Space Invaders [END]

#3851

KABLAM!

#3852

#3853

If I die nutella is fine by being only protected by Epignosis okay

#3854

Darkest Hour

nutella moved to the control room. It was time to fire the laser gun for the 5th time.

The pressure was huge. People were starting to question if she was fit for that job. Some were saying the alien kills in the frist two nights were flukes. Some even said it was fake news by some political group to make her look competent. But nutella knew she had made good calls at the time. She had the skill. She just needed to find it again.

Well, she would have to keep looking.

dunya (Bunker) was killed.

Night 5 Begins!

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3855

i'm so tired

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3856

how many saves does everyone have left

#3857

well fuck me

#3858

i have 3 saves

#3859

ridiculously quiet

#3860

#3861

dunya? Seriously?

#3862

What the hecka

#3863

Okay new game: is this salvageable

#3864

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:33 pmi'm so tired

You're on the brink of blowing this. Perhaps you understand how I felt in Ziggy Stardust Mafia.

#3865

No matter what happens tonight we are loosing at N6 if no alien is blasted

i'll tell you in a while if we should do an organized chain protect.

#3866

Three people recommended Alison die.

One person (TonyStarkPrime, who nobody thinks is good) advocated killing dunya.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3867

[mention]protocultures[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention] protections please

#3868

Basically need to try and keep the people Nutella want alive tomorrow alive through the night and everyone needs at least 1 save they can credibly claim to aliens that they hold going into night 6. After night 5 I don't think we should confirm any saves at all to anyone if it confirms you have no bunker saves left.

Not going to push any plans unless Nutella wants one since I suspect paranoia is high everywhere. I will say though that Epi and I are almost never aliens together because of Sabie flip. It's almost mechanically confirmed. Basically it's confirmed to non-pedants. This means you can get by on 2 of us for tonight if you don't want to pick one person. I would be scared to pick 1 person in your shoes.

I'm getting a bit scared of epi again ngl simply because all the world's keep shrinking. Nutella keep telling me that's literally impossible so I don't start posting again on why they could be.

Alison let me know if you still lock townread epi. I'm assuming yes because from your perspective it's carotenoid/TSP?

#3869

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:11 pmi'll tell you in a while if we should do an organized chain protect.

It doesn't change much and it's a strategy that require a minimum of trust so nah, whatever.

#3870

If Nutella can bet the game that epi is town, I think we can mechanically force some interesting results. It's like a pseudo dayshot in the night.

#3871

We can force a no kill, or they can only kill your one selected person at night.

That's the benefit of betting the game on 1 person being town.

I think it's worth the gamble in our situation.

#3872

Do we gain another shot if nobody dies over night 5?

Someone double-check my idea.

Are we still forced to hit alien in day 6 or insta lose?

#3873

protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:53 pm Do we gain another shot if nobody dies over night 5?

Someone double-check my idea.

Are we still forced to hit alien in day 6 or insta lose?

No we don't.

Yeah, alien or insta lose.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3874

I..... don't think that's right but I'm only confusing myself thinking about it

#3875

Well okay, to be fair, we insta loose N6 if we don't hit an alien before unless aliens do a level 5 bad play.

#3876

Just shoot Alison and it will be okay argh

#3877

I'm just gonna work it out on mobile.

4 bunkers alive now in night 5.
If nobody dies it's 4 bunkers alive on day 6.
Nutella shoots a bunker. 3 bunkers left.
3 bunkers alive going into night 6.

Why do we lose? Didn't this buy an extra misshot if aliens no kill?

#3878

2 aliens have two nightkills on even night.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3879

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:09 pm 2 aliens have two nightkills on even night.

But it would still be technically possible for the protections to shake out.

It's not likely but it's not a literal auto loss.

#3880

Right so 2 KP on night 6.3 bunkers. Can't kill 3 bunkers and can't kill Nutella. Town tries to protect Nutella and land a save.

Day 7 Nutella gets a shot. If we hit mafia and landed a save the prev night, we get another shot day 8 but that's it.

