Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Hally]

i think people respond to pressure different ways and yea, some town just end up making themselves look worse through their response. by pulling out the rug from under her before she’s gotten settled, you might be setting her up to fail regardless of her alignment. thats why i said something

[Funnygurl555]

do you actually expect that fg would enter a game and see you post a take she agrees with before she herself has said anything and go “alison must have said this thing specifically to pocket me, i cant town read her now”? that doesnt feel like a reasonable expectation to me, but if you think it is based on your history with her, again i’ll leave you to it

I think FG has played with me often enough as scum to know that I frequently make logical, sensible posts that raise good points as scum, and therefore the act of saying something she agrees with is at best NAI. I don't see her going "oh, Alison is saying something that I agree with, she must be town" for the same reason it would be strange to see someone who has played with nanook go "oh, nanook seems very relaxed and carefree, he must be town".

i mean you're right here but why would i be scum for it? shouldn't it just be strange?

[Epignosis]

I think this game is off to a strong start. I feel pretty decent about the state of things and about the civilian reads I have generated so far. Keep this up and we'll be just fine gang.

are you scum?

No

Wrong word!

[Hally]

do you actually expect that fg would enter a game and see you post a take she agrees with before she herself has said anything and go “alison must have said this thing specifically to pocket me, i cant town read her now”? that doesnt feel like a reasonable expectation to me, but if you think it is based on your history with her, again i’ll leave you to it

I think FG has played with me often enough as scum to know that I frequently make logical, sensible posts that raise good points as scum, and therefore the act of saying something she agrees with is at best NAI. I don't see her going "oh, Alison is saying something that I agree with, she must be town" for the same reason it would be strange to see someone who has played with nanook go "oh, nanook seems very relaxed and carefree, he must be town".

ok, fair enough

[Epignosis]

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

oh ok are you scum? 'cause this is bs. i spent most of the phase so far asleep

I have no clue what your sleep schedule is. You’re here now so take it away.

you don't need to know my sleep schedule. we're only ~13? 14? hours into this game, and yet you're tryna make an activity read on me.

it's whatever i don't think you're /really/ scum atm but i got my eye on you

anyways hally's town, but that's obv

Oh dear.

[Funnygurl555]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Hally]

i mean, she could also just be scum. time will tell

[Funnygurl555]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

[Millium]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

[Hally]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

could you elaborate more?

[Alison]

i think people respond to pressure different ways and yea, some town just end up making themselves look worse through their response. by pulling out the rug from under her before she’s gotten settled, you might be setting her up to fail regardless of her alignment. thats why i said something

Nah. I saw a game recently where FG got hard bussed by her partner really early on and was sussed by half the game because of a really scummy EoD1, and she was basically impossible to lynch that game. Like there were five attempts at killing her and she talked her way out of every one.

FG doesn't just fold over and die when she's under pressure. She has game. If she's town I trust she will show that game to me.

[Funnygurl555]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

could you elaborate more?

his posts don't associate him with anyone. he has no real reads or pushes, though he's posting a lot. most of his posts are joking around, which at this stage is fine i guess, but it's not townie. the real kicker is the lack of real suspicions atm

and i mean FINE maybe i don't have the best meta on him but there's ppl out here actually town reading him for it which is odd. when he was universally town-read in escape from trump tower i was on board with town reading him too

[Alison]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

are you just copying my reasons to scum read FG

[Epignosis]

Rao's marinara sauce tier -- I want this on my pasta at all times. Not eliminating.
Hally
Spacedaisy

Prego fresh mushroom sauce tier -- I may not necessarily be blown away, but it gets the job done. Not eliminating without being presented with a great reason.
Epignosis
Nanook
sabie12
TonyStarkPrime
Wisp

Plain spaghetti with no sauce tier -- This exists, and when you're starving with no alternatives it works I guess. Suspect pool.
ColinIsCool
KitsuShel

Mid's marinara sauce tier -- It's expensive and seems like it should be good, but something intangible doesn't work for me. I am conflicted. Suspect pool.
Alison

Ragu marinara sauce tier -- V8 tomato juice may have more substance. There are posts here, but none of them inspire any feeling in me. Suspect pool.
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Long Con
sprityo

yeah, this is a good sorting atm (or at least from where i am rn)

also lol at the pasta sauce

I haven't seen enough from sabie, Spacedaisy, or TonyStarkPrime to say any of them are good. I agree about Hally, Nanook and Wisp, and I would include JJJ in there.

