FTL Mafia [ENDGAME]

[tedxtr]

tedxtr - Inno child. Wouldn't lynch yet.

btw, game theory wise, soneji - sig still makes sense with Jack as a third, because if it goes to shit, you can rely on him to carry.

Sooooo...

[tedxtr]

Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice.

:fry narrowed eyes emoji:

why

[Epignosis]

Votes should be changeable for all polls, including this one.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Moved to a Mac vote.

Scrap should be evenly distributed between me/Mac/nutella imo, seems relatively safe bet that one of us will be NKed.

[Epignosis]

ColinIsCool has been grounded. JaggedJimmyJay is in the pilot's chair.

[Soneji]

JJJ here to flaunt his ego after his qualifier

[MacDougall]

Well this game is won if Jay is town.

Jay we did the thing so you can do the things.

[Soneji]

@Epignosis is a vote for Colin a vote for JJJ?

[JiwonMeganPark]

Sorry for being AFK but thanks for rightfully townreading me~
You won't be disappointed~

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis is a vote for Colin a vote for JJJ?

Yes. Please remember:

13) All questions should be asked privately. PM Epignosis and you will receive a private answer.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’ll find the other mafia now, lead their lynches, everyone will forget about Day 1, and I’ll get all the credit.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

First thought is that the recurring meme of The Syndicate since about the start of 2019 has been:

~ mafioso lynched Day 1
~ civilians lose anyway
~ nobody caught the busser

I'm not going to assume straightaway that the Jack wagon is fully pure. I'll decide what that means if anything as I proceed.

[MacDougall]

I’ll find the other mafia now, lead their lynches, everyone will forget about Day 1, and I’ll get all the credit.

If there is a busser on the wagon it's Long Con. The other three of us are never bussen.

Start with Spacedaisy. Then look at yourself because you're probably the second most scummy. Then like Myo and the rest of them.

Soneji was the counterwagon.

I think Sloonei is spewed clear because I feel like Jack didn't fake derping the EOD and Sloonei was here the whole time so I want to derpclear him on "I think he'd make sure Jack didn't derp the EOD.

[MacDougall]

"

[MacDougall]

Also Jay I'm enforce policy lynching you if we don't lynch Mafia on day two.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also Jay I'm enforce policy lynching you if we don't lynch Mafia on day two.

Fine. We're going to do that, so I don't care.

[MacDougall]

Also Jay I'm enforce policy lynching you if we don't lynch Mafia on day two.

Fine. We're going to do that, so I don't care.

That's the spirit.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Dragomir / nutella

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Jack

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Colin, Drago and Daisy haven’t posted at all.

Hey all, just found out this game started. Just wanted to say hello before I go back and start catching up. Sorry I missed the start, I’ve had a rough week and honestly Thursday is my busiest day, so bear with me.

[VOTE: Drago] aubergine

Dragomir has been grounded. nutella is taking over.

Jack threw out a mention and a vote in a very token manner that looks deliberate. I won't hold it against nutella; Jack is not level 1.

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I knew Nutella was in the game. I didn’t know I was voting for her tho.

Fart

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Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

Those posts didn't age well though, given nutella is actually in the game now

nutella

Is this a salad?

Myo is my favorite player, 10/10 buddying accepted.

Mac seems civvie.
Nanook seems meh, this time I'm right I swear.
I wanna lynch Sloonie, for reasons,
LC, since I've gotten away from my roots of always lynching him and him usually, sometimes, kinda always being mafia.
Ted, since I never wanna lynch Ted and I think it'll be a fun way to start the game.

If Nutella was here, she'd call this salad tho.

i saw this and no, i wouldn't??? It's not lol

Checking your mentions is overrated. I was just trying to help.

I’m honestly not sure why anyone is voting for me.

Mac thinks I’m distancing from LC?

Nutella doesn’t like my taste in salad?

This is gonna be one of those games where I end up antialigned with everyone and people still suspect me come lylo huh?

Given that this dialogue extends from a period in which nutella wasn't actually playing, I hesitate to draw much from it. The answer is no, however: it was not a salad. Jack has never used that term correctly before. nutella knows.

nutella

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I already responded jack come on. It was a no and I resent the slander. I was mad at that post way back when I saw it from my spec seat.

I would say there is probably a wolf between Nanook/Jack personally. It's definitely always Jack because Nanook is lock town.

