Escape From Trump Tower [GAME OVER]

[Funnygurl555]

Hey FG, what other reads do you have? Anything you want to talk to me about?

i have a firmer town read on long con now, if the effort in making a case against you is not something he puts in as a wolf

i'm not getting people scum reading juliets. why would a wolf be paranoid about someone else, y'no? though i haven't payed attention to anything spirit has said so

i guess i gotta actually dig in and read, lol

[Funnygurl555]

Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

so you felt good about juliets but wanna lynch her sub first?

fr tho nuking soneji is likely a Good Move(tm)

[Funnygurl555]

Crackshot baddie list: Sloonei, MP, and Jack

Delimiters of this would be LC, Nanook and Epi.

when you see this could you tell me about your read on jack?

ik he's dead and town, but could you tell me how you got there?

[Tangrowth]

Hey FG, what other reads do you have? Anything you want to talk to me about?

i have a firmer town read on long con now, if the effort in making a case against you is not something he puts in as a wolf

i'm not getting people scum reading juliets. why would a wolf be paranoid about someone else, y'no? though i haven't payed attention to anything spirit has said so

i guess i gotta actually dig in and read, lol

juliets is admittedly a difficult read for me. sprityo is a shrug.

[Tangrowth]

I did speak to several things *peculiar* in juliets's ISO though, like the Sloonei fixation, her read of Epi combined with "it's a tough read" multiple times that reads like ... unnecessary?

I hope Nanook and others can better word their thoughts too, because even in my POE right now I don't feel any slam dunks.

[Funnygurl555]

i did some isos and tsp is just town for me atm lmao. maybe he's a wild wolf who wants to try out something new

i don't.... town read 112. idk, others are though. but based on the laws of wagonomics(not real), there's always a wolf who votes off wagon(usually true). so.

wilgy seemed fine i wonder how that wagon came up last eod

I did speak to several things *peculiar* in juliets's ISO though, like the Sloonei fixation, her read of Epi combined with "it's a tough read" multiple times that reads like ... unnecessary?

I hope Nanook and others can better word their thoughts too, because even in my POE right now I don't feel any slam dunks.

maybe i'll iso her too

[Tangrowth]

i did some isos and tsp is just town for me atm lmao. maybe he's a wild wolf who wants to try out something new

i don't.... town read 112. idk, others are though. but based on the laws of wagonomics(not real), there's always a wolf who votes off wagon(usually true). so.

wilgy seemed fine i wonder how that wagon came up last eod

I did speak to several things *peculiar* in juliets's ISO though, like the Sloonei fixation, her read of Epi combined with "it's a tough read" multiple times that reads like ... unnecessary?

I hope Nanook and others can better word their thoughts too, because even in my POE right now I don't feel any slam dunks.

maybe i'll iso her too

Yeah, even if it's super quick a Wilgy and/or juliets ISO with your perspective would be helpful.

[Tangrowth]

I can't do any more digging atm due to major multitasking until EoD, but I'll try to do whatever I can in realtime.

[Funnygurl555]

I also liked Epi coming in and poking/prodding people. We don't agree on Sloonei right now but that's ok, I just like Epi's behavior. Seems towny.

Does Epi tend to be more reserved or agreeable as scum? Any notable differences?

Well, Epi is a tough one. He will tell you he doesn't have a specific "town" or "scum" way of playing and that may be true but I've had some success reading him correctly as town. I erred though in GOC reading him town when he was scum (I did not have a good game this year in GOC). One thing I learned from that game is when he argues illogically he is likely to be scum. He is a tough one to read.

this post doesn't strike me as that odd. like, it's not like she was asked to come up with a read or anything-- she was just asked for some meta info. idk if paranoia is normal for her though or posting like this is ai for obvious reasons

i also already iso'd wilgy he's fine imo tho if he answers my q that would help

[Funnygurl555]

ok i'll explain my thoughts on 112 more too:

her initial posts suspecting wilgy and sloonei looked good, but her posts about strategy (e.g. how she hunts wolves, lynching dys, thunderdome between sloonei and wilgy) were sketchy. first of all, i know what some of y'all might say, but posting about mechanics/strategy and stuff is a great way to engage in thread without solving. also, lynching dys and lynching beween sloonei and wilgy without considering that new posts could change our reads is just like... wolves' reads are static, or can be static. unless town wants to lose i can't say the same thing

[Scirrus]

I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.

