Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Marcher Jovian]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

[Marcher Jovian]

Seriously, I can only think of like 3-4 people who would have been worse banishes d1

[Marcher Jovian]

That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

[dunya]

i don't envy epignosis keeping track of all our numbers, i can't even keep track of mine and have to keep reading and checking lol

[Marcher Jovian]

looked at a town and wolf game from marcher on cfc. They did the endless questions thing in the wolf game that they've been criticized for here, while the town game seemed to not have that at all, much more direct.

i'm totally trustworthy, but if you want to double check my work:

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ ... ry.657987/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ ... ry.659154/

consider: This is literally my second ever normalish game as town. maybe the reason I sound different is because I am different?

[Marcher Jovian]

That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

seriously, it would have been an utter atrocity.

[nutella]

That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

this is really starting to feel like teammate-caughtforthewrongreasons


also you never answered me in pulling up the quotes that actually made you feel so good about her

still dont understand where your read came from

[Marcher Jovian]

god here's what's gonna happen. I can see it now. y'all are gonna go "this case is rock-solid, lets vote them out"
then I'm gonna get voted out and surprise surpirse! I flip civilian
then y'all're gonna go "oh nooooooo, how could this ever have happened"
then you're gonna not reevalute, ignore my reads, and i'll have died for nothing

[Marcher Jovian]

That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

this is really starting to feel like teammate-caughtforthewrongreasons


also you never answered me in pulling up the quotes that actually made you feel so good about her

still dont understand where your read came from

I showed you

[Marcher Jovian]

That case was still utter garbage btw. It was legit just a shrug case. Like here's how it basically went:
Is Carot a wolf?
*shrug* maybe
there was utter jack for evidence.
like legit the strongest argument there was that the Carot didn't have many votes already. what kind of case was that. When is that ever a sincere thought.
Carot was pushed for utter garbage reasons and I am dissuaded.
I will not apologise for defending my convictions.

this is really starting to feel like teammate-caughtforthewrongreasons


also you never answered me in pulling up the quotes that actually made you feel so good about her

still dont understand where your read came from

I showed you

check the timestamps, it was a crosspost

[Marcher Jovian]

god here's what's gonna happen. I can see it now. y'all are gonna go "this case is rock-solid, lets vote them out"
then I'm gonna get voted out and surprise surpirse! I flip civilian
then y'all're gonna go "oh nooooooo, how could this ever have happened"
then you're gonna not reevalute, ignore my reads, and i'll have died for nothing

oh god y'all are gonna double down and tunnel Carotte next. &*%^ that. not going down today.

[Marcher Jovian]

I advice y'all right now to take a break and take stock. Who's just sitting around here? Who's letting this happen? Who's just passively going along and letting this happen. Keep track, don't forget, remember this.

[KZA]

This is so over the top

[dunya]

[nutella]

uh. are you talking about this post??

Why w/w? Is it usual for them?

No, just because usually I feel that day 1 spats like this tend to resolve with neither member being the target of suspicion after a while and their position in a triumvirate together leads me to believe that neither really suspects the other.

They both voted each other and you voted NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME.

@TonyStarkPrime why are you sussing nutella/sloonei while voting nanook?

hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling

@Marcher Jovian can you do so


still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk

Here's the posts where I got my read.

bc this is one carot post (2 if you count quote chain) and two other random ones? I'm not understanding at all


if there is something else I'm missing please point me to it because I'm not at all seeing anything else in your iso that explains your carot read

[nutella]

This is so over the top

yeah.

[nutella]

if it's really just that you mindmelded with carotte about tony then.... ok but I still don't get why you're so over the top about this

[Marcher Jovian]

This is so over the top

yeah.

if you want to push me do it. don't just sit there and say "eh I'm just gonna ignore this and box you up as a wolf and vote you"

[Marcher Jovian]

if it's really just that you mindmelded with carotte about tony then.... ok but I still don't get why you're so over the top about this

because we're about to chain-banish 3 townies in a row and I'm the only one who's seeing it.

[Marcher Jovian]

if it's really just that you mindmelded with carotte about tony then.... ok but I still don't get why you're so over the top about this

because we're about to chain-banish 3 townies in a row and I'm the only one who's seeing it.

y'all are gonna wake up a week from now and realize "oh no, how did this happen, how did we get in such a bad situation" and I'm telling you right now this is it.

