Space Invaders [END]

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

[protocultures]

Alison and Carotte being yellow probably actually means they're town and Epi and LC being yellow probably means at least one of them is mafia

I don't think that's a good conclusion. I think we're both town. Look at Epi's entrance to today, is his Soneji analysis illegitimate? Is he manipulating? I judge it to be genuine town using a D1 mafia elim for solid analysis. Also, I'm town too, bank on it and I promise no disappointment.

this is another instance where he is trying to manipulate epi into town reading him imo. "why does one of epi and LC have to be an alien, epi looks town, right? and so am i, we're both town"

also a good example of how he plays with words. look at the words he uses when he makes us think of epi (someone who thinks is genuine). "is it illegitimate?" "is he manipulating?"

negative words used to describe someone genuine to cause us to reasses.

LC did not mention soneji even once before he flipped.

i need to check soneji's mentions for LC actually.

Dunya continues to confuse me. Her aggro approach to finding scum seems towny, but I dislike the colouring, its like too try hard or something.

She still dies with me and Tony irrespective. Come on... lets drink the kool aid together.

[protocultures]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

[dunya]

sorry you dislike it, but i felt like highlighting the words how they felt in my mind as i read LC's post. it was relevant to me to do that.

[protocultures]

I really dislike how I kind of cleared mac in my head from thge Rej/Soneji analysis. Logically it kind of makes sense (aliens dont bus their entire team), but I feel dirty.

[dunya]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

[dunya]

they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

and we know no one saved anyone else because tony spent several posts asking us all.

this is all a mind fuck.

[dunya]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

Looking unlikely.

[protocultures]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

[protocultures]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

Looking unlikely.

from your pov, why cant it be Dunya and me?

[protocultures]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

[Long Con]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

[dunya]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

i would have also shot two townies if i knew 2 town protects were on nutella.

[dunya]

ok fine, they shot nutella but knew reasonably well it wasn't going through unless someone forgot to send in the protect (very unlikely if you're town)

[dunya]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

Looking unlikely.

from your pov, why cant it be Dunya and me?

Well if it couldn’t, then it wouldn’t be looking unlikely it would be looking impossible.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

wolf buddies forever

[protocultures]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

not disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.

Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?

I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.

any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?

Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.

[nutella]

That was a weird post. Some sort of mood.

My reaction to rej protecting Epi was to townread him because he did what I did. Town mindmeld? So I thought.

mmmmmm this makes me less inclined to believe you tbh

[protocultures]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

[Long Con]

That was a weird post. Some sort of mood.

My reaction to rej protecting Epi was to townread him because he did what I did. Town mindmeld? So I thought.

mmmmmm this makes me less inclined to believe you tbh

That's very disappointing.

[nutella]

yeah I find myself nodding along to dunya's stuff about lc

[protocultures]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

Looking unlikely.

from your pov, why cant it be Dunya and me?

Well if it couldn’t, then it wouldn’t be looking unlikely it would be looking impossible.

let me reformulate. Why do you think its unlikely Dunya and me are aliens? I thought you first publically stated the conclusion to draw was that we all should be lasered.

[dunya]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

oh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.

yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.

[nutella]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

....wait what

first of all why do you keep saying you know proto is town


I have to think about this more


but it could still just be you and tsp

[protocultures]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

oh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.

yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.

I guess I misunderstood your question slightly.

Of all the possible worlds of 2, do i think you two are the most likely? I dont know.

Do I think its likely there is at least 1 in there? yes

Do I think its worth shooting both of you? yes

Dizzy flipping town kind of ruined things in my head. It was supposed to be Dizzy and Tony and we all go home and chew bubblegum.

[dunya]

first of all why do you keep saying you know proto is town

my intuition, just as i have epi locked town. and sabie.

[Long Con]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

not disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.

Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?

I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.

any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?

Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.

I'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.

I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.

My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.

[nutella]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

oh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.

yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.

...this reads like a concession lmao

[dunya]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

oh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.

yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.

...this reads like a concession lmao

yeah you got me good

[protocultures]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

....wait what

first of all why do you keep saying you know proto is town


I have to think about this more


but it could still just be you and tsp

I think I get what she is saying.

I know I am town, its mod confirmed dizzy is town, mafia knows dizzy's and my own alignment, therefore mafia know there are 2 saves on Nutella.

The case has logic.

