Space Invaders [END]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Should probably tell you guys something that I wasn’t in most people’s POE and all of a sudden today I am for...let’s be charitable and call them very soft reasons.

Even though I’m not entirely locked in, I HAVE been contributing, if you want to push me do the work to read me don’t just lazily say “idk maybe nanook I guess”

[TonyStarkPrime]

Should probably tell you guys something that I wasn’t in most people’s POE and all of a sudden today I am for...let’s be charitable and call them very soft reasons.

Even though I’m not entirely locked in, I HAVE been contributing, if you want to push me do the work to read me don’t just lazily say “idk maybe nanook I guess”

idk maybe nanook I guess

[dunya]

soneji kinda wolf got a funny thing

I owe Carotte 5-6 names.


the >rand alien section:

Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji

in roughly that order.

top to bottom least likely to most likely. Alison/Carotte probably not w/w, Alison/Mac probably not w/w. For people who think Epi is a wolf, Alison/Epi probably not w/w. maybe Alison is just town. I'll check up, see if I can cross off any other pairings

i don't know why tony is still alive if he's town lol.

[Carotenoid]

my poe would look like (from least to most scummy):

nanook
alison
mac
carot

@Carotenoid you've really disappeared and if you're town, that just makes you likely to be a misshot. do you have time to give us a new poe, some reactions, anything?

I will try to give some time to this game before EoD, but I'm a bit busy today so not guaranteeing anything

I 100% believe you and Epignosis when you say you would veto the Hally kill. I'm not locktowning protocultures as town anymore but still believe there's good chances he's town. TSP too.

That leaves me Alison/MacDougall/Nanook and honestly I'm back to thinking it's just Alison and MacDougall. I cleared MacDougall for "bussing" Soneji/Rej, but if the team is exactly these 4, it was the only way aliens could ever imagine winning so eh.

[dunya]

my poe would look like (from least to most scummy):

nanook
alison
mac
carot

@Carotenoid you've really disappeared and if you're town, that just makes you likely to be a misshot. do you have time to give us a new poe, some reactions, anything?

I will try to give some time to this game before EoD, but I'm a bit busy today so not guaranteeing anything

I 100% believe you and Epignosis when you say you would veto the Hally kill. I'm not locktowning protocultures as town anymore but still believe there's good chances he's town. TSP too.

That leaves me Alison/MacDougall/Nanook and honestly I'm back to thinking it's just Alison and MacDougall. I cleared MacDougall for "bussing" Soneji/Rej, but if the team is exactly these 4, it was the only way aliens could ever imagine winning so eh.

you had a lot of early game suspicion on TSP, has that all completely cleared? what made you do the 180 on him?

[Carotenoid]

dunya: Soneji's flip

[TonyStarkPrime]

soneji kinda wolf got a funny thing

I owe Carotte 5-6 names.


the >rand alien section:

Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji

in roughly that order.

top to bottom least likely to most likely. Alison/Carotte probably not w/w, Alison/Mac probably not w/w. For people who think Epi is a wolf, Alison/Epi probably not w/w. maybe Alison is just town. I'll check up, see if I can cross off any other pairings

i don't know why tony is still alive if he's town lol.

cause I'm clearly skating, and moreover because one person has died since this in a game with a bajillion doctors

[protocultures]

It's hard to tell what's going on without Nutella in the thread. Proto, do you think it's likely at all that me and Dunya are both wolves? What would you put the probability at?

both wolves - yes likely.

% of both before knowing alignment of either, I dunno. I felt a lot better about it before Dunya's posts about not killing new people. Maybe like 30%? Theres a lot of combos of 2 player teams, so the fact that its only 30% isnt that low.

If one of you flips mafia though, I will be asking Nutella to turbo shoot the other one.

If either of you flip town, I probably want to look elsewhere now.

[dunya]

linki: yeah, i'm going through tony's iso

Tutuu I’m not really around right now but I do want to try to engage with you on this. Look at eod 1. Nutella’s made up her mind to shoot Mac. I tell her not to, repeatedly. I start working up a defense of Mac. I point her to Soneji. Soneji gets shot by a laser.
Why would I do this as an alien?
Is it like exactly me/Mac/Alison? Trying to move to a less active partner and get some cred? I mean maybe. But that’s a very unlikely world.

damn this is so convincing.

[dunya]

Though it’s close. I’m just advocating bunker use since 2 NKs tonight. Tomorrow you put two on Nutella and leave it.

hmm

tbh, i don't see a world where wolf tony doesn't kill 2 townies on night 2 unless proto is his last teammate.

[protocultures]

I'm a bit scared to ask on Day 4, but what/who is linki?

[protocultures]

linki: yeah, i'm going through tony's iso

Tutuu I’m not really around right now but I do want to try to engage with you on this. Look at eod 1. Nutella’s made up her mind to shoot Mac. I tell her not to, repeatedly. I start working up a defense of Mac. I point her to Soneji. Soneji gets shot by a laser.
Why would I do this as an alien?
Is it like exactly me/Mac/Alison? Trying to move to a less active partner and get some cred? I mean maybe. But that’s a very unlikely world.

damn this is so convincing.

