FTL Mafia [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think Sloonei / myo is a solid combo for a scum team?

It's at least a valid fit in transparent terms. Sloonei has given Myo town reads without much development.

[nutella]

I think Sloonei / myo is a solid combo for a scum team?

It's at least a valid fit in transparent terms. Sloonei has given Myo town reads without much development.

from a quick review of her iso, I think it's actually fairly unlikely for her to be teammates with Sloonei based on interactions, though not outside the realm of possibility. I think Soneji is a better fit.

[Sloonei]

I’m just suffering from complete mental exhaustion, tbh. My life for the last three months has been insomnia and typing words at a laptop screen. Now I have a chance to break free of that. In my heart I still want to be playing mafia games, but I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put the work in that comes with doing that. My brain needs a break.

[JiwonMeganPark]

Sorry about activity but I'll read~~

[JiwonMeganPark]

I’m just suffering from complete mental exhaustion, tbh. My life for the last three months has been insomnia and typing words at a laptop screen. Now I have a chance to break free of that. In my heart I still want to be playing mafia games, but I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put the work in that comes with doing that. My brain needs a break.

So we are voting here, right?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: jiwon] aubergine

[nutella]

I'm gonna need both of you to elaborate on how you came to those conclusions about each other.

[Long Con]

I’m just suffering from complete mental exhaustion, tbh. My life for the last three months has been insomnia and typing words at a laptop screen. Now I have a chance to break free of that. In my heart I still want to be playing mafia games, but I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put the work in that comes with doing that. My brain needs a break.

So we are voting here, right?

Hard to see this as anything other than blatant opportunism... or top-drawer humour!

[Sloonei]

I'm gonna need both of you to elaborate on how you came to those conclusions about each other.

Pure reactionary response to her latest post.

[Long Con]

I’m just suffering from complete mental exhaustion, tbh. My life for the last three months has been insomnia and typing words at a laptop screen. Now I have a chance to break free of that. In my heart I still want to be playing mafia games, but I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put the work in that comes with doing that. My brain needs a break.

So we are voting here, right?

Hard to see this as anything other than blatant opportunism... or top-drawer humour!

Or maybe Jiwon is just from a more predatory Mafia culture.

[Long Con]

I think Sloonei / myo is a solid combo for a scum team?

Are you asking us a question or telling us your opinion?

[tedxtr]

I put the ? at the end because it seemed all too easy and I’m very unsure of Sloonei mafia.

Would bet more on one of sig / soneji / nutella + Myo

Which prompts me to ask people’s opinions on Myo

[Long Con]

Jiwon -

She's town. A lot of their posts strike me as weird things mafia would post about, if she were a mafia.

I had a look at Jiwon's ISO. It was familiar, because I already did that Frakes question collection. I don't see anything that strikes me as Alignment-Indicatively-weird - what was too weird to be Mafia, and why?

[Long Con]

I put the ? at the end because it seemed all too easy and I’m very unsure of Sloonei mafia.

Would bet more on one of sig / soneji / nutella + Myo

Which prompts me to ask people’s opinions on Myo

Please remind me why nutella?

[Sloonei]

i've decided that nutella is always town in this game.
so is mac.
jay is town 90% of the time.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Myo is mafia.

[Long Con]

i've decided that nutella is always town in this game.
so is mac.
jay is town 90% of the time.

Jack feels like a civilian. Would not lynch.

Why should we put stock in your statements?

[Long Con]

I put the ? at the end because it seemed all too easy and I’m very unsure of Sloonei mafia.

Would bet more on one of sig / soneji / nutella + Myo

Which prompts me to ask people’s opinions on Myo

I think myo's ISO looks townish. Like this post:

Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

I like this post, it feels honest and townish.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

[Long Con]

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

There we go.

[tedxtr]

LC I’ve been looking for someone to break down what that post means for a long time

Can you do that for me?

[Sloonei]

Spoiler: show

the problem with this game right now is that all the posts have been made by like five people.

hey everyone else, come talk about the talkative losers.

After last game, I’m willing to vote off quiet people. torturous endgame.