I had never heard of Rao's before (I usually make my own sauces), but I was shopping today and spied it on the shelf. Seven damn dollars for a jar of marinara? I think not.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

Git gud

[Hally]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

could you elaborate more?

his posts don't associate him with anyone. he has no real reads or pushes, though he's posting a lot. most of his posts are joking around, which at this stage is fine i guess, but it's not townie. the real kicker is the lack of real suspicions atm

and i mean FINE maybe i don't have the best meta on him but there's ppl out here actually town reading him for it which is odd. when he was universally town-read in escape from trump tower i was on board with town reading him too

ok

im trying to remember why i tr him in the first place. lemme check

[Funnygurl555]

i think people respond to pressure different ways and yea, some town just end up making themselves look worse through their response. by pulling out the rug from under her before she’s gotten settled, you might be setting her up to fail regardless of her alignment. thats why i said something

Nah. I saw a game recently where FG got hard bussed by her partner really early on and was sussed by half the game because of a really scummy EoD1, and she was basically impossible to lynch that game. Like there were five attempts at killing her and she talked her way out of every one.

FG doesn't just fold over and die when she's under pressure. She has game. If she's town I trust she will show that game to me.

[Epignosis]

nanook i think the phrase you’re looking for is “town lean”

It’s considerably stronger

To rephrase....

I saw town indicative behavior from Epi. Epi is good enough to fake that behavior over a short amount of time. If he’s town, the behavior will continue. If he’s mafia, it won’t. So, he’s probably clear, but not 100% clear. Thus, soft locked

uhhh y'all shouldn't be town reading epi yet tho....

Go on.

[Millium]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

are you just copying my reasons to scum read FG

between these posts and their earlier posts, this is a good vote
idk what else I could add on that you havent already stated

[Millium]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
answer my question...

[Funnygurl555]

nanook i think the phrase you’re looking for is “town lean”

It’s considerably stronger

To rephrase....

I saw town indicative behavior from Epi. Epi is good enough to fake that behavior over a short amount of time. If he’s town, the behavior will continue. If he’s mafia, it won’t. So, he’s probably clear, but not 100% clear. Thus, soft locked

uhhh y'all shouldn't be town reading epi yet tho....

Go on.

i already did and im voting for you 8)

[Alison]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

are you just copying my reasons to scum read FG

between these posts and their earlier posts, this is a good vote
idk what else I could add on that you havent already stated

acceptable answer

[Epignosis]

I'm probably not going to get into the other pile.

You've at least got to level up from Ragu.

[Hally]

are there iso links for this game?

[Epignosis]

Spoiler: show

Epignosis is a civilian for shitting in my cereal when I wasn't here yet.

Hally is a civilian for being the first miller claim and for displaying ~[the energy]~

Wisp is a civilian for ordering me to vote for a dude before I determined I agreed with him.

sabie12 is a civilian for acknowledging the miller claim pile in a way that suggests she doesn't give a crap.

nai

I see no reason to call Long Con a civilian.

I see no reason to call Funnygurl555 a civilian. I may harbor active suspicion of her merely for being so quiet to start an otherwise active game.

I see no reason to call DrWilgy a civilian.

I think other people are playing. Let me look. Yeah they have no posts yet.

scummy. it's easy to suspect anyone in this pile later on

Note that we need to remain in a state of high urgency at all times. Jack is a host from the HC Realms tree, and that means we cannot trust conventional assumptions about how alignments may be distributed. When I see 15 players, I tend to assume 12 vs. 3 is the most standard. With Jack though, I will not count out 11 vs. 4 or even 10 vs. 5 (with potential independent involvement too). It depends upon the arrangements of the roles he has decided to feature.

The point is that we cannot fart around in a Jack game. Play hard at all times or suffer the consequences.

odd/nai?

>game started and I didnt even know, alright bet

You're right on time. The game isn't difficult to read; the posts are small. I'm ready for your takes sprityo. You've an underrated penchant for making strong early reads, and you're also the only player on The Syndicate other than myself to be >50% in win rate with over 40 games played. Let's ruin those who would threaten our claim to glory, yes?

pocket attempt?

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

e.e

In a sprityo-knows-a-claimer-is-mafia-and-is-their-teammate-kind-of-TMI-manner-hyphen-words

scummy

Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

Loose feeling entrance, scum are maybe a bit less likely to jokingly claim miller imo

She does this every game regardless of alignment. I've played a few games with her and I think she's null.

thx

Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

ima town read alison 'cause we're mind melding

I see your explanation now Alison (for some reason stuff is getting missed in my linki) and yeah, that's just Jay.

i was gonna vote for jjj at the end of this but y'all are really saying this is his meta

ok

This post exists. I do not know why this post exists.