I can dig this

Jack failing to summon the Zord means one of two things.

1. Jack is a wolf spewing LC TMI
2. Jack is a wolf and LC is his partner

The reality of the situation is that Jack refusing to vote for LC means he is always Mafia. This is not a meme read.

Oh yeah that makes sense.

We have 8 minutes, are we moving it over?

LC is voting for Jack hm

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

S P I C E

This is dumb but Mac knows my reaction to team ups and towncores tends to range somewhere between flat denial and restrained agreement with jokes in between.

So I kinda don’t think his treatment of me has been buddying, which makes me think he’s town.

So this is you trying to buddy him, right?

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Eh I'm switchin'.

Oh fuck he voted LC.

Switchin' back.

idk Jack voting LC makes me more want to vote Jack I think

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

These posts all come from the EOD sequence as the wagon shifted over to Jack. nutella handles the matter frivolously in a way that I think looks reasonably organic. If I have any pause here, it's that her first post in the game came 2 hours prior to EOD, and within that time frame she found her way to a correct suspicion and a correct vote (reminders of Quin in Mad Max). That this was a very abrupt hot potato stands in her favor anyway. I suspect she'd be less whimsical about this stuff as a Jack teammate.

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Conclusion:

The most important factor here is that the lynch was a hot potato, and nutella's role in that speaks favorably for her.

[Long Con]

Moved to a Mac vote.

Scrap should be evenly distributed between me/Mac/nutella imo, seems relatively safe bet that one of us will be NKed.

I'll vote Nanook. I want a vote or two as well though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Jiwon

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Jack

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I figure we should give the bonus scrap to Soneji because we miss playing with him or a new player as a welcome present/wolves probably don't shoot the new players early anyway. There's three of them though, so I'm just gonna vote Soneji for scrap.

Howdy, JiwonMeganPark motobot and Myo. Where are ya'll from and do I know you by any other names already?

Me neither but they say something in here:
"Eat the grape, don't ask the vineyard"

What does that mean and who is they?

A bunch of nothing

Jiwon

Nothing

Conclusion:

I'm not going to bother interpreting the lack of things to say. Keep Jiwon in the POE pool.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Long Con

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Long Con

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[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

S P I C E

This is dumb but Mac knows my reaction to team ups and towncores tends to range somewhere between flat denial and restrained agreement with jokes in between.

So I kinda don’t think his treatment of me has been buddying, which makes me think he’s town.

So this is you trying to buddy him, right?

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

For sure. Caught already.

Jack's last reply here may be to LC's credit. If LC throws up a bit ~let's distance~ sign and Jack responds with that, then I don't know what he has achieved beyond [not even playing in the game yet] JJJ reading it this way right now.

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Jackofhearts2005 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we must summon the Megazord!

You should know I’m torn between posting Power Ranger memes and just voting LC (cause his push on me was limp and Sloonei’s mini iso on him does show him being scummy) and you know, actually finishing catching up cause I’m only a few pages back.

Jack calling LC's push limp while saying he's torn about voting is some fun nonsense.

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[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I’ll be the green ranger and Mac can be the red and LC can be a giant train monster or whatever.

Jack waited until 4 minutes prior to EOD to place this vote. I'm not inclined to award credit on that basis -- Jack's lack of enthusiasm about the vote is visible.

Long Con

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Seems like as good a way as any to welcome soneji

Also we should probably be doing one vote on everyone tbh

You talkin' about lynch-style votes, or today's vote. I like Jack's idea for today's vote. Although I also want the extra scrap because upgrading sounds legit.

This was Day 0. I don't know what Jack's idea was. Let me go look.

It seems to have been the "give the scrap to Soneji or a newcomer" thing. I don't care about this.

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Conclusion:

Long Con's vote came approximately 31 hours before the deadline, and that was his last post of Day 1. I don't think credit is warranted here. Keep LC in the POE pool.

[MacDougall]

Jay is gonna end you mafia fucks

[Long Con]

Mac, can I have your scrap vote? I deserve a little scrap.

[MacDougall]

Mac, can I have your scrap vote? I deserve a little scrap.

Nutella be already up in this shit

[Long Con]

Mac, can I have your scrap vote? I deserve a little scrap.

