Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[dunya]

i dont want you to roleclaim,

i mean like explicitly state the differences if any lol

[Long Con]

So, is moth going to be able to give us a check today?

[Long Con]

He's trium with Cayvie, so he should feel Glorious enough.

[Long Con]

Epignosis is known to make mechanical gaming less sturdy though. I wouldn't be surprised if he put in several cops, but some/all of them are insane.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Actually I think we should probably all claim starting glory levels

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If Mac is a cop he’s not insane, he claimed a green on sloonei who has since flipped green

[Long Con]

head over to the shop and buy some glory moth

how doth I do that

If Moth hadn't bought anything yet, then he definitely had enough Sol to buy 0.2 Glory and perform his trick. However, his trick was:

also my role is messenger. Im a rolecop but the way it works is I choose a player and whoever they voted for theyll get a message giving them a role description if who they had voted.

So, unless moth is absolutely not even trying to help in this game, someone should have received a check message.

Moth himself won't have any results to tell us.

[Long Con]

If Mac is a cop he’s not insane, he claimed a green on sloonei who has since flipped green

Nice.

[dunya]

If Mac is a cop he’s not insane, he claimed a green on sloonei who has since flipped green

also he could be mafia with tmi tho.

i just don't believe epi is so unoriginal he'd stick in 2 exact alignment cops into the game. it's weird as hell to me. an alignment cop is the strongest role in any mafia game. having TWO of them is pure madness to me and dunya does not compute

[Long Con]

Actually I think we should probably all claim starting glory levels

My starting Glory was 1.0. My current Glory is in the shitter.

I had a Glorious plan to secure the win, but that is also down the shitter. Last night took all the wind out of my sails.

[dunya]

Actually I think we should probably all claim starting glory levels

My starting Glory was 1.0. My current Glory is in the shitter.

I had a Glorious plan to secure the win, but that is also down the shitter. Last night took all the wind out of my sails.

what have you been doing with all your sols?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If Mac is a cop he’s not insane, he claimed a green on sloonei who has since flipped green

also he could be mafia with tmi tho.

i just don't believe epi is so unoriginal he'd stick in 2 exact alignment cops into the game. it's weird as hell to me. an alignment cop is the strongest role in any mafia game. having TWO of them is pure madness to me and dunya does not compute

I would assume there’s some fuckery involved if they’re both town telling the truth yeah

IIRC carot said something like “90% an alignment cop” or something along those lines so may not be as straightforward.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dunya how much glory did you start at?

Would like [mention]MacDougall[/mention] and [mention]Carotenoid[/mention] to answer too when around

[Long Con]

Actually I think we should probably all claim starting glory levels

My starting Glory was 1.0. My current Glory is in the shitter.

I had a Glorious plan to secure the win, but that is also down the shitter. Last night took all the wind out of my sails.

what have you been doing with all your sols?

Various very intelligent things. My prize possession was:


Permanently inherit the role ability of someone who has been banished (15 Sol)

I inherited the tracker role and I was going to win the game for us, but it is smashed now, and I have nothing.

[dunya]

If Mac is a cop he’s not insane, he claimed a green on sloonei who has since flipped green

also he could be mafia with tmi tho.

i just don't believe epi is so unoriginal he'd stick in 2 exact alignment cops into the game. it's weird as hell to me. an alignment cop is the strongest role in any mafia game. having TWO of them is pure madness to me and dunya does not compute

I would assume there’s some fuckery involved if they’re both town telling the truth yeah

IIRC carot said something like “90% an alignment cop” or something along those lines so may not be as straightforward.

did she's her role was like 90% the same as hers lol

anyway i started with 1.2 glory

[dunya]

are people selling their bodies for more sols? cos sign me up?

[Long Con]

are people selling their bodies for more sols? cos sign me up?

Did you smash my stuff? You've been pretty shitty to me all game, you are a top suspect. Tell me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What the actual fuck guys where is my fucking glory jfc I feel so robbed rn

[dunya]

did she's her role was like 90% the same as hers lol

wtf am i saying

i meant didn't she say her role was like 90% the same as macs?