[Funnygurl555]

Spoiler: show

Epignosis is a civilian for shitting in my cereal when I wasn't here yet.

Hally is a civilian for being the first miller claim and for displaying ~[the energy]~

Wisp is a civilian for ordering me to vote for a dude before I determined I agreed with him.

sabie12 is a civilian for acknowledging the miller claim pile in a way that suggests she doesn't give a crap.

nai

I see no reason to call Long Con a civilian.

I see no reason to call Funnygurl555 a civilian. I may harbor active suspicion of her merely for being so quiet to start an otherwise active game.

I see no reason to call DrWilgy a civilian.

I think other people are playing. Let me look. Yeah they have no posts yet.

scummy. it's easy to suspect anyone in this pile later on

Note that we need to remain in a state of high urgency at all times. Jack is a host from the HC Realms tree, and that means we cannot trust conventional assumptions about how alignments may be distributed. When I see 15 players, I tend to assume 12 vs. 3 is the most standard. With Jack though, I will not count out 11 vs. 4 or even 10 vs. 5 (with potential independent involvement too). It depends upon the arrangements of the roles he has decided to feature.

The point is that we cannot fart around in a Jack game. Play hard at all times or suffer the consequences.

odd/nai?

>game started and I didnt even know, alright bet

You're right on time. The game isn't difficult to read; the posts are small. I'm ready for your takes sprityo. You've an underrated penchant for making strong early reads, and you're also the only player on The Syndicate other than myself to be >50% in win rate with over 40 games played. Let's ruin those who would threaten our claim to glory, yes?

pocket attempt?

Given my [limited] experience playing with and observing Funnygurl, I would describe her civilian play as engaged, dangerous, and alive. She reminds me of Literal Jack in that way.

Her seven posts so far strike me as timid, and the miller claim is meaningless. This isn't the start I would anticipate from her.

e.e

In a sprityo-knows-a-claimer-is-mafia-and-is-their-teammate-kind-of-TMI-manner-hyphen-words

scummy

Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

Loose feeling entrance, scum are maybe a bit less likely to jokingly claim miller imo

She does this every game regardless of alignment. I've played a few games with her and I think she's null.

thx

Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

ima town read alison 'cause we're mind melding

I see your explanation now Alison (for some reason stuff is getting missed in my linki) and yeah, that's just Jay.

i was gonna vote for jjj at the end of this but y'all are really saying this is his meta

ok

This post exists. I do not know why this post exists.

pfffffffffffffffffffffffftfftffffffttttttttttttttttt

[Alison]

This post exists. I do not know why this post exists.

to create the impression of doing things while actually doing nothing

very useful technique as scum

[Epignosis]

Some of my posts got hung up and didn't go through:

What are you referring to regarding the "raised hand" Wisp?

I asked people to raise their hand, aka type o/ if they are town
and Con responded almost immediately
wolves more or less avoid these posts usually, or respond with the wrong answer

like I said, I will see how it translate into his posts though

Wait wait wait...

0/

That's all it takes to find mafia to you?

See who types a zero and a slash?

And how does anyone respond with the wrong answer? Use a bracket?

0]

Spoiler: show

easily, mafia are fucking dopes, just look at the team mafia game, where Eevee said, "Type Bread if you are town", and the first person to respond, responded with the wrong word, and flipped mafia

(I think it was bread)

this is not something I worship, its just a game for getting decent reactions and micro reads
and definitely not the whole of how I solve the game?

I'm going to refrain from overusing the mullet man, but you do you.

[Epignosis]

This one too:

I am here and trying to catch up. Holy crap, y’alls play style is hella different than what I’m used to.

At this point nobody is used to anybody’s style anymore. We morph with the passing breeze. I am e x c i t e d for your t a k e s.

It's definitely more fast-paced than I'm used to! I'm still trying to read through the thread (I'm off from work today and have my 4 year old up my backside, lol) and get used to the site's navigation. I should be good in a little bit.

I’ve got a one and a half year old crawling all over me I can relate

I'll be the father of a teenager in less than a fortnight.

