Escape From Trump Tower [GAME OVER]

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think it's just nanook to be honest

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm sort of getting a wolf Nanook feel from his behavior today, it feels more similar to wolf Nanook in COVID game after I subbed in and then died as his wolfmate after a day. Finding reasons to keep people in the POE as opposed to solving for town.

But I also understand why he might do this if he knows he's town here because then he knows it has to be one of the remaining players, so hmmm, wait, maybe this doesn't make sense.

Nanook here is ignoring me tunneling him. When I've been with him in other games and suspected him when I was wrong he borderline attempts to humiliate me.

I'm consciously trying to avoid doing that

I'm also fairly resigned to my fate tbh, most of my energy is going to trying to figure out the last mafia.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

(Also I'm fairly certain I got/get just as uh...caustic, when I'm mafia? Idk, can ask TSP maybe I think he was in endgame of covid with me IIRC)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like idk what you expect man when there's 5 players left and four of them are saying "yeah it's just Nanook, if it's not him I'm totally lost," I'm doing what I can but like...what am I supposed to do with that? Call you all idiots or something, I guess, but like...that's tiring, and I can't even really blame anyone that's reading me mafia based off sloonei interactions to be totally honest. I've played a pretty poor game, not really fair to get mad at people for scumreading me for it.

So yeah, I'll put in a token defense, but that's all I really have in me on that front. More interested in trying to help narrow things down for you guys tomorrow at this point.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I guess I can yell at you if you want, but we both know my heart won’t be in it

[MacDougall]

Yeah don't yell at me I hate that.

Just leave a good legacy. Or try to get yourself unlynched. If you're town obvs.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah don't yell at me I hate that.

Just leave a good legacy. Or try to get yourself unlynched. If you're town obvs.

That’s literally what I’m trying to do lol

[MacDougall]

Yeah don't yell at me I hate that.

Just leave a good legacy. Or try to get yourself unlynched. If you're town obvs.

That’s literally what I’m trying to do lol

So don't let me get in your way. Knock yourself out fam bam.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah don't yell at me I hate that.

Just leave a good legacy. Or try to get yourself unlynched. If you're town obvs.

That’s literally what I’m trying to do lol

So don't let me get in your way. Knock yourself out fam bam.

I have been mate, what do you think I’ve been doing today lol

Pretty sure it’s down to 112 and MP, I’d probably go MP over 112, but idk for sure

[MacDougall]

Like fine whatever I’m probably gonna die today, I’m a little disappointed cause I thought this might finally be the game I make it to an f3, but it’s whatever. I can’t even argue much cause my voting record and reads have been pretty bad, pretty sure I’ve townread and/or defended everyone alive rn at some point lolol

How do you know you'd get to f3 if you weren't yeeted here? How do you know that the game wouldn't be over with another lynch on someone else?

[MacDougall]

112 on Soneji is quite a clusterfuck.

I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.

Has Soneji posted?

Their first mention of Soneji is questioning Juliets voting there softly. No follow up that I saw.

should we just thunderdome sloonei and the doc or is infolynching bad?

We should do nothing of the sort. What are your reads?

probably something like:

Town lean:
112
Epignosis
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Scirrus
sprityo

Neutralish:
M Plus 7
Soneji
TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall

Wolf lean:
Funnygurl555
Sloonei
DrWilgy

3P:
Dyslexicon

Has Soneji pure null.

@112 are you caught up? What are your reads looking like now?

@112

I'm caught up, although I haven't read thoroughly.

I still think you're town. I think Nanook is town. I would put sprityo here but we lynched him.

I don't know what to make of Mac as he's not playing like anything I've seen from him before. I'd lean town because I expect he puts in more effort if he's wolfing, but this isn't a strong lean at this point.

Tony's kind of suspicious. He says he's playing a weak game and from my experience it's scum who are more conscious of not participating well.

Sloonei has been in the lynch discussions since D1 and I get the feeling he's just coasting by/trying not to die instead of actively championing any reads he has.

I haven't read a single post from Soneji this game that I can recall.