[Carotenoid]

I think it's not like totally impossible we're both town but I am really not confident in this statement

I started at .6 I think

[Long Con]

What the actual fuck guys where is my fucking glory jfc I feel so robbed rn

Have you been anointed?

[dunya]

Various very intelligent things. My prize possession was:


Permanently inherit the role ability of someone who has been banished (15 Sol)

how the fuck did you afford that + various intelligent things?

does not compute

[dunya]

What the actual fuck guys where is my fucking glory jfc I feel so robbed rn

i mean it was very short lived.

[Long Con]

Various very intelligent things. My prize possession was:


Permanently inherit the role ability of someone who has been banished (15 Sol)

how the fuck did you afford that + various intelligent things?

does not compute

I'm good with money.

[dunya]

Did you smash my stuff? You've been pretty shitty to me all game, you are a top suspect. Tell me.

awww i hope you don't actually think i'm being shitty to you LC. that makes the game less fun for both of us. you're one of my favs, but you're also very cunning and i know what you're capable of so you don't get an easy ride.

i didn't smash your stuff, but that is a super cool role to have and i wish i did.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What the actual fuck guys where is my fucking glory jfc I feel so robbed rn

Have you been anointed?

I don’t know what that means so I assume not

[dunya]

What the actual fuck guys where is my fucking glory jfc I feel so robbed rn

Have you been anointed?

I don’t know what that means so I assume not

you know, when celeste and tariq choose smeone. they don't like our tri ;_;

[Carotenoid]

Vote recap with colors

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Triumvirates

The Accusers (2) : moth, Soneji
The Dissidents (3) : KZA, Carotenoid, Master Radishes
The Essence (3) : Sloonei, nutella, Long Con
The Fate (3) : Marcher Jovian, Turnip Head, tedxtr
The Nightwings (3) : Lissa, outed wolf, bronana
The Pyrehearts (3) : MacDougall, motobot, TonyStarkPrime
The Tempers (3) : NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, dunya, tutuu
No vote (1) : DrWilgy


D1 vote
Carotenoid (6) : bronana, outed wolf, moth, tedxtr, KZA, Lissa
DrWilgy (4) : Carotenoid, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, motorboat, Long Con
Marcher Jovian (2) : Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime
Master Radishes (7) : nutella, Turnip Head, dunya, DrWilgy, Marcher Jovian, tutuu, Sloonei
No vote (2) : MacDougall, Soneji

D2 vote
(not on poll - bronana)

Spoiler: show

24 hours into D2 votecount

Carotenoid (1) : moth
DrWilgy (1) : NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
KZA (4) : Turnip Head, dunya, Sloonei, Marcher Jovian
MacDougall (1) : outed wolf
Marcher Jovian (3) : bronana, tedxtr, KZA
outed wolf (2) : nutella, TonyStarkPrime
Soneji (1) : Lissa
Turnip Head (1) : MacDougall
No vote (5) : Carotenoid, DrWilgy, Long Con, motobot, Soneji

Interesting™ moment
~ 28-33 hours into D2
Carotenoid (1) : moth
DrWilgy (2) : dunya, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lissa (1) : Marcher Jovian
Marcher Jovian (2) : tedxtr, KZA
nutella (1) : Sloonei
outed wolf (2) : nutella, MacDougall
Sloonei (3) : Turnip Head, bronana, Lissa
Soneji (1) : outed wolf
Turnip Head (3) : TonyStarkPrime, Long Con, Carotenoid
No vote (3) : DrWilgy, motobot, Soneji

Carotenoid (1) : moth
DrWilgy (6) : tedxtr, Lissa, dunya, motobot, nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Marcher Jovian (2) : outed wolf, bronana
moth (1) : Turnip Head
Soneji (1) : DrWilgy
Turnip Head (7) : Marcher Jovian, TonyStarkPrime, KZA, Long Con, Sloonei, Carotenoid, MacDougall
No vote (1) : Soneji

