Willow [Endgame]

[Turnip Head]

[insertnamehere]

[Marmot]

I voted INH because he seems like he would get road rage.

[insertnamehere]

I'll throw Kate a vote.

[bea]

I voted INH because he seems like he would get road rage.

I agree with this line of thinking.

[Kate]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

[juliets]

I'm not sure I understand the poll. Protecting the baby is a good thing, so isn't speeding with the baby a bad thing? But this is a night poll and they seem to be about good things. So, it's gone right over my head. Could someone more enlightened explain?

[FZ.]

I'm at a loss about this too.

[Marmot]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

[FZ.]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

Are you saying he's your least trusted?

[insertnamehere]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

Thanks guys.

[Marmot]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

Are you saying he's your least trusted?

Yes. It's doubtful that all three baddies voted Dom on day 1, which would clear you and Kate (and birdwithteeth of course). That leaves juliets (Andrew), bea, DH, INH, Sorsha, and myself. SVS was being defensive early in the game and was called out for it. In response, she attempted to make a case on INH here. This could be seen as distancing.

To be fair though, I have not looked at any of the other players on the above list.

[insertnamehere]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

Are you saying he's your least trusted?

Yes. It's doubtful that all three baddies voted Dom on day 1, which would clear you and Kate (and birdwithteeth of course). That leaves juliets (Andrew), bea, DH, INH, Sorsha, and myself. SVS was being defensive early in the game and was called out for it. In response, she attempted to make a case on INH here. This could be seen as distancing.

To be fair though, I have not looked at any of the other players on the above list.

So, to be clear, your case on me is that I didn't vote to lynch a civ, and the baddie leader made a case on me.

[FZ.]

I still have no idea who to vote for on this poll. This might be my first randomized vote ever

[juliets]

I have thought about randomizing but then I noticed DH voted for himself. I don't know what to believe about DH at the moment so i might vote for him since he voted for himself.

[FZ.]

Did Epi ever have "punishments" on these night polls?

[Kate]

Does anyone want it?

[juliets]

Not me - I'm likely to vote DH unless one of you wants it. Metalmarsh and inh seem to not want it.

[insertnamehere]

I'll take it guys.

[juliets]

Ok, I've got some things I have to do. INH I'm going to vote for you. Good luck.

[Kate]

I'll take it guys.

Ok.

[FZ.]

I'll take it guys.

Enjoy

[insertnamehere]

[Epignosis]

Who is driving too fast with an infant?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:46 pm

bea
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
1
DharmaHelper (6)
10%

FZ.
0
No votes

insertnamehere
5
Metalmarsh89 (4), bea (7), juliets (8), Kate (9), FZ. (10)
50%

juliets
0
No votes

Kate
1
insertnamehere (5)
10%

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Sorsha
0
No votes

Rick Overton (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
Epignosis (1), S~V~S (2), thellama73 (3)
30%


Total votes : 10

[Epignosis]

Night 4: I Am the Father of Two Children

“And you never, ever drive that fast with an infant!”

“I just saved that infant’s life!” insertnamehere objected.

“Wait, what happened to juliets?”

juliets has been killed. It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

[Kate]

Rip jc

[juliets]

lolol - worth it!

[insertnamehere]

lolol - worth it!

Not 100% sure what this means, but RIP.

[insertnamehere]

I'm voting Kate because why not

[Kate]

Are we sure this is a good thing?

No idea. Another reason for voting INH.

Are you saying he's your least trusted?

Yes. It's doubtful that all three baddies voted Dom on day 1, which would clear you and Kate (and birdwithteeth of course). That leaves juliets (Andrew), bea, DH, INH, Sorsha, and myself. SVS was being defensive early in the game and was called out for it. In response, she attempted to make a case on INH here. This could be seen as distancing.

To be fair though, I have not looked at any of the other players on the above list.

So, to be clear, your case on me is that I didn't vote to lynch a civ, and the baddie leader made a case on me.

So I was reading through and I thought this post made some sense. (The metal part). So if we take his reasoning that would leave bea, dh, inh, sorsha and metal as suspects. Since metal made this post and I'm using it for theorizing, I'm going to remove him from the list bc if I trust the list I feel I should trust that he would nt make it if he were bad.

I also think that elos partner did not vote yesterday. It sure wasn't inh IMO who waged a war against Svs earlier in the game nor do I believe It could be fz who put the last nail in the coffin.

That leaves me with bea, dh and sorsha who are my three main suspects going into this day.

[Kate]

I'm voting Kate because why not

Really?

[insertnamehere]

I'm voting Kate because why not

Really?