Nutella be already up in this shit

Nutella has plenty. LC needs scrap love.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Mac

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I feel like Sloonei's votes are pretend for the first 3/4ths of D1 and Sig somehow pocketed me in a game recently iirc. Covid? Like I'm just gonna let that stuff play out without worrying about what either of them are doing atm. Unless when I read the posts I've missed there's nothing else interesting going on.

Mirrored a lot of my thoughts Jack. Shall we dance together in honour of our failure to do so in the recent game?

Yeah and when we come to an agreement on who is scummy, we agree not to lynch them.

I don't understand this but deal!

The joke is we found each other last game...and then together, decided that Nanook and Boo were the mafia but they were both town.

Good joke actually

I know. I’m really funny.

This whole exchange is meaningless.

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[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

S P I C E

This is dumb but Mac knows my reaction to team ups and towncores tends to range somewhere between flat denial and restrained agreement with jokes in between.

So I kinda don’t think his treatment of me has been buddying, which makes me think he’s town.

TMI

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Soneji just claimed mafia

Morethepeopleseyebrow.gif

k

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Jackofhearts2005 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we must summon the Megazord!

You should know I’m torn between posting Power Ranger memes and just voting LC (cause his push on me was limp and Sloonei’s mini iso on him does show him being scummy) and you know, actually finishing catching up cause I’m only a few pages back.

Snore

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Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

HOLY FUCK CODE RED THIS IS NOT A DRILL JACK IS ACTUALLY SCUM

My internet is running slow so pretend there’s a gif of a Pokémon using leer right here.

Jack's response looks like a player trying to hide the pee soak in his jammies. Nice for Mac.

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how does it feel to be sprung, done, had, got, framed, cornered, pwned, ended, 86ed, savaged

Great cause I can finally use this gif I saved forever ago.

Probably literal

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[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I’ll be the green ranger and Mac can be the red and LC can be a giant train monster or whatever.

I’m honestly not sure why anyone is voting for me.

Mac thinks I’m distancing from LC?

Nutella doesn’t like my taste in salad?

This is gonna be one of those games where I end up antialigned with everyone and people still suspect me come lylo huh?

Whatever


Mac

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Jack do you want to lock town each other and just ignore all scum tells in favour of destroying the game if we're right? I like the odds personally.

Jack and Mac attack is back to snack on wolf sack.

It's enjoyable that when a wolf sack was indeed a snack, it was Jack's own sack that gave Mac no flak. He'll probably yack and quack about deserving a plaque handcrafted by Jacques Chirac. Mac's always had a knack for sack, so give him a smack on the back and join the attack.

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ColinIsCool - I haven't read any of his posts
nutellamir - I haven't read any of their posts
Jackofhearts2005 - Can confirm that this is in fact Jackofhearts2005 playing in this slot
JiwonMeganPark - Strange day zero. Strange play in general. Have no meta. No idea of noob town or noob wolf. Probably need to lynch this person not on day 1.
Long Con - Long Con won't be solved by night kill ever so Long Con will need to be a focus of heavy town solving and be placed under immense pressure Prepare for anxiety LC.
MacDougall - Damn my garden is going great! Who knew I was such a great gardener.
motobot - Nanook being evil is a pretty fair thing to say. Probably a townie kid here.
Myo - Slightly less askew play than Jiwon. Coaching?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Just lock town always.
sig - Mislynch sig is in full effect. I think I've finally reached the point where I can tell when it's occurring.
Sloonei - Can confirm that this is Sloonei and not an AI emulation of him.
Soneji - Biggest scum read. His energy is off imo.
Spacedaisy - Will probs get solved by night kills if and when she decides to switch on.
tedxtr - Inno child. Wouldn't lynch yet.

Give me actual reads please or you know how I do

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Path to victory:

Day 1 lynch Long Con or Soneji. Hopefully we get wolf there. I'd say probs higher than rand chance and it's probably one of the higher rated players in any potential wolf build unless we have the misfortunate of having randed LC/Soneji + some combination of Sloo/Jack/Nook/Nut/Daisy. Which I mean, it's probable too but also those are all gonna get night killed if they're town and we run this game deep. Never lynch sig day 1. Even if it's a scum lynch it's usually the worst scum lynch and sig is a great townie that never really gets a chance to shine. He can draw night kills if his reads are on song and that's a good thing if it happens in any game really because of his propensity to get mislynched.

Day 1 kill: I'd guess as long as the townies amongst the aforementioned names town read me on the large I probably cop a bullet here. But it's near certainly going to be one of Sloo/Nut/Mac/Daisy I'd say.