Why couldnt Soneji/Mac/TSP be a team? I agree that townshield on mac and shove onto Soneji looks good for TSP though.

[dunya]

linki is when you make a post and it gets stopped because other people made posts while you were making a post lol. it's annoying i thought, but then i played without it and realized it's pretty cool.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] do you think i should get shot?

[sabie12]

sabie12:

This is sabie's latest post:

Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

If sabie12 is alien, this line of accusation means that either sabie genuinely forgot her team didn't destroy Dizzy (which I don't believe) or that sabie12 wants us to think that (which I also don't believe).

If the mistake is real, sabie12 is a bunker.

I see how my wording is confusing what I mean is if nanook had a teammate they could have been one of the people pushing for dizzy to be shot.

[TonyStarkPrime]

linki is when you make a post and it gets stopped because other people made posts while you were making a post lol. it's annoying i thought, but then i played without it and realized it's pretty cool.

@TonyStarkPrime do you think i should get shot?

No.

[sabie12]

Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

I think Dunya admitted that if they were mafia that Hally is within their kill pool so shouldn't town read her for that.

I know I read somewhere someone was town reading dunya because they didn't believe she would have killed hally.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

[sabie12]

I am not unintelligent. I am aware that nutella shot dizzy but there were people that helped push her in that direction or help her feel like that was the right decision. Again I realize no one ever understands what I'm saying. I apologize I word things weird.

[dunya]

i wanna believe carot is town based on how the soneji defence came into play right before he was shot, but i can't tell if she seriously thought he was getting shot there or if it was gonna be macomir.

[protocultures]

linki is when you make a post and it gets stopped because other people made posts while you were making a post lol. it's annoying i thought, but then i played without it and realized it's pretty cool.

@TonyStarkPrime do you think i should get shot?

I spam submit and ignore it because I'm lazy. Don't judge me.

[dunya]

I am not unintelligent. I am aware that nutella shot dizzy but there were people that helped push her in that direction or help her feel like that was the right decision. Again I realize no one ever understands what I'm saying. I apologize I word things weird.

i understand you! and i don't think epi was meaning any slight to your intelligence, but perhaps caught a town slip from you when catching up you made an error that an alien most likely would not make.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i wanna believe carot is town based on how the soneji defence came into play right before he was shot, but i can't tell if she seriously thought he was getting shot there or if it was gonna be macomir.

Yeah the strong defense from carot points away. I had forgotten about that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I guess it still works with like mac/carot

[dunya]

mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

[TonyStarkPrime]

mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

[TonyStarkPrime]

er -> going to get layered

[TonyStarkPrime]

lasered

[TonyStarkPrime]

this is a disaster

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oy dunya how could you do me like that

[protocultures]

Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

The 30% was for the exact team of 2 vs all possible teams of 2. That was pure finger in air.

You are now asking me for my thoughts on % chance for any single alien where it's 25% I randomly find mafia (pretty sure it's 2/8). Actually imo since epi is always town it's 2/7 which is 28.6%.

If you want me to take you and Dunya out if the pool, its 2/5 to hit mafia assuming both of you are town. So 40%

So like yes there's a few people over 30% mafia.

Not sure if this response is what you expected though or what you were looking for.

If you don't laser TSP/Dunya and you make me choose, I probably want to see Mac's alignment after they get lasered. I assume thats more what you were asking.

[dunya]

* I think MacDougall can be completely cleared from Rej flip. --> I still wanna do some ISO tomorrow to make sure because it's only based on memories for the moment

can u tell me how rej flipping cleared mac, carot?

[dunya]

mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

i thought they weren't compatible day 1 and night 1 tbh, but i'm isoing carot now to make sure.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

The 30% was for the exact team of 2 vs all possible teams of 2. That was pure finger in air.

You are now asking me for my thoughts on % chance for any single alien where it's 25% I randomly find mafia (pretty sure it's 2/8). Actually imo since epi is always town it's 2/7 which is 28.6%.

If you want me to take you and Dunya out if the pool, its 2/5 to hit mafia assuming both of you are town. So 40%

So like yes there's a few people over 30% mafia.

Not sure if this response is what you expected though or what you were looking for.

If you don't laser TSP/Dunya and you make me choose, I probably want to see Mac's alignment after they get lasered. I assume thats more what you were asking.

I was roughly pointing out that even mechanically by your strategy me and Dunya are about =rand wolf, so this is about what I was looking for. Additionally, I wanted to get where your head was at outside of shooting me/dunya. You gave me some of that, but I'd like some elaboration. Who are Mac's likely scum partners? Who's the least likely scum outside of you/Epi?

[sabie12]

Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

I guess my defense is I get the sense tutuu is a stream of conciousness poster. Like they post as they're trying to figure things out whether it makes sense or not because they don't know for sure and are trying to work it all out. I feel like that was how their progession went.

I also did not accuse you of killing dizzy because obviously I know you didn't.
What page do you think we should end up on? What about dunya mac or carot how do you feel about them?