[Marcher Jovian]

if it's really just that you mindmelded with carotte about tony then.... ok but I still don't get why you're so over the top about this

Like seriously if y'all are so down to use meta take the whole thing and don't just bother picking out the pieces that support your push. At least bronana and Lissa bothered looking.

start here, around page bottom: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/ ... 7/page-108

[Marcher Jovian]

There was also that time where in L&S mash I turned around from ITA'ing Mac to completely sheeping him in the space of like 30 minutes

[Marcher Jovian]

There was also that time where in L&S mash I turned around from ITA'ing Mac to completely sheeping him in the space of like 30 minutes

Speaking of Mac, ow had the right idea, where *is* he? Like I legit don't remember anything other than the opening "who should post how much" thing.

[Lissa]

Why w/w? Is it usual for them?

No, just because usually I feel that day 1 spats like this tend to resolve with neither member being the target of suspicion after a while and their position in a triumvirate together leads me to believe that neither really suspects the other.

They both voted each other and you voted NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME.

@TonyStarkPrime why are you sussing nutella/sloonei while voting nanook?

hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling

@Marcher Jovian can you do so


still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk

Here's the posts where I got my read.

this is some weak stuff

[Lissa]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

I mean, kinda villagery isn't particularly congruent with the way you've defended her

And I can think of a fair few people who are villagerier

[Marcher Jovian]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

I mean, kinda villagery isn't particularly congruent with the way you've defended her

And I can think of a fair few people who are villagerier

I am not you. I likely don't consider the same people villagery as you do. Who do you think my villagers are?

[Lissa]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

I mean, kinda villagery isn't particularly congruent with the way you've defended her

And I can think of a fair few people who are villagerier

I am not you. I likely don't consider the same people villagery as you do. Who do you think my villagers are?

I mean, carote and moth seem to be literally it

But the point I'm making is that it's pretty odd to think carote is more villagery than a fair few other people based on the reasons you've given

[Marcher Jovian]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

I mean, kinda villagery isn't particularly congruent with the way you've defended her

And I can think of a fair few people who are villagerier

I am not you. I likely don't consider the same people villagery as you do. Who do you think my villagers are?

I mean, carote and moth seem to be literally it

But the point I'm making is that it's pretty odd to think carote is more villagery than a fair few other people based on the reasons you've given

congrats, you now see why I fought so hard
who are these "fair few other people". name names and reasons

[Lissa]

whats the good word

i read yalls posts
marcher a wolf?

his defence of carot is interesting, i cant imagine having such a strong village read on her outside of masonry if im honest

just not the kind to be super villagery

The issue was never that I was dead confident that Carot was a villager. I wasn't. The issue is that Carot is one of the few people really feeling kinda villagery when half the thread is wolfing it up. What do you want me to do, step aside when one of few people who actually felt townie d1 gets yeeted?

I mean, kinda villagery isn't particularly congruent with the way you've defended her

And I can think of a fair few people who are villagerier

I am not you. I likely don't consider the same people villagery as you do. Who do you think my villagers are?

I mean, carote and moth seem to be literally it

But the point I'm making is that it's pretty odd to think carote is more villagery than a fair few other people based on the reasons you've given

congrats, you now see why I fought so hard
who are these "fair few other people". name names and reasons

I mean, you can read my iso for most of them

[Marcher Jovian]

i thought i caught bad sloonei. now i have to find someone else to vote for.

think this is ~very lightly villagery

I just isoed MR. You guys are right, he's fluff posting too much.

@Master Radishes stop that. You're a bad radish. A bad radish.

how bad is it to find this kinda villagery lmao

gg lissa

who are the villagers

i am currently villa reading tutuu, moth, nutella, wilgy

in approximate descending order of strength

(could maybe swap first two, and maaaaybe last two but prob not)

Here's your iso. tuutuu was tone read. nutella was a weak tone read for ??? reasons. moth was "oh I just think moth talking about cronyism is kinda villagery". dunya is a weak nothing read. master radishes is a weak nothing read.

you are being blatantly hypocritical. like I've conceded that my read wasn't exactly a green peek but atleast i liked what carot was thinking and caught her in the moment being villagery. your reads are empty garbage why should i sheep these.