The reason why I still want to kill Dunya anyway is while her trap of not confirming the save in the night can be viewed towny (as a trap), it can also be viewed scummy if you think it may have been intended to cause paranoid town who were not requested to save, to expend bunker saves onto Nutella. This does kind of push into the world where aliens intentionally dump KP into Nutella though, so it doesnt necessarily have to be a team that includes Dunya.

[Long Con]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

....wait what

first of all why do you keep saying you know proto is town


I have to think about this more


but it could still just be you and tsp

I think I get what she is saying.

I know I am town, its mod confirmed dizzy is town, mafia knows dizzy's and my own alignment, therefore mafia know there are 2 saves on Nutella.

The case has logic.

The reason why I still want to kill Dunya anyway is while her trap of not confirming the save in the night can be viewed towny (as a trap), it can also be viewed scummy if you think it may have been intended to cause paranoid town who were not requested to save, to expend bunker saves onto Nutella. This does kind of push into the world where aliens intentionally dump KP into Nutella though, so it doesnt necessarily have to be a team that includes Dunya.

Yeah, trying to get saves wasted on nutella doesn't work with the idea of shooting nutella. If dunya wanted to lure bunker saves, then the only logical thing to so is shoot some townfolk, not hit up a super-protected nutella. And I don't believe that Alien holstering is a reality in any universe.

[Long Con]

the only logical thing to *do

[Long Con]

tbh, i think they played their round wrong after i came to this conclusion with dizzy flipping town. i would have shot two townies in a heartbeat knowing 4 town protects (or at least 3, cos i waffle on tony) were on nutella.

so same conclusion as me, which is why I think mafia are within you, tony and me.

oh wait, do you think the mafia team IS tony and me?

well, this is why I keep pushing the plan that includes killing me.

oh wow, i don't have anything to say to that. i thought you actively believed only one of us was bad, but not both.

yeah im speechless lol. ok gj.

...this reads like a concession lmao

yeah you got me good

It's not "gg", nutella.

[protocultures]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

not disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.

Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?

I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.

any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?

Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.

I'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.

I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.

My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.

Google failed for TWTBW.

If I an alien, I dont push for this plan because I die. I can push other plans. I feel townread enough, I can push any agenda. I dont need to push one where I die. Just my take on the game.

I was not saying I believe you believe in advantage in keeping POE wide, was just asking for you to spitball since you were online.

Also did some mild digging and saw you are an artist, which is cool, and means I should expect creative things from you.

[Epignosis]

Night 2 Saves – WIP (my list may be incorrect/incomplete. Please feel free to comment and we can update it)


Proto – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Tony – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Dyslexicon – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Dunya - saved Nutella as requested but intentionally didn’t confirm in night 1.

Nanook – holstered.

Mac – holstered.

LongCon – holstered

Carotenoid - holstered

Alison – TBC

Sabie/Tutuu – TBC

Epi – TBC

@Alison @sabie12 @Epignosis
Please can you confirm info or confirm you choose to withhold info.

I'm going to keep mum unless Captain nutella files a Freedom of Information Act request form by close of business today.

[sabie12]

i would shoot mac right now if i could tbh. the fact he and alison are protecting nutella is meeeeehhhhhh. but at least @sabie12 is also protecting the nut. please confirm @sabie12

Yes I already sent it in.

[dunya]

TWTBW - too wolf to be wolf

[sabie12]

Unless the plan has changed. I havent had a chance to read from last night yet I am at work

[protocultures]

Night 2 Saves – WIP (my list may be incorrect/incomplete. Please feel free to comment and we can update it)


Proto – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Tony – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Dyslexicon – saved Nutella as requested and confirmed during Night 1.

Dunya - saved Nutella as requested but intentionally didn’t confirm in night 1.

Nanook – holstered.

Mac – holstered.

LongCon – holstered

Carotenoid - holstered

Alison – TBC

Sabie/Tutuu – TBC

Epi – TBC

@Alison @sabie12 @Epignosis
Please can you confirm info or confirm you choose to withhold info.

I'm going to keep mum unless Captain nutella files a Freedom of Information Act request form by close of business today.

what - Nutella said you holstered. If you saved...

[protocultures]

TWTBW - too wolf to be wolf

thanks.

[Long Con]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

not disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.

Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?

I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.

any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?

Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.

I'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.

I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.

My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.

Google failed for TWTBW.

If I an alien, I dont push for this plan because I die. I can push other plans. I feel townread enough, I can push any agenda. I dont need to push one where I die. Just my take on the game.