[Marmot]

I'm surprised birdwithteeth is still a piggy. I wonder if TH was Fin Raziel, but I also think we had deduced that he was Franjean.

Dear Mr. Host, do piggies still count as active players? I.E. do they still count as part of the civ population?

[Epignosis]

I'm surprised birdwithteeth is still a piggy. I wonder if TH was Fin Raziel, but I also think we had deduced that he was Franjean.

Dear Mr. Host, do piggies still count as active players? I.E. do they still count as part of the civ population?

Pigs are, for all practical purposes, out of the game completely.

[bea]

.htiw tih teg dluoc uoy sesruc esrow era ereht sseug I .yadot sdrawkcab eb ot gniog si yas I gnihtyreve ekil skooL

?etov t'ndid rentrap s'olE kniht uoy od yhw - etaK

(: .CJ PIR

[Sorsha]

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

[insertnamehere]

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

Nope

[insertnamehere]

.htiw tih teg dluoc uoy sesruc esrow era ereht sseug I .yadot sdrawkcab eb ot gniog si yas I gnihtyreve ekil skooL

?etov t'ndid rentrap s'olE kniht uoy od yhw - etaK

(: .CJ PIR

daed si luap

[DharmaHelper]

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

I wasn't the only one drinking the Kate Kool Aid at the time. Surely, you'd consider that.

[Sorsha]

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

I wasn't the only one drinking the Kate Kool Aid at the time. Surely, you'd consider that.

Yes but this did come after you made the comment about not trusting SVS anymore. You were against the TH/llama push against SVS on day 1 & 2. Then you said:

Well I am starting to feel sketched out by the whole "self preserve" schtick by SVS. >_>

Then day three you jumped on the Kate suspicion. While still trying to maintain your SVS "suspicion"

Here Kate votes for herself to receive the prologue boon despite the rules against it. Perhaps an over eager mafia trying to get the prize and support before considering everything? Any time someone comes out of the gate with "For realsies guys I am a civ trust in me just in me" I get pinged:

Thank you for the tributes! I love them!

ESP bwt!!

I am also going to vote Kate and ask every one else to as well, as i always do as a civ when a prize/ benefit is offered up front. I'm civ plain and simple. I'm a good choice.

If SVS is mafia (which I'm starting to think is more likely than not, all this indignation coming in), This could be seen as Kate helping to save her teammate with a drive-by vote. If SVS is taken out of the equation, then this is just a drive by vote IMO and those are just as bad. Could be Kate wants to get SVS on her side.

I think good points have been made about dom. I'm sorry I don't have more time to post tonight. I'll be more active soon. Also SVS is reading civ to me thus far in this game and I think he may be trying to sway things her way. And I think he may know better.

Votes dom

In this post you are suspecting both SVS and Kate... so what made you go with Kate over SVS? Especially after SVS's two main accusers ended up dead/civvie.... what would tip you towards Kate? If you'd already said that you were starting to disbelieve SVS... why go with Kate?

[bea]

.elibom eht morf rotareneg sdrawkcab eht ot ssecca evah t'nod I sa elyts yb-ylf eb lliw etov eht ,hcus sA .krow morf etov ot evah lliw I os yadot tfihs gninrom eht evah I

.HNI lol

.tniop doog yrev a si taht ,ahsroS

[DharmaHelper]

I don't see how a Kate vote would make sense. Inh... Do you think Kate vs Elo was baddie vs baddie?

I'm probably going to vote for DH. Re-reading his posts during the SVS/Kate lynch he seemed to be trying to steer it towards Kate. I don't recall if this was before or after his comment about thinking SVS was bad though... I'll go back and check.

Linki- ooookay.....

I wasn't the only one drinking the Kate Kool Aid at the time. Surely, you'd consider that.

Yes but this did come after you made the comment about not trusting SVS anymore. You were against the TH/llama push against SVS on day 1 & 2. Then you said:

Well I am starting to feel sketched out by the whole "self preserve" schtick by SVS. >_>

Then day three you jumped on the Kate suspicion. While still trying to maintain your SVS "suspicion"

Here Kate votes for herself to receive the prologue boon despite the rules against it. Perhaps an over eager mafia trying to get the prize and support before considering everything? Any time someone comes out of the gate with "For realsies guys I am a civ trust in me just in me" I get pinged:

Thank you for the tributes! I love them!

ESP bwt!!

I am also going to vote Kate and ask every one else to as well, as i always do as a civ when a prize/ benefit is offered up front. I'm civ plain and simple. I'm a good choice.

If SVS is mafia (which I'm starting to think is more likely than not, all this indignation coming in), This could be seen as Kate helping to save her teammate with a drive-by vote. If SVS is taken out of the equation, then this is just a drive by vote IMO and those are just as bad. Could be Kate wants to get SVS on her side.