Day 2 lynch: If we get a wolf flip day one we'll have a POE. For the love of God just start lynching from the POE. If we fail to hit fur day 1 lynch the other of LC/Soneji.

Day 2 kill: Probs gonna be another from that pile of names I mentioned.

Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice. If we have 1 or 2 wolves, keep working through the POE and we'll win eventually.

If we follow this model up to day 3 we have an >80% chance of winning the game and right now anyone sane would be accepting that opportunity.

Jack's name exists within this game map. Okay.

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Legacy reads:

ColinIsCool - Scum
Dragonella- Lock town
Jackofhearts2005 - Town
JiwonMeganPark - Town
Long Con - Town
MacDougall - Scum
motobot - Town
Myo - Town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Scum
ig - Scum
Sloonei - Scum
Soneji - Scum
Spacedaisy - Scum
tedxtr - Scum

70 minutes prior to EOD, Mac was pro-Jack. That's just to note cuz timelines matter kids. It was near to the deadline when Mac screamed the caps lock red alert and the wagon pile shifted over. I think that's to his credit.

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Conclusion:

Mac's fine.

[MacDougall]

It's enjoyable that when a wolf sack was indeed a snack, it was Jack's own sack that gave Mac no flak. He'll probably yack and quack about deserving a plaque handcrafted by Jacques Chirac. Mac's always had a knack for sack, so give him a smack on the back and join the attack.

oh my god someone send this to socky's the contest is over

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and motobot

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I figure we should give the bonus scrap to Soneji because we miss playing with him or a new player as a welcome present/wolves probably don't shoot the new players early anyway. There's three of them though, so I'm just gonna vote Soneji for scrap.

Howdy, JiwonMeganPark motobot and Myo. Where are ya'll from and do I know you by any other names already?

I think that Nanook is bad he might kill me he's evil

I love your avatar. Kirby Superstars is such a fun game.

Not much to it. No notes.

motobot

Nada

Conclusion:

motobot remains in the POE pool

[MacDougall]

Jay can I just say that the reads list I gave was literally an upside down meme. That is not a genuine reads list.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay can I just say that the reads list I gave was literally an upside down meme. That is not a genuine reads list.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Myo

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I figure we should give the bonus scrap to Soneji because we miss playing with him or a new player as a welcome present/wolves probably don't shoot the new players early anyway. There's three of them though, so I'm just gonna vote Soneji for scrap.

Howdy, JiwonMeganPark motobot and Myo. Where are ya'll from and do I know you by any other names already?

I keep quoting this post like it matters

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Lol at Sig already having two votes.

Was my initial reaction but also Sloonei isn't the type to just lolvote sig so he may have seen something there that I did not.

I feel like Sloonei's votes are pretend for the first 3/4ths of D1 and Sig somehow pocketed me in a game recently iirc. Covid? Like I'm just gonna let that stuff play out without worrying about what either of them are doing atm. Unless when I read the posts I've missed there's nothing else interesting going on.

Pocketed?

Fooled into thinking he was town. Like the wolf has collected incorrect townreads in his pocket.

Don't think I care about this

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Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

Also, what is salad?

Buddying the newcomer to assuage any suspicion embedded in Myo's statement that Jack deserved push-back for referencing nutella and salads. Decent for Myo

Myo

Nothing not already addressed

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Conclusion:


I think the things I have to talk about are decent. There's barely any of it; it's not enough -- keep Myo in the POE pool.

[MacDougall]

Inb4 Jay goes to great lengths to arrive at the same conclusions I outlined for him before he started.

[MacDougall]

I'll vote Spacedaisy so Mac does't get it.

Why didn't you want me to "get it"?

I think that it's just LC, Jack & Daisy tbh.

[MacDougall]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Nanook

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Self voting isn’t allowed

I knew that. I was just testing you.

k

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No mate you're dead.

Okay, Nanook/Boo.

I’m honestly not sure why anyone is voting for me.

Mac thinks I’m distancing from LC?

Nutella doesn’t like my taste in salad?

This is gonna be one of those games where I end up antialigned with everyone and people still suspect me come lylo huh?

X for doubt

No seriously why are you voting for me?

