Corrupt!? Mafia (ENDGAME)

[Dragomir]

@sloonei why i sus hyena: he's one of the people who are conveniently wolf reading me without real reasons. he tried to kill mikey in the shots turbo we played together. consistency in scum play i guess

Huh? I don't get how shooting Mikey in a turbo game is relevant here.

hyena was scum. mikey's an easy mislynch

i'm an easy mislynch rn

What makes you easy?

i mean look at me

i'm likely on most people's shortlists rn, and for what. no one here except mac has even seen me play as scum

Lmao, sorry, this actually made laugh.

[Funnygurl555]

Just to keep notes, these are the people who pushed against the towncore suggested by Nutella:

Jack

Spoiler: show

I am supremely uncomfortable with this "towncore." (I know people will say "Jack is just scum for pushing against a correct towncore" but I don't care.)

Nanook just endgame won against an entire town that scumread him. He basically soloed the win after losing one teammate D2 and the other had to be replaced twice and died the phase after the second replacement.

Nutella stepped up her scumgame a lot in the last two, three performances including fooling me (who would normally catch her on D1 or D2) and getting vig killed on like N3 after not being voted for a single time all game).

I am 0 and 3 in reading Dusk.

You might as well add Sloonei to the core if you really want to tilt me.

Dusk

Spoiler: show

That's cool I agree

Johann

Spoiler: show

Like i can go point by point and explain to you but that wouldnt change much. I just know you deserve a bullet.

Also i dislike these early reads - town cores, a monkey could do it since it is a small game and get some right. To me feels like people just wanna present themself to be active

Funny

Spoiler: show

rn, no. idg why you're a "billboard" town (what's a billboard). this towncore thing isn't something i agree with-- i think it's too early

I like Jack's and Dusk's pushback -- Jack, because he's going against the grain, and Dusk, because he asked Jack for clarification for what he meant before agreeing with the opinion.

Johann's pushback is a complete null to me. I didn't like that he shaded us, but he also suggested that people were doing it to look active, which is kinda funny to me. I want to say that he just didn't understand what we were doing? I dunno.

I'll admit that I don't really know how to read Funny's pushback, but it's the pushback I like least, and not only because she's the most recent to pushback against it.

ya and that's bs because i came in right at the beginning of the game telling people to be cautious about reads

Your ISO says "This is a lie!".

i tol'd y'all not to quickly say johann was wrongtown what do you mean

and then there was the town core and i was like "too early for that"

my iso doesn't say this is a lie all of this is in my iso

[Duskfall]

I'm liking what funny is saying rn

[Funnygurl555]

@sloonei why i sus hyena: he's one of the people who are conveniently wolf reading me without real reasons. he tried to kill mikey in the shots turbo we played together. consistency in scum play i guess

Huh? I don't get how shooting Mikey in a turbo game is relevant here.

hyena was scum. mikey's an easy mislynch

i'm an easy mislynch rn

What makes you easy?

i mean look at me

i'm likely on most people's shortlists rn, and for what. no one here except mac has even seen me play as scum

Lmao, sorry, this actually made laugh.

don't be sorry i'm a funnygurl and this is my job

[Dragomir]

This is town fg. I'd stake sig's life on it.

Why?

FG has an easy to spot scum game now that I've seen it. She has too much wim here. She goes all myopic and low-key as wolf.

Link the game so we can see if the meta matches or not for ourselves.

[Funnygurl555]

This is town fg. I'd stake sig's life on it.

Why?

FG has an easy to spot scum game now that I've seen it. She has too much wim here. She goes all myopic and low-key as wolf.

"easy to spot" yet we still ended up in f3 :P

[Funnygurl555]

I'm liking what funny is saying rn

ayyyy

[Duskfall]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

[Duskfall]

Can you guys give me the gun then during night phase I'll pretend to be the host of the game and do vote counts as you guys lynch a player using my shot that would be funny

[Hyena]

Okay, for real guys, I know I'm usually a huge proponent of tying up wagons, but let's try not to do that so much right now. Ideally, I'd want only two leading wagons. I feel like three would open more opportunities to tie up the wagons.