D3
(not on poll - Long Con)

Spoiler: show

15h54 EST
DrWilgy (3) : NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Sloonei, moth
KZA (1) : TonyStarkPrime
Lissa (3) : dunya, Marcher Jovian, MacDougall
Marcher Jovian (5) :  Lissa, KZA, bronana, nutella, outed wolf
outed wolf (2) : Long Con, DrWilgy
Sloonei (1) : cayvie
No vote ( 2) : Carotenoid, motobot

DrWilgy (5) : motobot, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, cayvie, Sloonei, moth
Marcher Jovian (9) : Lissa, KZA, bronana, dunya, nutella, DrWilgy, Long Con, outed wolf, Carotenoid
Sloonei (3) : TonyStarkPrime, MacDougall, Marcher Jovian

D4 vote
(not on poll - Lissa)
Carotenoid (1) : DrWilgy
DrWilgy (3) : motobot, Carotenoid, TonyStarkPrime
Long Con (1) : nutella
MacDougall (3) : cayvie, moth, dunya
TonyStarkPrime (7) : outed wolf, MacDougall, Long Con, bronana, Sloonei, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lissa

TonyStarkPrime (7) : outed wolf, MacDougall, Long Con, bronana, Sloonei, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lissa

I'm still confused how he got banished over DrWilgy. The worse thing is that his wagon doesn't even seem wolf-driven

[Long Con]

Honestly, I do think you've been shitty to me, I don't know if my getting two wolf wins close together makes you want some kind of revenge, or what.

Take this for instance:

I don’t think we have a general consensus on how to handle being a cop. My strategy is to use it on players I am struggling to develop a read on one way or the other, but I’m not Mac so I don’t know how he’d use it.

If Mac is a town cop, then how things played out make the most obvious sense. He rides along with Jovian on a Sloonei vote to maintain some distrust for his NK survival, and then Jovian slams us with capital WIFOM about Sloonei, making you someone we need to figure out. Is Jovian doing it because he's your teammate? Is he trying to put suspicion on a villager? How much thread time do we want to spend discussing it?

Very little. So Mac checks you and is done with Jovian's last-ditch effort to mess with us.

if mac is wolf, this is suuuuuper wolfy

Not in any way, really.

Obviously I just have my own point of view, but I can't see any reason why you would call this honest and likely accurate analysis of what happened wolfy. It "does not compute".

On top of that I directly disagreed with you and you didn't even bother to qualify why you found it wolf. I wasn't even worth replying to, all I'm worth to you is someone to dump suspicion on.

Don't feel too bad though, you're far from the only one in this game to act like my posts are pieces of dogshit that you avert your eyes from as you walk past it on the sidewalk.

[DrWilgy]

I'm trying to understand how DrWilgy didn't get banished, what did he do that was townie?

What did you do that was townie?

I asked first.

And I asked last.

I've voiced multiple subjects and arguments for lynches to which I've been ignored. Hbu?

[dunya]

isnt DrWilgy with the accusers?

[Long Con]

I got anointed. I got a little stat boost in each stat, like buying a little set of slug Market tokens.

[Long Con]

I bet that Tariq and Celeste are independent roles whose goal is to have the most anointed and alive people by the end of the game. If that's true, then we have two players whose motives are not scum or town related , and they will push to yeet or save based on their own selfish win condition.

[dunya]

Obviously I just have my own point of view, but I can't see any reason why you would call this honest and likely accurate analysis of what happened wolfy. It "does not compute".

lol @ your last sentence.

what i don't like is your stance on mac. on one hand, you were suspecting him then you immediately went into a long explanation on why he's town that felt strange to me. i didn't feel genuine progression or suspicion on mac and it made me feel like you either have tmi or you're his teammate.

he claims that he has been townreading sloonei all game, but the whole marcher eod shit? that makes you rub your chin.

basically, why aren't you paranoid of mac?

[DrWilgy]

are people selling their bodies for more sols? cos sign me up?