[Carotenoid]

Hi. I have finally catch-up. My D1 is like usually bad but not this bad so sorry for that and let's kick some wolfy pants.

I started writing this read list after reading around #1783. It goes from +town to + wolf.

Town
Marcher Jovian
Yo for real I just don’t understand how they are scum read. Their attempt to create discussion in a kinda clumsy way and the sad kitty reaction just feels really town and I relate to that. We also had a mind meld moment that felt really good. Also they deserve a hug.

I see bronana brought some reasonable meta concerns but like… Didn’t they say it was their sixth game or something? That doesn’t seem really fair because regardless of alignment there’s probably going to be a huge change…

KZA
Overall tone felt really pure, especially the « if radish says i’m scum you can trust him .» At EoD, his jumping from wagon to wagon and trying to analyze movement/lack of movement felt really townie and lack of TMI. I feel quite good about this townread.

tutuu
Hmm it’s kinda funny she’s so high in the list because she was definitely one of the lowest names in my feelings before EoD. I just don’t think her « call » of unvoting me at EoD is wolfy. I think I was like the only person to scum read her so there’s no reason for her to not just quietly hope that I get mislimined. I mostly scum read her on tone related stuff so I’m comfortable thinking that this just a personality clash/misunderstanding and get over it.

Long Con
Their day posts weren’t like super inspiring but their sequence of posts at the start of N1 felt town. If they were wolf faking it, I don’t think they would be the one to point out their mistake on Master Radishes alignment, they probably would have just waited for someone else to say it and then be like « oh wow how silly haha whoops I’m town .» Also, I think the list with Soneji’s name crossed just never comes from mafia. Like, I think Soneji is never a N1 kill candidate and it’s just extremely silly to do this on purpose on top of the Master Radishes thing.


tedxtr
His EoD felt really townie: trying to push for their suspect, thinking out loud about the thread state, etc. A bit earlier #1268 felt more paranoid townie than paranoid wolf. His interactions with me also felt more like town trying to gauge others than wolfy pushing things with bad faith. I just really hope they would stop the tunnel on Marcher Jovian.




bronana
I don’t know how to word it properly but overall I feel like he has been really… Reasonable? Like well-grounded? I especially liked their post saying « Feels impossible to get a good grasp on the game when there are still like five one-posters after 65 hours of game .» I just don’t like the push on me at EoD because I just fail to see the logic, but at the same time if he knew Master Radishes and I are both town it would have been a really discutable push. Hmm so yeah, I dislike the push, but I acknowledge that it seems to be coming from a non-TMI place.

Lissa
I feel like lots of people are having lots of expectations from her and that she has kept a cool head regarding all that in a way that feel townie. Like, a bit annoyed but trying to be comprehensive. Overall she also felt coherent and trying to figure out things. I especially liked her #1308.


Town for now

moth
D0 feeling is that despite the general kinda trollesqueish state of the thread he has been trying to get things started by casting suspicions instead of just going with the flow. I also appreciate that he took the time to answer my *fabulous* opener question in a way that felt genuine. His frustration at the beginning also felt townie. I’d even say that if he was a wolf, that would have happened in wolf chat. He’s less present but the fact that he did reevaluate his reads multiple time and went « full circle » feels natural.


outed wolf

#1240 asks for not voting his triumvirates. After Master Radishes death, I realized we only lose like half of stats if someone from our triumvirate is *night killed*. So it doesn’t really matter, it’s like almost better to have partners voted out during the day. The rest of his posting is mostly ok so leaving that here.

MacDougall
Initial impressions were good. His disappearance feels mostly NAI, though I have the impression he would try more if he had wolf teammates. I don’t actually know him really so if anyone has input on this it would be appreciated.

TonyStarkPrime
Wasn’t a fan of his beginning but I like how he answered my questions. I feel like I’ll get a better read as the game go on so I’m not super stressed about that.


dunya
I’ve been kinda going back and forth but I do not believe nutella and her are w/w so that makes her town. Her comment/joke saying she thought she wasn’t playing or something feels more v considering that she said she was going to get in the game and all previous to that.

DrWilgy
Gah I’m really hesitant to put this slot in « to sort »… Gut feeling at EoD yesterday was that he was town and his vote was on nutella first iirc so that’s good points for him. Unless he’s a shameless busser. Is DrWilgy a shameless busser?


