Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

yo not everything sticks to my brain like glue
did they post anything else after claiming that?

It’s okay to not remember every post. I meant more literally: what’s your take on her claim?

She made four more posts after that. None of them was substantive.

[Millium]

What are you referring to regarding the "raised hand" Wisp?

I asked people to raise their hand, aka type o/ if they are town
and Con responded almost immediately
wolves more or less avoid these posts usually, or respond with the wrong answer

like I said, I will see how it translate into his posts though

Wait wait wait...

0/

That's all it takes to find mafia to you?

See who types a zero and a slash?

And how does anyone respond with the wrong answer? Use a bracket?

0]

Spoiler: show

easily, mafia are fucking dopes, just look at the team mafia game, where Eevee said, "Type Bread if you are town", and the first person to respond, responded with the wrong word, and flipped mafia

(I think it was bread)

this is not something I worship, its just a game for getting decent reactions and micro reads
and definitely not the whole of how I solve the game?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

how the hell does Nanook have 75 posts...

He’s been one of the most active hunters in the game.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wisp is significantly >rand town based on meta fwiw

dont meta read me
but I am curious what you think this meta is?

Why would I not meta read you

I’ve literally never read you wrong in a forum game

I mean if this game says anything than sure? but I have no idea your reads on me from other games. I think you called me town in the Team Mafia game, I don't recall what you read on my was in the Draft Mafia game on Mafia451

but that still doesnt answer my question, what exactly is the meta read? or is this simply "I have a big brain and I have never been wrong", which helps literally no one but yourself

I also had you town after like 12 posts in that game I subbed into on 451 with like 8,000 posts where they killed you anyways then very rudely NKed me

I correctly called you town in spec chat for g6

I had you town in the team game too

I don’t remember you being in the draft game tbh but I’m going to assume I correctly read you there too

Idk what you mean it doesn’t help anyone but myself, if I have a high accuracy read on you that helps everyone

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

how the hell does Nanook have 75 posts...

Cause I’m a fucking god get at me

[Millium]

Fine I'll let Nanook do his thing
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Funny's iso consists of

hi
lmao
also hard claiming miller
yea buddy
hi I'm jacking off
this phase we're gonna off a jack

so ya this can die? their claim feels more like a meme than anything, probably one of the least real ones from what I remember
definitely getting a vibe that makes me think they care

[VOTE: funnygirl] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Look, I get it, it’s frustrating when I can look at you and go “yeah that’s town, next,” we all want to think our scum games are too good to be read that quickly. The fact is I do have that read on you and you are town, so I suggest instead of bitching about my awesomeness you get on board the hype train cause we’re halfway to the North Pole already

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Funnygurl reads to me like someone that doesn’t feel comfortable making posts in this thread.

[Millium]

Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

so my push in Nanook is bad?
but this is nice pocket from Nanook, which definitely doesn't insinuate a town lean

you talk about other people looking worse than Nanook, but then you vote Jagged, when people like Funnygirl have terrible early games isos

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
leaving Funnygirl on the back burner for now
I want Alison to respond to my posts

[KitsuShel]

I am here and trying to catch up. Holy crap, y’alls play style is hella different than what I’m used to.

At this point nobody is used to anybody’s style anymore. We morph with the passing breeze. I am e x c i t e d for your t a k e s.

It's definitely more fast-paced than I'm used to! I'm still trying to read through the thread (I'm off from work today and have my 4 year old up my backside, lol) and get used to the site's navigation. I should be good in a little bit.

[Millium]

Funnygurl reads to me like someone that doesn’t feel comfortable making posts in this thread.

I can definitely see that, given that they havent responded with anything serious yet, which could mean they are having a hard time entering the game as a wolf

[Millium]

I also had you town after like 12 posts in that game I subbed into on 451 with like 8,000 posts where they killed you anyways then very rudely NKed me

well hey I had a red check on me, so

[Millium]

I also had you town after like 12 posts in that game I subbed into on 451 with like 8,000 posts where they killed you anyways then very rudely NKed me

well hey they* had a red check on me, so

EDWOP

[Alison]

Alison has a 23 posts to 0 instances of the word "pure" ratio.

There's a civilian right there.

[Alison]

I think she’s townreading me now!

yep

[Alison]

Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

elaborate?

It's unclear to me why Wisp is pushing nanook for not doing anything when plenty of other people haven't done anything either and it's well within standard nanook behavior to not do much, in the first ten pages of the game especially. Also even if you disregard that, nanook stating a soft lock town on Epi was probably more content than many other people in the game anyway.