I think good points have been made about dom. I'm sorry I don't have more time to post tonight. I'll be more active soon. Also SVS is reading civ to me thus far in this game and I think he may be trying to sway things her way. And I think he may know better.

Votes dom

In this post you are suspecting both SVS and Kate... so what made you go with Kate over SVS? Especially after SVS's two main accusers ended up dead/civvie.... what would tip you towards Kate? If you'd already said that you were starting to disbelieve SVS... why go with Kate?

Because reasons.

[DharmaHelper]

.elibom eht morf rotareneg sdrawkcab eht ot ssecca evah t'nod I sa elyts yb-ylf eb lliw etov eht ,hcus sA .krow morf etov ot evah lliw I os yadot tfihs gninrom eht evah I

.HNI lol

.tniop doog yrev a si taht ,ahsroS

It's not a tniop doog. It's not :P

I had more than feelings to go on with my Kate suspicion and at the time only feelings to go on with my SVS suspicion.

[bea]

?kool ew dluohs erehw ,kees ew eiddab eht ton er'uoy fI

?tsixe regnol on sgnileef naht erom esoht tub ,etak htiw no og ot sgnileef naht erom dah uoy - kO

[DharmaHelper]

?kool ew dluohs erehw ,kees ew eiddab eht ton er'uoy fI

?tsixe regnol on sgnileef naht erom esoht tub ,etak htiw no og ot sgnileef naht erom dah uoy - kO

That's correct. Kate has since proven she's not on the mafia's team. Unless she threw a significant portion of her team under the bus.

Not sure where to look really. Metal or Sorsha would be by guesses since I know I'm not mafia and INH and Kate seem less mafia to me than Sorsha or Metal.

[Kate]

I don't think it's dh. I think he's dropped some subtle hints that make me want to lay off of him.

[Kate]

I see that the second to last prize poll is missing from the other thread. That was the night bea and fz tied. Elo voted bea. I moved my vote to fz specifically to tie it because I didn't want to vote the Same as elo.

Bea has done a few things that pinged me and is on my list of three. However in a read through I see she laid the second vote on Svs in her lynch. I had some feels that when she was questioning me on elo that she may have been working the distancing thing. Then she failed to vote in elos lynch at all. So that's not a help.

I need to go read sorsha again now. Dh, what are you thoughts on bea or sorsha?? Same question to bea on sorsha and dh. And sorsha, you gave thoughts on dh, what about bea?

[Marmot]

I don't have much time today, but I'll be putting my vote on Kate.

[Kate]

I don't have much time today, but I'll be putting my vote on Kate.

When this happens, time constraints and all, are you allowed to talk about other people or can you only vote me?

[Kate]

I don't trust Eloh or Kate but I'm leaning a bit more towards a Kate vote today. I feel like the only evidence against Eloh is that she slightly defended SVS at one point. Kate did so as well saying she thought the case llama had against SVS was a vendetta against her. Also, I re-read quite a few players last night and a lot of players were giving SVS the botd early on, myself included, not everyone of them could be baddies. What puts Kate a bit higher on the list are a couple of comments from SVS:

Why are you all lynching Kate? I doubt she is bad.

Good defense.

I apparently don't need one today, lol.

I expected to come in here after work, and find myself 90% dead, and then this inexplicable turn of events happens.

I said previously that i suspent INH, and this kinda just reinforces it for me. No one has been talking about anything but me FOR DAYS, and now INH leads us to lynch...someone else? the only reason i can see for that is to keep the distraction around.

Why are you all lynching Kate? I doubt she is bad.

Is there anyone you would like to lynch? Because up until now, I don't think there is one person you mentioned for a lynch

Yes i did, I said i thought INH was suspicious like days ago, before he joined Llama & THs erroneous crusade on me. The whole Kate is bad case is mainly based on association with me, so why are people lynching her before me? They want to keep the distraction around, if i am the only topic of discussion, they can skate.

So that where my vote is going, since for once i have the luxury of not having to save myself. I am voting for INH

Here she is asking "why are you voting Kate? I doubt she is bad" and saying the case on Kate is based mainly on an association with her (SVS). Then trying to turn the lynch to inh.

I think if Kate was civvie SVS wouldn't really care if kate got the noose over her. She voted Dom out of self preservation, why not Kate? I'm seeing this as possible distancing, anyone else?

I'm reading through now. This post of sorsha's sticks out to me. While it was wrong, I don't think she would have posted this if she was a teammate of elo's. way too blatant defending, swaying for a teammate.

I think