Colin, Drago and Daisy haven’t posted at all.

Voting for an inactive player at this stage in this game would be like throwing darts at a board while blindfolded and drunk.

Counterpoint: Losing to inactive wolves hurts my self esteem and those things don’t make me significantly worse at darts.

More serious counterpoint: So let’s lynch off false memories? Huh?

I'm interpreting these posts to mean that Jack definitely had at least one quiet teammate.

[nutella]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

[nutella]

LC I’ve been looking for someone to break down what that post means for a long time

Can you do that for me?

I think she is disagreeing with Ted's push of Soneji, and agreeing with Soneji's pressure on Jack to state his own takes instead of attributing them to someone else.

[tedxtr]

I put the ? at the end because it seemed all too easy and I’m very unsure of Sloonei mafia.

Would bet more on one of sig / soneji / nutella + Myo

Which prompts me to ask people’s opinions on Myo

Please remind me why nutella?

It’s not to say she’s scum, I take a PoE approach.

[Sloonei]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Soneji is in G-man's game and hasn't posted since this day phase started in there either.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think we're generally being too kind with town reads here, and it's understandable. We have next to nothing to work with.

But if someone has not done anything, I'm not call them town. The end. I don't like Myo's tone, and I don't think they have promoted an effective hunt.

[tedxtr]

LC I’ve been looking for someone to break down what that post means for a long time

Can you do that for me?

I think she is disagreeing with Ted's push of Soneji, and agreeing with Soneji's pressure on Jack to state his own takes instead of attributing them to someone else.

Hmmm, then that would look like a pretty bad w/w interaction for Jack and Myo (as in, it seems weird she’d treat a partner like that)

Meh, I might hop on the Soneji train based on my analysis of his first post but idk

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also, that post LC brought up looks slimy to me in its connection with Jack. Ted validly assessed that Myo doesn't even know what salad is, but they still felt inclined to get involved with that exchange. Jack was in that exchange. TMI.

[tedxtr]

She could make that post about a partner, I just find it...unlikely.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To me it's token distancing. She indirectly suggests Jack did something off, but does nothing with that assertion and functionally cannot pursue it. She doesn't even know what it means.

[tedxtr]

I guess she could’ve made that post in the sense that she didn’t even know what salad is, so she’d have to go from the assumption that Jack is worthy of being pushed even though she didn’t really push him.

I think I’m still keeping my vote, I don’t find it all that clearing.

[nutella]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Soneji is in G-man's game and hasn't posted since this day phase started in there either.

Well the silencing item was purchased and the only other person who hasn't posted today is motobot I think, and he seems a less likely target. I guess there's the possibility that whoever bought the item hasn't used it yet, but unless Soneji posts I'm assuming it hit him.

[tedxtr]

Basically what Jay said

[Sloonei]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Soneji is in G-man's game and hasn't posted since this day phase started in there either.

Well the silencing item was purchased and the only other person who hasn't posted today is motobot I think, and he seems a less likely target. I guess there's the possibility that whoever bought the item hasn't used it yet, but unless Soneji posts I'm assuming it hit him.

Why do you assume it’s been used?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

motobot said he is sick today.

[nutella]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Soneji is in G-man's game and hasn't posted since this day phase started in there either.

Well the silencing item was purchased and the only other person who hasn't posted today is motobot I think, and he seems a less likely target. I guess there's the possibility that whoever bought the item hasn't used it yet, but unless Soneji posts I'm assuming it hit him.

Why do you assume it’s been used?

because why wouldn't it be, and because soneji hasn't posted

[Long Con]

LC I’ve been looking for someone to break down what that post means for a long time

Can you do that for me?

Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Eh, I feel that this deserves a little push-back. Couching your own opinions in someone else's reasoning strikes me as creating
'distance' between yourself and your actions. The follow-up feels warranted to get Jackofhearts2005's actual thoughts/reasoning without basing it on outside logic that he's not claiming as his own.