This falls within the "Jack doesn't know he's dead" period, if we take that seriously. Jack had nothing to say about Nanook's vote for him until he asked this question in this typically mafioso tone. It's hard to say how this would have developed if Jack had another hour as he [allegedly] expected. For what it is, I don't think it hurts Nanook's cause. It just exists.

Nanook

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Seems like as good a way as any to welcome soneji

Also we should probably be doing one vote on everyone tbh

You talkin' about lynch-style votes, or today's vote. I like Jack's idea for today's vote. Although I also want the extra scrap because upgrading sounds legit.

Today’s scrap vote.

What was jack’s idea?

Jackofhearts2005 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we must summon the Megazord!

I’m not gonna get my way, so....ok

I’m honestly not sure why anyone is voting for me.

Mac thinks I’m distancing from LC?

Nutella doesn’t like my taste in salad?

This is gonna be one of those games where I end up antialigned with everyone and people still suspect me come lylo huh?

X for doubt

No seriously why are you voting for me?

I didn’t see daisy’s vote so I sheeped mac instead

Y'all should have known my game would sweep and that I would replace in and then made posts that I can work with

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Conclusion:

The actual posts don't tell me much, so interpret Nanook on the basis of his vote. Again, given the hot potato nature of the wagon, I think it's good enough.

[MacDougall]

Jay I think I am having my best town game ever while actually not trying and memeing. You should read my ISO and tell me if I'm dreaming lol.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and sig

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Lol at Sig already having two votes.

Lol at Sig already having two votes.

Was my initial reaction but also Sloonei isn't the type to just lolvote sig so he may have seen something there that I did not.

I feel like Sloonei's votes are pretend for the first 3/4ths of D1 and Sig somehow pocketed me in a game recently iirc. Covid? Like I'm just gonna let that stuff play out without worrying about what either of them are doing atm. Unless when I read the posts I've missed there's nothing else interesting going on.

Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

I mean, I think salad is a more useful tool against specific players who tend to do that, especially ones who don't know about salad and can consciously not do it. For Sig, it's maybe -5% off his townieness score. Not worth lynching for alone but relevant after being like "lol people are voting for Sig."

None of this is inspiring. Jack gave commentary on sig but no read. "-5% towniness" is not a read.

sig

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Myo is my favorite player, 10/10 buddying accepted.

Mac seems civvie.
Nanook seems meh, this time I'm right I swear.
I wanna lynch Sloonie, for reasons,
LC, since I've gotten away from my roots of always lynching him and him usually, sometimes, kinda always being mafia.
Ted, since I never wanna lynch Ted and I think it'll be a fun way to start the game.

If Nutella was here, she'd call this salad tho.

It's the best salad of them all though.

Weak

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lol wtf CFD are like 90% of the time dumb

This came two minutes after the deadline. I was actually about to rip sig in half for this; the timing makes it less troubling. He can't prevent the hot potato if it has already resolved. This might be good for sig given the attitude as a result. There's some WIFOM in that.

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Conclusion:

I feel like I am working with table scraps here. I don't have enough to remove sig from the POE.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jay I think I am having my best town game ever while actually not trying and memeing. You should read my ISO and tell me if I'm dreaming lol.

I'll give you credit for managing to get one out of a Day 1 that is so far frustrating me significantly in my reviews. There is nothing to facking talk about.

[MacDougall]

So if sig and jack both didn't realise the deadline occurred... isn't that like massively suspect?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So if sig and jack both didn't realise the deadline occurred... isn't that like massively suspect?

Could be.

[mention]sig[/mention] did you know the day was over when you complained about the hot potato?

[Long Con]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. You're vastly overstating your quality of play right now.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't think that's the first time I've seen sig complain about a hot potato just before it flips mafia either. Stop saying wrong things sig.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. You're vastly overstating your quality of play right now.

What is Mac's play lacking?

[Long Con]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. You're vastly overstating your quality of play right now.

What is Mac's play lacking?

Cred for civ LC. That fact that he's "pretty sure" I'm bad is a glaring negative on his quality record.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. You're vastly overstating your quality of play right now.

What is Mac's play lacking?

Cred for civ LC. That fact that he's "pretty sure" I'm bad is a glaring negative on his quality record.

How well is Mac playing if he is dead right about everyone in the game other than you?

[Long Con]

I actually just discovered something really insightful in my play that I'm never sharing with anyone.

I wouldn't put too much stock in it. You're vastly overstating your quality of play right now.