And I find Long Con and MP+ suspicious but more so Long Con.

Mentions hasn't read a single Soneji post in this wall. Does nothing about it.

If I had to make a list right now it'd be

112
Nanook
Scirrus
Mac
Soneji
Tony
Wilgy
FG
MP+
LC
Sloonei

Dizzy

Has Soneji smack bang in the centre. Sloonei at the bottom though.

That's literally everything.

[MacDougall]

Let's derp and look at post counts.

MP - 533 posts. Lol town.
Nanook - 201 posts.
TonyStarkPrime - 175 posts, as a sub
112 - 92 posts
Mac - 91 posts (92 when I make this).

Sadly sort by postcount doesn't quite work here because I have low posted more than any other game I've ever played. But maybe it jut does aside from me?

MP and Nook are both effectively clearing TSP as their top town.

TSP is trying to just clear 112/Mac.

Nanook considers his POE 112/MP.

I am just laser focused on Nanook and clearing everyone like a moron.

There's nobody entertaining Nanook town. It feels... wrong. The mafia knew they were going to lose Soneji at some point right? I haven't been paying loads of attention but everyone knew who was dying to the Dizzy role didn't they? They wouldn't get POE clamped like this would they? They had time to prep to send their deepwolf deep? Surely the last mafia here isn't just found like this?

Ugh I hate that I have to look at shit.

[MacDougall]

Nook on Soneji probs even more of a clusterfuck.

Actually yeah @M Plus 7 curious why soneji is out of your red POE?

Questions MP as to why he doesn't have Soneji in the POE. Hasn't even referenced the existence of Soneji up until this post so why does he care specifically about this?

Moving my vote to long con

could you tell me stuff about your feelings on LC, and do you know anything about his meta? Would def be helpful lol

I know nothing meaningful about his meta beyond “how the fuck do I read this guy outside of POE?”

I think he’s been weird, he’s always a little weird. He’s the person I mind killing the least today outside of possibly AFK Soneji, but I haven’t really played with Soneji before and I want to.

Brings up Soneji being AFK unprovoked in order to tell us that he actually doesn't want to kill him.

Fuck I totally forgot soneji was in this game.

Uh yeah we might be at the point where they need to be killed, they haven't posted since D1 and haven't voted since N1, so. Kinda getting close to the tipping point where we either agree to never kill that slot or we kill it off.

How do you just forget someone is in the game lol. Like this isn't even believable.

I am prepared to sheep wilgy and soneji and funny unquestioningly from this point forward, don’t let me down plz

Last mention.

Ugh.

[MacDougall]

Nanook do you know why Dizzy might have failed to lock you up?

If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.

If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.

Explain?

Look, Dizzy said it probably doesn’t mean much so I’m willing to pull off on this. But my initial instinct was that given most of the roles are vanilla, a failure from Dizzy points to some sort of mechanical reason. These can be best explained by the scum role.

Has this been debunked or what? Can we just lynch Nook off this and cross fingers? Fuck.

[MacDougall]

TSP on Soneji

@Long Con who should I be voting for today if not you?

Obviously MP comes to mind. How do you feel about Epignosis' case on Soneji?

This is such a twilight zone post. Reading “how do you feel about Epi’s case on Soneji” made me question if I’ve actually been tracking with this game

What

I scroll up and there are 4 votes of Soneji and 4 votes on MP. What has happened? And then Rod Serling comes on screen

What

I scroll up and there are 4 votes of Soneji and 4 votes on MP. What has happened? And then Rod Serling comes on screen

There are not 4 votes on Soneji. Just two.

Also none on MP.

twilight zone reference. LC asked about the Epi case on Soneji which threw me off.

What

Okay let's work this out.

good:
Me/LC/Mac/Nanook/"Dizzy"/FG(assuming scum scirrus OR town sloonei)/MP(assuming I don't go back later and change my mind)

bad:
wilgy/sloonei/scirrus

others: 112/soneji

I think we have likely two mislynches left. I think the best course of action is thus to link the spots it's hard to get a good grasp on -- thus far 112/soneji -- as to not bring those into M/LYLO. I have no good reasons to townread 112 or soneji at this point. I really cannot get down to a brain level where I can really analyze sloonei or scirrus right now, but this is a start.