Here's what it means to me. Myo saw ted's criticism of Soneji, and realized he disagreed with it because Myo felt the same way as Soneji about Jack's original statement. Unless Myo and Soneji are the other two wolves, I give Myo town points for it. Wolf Myo doesn't need to save town Soneji, and the statement just *rings true* to me. I think it's genuine, and it's town-motivated. PLUS, of course, Myo is also taking pressure OFF Soneji and putting more on Jack. If it's a complex "help one teammate and bus another" then so be it. That's not what I think.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Here's what it means to me. Myo saw ted's criticism of Soneji, and realized he disagreed with it because Myo felt the same way as Soneji about Jack's original statement. Unless Myo and Soneji are the other two wolves, I give Myo town points for it. Wolf Myo doesn't need to save town Soneji, and the statement just *rings true* to me. I think it's genuine, and it's town-motivated. PLUS, of course, Myo is also taking pressure OFF Soneji and putting more on Jack. If it's a complex "help one teammate and bus another" then so be it. That's not what I think.

How can Myo possibly agree with the point if she doesn't know what salad is?

[Long Con]

Also, that post LC brought up looks slimy to me in its connection with Jack. Ted validly assessed that Myo doesn't even know what salad is, but they still felt inclined to get involved with that exchange. Jack was in that exchange. TMI.

Understanding of salad is not necessary to express the opinion Myo did. It's about understanding why Soneji was placing pressure, and agreeing with it... and disagreeing with the criticism of Soneji.

[nutella]

Here's what it means to me. Myo saw ted's criticism of Soneji, and realized he disagreed with it because Myo felt the same way as Soneji about Jack's original statement. Unless Myo and Soneji are the other two wolves, I give Myo town points for it. Wolf Myo doesn't need to save town Soneji, and the statement just *rings true* to me. I think it's genuine, and it's town-motivated. PLUS, of course, Myo is also taking pressure OFF Soneji and putting more on Jack. If it's a complex "help one teammate and bus another" then so be it. That's not what I think.

How can Myo possibly agree with the point if she doesn't know what salad is?

I thought it had been explained at that point. But even if it wasn't, I feel like it's reasonable to agree that Jack should have provided his own opinions rather than making a vague statement about something someone else (me) would say.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't agree. I don't trust Myo. This conversation inspires nothing in me.

[nutella]

Like, *what salad is* doesn't actually even enter into Soneji's point. He was just asking Jack to give his own take. Even if that was before the salad tell was explained to myo, she could have just figured it was a tell of some sort, and not knowing what it was wouldn't preclude her from thinking that Jack should have clarified whether it was his own stance or not.

[tedxtr]

Tbf, if I compare it to the rest of Myo’s ISO, that post looks good precisely because it was correct on Jack

The other reads she made were just going through the motions, like I said

[nutella]

All that said I don't find it implausible for Myo to be a Jack teammate from that interaction.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Myo has one read all game (Mac town) until I poke everyone with GTH reads, and makes one half-negative comment tangentially at Jack. Not moved.

[Sloonei]

I believe Soneji is silenced. There's a chance that it was a deliberate attempt to prevent his lynch today, but I'd feel dirty lynching him without letting him say anything for himself.

[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Soneji is in G-man's game and hasn't posted since this day phase started in there either.

Well the silencing item was purchased and the only other person who hasn't posted today is motobot I think, and he seems a less likely target. I guess there's the possibility that whoever bought the item hasn't used it yet, but unless Soneji posts I'm assuming it hit him.

Why do you assume it’s been used?

because why wouldn't it be, and because soneji hasn't posted

We don’t know who bought it, only that it has been bought. “Soneji was silenced so we wouldn’t lynch him today” feels like a huge stretch, especially when that player has evidently been absent from the website in general. If the mafia team bought it, it’s a powerful tool in their hands and they might be inclined to save it for later use. If a civilian bought it, they might have done so just to prevent it from ever being used at all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't trust sig either. I don't really understand people's views in this game. That doesn't make me right, but I don't get it.

[tedxtr]

I’m still keeping my vote there. Not moving.

[Sloonei]

In other words: I don’t want to rule soneji out as a suspect today.