What is Mac's play lacking?

Cred for civ LC. That fact that he's "pretty sure" I'm bad is a glaring negative on his quality record.

How well is Mac playing if he is dead right about everyone in the game other than you?

Well, he's lucky on Day 1 that I wasn't around near day's end, because I probably would have been trying to self-preserve by the time he clued in that Jack was bad, and Jack wouldn't have gotten lynched. He did well to follow my lead on the Jack vote, so that's a positive on his record. He immediately jumped to the idea that I'm bad, both before and after I was key in the Jack lynch. So far nothing is blowing my skirt up here.

I'll say that anyone who is dead right about everyone in the game is doing well.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Interactions of Jack and Sloonei

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Lol at Sig already having two votes.

Was my initial reaction but also Sloonei isn't the type to just lolvote sig so he may have seen something there that I did not.

I feel like Sloonei's votes are pretend for the first 3/4ths of D1 and Sig somehow pocketed me in a game recently iirc. Covid? Like I'm just gonna let that stuff play out without worrying about what either of them are doing atm. Unless when I read the posts I've missed there's nothing else interesting going on.

If I reach this may betray Jack's mindset for how to deal with civilian Sloonei on his Day 1 mafioso adventure.

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i'll see what happens when jack gets a vote

You see an eyebrow raise cause we agreed your votes don’t count.

Jack calling a bluff instead of doing something with this speaks well for Sloonei.

I don't have to respond to your vote, because you're Sloonei and you always throw around votes. Neener neener.

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the problem with this game right now is that all the posts have been made by like five people.

hey everyone else, come talk about the talkative losers.

After last game, I’m willing to vote off quiet people. torturous endgame.

k

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Voting for an inactive player at this stage in this game would be like throwing darts at a board while blindfolded and drunk.

Counterpoint: Losing to inactive wolves hurts my self esteem and those things don’t make me significantly worse at darts.

More serious counterpoint: So let’s lynch off false memories? Huh?

Don't care

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Placeholder vote on Colin. Ted’s response RE: sonenji looks like a civilian.

I’ll figure out what fo think about soneji later.

Wait....what?

Ted is town. Soneji is tbd.

I was questioning your Colin vote after you failed against lynching a no show.

Kinda softball

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[LONG CON ISO]

That’s some major personal shade, Sloonei.

Meh

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Jackofhearts2005 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME we must summon the Megazord!

You should know I’m torn between posting Power Ranger memes and just voting LC (cause his push on me was limp and Sloonei’s mini iso on him does show him being scummy) and you know, actually finishing catching up cause I’m only a few pages back.

Now that I think of it, this little bit may speak well for Long Con and Sloonei -- if LC flips civilian, Sloonei is set up as "the guy who did a mini-iso on him and showed him being scummy".

Sloonei

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Lol at Sig already having two votes.

Was my initial reaction but also Sloonei isn't the type to just lolvote sig so he may have seen something there that I did not.

I feel like Sloonei's votes are pretend for the first 3/4ths of D1 and Sig somehow pocketed me in a game recently iirc. Covid? Like I'm just gonna let that stuff play out without worrying about what either of them are doing atm. Unless when I read the posts I've missed there's nothing else interesting going on.

There we go

Kinda wish Sloonei didn't grant Jack this, because then why is Jack supposed to care when

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i'll see what happens when jack gets a vote

happens?

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Mini ISOs because something needs to happen in this game. Colin and Drago haven't posted yet. They both get a shrug.

Jack:

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Repairs: For each vote you took in the Day poll (regardless of its value), you will lose one scrap for repairs. If you cannot repair your ship, you will begin the next Day with votes against you equal to the number of votes you cannot afford to repair. You need not PM the Host to initiate repairs; these will be done automatically as long as you have the scrap.

That's a fun mechanic. Off wagon votes actually do something.

Like maybe if you're the only person who scumreads someone, you can eventually make them a viable lynch just be being persistent. And there's no such thing as scum hiding off wagon because they're always hurting someone. Plus, wolves may be less willing to vote for a teammate at all.

I like this post for vague reasons. I feel like it shows a Jack who's eager to get back in the saddle after a very disappointing result in the game that recently ended. Ordinarily I'd raise an eyebrow over Jack being so focused and on-topic early, but instead I read that as a hunger to solve a game after the Corrupt!? experience, as evidenced in these posts:

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the problem with this game right now is that all the posts have been made by like five people.

hey everyone else, come talk about the talkative losers.