So.

If you townread 112 or soneji, please let me know why.

Yeah finally someone actually looks fucking town through Soneji

I think it’s maybe Scirrus. I’m behind on required reading but I’ll scan the iso next time I’m on computer. It’s almost never FG or Soneji, we can reevaluate that later as necessary.

I mean this is fair I guess. I thought 112/Soneji was my never rescind towncore after Sloonei died so fuck it who cares.

This is the towniest so far I guess. Yay.

[MacDougall]

I no longer have a 112 scumread, someone tell me a better place to vote

How about @Soneji? Lol.

First mention of Soneji.

MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
Scirrus

Town lean -- [would prefer not to lynch]
juliets
Nanook

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Dyslexicon
Long Con
MacDougall
nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
Jack
Sloonei
Soneji

Uh second mention of Soneji. So he's just basically scumreading Soneji zero fucks given and has said nothing about it. Sloonei and Soneji are both bottom of the bottom tier. Okay you're a genius?

Is Soneji always this quiet? It's been so long since I played with him I can't remember.

Si.

If I recall correctly Ji tends to big post between longer periods of break.

Yeah it depends but he can very much be a giant wall kind of guy.

Soneji brand fluff. K.

Updated MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
juliets
Nanook
Scirrus

Let's give X another day here -- [would prefer not to lynch]
Funnygurl
Jack
MacDougall
Sloonei

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Soneji
TSP / nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Long Con

No explanation now Soneji is moved up a slot. Sloonei is up two slots. Okay so not so good.

Updated MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
juliets
Nanook
Scirrus

Let's give X another day here -- [would prefer not to lynch]
Funnygurl
Jack
MacDougall
Sloonei

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Soneji
TSP / nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Long Con

MP, could you expand a little on why Soneji is in your upper POE and Long Con in your lower? The only difference I see is Long Con has been around more but not posted thoughts on people (actually he may have posted a thought about someone but not many).

You have part of it. I expect Soneji to lurk and then post a giant wall, and I'd rather wait and see what he does. Long Con has made a post reading Wilgy as town, so I'm holding him to a higher standard of reads ever since he made it evident that he's here and paying attention.

This is pretty shit ngl. Why is that a reason to go from wanting to lynch him to not. Stfu.

I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.

It's not exactly +EV to let him live necessarily, but it could be argued that it's -EV to kill one of your potentially best game solvers and self-resolving town players on Day 1, yes.

I don't like you anymore Satan.

juliets, why exactly are you voting for Soneji?

Your Soneji interactions are deplorable.

N1 MP7 Legacy reads

Strong town
juliets
Epignosis

Moderate town
Funnygurl
Nanook

Slight town
Jack
112
Scirrus

Not sure -- GTH town lean
Sloonei
MacDougall
TSP / nova
DrWilgy

Not sure -- GTH scum lean
Long Con
Soneji

3p Dizzy
Dyslexicon

Not entirely sure I'll be back before Night 1 is over, here is where I am at right now.

Fixed

Soneji's place on MP's readslist is like a fucking snakes and ladders game. He has yet to directly interact with Soneji once up to this point. Quote a single Soneji post. Or ask Soneji a single fucking question.

D2 MP7 reads

Moderate town
Epignosis
Funnygurl
Nanook
juliets / sprityo

Slight town
Long Con

Not sure -- GTH town lean
MacDougall
Sloonei
DrWilgy

Not sure -- GTH scum lean
Soneji
Scirrus
TSP / nova

Slight scum
112

Spoiler: show

3p Dizzy
Dyslexicon

I'm not sure I have any strong town reads after all, and even though I couldn't possibly disagree with some of Epi's conclusions more, I think he's just being boneheaded and means the best. I agree with what Jack posted about Funnygurl, also I have a soul read there. Nanook seems fine to me. juliets/sprityo is a bit of an enigma but I was feeling pretty good about juliets while I was in here.