[Duskfall]

Okay, for real guys, I know I'm usually a huge proponent of tying up wagons, but let's try not to do that so much right now. Ideally, I'd want only two leading wagons. I feel like three would open more opportunities to tie up the wagons.

Dw I'm getting the gun

[Dragomir]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

[Hyena]

Okay, for real guys, I know I'm usually a huge proponent of tying up wagons, but let's try not to do that so much right now. Ideally, I'd want only two leading wagons. I feel like three would open more opportunities to tie up the wagons.

Dw I'm getting the gun

I'm tempted to just place my vote on you right now to avoid this tie mess.

[Funnygurl555]

im fine with dusk having the gun but i also think mac is a good idea

[MacDougall]

This is town fg. I'd stake sig's life on it.

Why?

FG has an easy to spot scum game now that I've seen it. She has too much wim here. She goes all myopic and low-key as wolf.

"easy to spot" yet we still ended up in f3 :P

Now that I've seen it.

Yes we got to f3. You were good.

[Hyena]

Okay, for real guys, I know I'm usually a huge proponent of tying up wagons, but let's try not to do that so much right now. Ideally, I'd want only two leading wagons. I feel like three would open more opportunities to tie up the wagons.

Dw I'm getting the gun

I'm tempted to just place my vote on you right now to avoid this tie mess.

I really want that gun though. ;-;

[Duskfall]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment

[Funnygurl555]

This is town fg. I'd stake sig's life on it.

Why?

FG has an easy to spot scum game now that I've seen it. She has too much wim here. She goes all myopic and low-key as wolf.

"easy to spot" yet we still ended up in f3 :P

Now that I've seen it.

Yes we got to f3. You were good.

mac thinks i did good T_______________________T

[nutella]

Nutella wants the gun

Nutella knows she is not getting the gun, so she is voting someone else to get the gun who she thinks is town

Nutella wants the gun as either alignment regardless, this is a ridiculous argument that you could literally replace all nutella for any player not named nanook duskfall or hyena and it would have as much ground as saying it about nutella

Boo, why don't you want the gun and why aren't you trying to get the gun?

I would take the gun, but I'm never going to get more then a total of 3 votes to receive it, so spending my time trying to get it would be wasted.

It’s weird your username says boo but I swear I read nutella talking. Bug maybe?

Man I left for a couple hours and yall just popped off. This is hilarious.

[nutella]

Give me the gun.

Dang I'm late to the party and you don't have any votes currently. This still on the table?

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

[nutella]

Lol we're crossvoting now. Whatever I'm just gonna finish catching up and then we can get into serious vote business.

[Duskfall]

Give me the gun.

Dang I'm late to the party and you don't have any votes currently. This still on the table?

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Give me back my vote Nutella I need to shoot scum

[Dragomir]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment

Tell me, what would you prefer to have? 2 games on a player in which they were opposite alignments or only 1 game from said player as one alignment or no games at all?

Btw, since you are against meta reads based off a small sample size, what do you think about Sloonei's meta read on FG? Just like me, he's only played one game with her.

[MacDougall]

Nutella give me gun plz

[MacDougall]

Hyena... I need to kill a bitch

[nutella]

Nutella, if I told you that I never intended to really shoot you and just wanted to see who would vote to give me a gun if I said I'd shoot you, do you think the wagon to give me a gun is pure?

I'm undecided on boo and G-Man (and you but I suppose we're ignoring that for this thought experiment), but it could be.

[Hyena]

I want to talk to Jack. Where is Jack?

[Duskfall]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment

Tell me, what would you prefer to have? 2 games on a player in which they were opposite alignments or only 1 game from said player as one alignment or no games at all?

Btw, since you are against meta reads based off a small sample size, what do you think about Sloonei's meta read on FG? Just like me, he's only played one game with her.

Say it's worthless and means nothing

[Hyena]

Hyena... I need to kill a bitch

I'll think about it, bby

[nutella]

ok [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I pondered it for a second in shower.

I have to have the gun. Duskfall and Hyena have no meta on the Syndicate regs. I'm the one with the most experience with this player group. I am clearly the best choice.