After last game, I’m willing to vote off quiet people. torturous endgame.

Voting for an inactive player at this stage in this game would be like throwing darts at a board while blindfolded and drunk.

Counterpoint: Losing to inactive wolves hurts my self esteem and those things don’t make me significantly worse at darts.

More serious counterpoint: So let’s lynch off false memories? Huh?

Not enough has happened to assess the direction of his reads. That's gonna be a common thing here. But based on attitude and energy, Jack feels like a civilian. Would not lynch.

I'm not ISOing ted because I've already talked to/about him more than anyone else. He's a town read, as explained here. I guess I also need a nutella read now too. Here's a temporary rainbow:

Myo
Jack
ted
motobot
Jiwon
Nanook
sig
mac
Soneji
Colin
Dragotella
Spacedaisy
Long Con

I'm concerned. Sloonei I have concerns.

The orange thing up there is, at face value, bad. Ordinarily I would suspect X but today I don't suspect X is not a template for a good read. I can give it a chance as you provide posts to evidence your perspective of Jack's "energy", but I don't see much energy in Jack as I review this game. The posts you highlighted are also quite empty -- Jack has energy because he is willing to lynch no shows? That's energy?

Sloonei I have concerns.

Even if I accept that premise, I don't know how it's enough to give Jack a spot at the tippy top tier of the rainbow.

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Placeholder vote on Colin. Ted’s response RE: sonenji looks like a civilian.

I’ll figure out what fo think about soneji later.

Wait....what?

Ted is town. Soneji is tbd.

I was questioning your Colin vote after you failed against lynching a no show.

I thought we agreed my votes don't count?

soft

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Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

HOLY FUCK CODE RED THIS IS NOT A DRILL JACK IS ACTUALLY SCUM

Abandon ship?

I'm not going to be super confident in any vote today, but I'm less comfortable making a wild swing onto jack at this moment than I am staying put.

holy linki

Sloonei worded this like he was to some degree tempted by the last-second move to Jack but just didn't have the confidence. Jack was a top-tier green read, so why is there even temptation? If Sloonei agreed with Mac's red alert, I would expect him to say that. If Sloonei did not agree and still felt good about Jack, I would expect him to say that.

Sloonei I have concerns.

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Conclusions:

Sloonei I have concerns. I have concerns, Sloonei. Jack's posts kinda worked in his favor, but Sloonei's posts are, well, they're giving me concerns.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Well, he's lucky on Day 1 that I wasn't around near day's end, because I probably would have been trying to self-preserve by the time he clued in that Jack was bad, and Jack wouldn't have gotten lynched. He did well to follow my lead on the Jack vote, so that's a positive on his record. He immediately jumped to the idea that I'm bad, both before and after I was key in the Jack lynch. So far nothing is blowing my skirt up here.

I'll say that anyone who is dead right about everyone in the game is doing well.

What was your contribution to the Jack lynch that you felt was key? This is not rhetorical: tell me as the newcomer.

[Long Con]

Well, he's lucky on Day 1 that I wasn't around near day's end, because I probably would have been trying to self-preserve by the time he clued in that Jack was bad, and Jack wouldn't have gotten lynched. He did well to follow my lead on the Jack vote, so that's a positive on his record. He immediately jumped to the idea that I'm bad, both before and after I was key in the Jack lynch. So far nothing is blowing my skirt up here.

I'll say that anyone who is dead right about everyone in the game is doing well.

What was your contribution to the Jack lynch that you felt was key? This is not rhetorical: tell me as the newcomer.

I was the first to call him out as bad, and the first to vote for him. I never changed my vote, and never intended to.

If I weren't voting for Jack, he almost definitely wouldn't have been lynched.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ll find the other mafia now, lead their lynches, everyone will forget about Day 1, and I’ll get all the credit.

If there is a busser on the wagon it's Long Con. The other three of us are never bussen.

Start with Spacedaisy. Then look at yourself because you're probably the second most scummy. Then like Myo and the rest of them.

Soneji was the counterwagon.

I think Sloonei is spewed clear because I feel like Jack didn't fake derping the EOD and Sloonei was here the whole time so I want to derpclear him on "I think he'd make sure Jack didn't derp the EOD.

Or jack just didn’t check chat