That conclusion doesn't sound like juliets to me?

Why not? Do you think Juliets would but a vote on one of the main wagons instead? What conclusion do you expect her to have reached?

[Scirrus]

Spoiler: show

These is pretty much all Day 1 Reads save for Epi’s read on me

112 - Their posts seemed fine but didn’t stand out too much to me, had a null-town lean but them not being around for EoD gives me less of an impression on them.

DrWilgy - Feel like most of their reads have been pretty much consensus and not very spicy, except for the early push on M+7. His EoD was kinda strange, more purely self-pres than Sloon/LC. I liked some of his takes about refusing to lynch strong players until later days and I feel like there was another one i liked but idr

Dizzy - Earlier I was actually thinking he could still be mafia BS’ing a 3P claim bc of his weird 3P philosophy but i’m over that now. Still a little annoyed that he’s not really solving with us but whatever. I get it.

Epignosis - Still town. Everyone reads him as town as well so I’m hoping this is just one of them freebies. I bet he’s not going to like that I said that lol. Tbh I like his push and questions on me. Little does he know that I’m not mafia, I just suck lol

Funnygirl - She seems alright. I feel like her tone has been good and her reaction at the end of day to her vote switch seemed genuine. If she’s some scum mastermind guys pls let me know kthx.

Long Con - I think town now, his reaction to everything going on at EoD just makes me think he’s alone.

M+7 - I liked his initial energy and posting at the beginning but he’s trending down a bit for me. His EoD felt kinda strange. I think it’s likely one of he and wilgy are mafia, I feel like their interactions are t/m. Will prob stew more on this because I haven’t really gone Day 2 Posts yet

MacDougall - Not much there but leaning town for dumb reasons

Nanook - Jack gave him a townread, Nanook linked to his site for meta there and I believe what he says about it because ya I just do.

Sloonei - I still find him difficult to read but I would lean GTH town, I think. I just like how he was during EoD. My read isn’t much more developed than that as of now, sorry

Soneji - Only game related thing they’ve done is push on Sloonei and ask about LC being allergic to voting. Sloonei was the main wagon at the time. Pretty meh.

Juliets - I found juliets towny for the most part (despite my initial scum lean at the beginning lol) and I believe her reason for not being around at EOD.

TSP - don’t really seem to care about a town core or town reads much from what i’ve seen. They have their tunnel on juliets, “i’m not pro-sloonei but i’m anti-anti sloonei”, “i’d lynch wilgy”, “guess i’ll go for long con” not really vibin’ dawg

Hey Scirrus, can you talk to me about any reads that have changed since this?

Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy idc about

[Scirrus]

Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

so you felt good about juliets but wanna lynch her sub first?

fr tho nuking soneji is likely a Good Move(tm)

is this why you wanna lynch me now? I don't see any other indication in your posts thats suggests you would wanna me lynch me

i did feel good about juliets originally but now i'm not really sure, and I didn't like what sprityo has contributed so far so yeah back into my POE

[Sloonei]

I voted for scirrus. I’ll probably be around for the deadline, but i’m gonna be in and out for a while.

Scirrus and sprityo/juliets are the closest thing i’ve got to tangible suspects at this point, and three of my strongest town reads are voting for scirrus at the moment.

What has happened to wilgy?

[Scirrus]

This wagon is bad you should all feel bad

[Sloonei]

This wagon is bad you should all feel bad

Convince me. Vote for someone.

[Scirrus]

If i end up getting lynched, I WILL flip green FG/Spirit could be a possible team

[Scirrus]

Dizzy idc about

Any thoughts Dizzy? Or does a Scirrus mislynch sound pretty ok with you?