I really can't make heads or tails of LC, but I really mulled over his interactions with me and the narrow focus and I don't quite understand the agenda if he's scum after all of this. LC is admittedly a difficult player for me to read and this is mostly a centric read, so other input would be much appreciated. If Wilgy is scum though I'd want to revisit this because my gut says they could be teamed.

Obviously I need to ISO the not sure folks with higher priority and really start to form some reads on them. Mac seem distracted, Sloonei I still don't really feel a town spark from enough yet to not want to kill him but I don't really see the scum angles yet either. I keep going back and forth on Wilgy, but I feel like from a gamestate perspective that our wagons on d1 were probably v/v if I had to guess right now, especially with how quickly the Wilgy wagon formed after I declared my intention for it.

Shrug on Soneji. Scirrus is slowly dropping for me, I don't feel any sense of real solving increasingly over time, and that concerns me greatly. TSP is behaving like a weirdo, and my gut already didn't like nova that much.

I'm starting to think 112 is full of crap, so that's a thing.

At least he hasn't moved this time, but "Shrug" makes me want to beat your face in with a shovel.

D2 MP7 reads pre-ISO

Never lynch today
Nanook

Strongly prefer not to lynch today
Epignosis
Long Con

Somewhat prefer not to lynch today
Sloonei
MacDougall

Pre-ISO POE
112
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
juliets / sprityo
Scirrus
Soneji
TSP / nova

My preference is to ISO my POE, even if quickly, to sort them effectively.

I still feel like this is a Nanook with a town agenda. Having seen him be scum in Corona, I'm not feeling parallels. He did a lot to disrupt the flow of solving in that game. I don't feel that here at all.

Epi is trying my patience and honestly his solving would be really easy for scum to do (latch onto this player, then that player, etc.), but I still think he's probably be boneheaded, I also think he provides a lot of value to the town even when I vehemently disagree with him, but I can't shake off that he's been a bit word-twisty and I'm not quite sure what that means.

Long Con's behavior is an enigma to me, but a determination has to be made. I don't think he goes through all that effort to arrive at the scum case on me to have missed a minor detail and then subsequently drop it. That doesn't sound like scum Long Con to me, that sounds like a town Long Con who genuinely suspected me and wanted to break open the game with a smoking gun.

I don't want to lynch Sloonei or Mac even though I don't have as much a feel for them as I would like, but my gut likes them enough to pass on them for today.

Honestly everyone else can potentially burn today. I had a very high bar for clearing this POE. I'm going to look at these folks' ISOs now.

Man for someone who has consistently had Soneji in your POE you have done next to fucking nothing to solve the guy.

I just read through Sloonei's posts. He posted exactly 4 times yesterday (Tuesday) and hasn't posted at all today. That's not looking good. I understand he's playing another game but he's got no time at all to post in this one on the day we have EOD? I don't like it, the only question for me is whether MP7 is right and we should give him another day because his value if he's town is high. (Is that +EV? Still not 100% sure on how that term is used)

Other than Sloonei, I'm looking toward LC or Soneji for a vote. Since LC and Sloonei already have some heat I'm going to throw a vote Soneji's way.

That conclusion doesn't sound like juliets to me?

Boy doesn't like it when his POE suspect of the day Soneji gets suspicion thrown his way does he.

D2 MP7 reads post-ISO

Never lynch today
Nanook
Funnygurl

Strongly prefer not to lynch today
Long Con
TSP
MacDougall

Somewhat prefer not to lynch today
112
Sloonei
Epignosis

Post-ISO POE
Soneji
DrWilgy
Scirrus
sprityo

Short versions (by my standards) of my reads/thoughts:

- Spoke about Nanook earlier, he doesn't feel at all like scum agenda here. He actively broke up reads and stuff in the other game.
- FG is a strong town soul read.