To sort

motobot
I don’t know. It feels like a coin flip.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Apparently this person is in this game so this person is on my read list.


Wolf

Soneji
Apparently him not participating is a scum tell. So his absence not being brought up makes me think there’s a good chance he is a wolf. The D0 catch-up post doesn’t inspire me anything and the « If you had read the top part of the post, you'd realize that was all written prior to the banish » feels overly defensive.

Sloonei
At some point he entered the thread and he was like heyy let’s shake things up and then. Things kinda just stayed the same. The GTH thing was nice but mostly but the conclusion was like «  Let's explore why Radishes, Carot, Mac, and KZA were the preferred suspects. » Kinda meh considering 6 people participated counting Sloonei and that it just… Never did really happen. There was a « @dunya @Lissa why did you GTH KZA as scum? » but really that’s it. I’m not fan of this.

Turnip Head
Big picture impression is that they have been there most of the time but not doing much. I especially dislike their #1243 « At this point there doesn't seem to be any major consensus reads. Every suspect has vocal player(s) on each side of the aisle. » It’s like.  Hey I acknowledge thread state is not great right now, can someone do something? while doing nothing.

nutella
The jumping from suspect to suspect while being really confident + that specchatish list is… eh. EoD looks really bad for nutella and she’s like not even sorry/feeling bad about it. Sorta self-defending badly before jumping on the easy mislim Marcher Jovian and me is not a good look.

[Lissa]

the amount of cherry picking in that summary is incredible

there is ted, moth, tutuu, the latter two both of which i absolutely talked about less vaguely than you're describing lol

also the difference is that the people i village read are actually villagery

[Carotenoid]

tl;dr

I express the desire to fight people

Town
Marcher Jovian
KZA
tutuu
Long Con

tedxtr
bronana
Lissa

Town for now

moth

outed wolf
MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime

dunya
DrWilgy

To sort

motobot
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Wolf

Soneji
Sloonei
Turnip Head
nutella

[KZA]

Tell me about Soneji.

[KZA]

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

[Carotenoid]

I don't understand how the votecount work.
What's the logic for the order of pseudonyms???

It seems to be neither alphabetical order, neither time of vote order uherijfuhjedifhe

[Carotenoid]

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

[Marcher Jovian]

the amount of cherry picking in that summary is incredible

there is ted, moth, tutuu, the latter two both of which i absolutely talked about less vaguely than you're describing lol

also the difference is that the people i village read are actually villagery

ted i have said enough on
moth we agree on
tutuu I do not buy. I think people are reading her way too easily just because she's effectively projecting vibes. She hasn't actually made any big pushes or tried to advance gamestate. She's just sitting around, making a stream-of-consciousness set of posts that could easily be faked, and then peacing out. And then people just go "hmm, yes this townie made a townie post" and just ignore her and let her skate by on conf bias without ever engaging her or considering her reads. Feels weird. Someone that townread should carry more weight in opinions and pushing stuff and have people listening to her, but I'm not really seeing that.

[KZA]

Interesting I actually agree with Jovian on Tutuu, her vote on MR was actually dreadful

[TonyStarkPrime]

>moth is being nervous
>if he were a wolf he would be nervous, but in wolf chat
>moth is town

How does anyone think that this is remotely a villager’s thought process?

it's weird

[KZA]

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

Sloonei and nutella will require ISOing for me to say anything right now. Turnip Head I don't know as a player but he seemed pretty sure of his case on MR which I want to say is townie?

[Carotenoid]

Hmn anyway. I'd like to do a votecount ordered by voting time but it seems like I'll have to manually do it by cmd + f'ing Aubergine and hoping everybody voted in thread.. ?

For the moment:

D1 vote

Carotenoid (6) : bronana, outed wolf, moth, tedxtr, KZA, Lissa
DrWilgy (4) : Carotenoid, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, motorboat, Long Con
Marcher Jovian (2) : Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime
Master Radishes (7) : nutella, Turnip Head, dunya, DrWilgy, Marcher Jovian, tutuu, Sloonei
No vote (2) : MacDougall, Soneji

First thing I see is that nutella, Turnip Head and Sloonei have all voted Master Radishes. I think this was a v/v/v/v situation so that makes me doubt a bit but I still find that possible. Maybe DrWilgy is wolf and they didn't want to take a chance since he had no quickness or whatever. Hmmmn.