[Funnygurl555]

Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

so you felt good about juliets but wanna lynch her sub first?

fr tho nuking soneji is likely a Good Move(tm)

is this why you wanna lynch me now? I don't see any other indication in your posts thats suggests you would wanna me lynch me

i did feel good about juliets originally but now i'm not really sure, and I didn't like what sprityo has contributed so far so yeah back into my POE

not the response I wanted

[Scirrus]

Maybe i am barking up the wrong tree

BUT THEN WHO

Who’s the person you feel the most uncertain about in this game, or have paid the least attention to?

Let me think

I have no opinion on spirityo and honestly I should ISO them bc I don't remember any of their posts lol. Juilets I had as town but a lot of that was people's meta on her. Bad, I know.
Soneji it's hard to be certain as well. Honestly could lynch him on principle of not being useful

112 I feel null and need to pay more attention too. I think the reasons people were pushing her were weak tho

Wilgy is up in the air, had it in my mind that he could be a likely wolf if MP is town, but honestly? I don't think they are wolf/wolf if that means anything

TSP's posts I find hard to read into, i'm not sure about them being scummy anymore tho

Spirit/Soneji/112/TSP/Wilgy in that order maybe?

I feel good about: Epi, LC, Mac, Funnygurl seems alright? I feel good about you now too. Same with Nanook although I think we're pretty different in mafia style/philosophy lol

MPlus i've paid a lot of attention to

Dizzy idc about

so you felt good about juliets but wanna lynch her sub first?

fr tho nuking soneji is likely a Good Move(tm)

is this why you wanna lynch me now? I don't see any other indication in your posts thats suggests you would wanna me lynch me

i did feel good about juliets originally but now i'm not really sure, and I didn't like what sprityo has contributed so far so yeah back into my POE

not the response I wanted

touche bc this isn't the response i wanted

[Funnygurl555]

guess we're fighting

[Scirrus]

How about you actually explain your flip on me?

[Funnygurl555]

ok scirrus let's make a deal: hows about you vote for someone you legitimately suspect instead of someone who's just in your poe

[Dyslexicon]

Any thoughts Dizzy? Or does a Scirrus mislynch sound pretty ok with you?

I mean, it's ok for me. But it is indeed a very bad lynch.

[Funnygurl555]

How about you actually explain your flip on me?

it was pressure. and you reacted suspiciously. now I stay

[Scirrus]

[mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] actually a better question is, who is actually in your POE?

[Scirrus]

This isn't productive, i should just start reading back

[Scirrus]

ok scirrus let's make a deal: hows about you vote for someone you legitimately suspect instead of someone who's just in your poe

Is voting someone in your POE not a legitimate reason? A lot of other people seem to think it's A-OK

[Funnygurl555]

Funnygurl555 actually a better question is, who is actually in your POE?

u, 112, soneji, mac, sloonei.

BOOM an answer. now change your vote or make a case on sprit. this is sus af

[Funnygurl555]

yall see the sus what is this defensiveness

[Dyslexicon]

[Dyslexicon]

Scirrus is raging to "no preference" and people still think he's scum lol. If I was town I would yell at you all. =p

[TonyStarkPrime]

It's not scirrus buds

[Funnygurl555]

Scirrus is raging to "no preference" and people still think he's scum lol. If I was town I would yell at you all. =p

i called him out on his vote tho

[Funnygurl555]

It's not scirrus buds

f INE

[Scirrus]

well that gave me little to work on

DrWilgy was a candidate for lynch yesterday but he tied with someone else that I can't tell atm.

juliets had some kind of suspicion on her and had to replace out for reasons i dont know, so I have an uphill game against me right now. I havent even read the power roles yet or what mechanics are in play, something about a keymaster and doors and numbers as shown by the nightkill post. so i guess i will have to read some of the 20 pages you guys have posted

I should point my attention to Wilgy and Sloonei because they were wagons

112 for voting a self vote off wagon

and soneji and juliets to see why juliets voted him

I'll work on that, so ill be scarce

I’m not gonna be home tonight to defend myself, off to dinner now.

I don’t like NANOOKs urgency to lynch me but if I see you tomorrow I’ll see you

I guess you can say that

I’ll be back

This is why I was meh on Sprityo. These are the 3 game-related posts he has made that don’t talk about 3P. There’s pretty much no solving going on.

And ya that's the whole basis for my vote.