#269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.

sure just let me vote everyone I guess
you arguing that, many others are doing the same thing, is more of a discredit than an arguement
I know exactly what Nanook is capable of, as both alignments, I guess we can argue his behavior is still pretty NAI, but I don't want to

I'm not saying vote everyone, I'm saying "if you believe effort put into the game in the first 10 pages is alignment-indicative, then nanook is probably the worst person to use this tell on, because he's the one who it's most not-alignment-indicative of".

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am here and trying to catch up. Holy crap, y’alls play style is hella different than what I’m used to.

At this point nobody is used to anybody’s style anymore. We morph with the passing breeze. I am e x c i t e d for your t a k e s.

It's definitely more fast-paced than I'm used to! I'm still trying to read through the thread (I'm off from work today and have my 4 year old up my backside, lol) and get used to the site's navigation. I should be good in a little bit.

I’ve got a one and a half year old crawling all over me I can relate

[Alison]

Like what you did was you said (or implied, at least) that "people who don't put in effort are scum". And then you voted the guy who always jokes around for the first few pages... who isn't even the slankiest player in the thread. It makes no sense to me and looks like you're just finding a reason to pick on nanook.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I also had you town after like 12 posts in that game I subbed into on 451 with like 8,000 posts where they killed you anyways then very rudely NKed me

well hey I had a red check on me, so

And yet I still townread you, that’s how good I am

[Funnygurl555]

@Hally how do you distinguish among the others that have claimed miller when you decide Tony seems okay and the others are joking?

um, idk? fg’s and nanook’s looked like jokes to me but tony seemed like he intended his to be serious

he had that thing about “it’s conditional” which i don’t get really (how can a miller be conditional? conditional on what?) but seemed serious. also his reaction to wisp voting him for “trying to discredit hally’s claim” where he was like “no im trying to do the opposite” seemed legit?

like idk, just the way he’s gone about it seems like he intends the claim to be taken seriously whereas nanook and fg do not. whether that makes tony’s claim real is another thing but im not sure why he’d think being the second one to claim miller would be a good idea as scum

mine is serious

[Millium]

Like what you did was you said (or implied, at least) that "people who don't put in effort are scum". And then you voted the guy who always jokes around for the first few pages... who isn't even the slankiest player in the thread. It makes no sense to me and looks like you're just finding a reason to pick on nanook.

maybe I am
also I am allowed to bully Nanook, because he bullies me
at this point I want to see trains getting built more or less

[Funnygurl555]

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

oh ok are you scum? 'cause this is bs. i spent most of the phase so far asleep

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The best way to gain Wisp’s favor is to make accusations without voting.

[Alison]

JAgged's read on me doesnt feel like something he made up
Personally, he is not someone who I would argue is a good lynch day 1, and anything against him right now just feels a bit nitpicky
Me and him will most likely be top posting by the end of day 1, and I am not interested in this slot in the slightest as long as his progressions feel natural

This post is nonsensical. Players in and of themselves can't be bad lynches D1 - if they're mafia they're definitely a good lynch D1. Barring some extremely weird meta concerns, it's very difficult for me to see how JJJ can always be a bad lynch Day 1 regardless of alignment. I also don't understand how "top posting" has anything to do with alignment. Top posters D1 in the Space Invader game were proto/Alison/Mac and two of those players were scum.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

oh ok are you scum? 'cause this is bs. i spent most of the phase so far asleep

I have no clue what your sleep schedule is. You’re here now so take it away.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like what you did was you said (or implied, at least) that "people who don't put in effort are scum". And then you voted the guy who always jokes around for the first few pages... who isn't even the slankiest player in the thread. It makes no sense to me and looks like you're just finding a reason to pick on nanook.

maybe I am
also I am allowed to bully Nanook, because he bullies me
at this point I want to see trains getting built more or less

I don’t bully you bb I love you here’s a bunch of hearts and a kissy face to prove it

[Funnygurl555]

I think this game is off to a strong start. I feel pretty decent about the state of things and about the civilian reads I have generated so far. Keep this up and we'll be just fine gang.

are you scum?