Does DrWilgy buss when he is a wolf? Like does he ever vote for a teammate early D1 for like no reason?

[Carotenoid]

Spoiler: show

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

Sloonei and nutella will require ISOing for me to say anything right now. Turnip Head I don't know as a player but he seemed pretty sure of his case on MR which I want to say is townie?

Well I think his case was like "I ISO'ed him and his bad, I had 2/2 on him before so I'm right". It's doesn't feel like a townie that built a case and feel super confident in it.

[Carotenoid]

*he's

sorry english hard

[KZA]

Spoiler: show

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

Sloonei and nutella will require ISOing for me to say anything right now. Turnip Head I don't know as a player but he seemed pretty sure of his case on MR which I want to say is townie?

Well I think his case was like "I ISO'ed him and his bad, I had 2/2 on him before so I'm right". It's doesn't feel like a townie that built a case and feel super confident in it.

We'll see, I'm more interested in the people that followed him on to Radishes for the time being

[Carotenoid]

nutella's view on Marcher Jovian and me is like incredibly indecisively opportunistic.

Color code
Thinking Marcher Jovian w me v
Thinking Marcher Jovian v me w
Thinking we're w/w
Thinking we're v/v

hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling

@Marcher Jovian can you do so


still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk

Spoiler: show

hmmm. yeah marcher really never did explain why they townread carotte so confidently, I was hoping they'd go back and find the specific posts that gave them that feeling

@Marcher Jovian can you do so


still think it's more likely TMIing/whiteknighting a townie but I also suspect carotte independently and maybe they just would hard defend a teammate idfk

how is it TMIing a villager when you suspect carot and are hesitant on suspecting marcher

that sentence is breaking my brain

I just don't see it as w/w, I think it is w/v or v/w (or v/v I guess but meh)
I'm open to your view of it though, maybe they are just teammates but I really don't feel it and I don't have the energy to dig into marcher's meta

--> This is also not answering the question.
nutella was previously thinking Marcher Jovian is town and that I'm mafia but when "maybe Marcher Jovian is wolf" gained traction it became one of her possibility. When asked about it her answer is like "I think there's a wolf between them but but heeeeeey, if you convince me they're w/w I'll believe it"

hi ted I think you're prob town now btw

youve been trending up a while now in general and jovian stonks are down which doesnt hurt

After dodging the question on how she can see Marcher Jovian TMI me when she suspects me, she uses the suspicion on Marcher Jovian to befriend tedxtr. She's like not even directly committing on scumreading Marcher Jovian, it's just some opportunistic shade.

There's also #1808 where nutella is like k cool I'd be surprised (about us being w/w) and all that and POOF, #1810 actually it's possible hmnn

Aside from that

well I felt like radish/dunya was a slam dunk lol. preflips are a helluva drug

This came from nowhere, is self-defensive but not townie feeling sorry for doing a bad push nor townie trying to see their mistake.

[Carotenoid]

Spoiler: show

Tell me about Soneji.

Oh I missed your summary post

Don't really like that case tbh

Yeah I can see why it's my least wolf wolf case. It was in "to sort" but then I was like eeeeeeeh nah it feels better under the line. What do you think about Sloonei Turnip Head nutella?

Sloonei and nutella will require ISOing for me to say anything right now. Turnip Head I don't know as a player but he seemed pretty sure of his case on MR which I want to say is townie?

Well I think his case was like "I ISO'ed him and his bad, I had 2/2 on him before so I'm right". It's doesn't feel like a townie that built a case and feel super confident in it.

We'll see, I'm more interested in the people that followed him on to Radishes for the time being

What about Sloonei?

[Epignosis]

The thread has been locked for 30 minutes in preparation of the commencement of Day 2.

[Epignosis]

Salutations, Exiles.

The time has come to conduct the second Rite.

Alas, one of you will not be available to do your sacred duty.

The one called tutuu has been selected to be shuffled into oblivion.

And it is done.

Spoiler: show

Tamitha Theyn of The Tempers has been banished!

As a winged Harp, you are useful for reconnaissance. Each Night, you may track someone and learn whom he or she targeted, if anyone.

What a shame, Tamitha.

tutuu was a Civilian Exile.

Commence.


It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to banish someone.

[outed wolf]

rip tutuu