FTL Mafia [ENDGAME]

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I’m not 100% sure, it’s possible I missed it, but when I went to vote with a minute left I didn’t think she had a vote down until after I’d voted. So like last 5 minutes or so I’d guess.

Groovy. And I’m assuming ted and sig had already been on Soneji for a bit?

I voted for Sonjie pretty early into the phase, before the LC wagon was leading and way before Jack. Then ted jumped on at some point and Daisy near the end.

I think sig put his vote there quite late but in the scheme of things it was before the hoo-ha. There is a chance of Sig/LC/Jack in my head too given Jack's "lol sig votes tsk tsk" commentary and sig noping the LC lynch but also not ending up on Jack but rather Soneji.

There's also the matter of Soneji not being really that suspicious given he spent most of his time in a pissing match with me which is just always town.

I wasn't feeling the LC wagon, he just doesn't seem scummy to me. But, I wasn't going to go out of my way to defend him either.

tedxtr - Inno child. Wouldn't lynch yet.

btw, game theory wise, soneji - sig still makes sense with Jack as a third, because if it goes to shit, you can rely on him to carry.

Sooooo...

What do you mean by this [mention]tedxtr[/mention]

Well this game is won if Jay is town.

Jay we did the thing so you can do the things.

Meh, I think jay could be mafia.

Mainly since I think we had an inactive mafia member, Nutella doesn't seem like mafia so Jay/Collins would be next. Also potentially Daisy?

I’ll find the other mafia now, lead their lynches, everyone will forget about Day 1, and I’ll get all the credit.

If there is a busser on the wagon it's Long Con. The other three of us are never bussen.

Start with Spacedaisy. Then look at yourself because you're probably the second most scummy. Then like Myo and the rest of them.

Soneji was the counterwagon.

I think Sloonei is spewed clear because I feel like Jack didn't fake derping the EOD and Sloonei was here the whole time so I want to derpclear him on "I think he'd make sure Jack didn't derp the EOD.

Why are we thinking he's derpcleared. Like I didn't see Jack not knowing it wasn't EOD really?

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I agree with Jay, I think? Maybe it was someone else, either way I'd not lock clear anyone on the Jack wagon. Especially given how often Mac will hard bus his team.

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I agree with Jay, I think? Maybe it was someone else, either way I'd not lock clear anyone on the Jack wagon. Especially given how often Mac will hard bus his team.

And nanook actually, I'm fairly certain he and Sloonie bussed another mafia member D1 awhile back and civs got crushed. I think this one was The Wire?

[Sloonei]

If I didn't love my current avatar so much (thank you LC), I'd use this.

[Long Con]

Jack failing to summon the Zord means one of two things.

1. Jack is a wolf spewing LC TMI
2. Jack is a wolf and LC is his partner

The reality of the situation is that Jack refusing to vote for LC means he is always Mafia. This is not a meme read.

Which was astute. So we are in one of two worlds. The question you need to ask is does Mafia Jack actually hesitate on the opportunity to vote with someone he had been actively working on pocketing against a townie there due to LC being town also? Or does he hesitate because LC is his partner?

Piling on a Civ lynch that was probably going through without his help wouldn't look great. Jack wanted to let the LC lynch happen without his fingerprints on it. Then you accused him of being a wolf for not voting me, and then he voted me to try and reverse that notion. If you want to include me in this as a wolf, then you first have to prove this statement to be true: Jack is afraid to bus a teammate that's already going down. I'll wait.

[Sloonei]

I agree with Jay, I think? Maybe it was someone else, either way I'd not lock clear anyone on the Jack wagon. Especially given how often Mac will hard bus his team.

And nanook actually, I'm fairly certain he and Sloonie bussed another mafia member D1 awhile back and civs got crushed. I think this one was The Wire?

I subbed into the Wire on like Day 2 or 3 and then I got bussed by nanook and jack.

[Long Con]

meh not seeing scum lc here

Thanks for this, sig, this post alone might have saved the entire game.

Thank you I want all credit if we win the game.

It will be well-deserved.

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I agree with Jay, I think? Maybe it was someone else, either way I'd not lock clear anyone on the Jack wagon. Especially given how often Mac will hard bus his team.

And nanook actually, I'm fairly certain he and Sloonie bussed another mafia member D1 awhile back and civs got crushed. I think this one was The Wire?

I subbed into the Wire on like Day 2 or 3 and then I got bussed by nanook and jack.

Yea, It was D2 not D1, but same general principle happened. So I could see a Jack/Nanook team doing a bussing thing or potentially Jack/Mac.

I think Nutella is the least likely to be bussing. Followed by Mac since he kick started the wagon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sloonei you made two posts and didn’t clear yourself. What is going on?

[Sloonei]

I'd appreciate thoughts on my Sloonei review. Whenever I have anything to say about him that isn't "he's town", it feels significant to me.

Part of me was hoping Jack would flip town so I wouldn’t have to deal with the “sloonei was trying to save jack” arguments.

[Sloonei]

Sloonei you made two posts and didn’t clear yourself. What is going on?

I acknowledge that I do not look great in association with Jack. I recognized a difference in his play this game to what I would expect, but attributed it to his recent game experience rather than treating as something unique to this game. I was wrong and Mac was right. I'm town and this is actually a game now, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to be me on Day 2. I hope.

i won't be killed because JaggedJimmyJay said he has concerns about me seven times.

[JiwonMeganPark]

I don't understand, how do we lose scraps? By voting anyone to execute? Do we execute by the poll on the thread?