[Alison]

Look, I get it, it’s frustrating when I can look at you and go “yeah that’s town, next,” we all want to think our scum games are too good to be read that quickly. The fact is I do have that read on you and you are town, so I suggest instead of bitching about my awesomeness you get on board the hype train cause we’re halfway to the North Pole already

why did you make this post nanook

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think this game is off to a strong start. I feel pretty decent about the state of things and about the civilian reads I have generated so far. Keep this up and we'll be just fine gang.

are you scum?

No

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Look, I get it, it’s frustrating when I can look at you and go “yeah that’s town, next,” we all want to think our scum games are too good to be read that quickly. The fact is I do have that read on you and you are town, so I suggest instead of bitching about my awesomeness you get on board the hype train cause we’re halfway to the North Pole already

why did you make this post nanook

Cause I have an amazing and not at all trolly sense of humor

[Millium]

JAgged's read on me doesnt feel like something he made up
Personally, he is not someone who I would argue is a good lynch day 1, and anything against him right now just feels a bit nitpicky
Me and him will most likely be top posting by the end of day 1, and I am not interested in this slot in the slightest as long as his progressions feel natural

This post is nonsensical. Players in and of themselves can't be bad lynches D1 - if they're mafia they're definitely a good lynch D1. Barring some extremely weird meta concerns, it's very difficult for me to see how JJJ can always be a bad lynch Day 1 regardless of alignment. I also don't understand how "top posting" has anything to do with alignment. Top posters D1 in the Space Invader game were proto/Alison/Mac and two of those players were scum.

lmao I get this same argument every game, I swear to god
if you want to look for every possible malicious act in every god damn post, you do you
I'm not seeing anything from Jagged yet that makes me squint.

and if what you said it true, those 3 people probably weren't getting lynched day 1 regardless?

[Funnygurl555]

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

oh ok are you scum? 'cause this is bs. i spent most of the phase so far asleep

I have no clue what your sleep schedule is. You’re here now so take it away.

you don't need to know my sleep schedule. we're only ~13? 14? hours into this game, and yet you're tryna make an activity read on me.

it's whatever i don't think you're /really/ scum atm but i got my eye on you

anyways hally's town, but that's obv

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Funnygurl looks more fake than she did before.

[Funnygurl555]

Fine I'll let Nanook do his thing
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Funny's iso consists of

hi
lmao
also hard claiming miller
yea buddy
hi I'm jacking off
this phase we're gonna off a jack

so ya this can die? their claim feels more like a meme than anything, probably one of the least real ones from what I remember
definitely getting a vibe that makes me think they care

[VOTE: funnygirl] aubergine

this one's even more bs than jjj fwiw but w/e

[Alison]

Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

so my push in Nanook is bad?
but this is nice pocket from Nanook, which definitely doesn't insinuate a town lean

you talk about other people looking worse than Nanook, but then you vote Jagged, when people like Funnygirl have terrible early games isos

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

@JaggedJimmyJay
leaving Funnygirl on the back burner for now
I want Alison to respond to my posts

I see nothing wrong with Funnygurl's posts. She has this entrance literally every game and you can go and look at her past games if you don't believe me.

Also yes I was suspicious of that post but nanook later cleared it up by:

- Saying that he did it in a game where he was town (I couldn't find the post where he did this to Epi specifically, but I do remember him throwing out a bunch of reads and clearing people after talking to them for a bit)

- And if that isn't enough, saying that the read is short-term and that it will either confirm Epi to be town if he continues it, or mafia if he discontinues it. This suggests that he is prepared to explain his read more clearly later on in the game.

The basis of suspecting nanook throwing out an early "Epi is town" for no real reason is because it looks a lot like nanook just wants Epi to trust him and think favorably of him by giving him towncred. But if nanook is willing to demonstrate that he does this as town, as well as explain the basis behind his read (even if he only does it later on), that assuages a lot of my concerns about the read and moves it closer to a normal read with proper explanation and reasoning, which is obviously not very suspicious.

[Funnygurl555]

Funnygurl looks more fake than she did before.

ok we're fighting

[Millium]

"when you hit submit and your post just yeets it self"
nett

[mention]Alison[/mention]
Nanook is also certainly capable of NAI'ing up day 1, with posts here and there that can be perceived as game solving

@alison
wait are u the same Alison from Flow? this could easily explain why we are butting heads again

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean I think I’ve been pretty townie tbh

And I’ve solved more than you have so

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Basically what I’m saying is talk to the hand cause the ears aren’t listening

[Alison]

JAgged's read on me doesnt feel like something he made up
Personally, he is not someone who I would argue is a good lynch day 1, and anything against him right now just feels a bit nitpicky
Me and him will most likely be top posting by the end of day 1, and I am not interested in this slot in the slightest as long as his progressions feel natural