I was not saying I believe you believe in advantage in keeping POE wide, was just asking for you to spitball since you were online.

Also did some mild digging and saw you are an artist, which is cool, and means I should expect creative things from you.

Most of my creativity goes into evil plans. Or in proposing evil plans the scum team might be employing. I'm heavily into risky gambits, which is why I see the advantage of you putting yourself out there as the laser kill: no Alien would EVER do that, right? I don't think nutella is considering shooting you. Which is exactly where an Alien wants to be.

[Epignosis]

Okay, I'm calling it. Aliens double shot Nutella. That probably means more than we want it to.

need Alison and Epi to confirm they holstered before coming to that conclusion. Well, just one of them since I dont see alient splitting KP into Nutella.

Since I do believe you have the civilian's best interest in mind, I did nothing Night 2.

For realsies.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

no bad idea, proto and i'll tell you why. i know we're town with dizzy. if 2 of us were town even (you and dizzy), since i hadn't confirmed my save, it means the mafia did not shoot nutella

i'm not saying believe i'm town now, i'm saying believe dizzy was town and you are town. if mafia knew you and dizzy were saving nutella because you're both town, then their kill doesn't go through. they intentionally did not shoot anyone else!

mafia either holstered (weird) or they did shoot nutella (nobody died and nobody claimed a save) or town are lying about holstering (god knows why)

Concluding mafia did not shoot nutella is wrong imo and just a weird conclusion. I might not be following your through process.

I don't see any real difference, to the mafia team, between shooting a protected nutella, or holstering the kill.

The result in the thread is identical. They shot nutella twice and crossed their fingers. There is no arguable advantage at all to holstering, therefore they didn't do it.

not disagreeing with your post, but what is it in relation to? My post was pointing out that Dunya sauing "it means mafia did not shoot nutella" is weird.

Can you try to argue the advantage of dumping KP onto Nutella to keep POE wide?

I cant work my brain around it, but doesnt mean I'm not wrong or that aliens think this was optimal. I mean, if they did do it, its working out pretty well for them since Im advocating I get myself shot.

any likely candidates from the meta you think would do this?

Thoughts on Tony early on hinting they thought the 4 protectors likely has 1-2 aliens in it and him now looking to find theories away from that? I'll be honest, I would feel more confident in the plan if Dizzy had flipped alien but I'm still sticking to it.

I'm not trying to argue the advantage, I'm analyzing from the information that we have.

I don't know that I agree with you advocating nutella lasering you as part of a mechanical plan. If you're town, it's a bad result, or maybe you're an Alien who hopes this gambit will be TWTBW, I dunno. I don't like it though.

My post was not dirdctly relating to your last one, but just generally about the discussion. It was a realization I had.

Google failed for TWTBW.

If I an alien, I dont push for this plan because I die. I can push other plans. I feel townread enough, I can push any agenda. I dont need to push one where I die. Just my take on the game.

I was not saying I believe you believe in advantage in keeping POE wide, was just asking for you to spitball since you were online.

Also did some mild digging and saw you are an artist, which is cool, and means I should expect creative things from you.

Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Is it bad that I kinda still want to kill sabie/Alison more than dunya/TSP/Proto

Cause I do

[nutella]

Is it bad that I kinda still want to kill sabie/Alison more than dunya/TSP/Proto

Cause I do

what about carot

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Is it bad that I kinda still want to kill sabie/Alison more than dunya/TSP/Proto

Cause I do

what about carot

I don’t actively scumread them

Why did they do something besides talk about mechanics?

[dunya]

what about macomir, nanook?

also you're supposed to be my mason and not allowed to let me die bitch

don't let em kill me!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ugh don't get so revved up on this dude.

I didn't come forward about protecting Epi because I didn't want to give aliens free information. I defended Epi as town because I believe he is town.

the entire wolf team might have protected Epi

Thoughts on the entire wolf team protecting Nutella last night?

Looking unlikely.

from your pov, why cant it be Dunya and me?

Well if it couldn’t, then it wouldn’t be looking unlikely it would be looking impossible.

let me reformulate. Why do you think its unlikely Dunya and me are aliens? I thought you first publically stated the conclusion to draw was that we all should be lasered.

I see the mechanical reasoning you're getting at. But explain to me why Alison/Carotte or something wouldn't also double shoot Nutella, knowing they're both sort of on the chopping block? Why doesn't Mac/Epi shoot Nutella for the rest of the game, knowing that we're only going to get to them via NKA?