- Long Con also spoke about earlier. He feels genuinely lost and I don't understand why he approaches the read on me the way he did here if scum.
- TSP has a healthy mix of strange posts but hunting that feels legit to me. Also if sprityo is scum I think he's clear.
- Mac obviously has other priorities but he's still poking and prodding to the best of his ability, and I liked his meta read of me, felt sincere.

- 112 I've been torn on but maybe I've been holding her to really high standards based on what I think her play should be, and her d2 felt like a genuine drop-off. After looking at the ISO I think it's more likely she has no information.
- Sloonei feels town to me, I know he has said he has less energy this game, but I've mindmelded with him about FG and he seems genuine GTH. I still have reservations but I'm not sure how much of those are paranoia and how much are due to him not having kicked it up into high gear this game, and whether that's even a fair thing for me to demand for a town read from him.
- Epi is ????. I thought this whole time he's been boneheaded townie Epi, but I really don't understand what he's actually doing to move this game forward. He banged on a drum all d1 that Sloonei was bad, d2 reads are fine. Perhaps I'm tinfoiling him, but his reads development is... linear. I'd expect a town Epi with no information to be a bit more scattered with his reads, and instead he has laser beam focus, and combined with the way I felt like he was being word-twisty, it increasingly makes me wonder if it is scum agenda. What do I know.

- Soneji *shrug*
- Wilgy felt genuinely frustrated to me during EoD yesterday, and I was thinking he seemed town due to the way the wagon formed, but otherwise I really don't know here. I've really struggled to understand where his reads are coming from. I'd like some thoughts on my quick ISO of him in particular.
- Scirrus is a tough one for me to crack. After the ISO I thought he read better to me, but... the more I mull over it all, the more the reads progressions almost seem too clean. Like a townie would be more flip-floppy. I could buy that he knows what everyone's alignments are, especially since he has displayed some TMI -- I feel like his reads list has too many town reads but in the way that I felt like he's genuinely pushed the game towards those himself but instead due to reasons that he just knows they're town. Plus I think he could be scum with Wilgy. Lastly, his treatment of me today actually smells the most opportunistic if I had to pick, and I think he jumped off to make it seem like genuine re-evaluation but I'm not sure about that.
- sprityo hasn't really done any solving other than the tilde game thing. juliets I thought felt really town during d1 based on realtime but looking at her ISO again and a lot of it sounds... stilted, like stuff she maybe wouldn't say? And I'm not sure how to think about that. The fixation on Sloonei looks potentially fabricated. Reads progressions are a bit strange, like calling Epi just town and then emphasizing how much of a tough read he is.

That feels much better. Feels and stuff. If you have questions, ask me.

Also I'm a hypocrite, demanding everyone for body of work reads about me without having done them yet myself, lmao. Thanks for putting up with my shit, you all.

Yeah keep on shruggin'.

I don't want to talk about subs, but Soneji may be resolved in a different way. I'm not super inclined to lynch the slot at this time myself, especially since this will be our first successful use of a lynch.

Please don't like my partner who is slanking. Please.

My instinct says to vote Soneji over Sloonei as far as these wagons go, but that's based on existing reads that I was hoping to reset today... oof.

Juuuuuuuicy. This is what I come for. Two scum wagons. I need to go back and check this whole section out. Juicy af. Someone has to be both of their partners during this fuckfest. Why not "instinct says but off" guy?

If someone who is here, if that is the case, could talk to me about things that would be great.

I think “case” against me is that I’m still alive and nothing else is going on. Today has been a stagnant phase. I have contributed to that stagnation.

I didn’t love a couple points in soneji’s big catch up post, but now I’m voting primarily out of self-preservation. His arguments against me and for scirrus were the points I did not like, if you want to check it out.

On it, thanks. I apologize too that I didn't end up being here.

Oh god this is insidious make it stop.

Oh fuck, I forgot Soneji, put him in green with FG.

Oh fuck, I forgot to put the mafia in the readslist. He's green. Good god man!

Everything else is readslists and lame shit.

Well that was certainly different to the other ones.

I tell you what. If MP and I are at f3 MP gonna have a hard time surviving my fury I'll say that.