This post is nonsensical. Players in and of themselves can't be bad lynches D1 - if they're mafia they're definitely a good lynch D1. Barring some extremely weird meta concerns, it's very difficult for me to see how JJJ can always be a bad lynch Day 1 regardless of alignment. I also don't understand how "top posting" has anything to do with alignment. Top posters D1 in the Space Invader game were proto/Alison/Mac and two of those players were scum.

lmao I get this same argument every game, I swear to god
if you want to look for every possible malicious act in every god damn post, you do you
I'm not seeing anything from Jagged yet that makes me squint.

and if what you said it true, those 3 people probably weren't getting lynched day 1 regardless?

Not seeing anything from Jagged that makes you sus of him is fine. "Jagged isn't a good lynch D1", "any attack against Jagged is nitpicky", and "I am not interested in [Jagged] in the slightest" feels like you have him down as a fairly confident townread though.

[Alison]

I have no doubt that nanook is capable of NAI'ing it up D1 as scum. Not sure how that is a response to anything I've said so far.

[Millium]

JAgged's read on me doesnt feel like something he made up
Personally, he is not someone who I would argue is a good lynch day 1, and anything against him right now just feels a bit nitpicky
Me and him will most likely be top posting by the end of day 1, and I am not interested in this slot in the slightest as long as his progressions feel natural

This post is nonsensical. Players in and of themselves can't be bad lynches D1 - if they're mafia they're definitely a good lynch D1. Barring some extremely weird meta concerns, it's very difficult for me to see how JJJ can always be a bad lynch Day 1 regardless of alignment. I also don't understand how "top posting" has anything to do with alignment. Top posters D1 in the Space Invader game were proto/Alison/Mac and two of those players were scum.

lmao I get this same argument every game, I swear to god
if you want to look for every possible malicious act in every god damn post, you do you
I'm not seeing anything from Jagged yet that makes me squint.

and if what you said it true, those 3 people probably weren't getting lynched day 1 regardless?

Not seeing anything from Jagged that makes you sus of him is fine. "Jagged isn't a good lynch D1", "any attack against Jagged is nitpicky", and "I am not interested in [Jagged] in the slightest" feels like you have him down as a fairly confident townread though.

maybe I missed a few, "at this time" additions to that post
usually, the only super confident town leans I have on day 1 are due to meta

[Millium]

I'll be back later, I am trying to finish Trails in the Sky 3 by the end of today
peace

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] tell me about your vote

[Alison]

JJJ what do you think of Wisp's opinion about you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JJJ what do you think of Wisp's opinion about you?

I’m unsurprised. Wisp and I just teamed up for a historic town obliteration in the champs tournament (game 6), and it lends itself to the development of confidence in this game. I’d be perturbed to see the opposite read.

I believe Wisp is a civilian at this point.

[Hally]

All of a sudden Spacedaisy is one of my top civilian reads. It's a "soul read" if you will, but I get a great sense of purity from dem posts.

i totally agree

[Alison]

JJJ what do you think of Wisp's opinion about you?

I’m unsurprised. Wisp and I just teamed up for a historic town obliteration in the champs tournament (game 6), and it lends itself to the development of confidence in this game. I’d be perturbed to see the opposite read.

I believe Wisp is a civilian at this point.

I see. I was wondering why you didn't suspect that you could be pocketed.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ll take your daisy read as gospel if you’ll give FG some time to get into the game

[Hally]

Rao's marinara sauce tier -- I want this on my pasta at all times. Not eliminating.
Hally
Spacedaisy

Prego fresh mushroom sauce tier -- I may not necessarily be blown away, but it gets the job done. Not eliminating without being presented with a great reason.
Epignosis
Nanook
sabie12
TonyStarkPrime
Wisp

Plain spaghetti with no sauce tier -- This exists, and when you're starving with no alternatives it works I guess. Suspect pool.
ColinIsCool
KitsuShel

Mid's marinara sauce tier -- It's expensive and seems like it should be good, but something intangible doesn't work for me. I am conflicted. Suspect pool.
Alison

Ragu marinara sauce tier -- V8 tomato juice may have more substance. There are posts here, but none of them inspire any feeling in me. Suspect pool.
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Long Con
sprityo

yeah, this is a good sorting atm (or at least from where i am rn)

also lol at the pasta sauce