I want in on this business. Care for some friendly competition?

[dunya]

are people selling their bodies for more sols? cos sign me up?

I want in on this business. Care for some friendly competition?

i can't compete with you around. everyone wants to be licked by wilgy

[Long Con]

Obviously I just have my own point of view, but I can't see any reason why you would call this honest and likely accurate analysis of what happened wolfy. It "does not compute".

lol @ your last sentence.

what i don't like is your stance on mac. on one hand, you were suspecting him then you immediately went into a long explanation on why he's town that felt strange to me. i didn't feel genuine progression or suspicion on mac and it made me feel like you either have tmi or you're his teammate.

he claims that he has been townreading sloonei all game, but the whole marcher eod shit? that makes you rub your chin.

basically, why aren't you paranoid of mac?

I was suspicious and stupid when I didn't believe turnip head's claim, how do you think I'm going to react when the next big claim comes along. Kill Mac?

[Long Con]

And what the hell are you expecting me to rub my chin about? That exact post that you called Wolfie explained in detail why I find Mac believable.

[Long Con]

... in that I discussed the marcher eod shit

[dunya]

And what the hell are you expecting me to rub my chin about? That exact post that you called Wolfie explained in detail why I find Mac believable.

that's what felt like tmi to me. like you didn't want to consider mac was lying.

do you think town mac role claimed at an ideal time itt?

[DrWilgy]

are people selling their bodies for more sols? cos sign me up?

I want in on this business. Care for some friendly competition?

i can't compete with you around. everyone wants to be licked by wilgy

Business partners then

[Long Con]

I don't know what's ideal, that's probably Nanook's territory. I actually don't much like that he revealed his green check on Sloonei at all, because it got him killed whether Mac is good or bad.

I'm not considering deeply whether Mac is good or bad, what I'm considering is that I'm not rushing towards killing another awesome role's claimant by assuming a lie again.

[DrWilgy]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] ignoring Mac's claim altogether.

Do we think that Mac behaved the way he did at the EoD Jovian lynch with Sloonei being civ?

[DrWilgy]

@Long Con ignoring Mac's claim altogether.

Do we think that Mac behaved the way he did at the EoD Jovian lynch with Sloonei being civ?

Edit, subject relation was lost as I scatterbrained while typing.

Do you think Mac as a civ behaved the way he did at the EoD Jovian lynch after Sloonei flip?

[DrWilgy]

Dammit nvm. That question doesn't even voice what I'm trying to say well enough.

No more mafia while outages are happening at work.

[Long Con]

@Long Con ignoring Mac's claim altogether.

Do we think that Mac behaved the way he did at the EoD Jovian lynch with Sloonei being civ?

Yes. It was smart civilian play.

[Long Con]

Not exactly sure what you're asking, but if Mac is a civilian cop, then acting suspiciously in order to garner suspicion is smart play. Whichever Mac stuff you are suspicious of would only make sense, like, he's doing it right.

[nutella]

spill it dunya
or dunya wanna

that's an excellent spin on my u/n.

much better than the classic RYM "i dunya" ;p

i dunno, i'm enjoying seeing mac squirm and try to spin it around on me. his reactions are golden. so i think i'll keep listening to him...

considering he is voting for me though, i assume that RED CHECK is on me.

i'm waiting for nanook to enter the thread so i can throw some "mechanical" stuff at him and see if it sticks.

????

which part are you ????

i caught both Mac and carotte lying. unless something really crazy happened. i'm kinda proud of myself, but i think i'm overreaching there and i'm gonna be disappointed by at least one of them so i won't get ahead of myself until i get confirmation on a couple of grey areas. waiting for confirmation

.....what

[nutella]

why would you assume he voted his red check when he specifically said he didn't want to claim who it was yet

this is very weird dunya

[nutella]

Alternatively, how are we viewing Hazelnut right now?

After sleeping on the offness I felt yesterday, I'm still confused.

She's being a big disappointment, but she's town.

when am I not tbh