[MacDougall]

Wait were there really 3 people trying to no lynch... on day 3!?

I'm gonna need a real good explanation for that.

112, Soneji. It's time to form mechatroll. Wilgy gonna get a bullet tonight and us three are gonna melt faces k?

112, Soneji, Mac towncore.

Everyone else needs to demonstrate to us that you are town.

For the record. Mac on Soneji right before your eyes lol.

[MacDougall]

You know what, I actually can't solve this shit but like I'll ride or die with TSP here too cuz that seems to be the popular thing.

MP's opinion on Soneji was as fluid as 112's gender.
Nanook and 112 had barely nothing to say about the guy. Given I also didn't, maybe I should just relate to them or something.

TSP has the one single reasonably townie thing going. What a catastrophe.

[MacDougall]

Soneji said this about 112

"It seems someone not using contractions is a scum ping for you, but you failed to point out the specific Sloonei post responding "I do not know." when pressed about who was scum. Your take on Sloonei here is just one line at the bottom, after a whole paragraph spent on a townread, to just say that you could see him as a wolf. Not that you specifically read him as one, so it seems like you're only giving a thumbs up to others push there, while distancing yourself from it. Is he your packmate?"

He doesn't do this to his teammate. 112 is clear.

[MacDougall]

So MP vs. Nook. If it's both great, we'll win anyway. If it's one of them, great we'll win anyway?

You guys should do a little thing to entertain us.

[MacDougall]

I guess right now I'd favour yeeting Nook first because Nook feels like someone who if he was town should be screaming about MP but he's not. MP is actually screaming about Nook. MP had Nook has scum as early as yesterday I think? MP doesn't feel like someone who's trying to win as the last mafia by extending the game. He's a snap lynch to whoever is alive at f3 I think? Nook feels like he's still trying to create a possible 112 mafia world which he has to do if he's mafia?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nanook do you know why Dizzy might have failed to lock you up?

If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.

If Dys is telling the truth reasonably my conclusion is that Nanook is the scum power role. If Dys is telling the truth is a big gap here.

Explain?

Look, Dizzy said it probably doesn’t mean much so I’m willing to pull off on this. But my initial instinct was that given most of the roles are vanilla, a failure from Dizzy points to some sort of mechanical reason. These can be best explained by the scum role.

Has this been debunked or what? Can we just lynch Nook off this and cross fingers? Fuck.

dizzy didn't know what doors were unlocked, so nanooks door was probably unlocked

[TonyStarkPrime]

(Also I'm fairly certain I got/get just as uh...caustic, when I'm mafia? Idk, can ask TSP maybe I think he was in endgame of covid with me IIRC)

well in covid you played it nice and then won with sneaky mechanics

[MacDougall]

Don't leave TSP we need to figure this out lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm here. How confident are you that 112 is town?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scale from 1 to 10

[TonyStarkPrime]

Soneji said this about 112

"It seems someone not using contractions is a scum ping for you, but you failed to point out the specific Sloonei post responding "I do not know." when pressed about who was scum. Your take on Sloonei here is just one line at the bottom, after a whole paragraph spent on a townread, to just say that you could see him as a wolf. Not that you specifically read him as one, so it seems like you're only giving a thumbs up to others push there, while distancing yourself from it. Is he your packmate?"

He doesn't do this to his teammate. 112 is clear.

[MacDougall]

Well you read that post and you tell me how it makes sense for one scum to accuse another scum of being packmates with the other scum? It's not impossible but the probability feels really low to me. It seems very much designed to chain 112 to Sloonei.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I very much agree with that read. But it just seems so out of left field?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don't like that I've shifted to consensus town read today for no reason honestly. I've done nothing this game except push a few terrible cases

[MacDougall]

I very much agree with that read. But it just seems so out of left field?

You mean like it feels like Soneji did that specifically so that we'd read it like this late in the game in order to wrongly clear 112 so he can win at f3?

Cuz lol yeah maybe fuck. Also keep in mind that Sloonei went over from a wagon that contained Soneji AND 112 (and myself).