It's about as much content that Soneji has. I'm fine with his lynch too, ftr. But i'm also not gonna just let myself die.

[Scirrus]

I realize I haven't talked about 112 barely at all

brb

[Scirrus]

also where tf is everyone

[Funnygurl555]

I am here

[Scirrus]

lol idk about 112. She had general consesus townreads except me and Juilets aren't anymore obviously,
surprised to see she has FG as a wolfread, Sloonei i sort of get but meh

If Juliets/sprityo is scum then I could see 112 being a potential teammate

[Epignosis]

Anyone who is voting for me I dare you to actually hop into my ENTIRE ISO and then actually explain how you think this play comes from a wolf. Not a "I don't believe you" based on a post or two.

I hate this shit MP. You make 250 posts and dare people to waste their time. Post count doesn't indicate shit other than more free time.

[Scirrus]

[mention]@112[/mention] what posts did you like from me?


...I realize I probably should have asked this earlier. On the bright side, if I don't mislynched, she gets the opportunity to answer

[Epignosis]

And so to pick apart a post or two when I have an entire body of work is just ????

I mean, I make reads based on single posts all the time, and I think they're completely legitimate, but it feels like all this effort I've been slaving for in large part to clear myself because that's a valuable part of what I can bring to the table is for naught because people don't care to actually dig deep and make a determination about it?

This is literally the fourth post in a row in which you have whined about how much you've made posts and you should get credit for effort.

No.

I don't award credit for your effort.

[Funnygurl555]

sry guys I gotta go back to scirrus

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m here between making dinner (picking up pizza), so in and out until EOD basically.

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] would be cool if you voted sprityo, yo

Same for you funny cause I think you’re kinda townie now

[Epignosis]

D2 MP7 reads pre-ISO

Never lynch today
Nanook

Strongly prefer not to lynch today
Epignosis
Long Con

Somewhat prefer not to lynch today
Sloonei
MacDougall

Pre-ISO POE
112
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
juliets / sprityo
Scirrus
Soneji
TSP / nova

My preference is to ISO my POE, even if quickly, to sort them effectively.

I still feel like this is a Nanook with a town agenda. Having seen him be scum in Corona, I'm not feeling parallels. He did a lot to disrupt the flow of solving in that game. I don't feel that here at all.

Epi is trying my patience and honestly his solving would be really easy for scum to do (latch onto this player, then that player, etc.), but I still think he's probably be boneheaded, I also think he provides a lot of value to the town even when I vehemently disagree with him, but I can't shake off that he's been a bit word-twisty and I'm not quite sure what that means.

Long Con's behavior is an enigma to me, but a determination has to be made. I don't think he goes through all that effort to arrive at the scum case on me to have missed a minor detail and then subsequently drop it. That doesn't sound like scum Long Con to me, that sounds like a town Long Con who genuinely suspected me and wanted to break open the game with a smoking gun.

I don't want to lynch Sloonei or Mac even though I don't have as much a feel for them as I would like, but my gut likes them enough to pass on them for today.

Honestly everyone else can potentially burn today. I had a very high bar for clearing this POE. I'm going to look at these folks' ISOs now.

And I'm going to try your patience even more. Stop telling me people they should respect your number of posts. Fuck your number of posts. Learn how to consolidate your words.

[Funnygurl555]

I’m here between making dinner (picking up pizza), so in and out until EOD basically.

@M Plus 7 would be cool if you voted sprityo, yo

Same for you funny cause I think you’re kinda townie now

but why? im back on soneji

[Epignosis]

Sloonei do you suspect me or not? I don't think you've given a clear stance on me yet

Who would you most like to lynch right now?

I do not have a town read on you. If I were to make a rainbow list you’d be a light shade of orange. To be clear, this is closer to an absence of a town read than a direct scum read.

This is our first game together and I’m not putting in nearly the amount of work I normally would to developing my reads, so I don’t have a firm stance. Likewise I do not have a clear lynch priority at this point. There are several town reads and a handful of players who are distinctly not town reads.

Why are you voting there then?

Who is red for you?

[TonyStarkPrime]

The arguments against MP largely also apply to Scirrus