[Sloonei]

I don't understand, how do we lose scraps? By voting anyone to execute? Do we execute by the poll on the thread?

Scrap is lost by receiving votes in the Day poll. The night poll is for giving scrap to people. So in this poll we're voting for who we think should be given the scrap from Jack's ship.

[JiwonMeganPark]

Tedxtr, Jiwon, Long Con in case you're wondering.

Why did you think I am mafia :<

[JiwonMeganPark]

I don't understand, how do we lose scraps? By voting anyone to execute? Do we execute by the poll on the thread?

Scrap is lost by receiving votes in the Day poll. The night poll is for giving scrap to people. So in this poll we're voting for who we think should be given the scrap from Jack's ship.

Thank you~

[Sloonei]

I changed my vote to ted for the sake of spread. he town

[JiwonMeganPark]

You have to have the vote at the end of the day or everytime you get a vote you lose scrap..?

[JiwonMeganPark]

Your scrap count today is as follows:

You start with 10.
If you voted Day 0 you earned 3.
You received one per vote Day 0.

Did I gain scrap for voting ted talk at the beginning?

[JiwonMeganPark]

Who is long con?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sloonei u play i read

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I changed my vote to ted for the sake of spread. he town

Is this for real

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Who is long con?

He is Long Con

[JiwonMeganPark]

Sorry I didn't see their name lolololol

[Sloonei]

I changed my vote to ted for the sake of spread. he town

Is this for real

... yes? Why wouldn't it be?

[Sloonei]

Sloonei u play i read

I would expect that to be the formula, yes.

[JiwonMeganPark]

Jack do you want to lock town each other and just ignore all scum tells in favour of destroying the game if we're right? I like the odds personally.

I don't believe mac would have confidence to say this to their partner to be honest. But there is a traitor mafia role I think, it could be them? Or is it serial killer? The ship at the bottomest.

[Sloonei]

Sorry I didn't see their name lolololol

Why is Long Con the only person whose name you didn't read?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I changed my vote to ted for the sake of spread. he town

Is this for real

... yes? Why wouldn't it be?

Where’s my scrap sloonei

[Sloonei]

I changed my vote to ted for the sake of spread. he town

Is this for real

... yes? Why wouldn't it be?

Where’s my scrap sloonei

In space

[JiwonMeganPark]

So, apparently, this setup favours town hunting, which is better as a whole given that 75% of the time you're probably going to be right about your town leans. Thus, we should actively seek out town slots that we consider to be very obvious towns.

Why? After a ship's death, scraps will be scattered and during the night phase, the person with the most votes will receive those scraps in order to purchase and upgrade parts of their ship.

I will attempt to go for town hunting as it proved to be a solid method for myself. If I get to a scum lean on the line, I'll let it be known, but it's mostly going to be town hunting.

I feel like a town wouldn't need to announce they are townhunting if they were townhunting. Also a fun fact, tedx didn't do any townhunting even until at this point on quote.

[tedxtr]

It would be funny if both Soneji and jiwon flip mafia and I railed both of them by commenting on that post of mine lmao

[JiwonMeganPark]

I thought votes were done on poll, why do people vote on thread too?

[Sloonei]

I thought votes were done on poll, why do people vote on thread too?

We call our votes in the thread so that everyone can see it when it happens.

[JiwonMeganPark]

Soneji, Dragomir/nutella, and Long Con have multiple votes.

Does anybody town read any of those players?

Nutella is lock lock lock lock lock town. The other two are specifically the two players that I wanted to be the focus of D1 in my path forward post. Which was always going to happen. Because even though people don't actually listen to me, they still do what I want.

I feel like I should sheep you instead of Nanook

[JiwonMeganPark]

I hope there is Mac left after tonight actually,

Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I think this is a fair take.

I don’t suspect Soneji for asking me to clarify or think it was pointless.

HOLY FUCK CODE RED THIS IS NOT A DRILL JACK IS ACTUALLY SCUM

Got a feeling he is the target of mafia or will be at some point

[JiwonMeganPark]

What happens if mafia kills the person we give scraps?

[JiwonMeganPark]

So jack was voting for Long con even though soneji had 3 votes, right? That makes me suspect Soneji.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What happens if mafia kills the person we give scraps?

oops

[Sloonei]

So jack was voting for Long con even though soneji had 3 votes, right? That makes me suspect Soneji.

Long Con had the most votes until a moment before the deadline. A bunch of people switched from Long Con to Jack at the last minute.

[JiwonMeganPark]

Who switched when?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm good with scrap going to any of the three hot potato tossers: Mac, nutella, Nanook. Just WIFOM the mafia about the kill, they don't know what they're doing anyway

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That’s why scrap should be spread between Mac/nutella/myself


Not ted.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is scrap split when it's tied? Asking players first

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It was N0, I assume it will be here as well

[JaggedJimmyJay]

k

[tedxtr]

That’s why scrap should be spread between Mac/nutella/myself


Not ted.

Not like I'm gonna get killed when I'm barely trying, and I also am fairly townie. Not sure I follow.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm getting Nanook in on the scrap

[Sloonei]

Each time a ship is destroyed by Day vote, it loses half its value and the remaining half is up for grabs. There will be a Night poll to determine who shall receive scrap, and it will be divided up in accordance with the poll results. Each vote in the Night poll is of equal weight.

[Sloonei]

That’s why scrap should be spread between Mac/nutella/myself


Not ted.

Not like I'm gonna get killed when I'm barely trying, and I also am fairly townie. Not sure I follow.

He's jealous that I'm voting to give you scrap instead of him

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sloonei who's mafia?