[MacDougall]

I don't like that I've shifted to consensus town read today for no reason honestly. I've done nothing this game except push a few terrible cases

If it's any consolation I think like my read on you sucks here but I've got little to work with outside of both the most likey scum saying you're lock town and you saying you're lock town and that one Soneji interaction that was easily the best one anyone has. I am working with nothing lol.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah okay seems unlikely.

[MacDougall]

I did this to myself by phoning in the first 5 days I suppose. I'm not used to trying to townsolve an endgame as the slanker that finally decides to play. Uncharted waters for ya boi!

[MacDougall]

Yeah okay seems unlikely.

It's a thing to consider. If we're humouring the idea that Soneji (and the other mafia) knew Soneji was dying at some point? Is that a reasonable thing to think? I haven't been following the crazy door shenanigans like at all and have just been randomly voting for whatever.

But like that Sloonei/112 teammate accusation came when all three were still alive?

[MacDougall]

Probs got two left and it's 112 and TSP and fuck me.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I can't reasonably be convinced that Nanook isn't the right chop today, I think. I don't think I make it to F3 though so I want to have a reasonable legacy on who the third possibility.

As for that post, I can see it both ways but while all three are alive with sloonei on the chopping block it definitely looks like an attempt to make 112/sloonei a thing.

[MacDougall]

good

Unoriginal, think a baddie Sloonei does better there

I mean I’ll take it, but what?

Using the theme to crack a joke and make an entrance, meme-ing using Trump quotes feels unoriginal. It's actually something I'd be pinged about usually, like it's more prevalent for scum to break the ice that way. It's a nice way to sling some shits, and get stuff going.

Not this time though

I feel like trying to form a read on an entrance like that is more scum-breaking-icey than the entrance itself.

How so?

Mostly that it's often a wolf's first attempt at engaging in game-relevant talk. When I'm wolfing I feel pressure to say something meaty right away, and pretending to read into a fluff post is an easy way to get a foot in.

But he didn't read into a fluff post. Nova passed judgment on everyone's entrance. I liked it.

Sloonei arguing with 112 about Nova townreading Sloonei off a nothingburger post wants to make me just dumbclear both 112 and TSP. 12D mac style fucking gamesolving out here cunts.

[MacDougall]

I can't reasonably be convinced that Nanook isn't the right chop today, I think. I don't think I make it to F3 though so I want to have a reasonable legacy on who the third possibility.

As for that post, I can see it both ways but while all three are alive with sloonei on the chopping block it definitely looks like an attempt to make 112/sloonei a thing.

Fuck off mate MP7 is never taking me to F3 lol. Good luck if it's not Nook champ.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Probs got two left and it's 112 and TSP and fuck me.

is this an open setup? I guess I've been assuming 11-3-1.
If there are two left Nanook is definitely one I assume, 112/MP have problems if w/w

[MacDougall]

Why is it that of all the things in life to master I had to dedicate my one mastery slot to forum based mafia?

[MacDougall]

Why not love making, being handsome or shitting money?

[TonyStarkPrime]

(Mac not being reasonably in the poe and trying to solve them makes me willing to clear that spot).

So I guess it's just MP or Nanook

[MacDougall]

TSP you said some shit about being confirmed and able to prove it or something just do that now so I don't tunnel you or something

[TonyStarkPrime]

TSP you said some shit about being confirmed and able to prove it or something just do that now so I don't tunnel you or something

I'm the town power role. It is established that one exists, it's me.

[TonyStarkPrime]

this has been softed for about 4 days and I guess I've done a nice enough job being irrelevant enough that they didn't need to worry about me. I was reasonably willing to wait to take that to f3 but I don't want Mac to waste his time any further

[MacDougall]

Well ain't that some shit. What's the power?

[TonyStarkPrime]

You can read it, most of it's in the first post.

[MacDougall]

You can read it, most of it's in the first post.

Wtf that's jibberish.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Some basic vote manipulation, inefficient doctoring