[nutella]

hmm funny is voting mac

well I guess I'll see what's up with that

[Dragomir]

Drago it's not possible to learn to metaread someone that quick

True but having a game of info on a player to use for your reads is >>> to having none. I have only one game to use as meta and that's the AC game in which FG was town in. I want to balance it with a scum game from her.

Still don't think it's possible to metaread off 2 games you are comparing how they played differently in two games which will always be different

You aren't getting a common thread of behaviour consistent in one alignment in every game, that no does not exist in the other alignment

Tell me, what would you prefer to have? 2 games on a player in which they were opposite alignments or only 1 game from said player as one alignment or no games at all?

Btw, since you are against meta reads based off a small sample size, what do you think about Sloonei's meta read on FG? Just like me, he's only played one game with her.

Say it's worthless and means nothing

Wait, which question are you answering here?

[Duskfall]

Damn I lost all my votes the syndicate was afraid of letting my kill scum too quick they want to give mafia a chance

[Hyena]

I pondered it for a second in shower.

I have to have the gun. Duskfall and Hyena have no meta on the Syndicate regs. I'm the one with the most experience with this player group. I am clearly the best choice.

...oh shit, lol. Is that why we're getting votes? Haven't we both said though that we're gonna be taking suggestions from all the other players?

[nutella]

Nutella town

she just backpedaled in the face of pressure

that's a weak town or an unconfident scum

hi welcome to me

[Sloonei]

sloonei you don't deserve the gun this phase maybe like d2 lol

and yeah that's fair i hope people get their butts in here too

What the hell does that mean?

[Dragomir]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] do you think Nutella is good or bad?

[MacDougall]

I pondered it for a second in shower.

I have to have the gun. Duskfall and Hyena have no meta on the Syndicate regs. I'm the one with the most experience with this player group. I am clearly the best choice.

...oh shit, lol. Is that why we're getting votes? Haven't we both said though that we're gonna be taking suggestions from all the other players?

I will take suggestions by virtue of reading the game with a fine tooth comb friend.

[Duskfall]

I'm actually tilted bird are moving into mac because

"I had to consider long and hard to realise I've played here more"

Really that's the argument we are going with, you could give it literally any player then vote shifts seem to be looking for the excuse of someone else asking for it, why give to mac now but not Nanook earlier

[Hyena]

@MacDougall do you think Nutella is good or bad?

Drago, why did you move your vote to Mac?

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall do you think Nutella is good or bad?

I think it would be foolhardy to give her a town read here but as of right now she is not someone I will shoot.

[Dragomir]

@MacDougall do you think Nutella is good or bad?

Drago, why did you move your vote to Mac?

For fun.

[Duskfall]

Nutella has detereoriated fmpov since funny started pushing her

[Dragomir]

Nutella has detereoriated fmpov since funny started pushing her

Fmpov? What's that?

[Duskfall]

Nutella has detereoriated fmpov since funny started pushing her

Fmpov? What's that?

From my point of view

[Hyena]

I'm a little skeptical here, even if Mac's argument does kinda resonate with me. I feel like Dusk and I would be the most neutral people here as far as meta-reads go for Syndicate players here. We'd be the most likely to follow other people's reads rather than rely on just our own reads on Syndicate people.

[MacDougall]

I'm actually tilted bird are moving into mac because

"I had to consider long and hard to realise I've played here more"

Really that's the argument we are going with, you could give it literally any player then vote shifts seem to be looking for the excuse of someone else asking for it, why give to mac now but not Nanook earlier

It's not the reason I should have it over everyone. Just you and Hyena.

That aside I have a good early game radar.

It's no offence towards you. Putting the gun in your hands just seems like a bad idea.

And to be honest I don't really trust nutella and Sloonei enough to support them having it.

[Sloonei]

It is quite silly that anyone can look at nutella and not see an obvious civilian.

[MacDougall]

I'm a little skeptical here, even if Mac's argument does kinda resonate with me. I feel like Dusk and I would be the most neutral people here as far as meta-reads go for Syndicate players here. We'd be the most likely to follow other people's reads rather than rely on just our own reads on Syndicate people.

Why is following other people's reads a good thing here? There are no flips. I have good d1 instincts.