[dunya]

mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

i still think it's less likely carot will choose to save a total no-show and inactive over mac if they were teammates. so i find it carot/mac w/w less likely than other pairings.

[dunya]

imagine a world where proto is an alien.

terrifying.

[dunya]

mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

i still think it's less likely carot will choose to save a total no-show and inactive over mac if they were teammates. so i find it carot/mac w/w less likely than other pairings.

unless i guess she felt macomir at the time was a burned "slot" and she'd rather shoot him and give soneji time to build a town rep. hmm.

but that requires more mind gymnastics and tinfoil than the obvious hypothesis: wolf carot wouldn't go out on a limb and save an inactive teammate like that over an active one. plus mac hates it when teammates sacrifice him point blank. ask me, he pulled my ear several miles when i accidentally did it one game.

[dunya]

and carot also doesn't make sense as partners with alison.

that leaves nanook from my poe. i'll check real quick if it makes sense.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

I guess my defense is I get the sense tutuu is a stream of conciousness poster. Like they post as they're trying to figure things out whether it makes sense or not because they don't know for sure and are trying to work it all out. I feel like that was how their progession went.

I also did not accuse you of killing dizzy because obviously I know you didn't.
What page do you think we should end up on? What about dunya mac or carot how do you feel about them?

I’ve had dunya as kinda townie most of the game, I thought drago was scummy but Mac’s been pretty townie imo so that’s fine

Carot is...idk. Maybe they’re mafia? But like...if they are they’re kind of a weird fit with most partners imo, except maybe...tony, I guess? Idk. So yeah, they’re a tough read for me, but I lean town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

I guess my defense is I get the sense tutuu is a stream of conciousness poster. Like they post as they're trying to figure things out whether it makes sense or not because they don't know for sure and are trying to work it all out. I feel like that was how their progession went.

I also did not accuse you of killing dizzy because obviously I know you didn't.
What page do you think we should end up on? What about dunya mac or carot how do you feel about them?

I’ve had dunya as kinda townie most of the game, I thought drago was scummy but Mac’s been pretty townie imo so that’s fine

Carot is...idk. Maybe they’re mafia? But like...if they are they’re kind of a weird fit with most partners imo, except maybe...tony, I guess? Idk. So yeah, they’re a tough read for me, but I lean town.

(Very lightly town)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

and carot also doesn't make sense as partners with alison.

that leaves nanook from my poe. i'll check real quick if it makes sense.

You think I make sense as an alison partner? Lolok

[protocultures]

Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

The 30% was for the exact team of 2 vs all possible teams of 2. That was pure finger in air.

You are now asking me for my thoughts on % chance for any single alien where it's 25% I randomly find mafia (pretty sure it's 2/8). Actually imo since epi is always town it's 2/7 which is 28.6%.

If you want me to take you and Dunya out if the pool, its 2/5 to hit mafia assuming both of you are town. So 40%

So like yes there's a few people over 30% mafia.

Not sure if this response is what you expected though or what you were looking for.

If you don't laser TSP/Dunya and you make me choose, I probably want to see Mac's alignment after they get lasered. I assume thats more what you were asking.

I was roughly pointing out that even mechanically by your strategy me and Dunya are about =rand wolf, so this is about what I was looking for. Additionally, I wanted to get where your head was at outside of shooting me/dunya. You gave me some of that, but I'd like some elaboration. Who are Mac's likely scum partners? Who's the least likely scum outside of you/Epi?

30% of both of you being wolf is nowhere near rand, theres 28 combinations of 2 partners (I think) and this one combo being 30% is really high.

Multitasking atm so will try to answer properly later as to partners and who is least likely after Epi. Game is confusing me atm.

[dunya]

I feel like every time I ask you to give a take on Carot action X or Carot action Y you like, silently shrug your shoulders and go "I guess that's reasonable" or "yeah I think it's right" or "tbh I'm not convinced by your case on her".

after isoing nanook for carot relationship, this is exactly the same impression i got from him.

carot and nanook can be teammates from nanook's side.
and nanook can be temmates with mac.

i need to check carot on nanook now.

[dunya]

i mean it could be as easy as mac and alison.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dunya is there a reason sabie/Alison doesn’t work as a team FYPOV or...?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also, yes, carot IS basically a shrug from me. I keep going between them being slightly townie or slightly scummy, nothing I’ve read from them has really pushed the needle much

[dunya]

i had tutuu lock town. her personality type is one i mesh with easily and feel like i can read well, and the emotion in a lot of her posts feel townie-inspired rather than coming from an alien. she showed frustration with a number of players for not understanding her, and i feel like wolf tutuu would be more patient and less quick to snap on a couple of occasions (one was when she explained to you what POE meant in a sassy way). idk, gut read. taking it to end game with me.

also sabie just now refusing to "derp clear" herself through epi's observation is very townie.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Send like most if not everyone disagrees with my reads. Maybe I’ll just hard sheep your reads and hope for the best, idk.

[dunya]

carot is a question mark for me too

alison is in my poe

did i ask you why you townread mac?

[dunya]

also tutuu shot out posts at rapid speed. it wasnt someone concerned about how they came across.