I know this is just mechanical ideal-play stuff and doesn't have too much to do with alignment, but I'd like to see who everyone would lynch in the ACTIVE playerbase. For the sake of reads and such.

At the very least, who would you lynch, if not for lurkers? Who do you suspect?

If I had a good suspect among the active players I’d be voting them

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Actually I just need the energy to get up from the couch and go to my PC ake some quotes, cuz I already know who I wanna vote for.

vote first quote later? :P

In the Syndicate? Are you insane?

I'll come here an hour later to 3 votes on me and 5 notifications asking me to explain it.

[speedchuck]

Actually I just need the energy to get up from the couch and go to my PC ake some quotes, cuz I already know who I wanna vote for.

vote first quote later? :P

In the Syndicate? Are you insane?

I'll come here an hour later to 3 votes on me and 5 notifications asking me to explain it.

I do it pretty often.

Keeps getting me lynched though.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Now it's time for you people to explain why everyone and their dog is townreading Radishes because I don't see it.

Alternatively, let's lynch him.