Space Invaders [END]

[protocultures]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

[TonyStarkPrime]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night

[TonyStarkPrime]

borderline want to call that tmi

[protocultures]

like this is essentially lylo. Epi probably has the least mechanical stuff going for him. No there's that whole "I'm protecting nutella" thing on day 1 ughggghgh

im pretty sure it was all part of his 5head plan and he never actually saved Night 1

[TonyStarkPrime]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night

moreover I mean literally like 20 minutes ago you thought I was a wolf for making the assumption that Epi tries to blast nutella and wins

[TonyStarkPrime]

like this is essentially lylo. Epi probably has the least mechanical stuff going for him. No there's that whole "I'm protecting nutella" thing on day 1 ughggghgh

im pretty sure it was all part of his 5head plan and he never actually saved Night 1

someone just count his actions.

[protocultures]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night

the earlier posts today.

Carotenoid obv didnt save Nutella since they wanted to clear Epi from being the single saver.
I agreed with clearing Epi (for non pendants) and I would not do that if I had actually saved Nutella last night.
Nobody else is saying they saved Nutella last night. If they did and havent said, they are kinda throwing.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night

the earlier posts today.

Carotenoid obv didnt save Nutella since they wanted to clear Epi from being the single saver.
I agreed with clearing Epi (for non pendants) and I would not do that if I had actually saved Nutella last night.
Nobody else is saying they saved Nutella last night. If they did and havent said, they are kinda throwing.

hold on I have a post that will highlight hypocrisy

[protocultures]

epi/alison?

no world with epi

tell me why.

Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.

unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML

I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.

what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night

moreover I mean literally like 20 minutes ago you thought I was a wolf for making the assumption that Epi tries to blast nutella and wins

look in earlier in day posts.

the first point is the pendant point.

the second point is one I thought of just now.

[TonyStarkPrime]

"misleading town to bad conclusions" pfffffft, proto you're saying Epignosis is lock town too

you said you and epi are lock town because you saved epi at night.

2 people hasnt claimed yet.

your conclusion was bad.

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah I'm just getting stuff out there Proto, I see the development.

[TonyStarkPrime]

nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you

[protocultures]

Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.

okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.

[nutella]

nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you

I'm never shooting any of epi, mac, or proto today

[protocultures]

If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.

his claimed night 1 save doesnt clear him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

[protocultures]

Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.

okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.

second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)

[TonyStarkPrime]

nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you

I'm never shooting any of epi, mac, or proto today

I know I don't have much weight on this, but... you're biased AS HELL. I'm not scum hunting as much as I'd like to because I lack time (screw real life and the pandemic...), and it's hard to hunt with the amount of constant pushes at me for CRAP reasons (you didn't like my "interesting", and since then you began throwing everything you could at me...). If you weren't death tunneling me, you would notice that I'm trying to do my townie's job EVEN THOUGH I'M BUSY AND PRESSURED TO DEFEND MYSELF. You would also notice that me expressing a townread on Trenton and just showing how KZA misread a post (that's not debatable, just read the damn quote AXIS) is me doing what town SHOULD do, instead of instantly thinking I'm pulling some sort of damn machiavellian scheme.
You're like those people in Ancient Aliens saying that if there's something common between human cultures, it's because AlIeNs CrEaTeD uS instead of just going with the more plausible, less far-fetched hypothesis: evolution and the common branch between all humans who originated from Africa. Now don't get me wrong, I think you're a very capable player and actually like you. I'm just fed up with your death tunnel that takes up time, energy and posts. REEVALUATE.

also nutella lurking wolf confirmed

why aren't you shooting mac?

[protocultures]

If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.

Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.

Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.

We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.

3 things.

okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.

second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)

yeah it's what made me change my mind, but I've seen Epi be a pretty aggressive wolf. Epi as wolf also overuses the "I never bus" line when he's just bussed, the first point can be seen in that fashion, but really like. I don't think so.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol

i saved nutella.

[protocultures]

If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol

You have to have a claim from someone else that they saved Nutella to make your case against Epi. There is no claim.

[TonyStarkPrime]

somebody got shot last night. I would personally have shot at me. carot would also be a popular target if she's town cause we know the scum team thinks I do the fps and I don't do the fps.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot

To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.

Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.

Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol

You have to have a claim from someone else that they saved Nutella to make your case against Epi. There is no claim.

literally this is why linki exists

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself

[Carotenoid]

TSP right now -->

[TonyStarkPrime]

not worth it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

shameless meta argument:
tsp as a wolf would be much more coordinated

[protocultures]

wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself

I have no idea what this is.

I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.

You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.

You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.

Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?

[Carotenoid]

proto it's because he's alien

[protocultures]

I dont want to shoot Alison.

I want to shoot mac, but Nutella never doing it. I assume are no flips which make Nutella re-assess Mac either so it is what it is.

Carotenoid - im fine with shooting.

TSP - i need to check earlier logs re start of day but im going to sleep now. Im fine with shooting anyway probably.

Epi - please dont shoot my poker/UFC bro.

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself

I have no idea what this is.

I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.

You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.

You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.

Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?

i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves

[TonyStarkPrime]

proto it's because he's alien

okay you're the one who deserves the reevaluate

[TonyStarkPrime]

town has at worst 50/50 odds if it can lock in the scum team and I get shot. Which is worse than I was hoping for.

[protocultures]

wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself

I have no idea what this is.

I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.

You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.

You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.

Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?

i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves

a team with Mac/Alison can shoot carotenoid since Mac is near outside of Nutella POE and push you.

[protocultures]

post your flowchart solve if you die so I can read in the morning pls.

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself

I have no idea what this is.

I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.

You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.

You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.

Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?

i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves

a team with Mac/Alison can shoot carotenoid since Mac is near outside of Nutella POE and push you.

Alison Mac and alison proto are the only two teams that consider it. alison proto doesn't consider it because to you it's not something I would do. That feels very genuine. something like alison mac, yeah it could happen but then I present nutella with a mechanical solve that always works and allows me to get misshot because we come to the conclusion instantly that it's alison mac.

I did think through that one.

[TonyStarkPrime]

post your flowchart solve if you die so I can read in the morning pls.

I'm still working on it.

[nutella]

ngl it feels kinda horrible that all of you have dumped so much time and effort into analysis and figuring out the game and I could still just lose it for yall


the pressure is really a lot


I'm sorry if I fuck this up, really feels like town deserves the win and it could just come down to a single bad decision by me

[TonyStarkPrime]

ngl it feels kinda horrible that all of you have dumped so much time and effort into analysis and figuring out the game and I could still just lose it for yall


the pressure is really a lot


I'm sorry if I fuck this up, really feels like town deserves the win and it could just come down to a single bad decision by me

don't worry, your bad decisions in the past of this game are much worse than anything you could do now, if that makes you feel better

[TonyStarkPrime]

it probably doesn't. oh well.

[nutella]

lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

on days 3,4, and 5 you made what seemed like pretty clearly suboptimal, while understandable, kills. in this position I have absolutely no clue, nor even a reasonable guess, what your best course of action is. all of the rage that can be directed at you is now in the past.

[protocultures]

You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.

We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.

You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I really don't want to be playing mafia right now.

I'm gonna wake up, solve the game maybe, but probably not do anything more than read through the two flipped isos and try to figure out where to go from there.

[protocultures]

You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.

We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.

You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.

I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.

[TonyStarkPrime]

You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.

We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.

You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.

I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.

another clear point for epi/proto