#3881

if we misshoot then we probably get another shot but there's no backing off. We have to be dead right. If we miss on day 7 it's more forgiving.

#3882

protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:14 pm Right so 2 KP on night 6.3 bunkers. Can't kill 3 bunkers and can't kill Nutella. Town tries to protect Nutella and land a save.

Day 7 Nutella gets a shot. If we hit mafia and landed a save the prev night, we get another shot day 8 but that's it.

Count the number of saves left

#3883

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:13 pm Three people recommended Alison die.

One person (TonyStarkPrime, who nobody thinks is good) advocated killing dunya.

I also advocated killing Alison. For the record.

#3884

So let's say epi protects Nutella.
Everyone else chain.
One person unprotected.

Means aliens can only kill 1 person or no kill in night 5.

I think killing is better for aliens because if they kill tonight and we ML on day 6, aliens auto win I think.

So we get a pseudo shot in night 5 by chaining. Right? Out the scunmiest person unprotected overnight and see if they die.

If not they prob mafia unless wifom

#3885

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:13 pm Three people recommended Alison die.

One person (TonyStarkPrime, who nobody thinks is good) advocated killing dunya.
I also advocated killing Alison. For the record.

I advocated Dunya/Mac/Carotenoid yesterday.

#3886

protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:24 pm So let's say epi protects Nutella.
Everyone else chain.
One person unprotected.

Means aliens can only kill 1 person or no kill in night 5.

I think killing is better for aliens because if they kill tonight and we ML on day 6, aliens auto win I think.

So we get a pseudo shot in night 5 by chaining. Right? Out the scunmiest person unprotected overnight and see if they die.

If not they prob mafia unless wifom

they probably just no kill. how many people do we have at 2? I'm at three.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3887

protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:24 pm So let's say epi protects Nutella.
Everyone else chain.
One person unprotected.

Means aliens can only kill 1 person or no kill in night 5.

I think killing is better for aliens because if they kill tonight and we ML on day 6, aliens auto win I think.

So we get a pseudo shot in night 5 by chaining. Right? Out the scunmiest person unprotected overnight and see if they die.

If not they prob mafia unless wifom

oohh this makes sense hm

#3888

I'm not thinking about this anymore lol
@me if you do decide to do some sort of chain

#3889

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:28 pm @protocultures @MacDougall protections please

okely dokely

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3890

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:28 pm @protocultures @MacDougall protections please
okely dokely

I'm not sure, this could change by end of night just fyi

#3891

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:31 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:24 pm So let's say epi protects Nutella.
Everyone else chain.
One person unprotected.

Means aliens can only kill 1 person or no kill in night 5.

I think killing is better for aliens because if they kill tonight and we ML on day 6, aliens auto win I think.

So we get a pseudo shot in night 5 by chaining. Right? Out the scunmiest person unprotected overnight and see if they die.

If not they prob mafia unless wifom
they probably just no kill. how many people do we have at 2? I'm at three.

From memory - not checked - start of this night phase
Epi on 1
Proto on 2
Carotenoid in 2
Tony on 3
Mac on 3
Alison on 3

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #3892

hmmmm

#3893

Not saying the chain is good, just let's try and help Nutella get an alien on day 6. No point having bunker saves if we run out of bunkers.

If I made mistake somewhere ideally point it out early so can fix it before end of phase.

#3894

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:28 pm @protocultures @MacDougall protections please
okely dokely
I'm not sure, this could change by end of night just fyi

ur the bauss bauss

#3895

lol and of course it was going to be me...

Good luck townies!

#3896

I might just try and work out something that guarantees us a day 8. That’s probably the best we can hope for.

#3897

Like if we chain today and aliens go no kill is that enough?

#3898

@Nutella, if you had to bet the farm on a scum team right now, what would it be?

#3899

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:20 am Like if we chain today and aliens go no kill is that enough?

It gets an extra ML I think if they no kill.

If they kill, we reduced Poe.

We spend a LOT of saves as a trade off along with Nutella needing to bet the farm on one saver

#3900

well, potential to ML, not a guaranteed ML