[Millium]

I guess FG is scum after all

[VOTE: funnygurl] aubergine

i still town read u ;_____________;

@Funnygurl555
so you arent simply tunneling on Jagged because he is scum reading you?

naaaaaaaaaaah. but i do sus people who sus me when i'm town. i'm lhf so it *is* data.

but every time i do that i also get my panties up in a bunch and have bad early game reads. anyways i'ma ignore jjj's posts for now 'cause y'all are saying he's nai

my no yeet pile atm is

epi
jay
daisy
wisp
nanook
sabie?
tony?

alison could be there maybe but idk. i simply dont have any confidence in my ability to read her. she’s someone i think id probably only get to by getting her teammates first. thinking about it more and i dont think drawing a comparison to how she played last game will be that fruitful because her whole team was in a very bad spot early on, including herself. i have no idea what she’d be capable of as scum when she has less pressure but my guess is “a lot”

colin
sprityo
kitsu
fg
wigly
lc

these are the names left out. feels like a pretty basic sorting but eh, gotta start somewhere

your scum pile is lhf fwiw. syndicate's good at both projecting town and distancing from team members. don't buy in to the ~pOe~s thanks

im aware! but at this stage of the game, that’s all i got

its not so much a scum pile as a “here are people i dont town read yet” pile

r u townreading most of the game then

the I still town read you part is especially telling, feels more like appealing
else I see no difference as to why they don't treat Alison the same as others voting them

naaaaaaaaaaah. but i do sus people who sus me when i'm town. i'm lhf so it *is* data.
this means nothing to me, you also can't call yourself low hanging fruit

your scum pile is lhf fwiw. syndicate's good at both projecting town and distancing from team members. don't buy in to the ~pOe~s thanks
talk to me about your reads please
I do like your thoughts on Epi
Why is Alison a town read for you

ok maybe the bolded above isn't as bad as I first thought
but I would have felt better if they gave some thoughts with it, instead of telling Hally they were just wrong

[Hally]

actually i honestly dont know why i was tring epi? i just tried to iso him and i actually cant recall what gave me that read

[Millium]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
idk what u mean by mullet man
gun to your head, 3 town leans, 3 mafia leans

[Hally]

yea, epi can be null. sorry epi

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Funnygurl's assessments of me don't look genuine. I don't see a need to continue harping on this, however, and I will leave her to do her business in this game thread for the time being. My own read is known and clear.

[Epignosis]

Epi soft locked as town imo

what does soft locked as town even mean

It means I think he’s *probably* cleared but I reserve the right to change my mind later if he does something that negates it

Basically he did something/didn’t do something that I think is townie but it’s too early in the day to hard lock it cause Epi is not a bad player, so for now it’s a soft lock and if it continues to happen/not happen then it becomes a hard lock later

I’ve done this successfully in the past, notably in the alien game we just played and on D1 (I think?) of take me out at the ballgame

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

Is there something the matter with being all over the place?

[Hally]

Funnygurl's assessments of me don't look genuine. I don't see a need to continue harping on this, however, and I will leave her to do her business in this game thread for the time being. My own read is known and clear.

why did you tr epi again? i iso’d him just now and actually cant remember why i had that read, but i kinda agree with fg that i was maybe too generous with that. i have no idea what scum!epi looks like though

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I thought Epignosis had the right look in his initial treatment of me, before I showed up. Given my essentially open-mafia play in Ziggy Stardust (I finished with about 40 posts ), that he took notice of my delayed entrance and threw poop about it is fitting. He has developed his perspectives too in a way that I don't think is suggestive of a nefarious agenda.

[Millium]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

Is there something the matter with being all over the place?

yes, it feels like you are just attacking everything, and I want to know where you stand

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis
answer my question...

Hammering the mention button isn't going to get anything out of me. I'll post what I think when I'm good and ready.

[Hally]

I thought Epignosis had the right look in his initial treatment of me, before I showed up. Given my essentially open-mafia play in Ziggy Stardust (I finished with about 40 posts ), that he took notice of my delayed entrance and threw poop about it is fitting. He has developed his perspectives too in a way that I don't think is suggestive of a nefarious agenda.

wdym, developed perspectives? like what?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I thought Epignosis had the right look in his initial treatment of me, before I showed up. Given my essentially open-mafia play in Ziggy Stardust (I finished with about 40 posts ), that he took notice of my delayed entrance and threw poop about it is fitting. He has developed his perspectives too in a way that I don't think is suggestive of a nefarious agenda.

wdym, developed perspectives? like what?

Hold fast, I am gathering the quotes.

[Hally]

I thought Epignosis had the right look in his initial treatment of me, before I showed up. Given my essentially open-mafia play in Ziggy Stardust (I finished with about 40 posts ), that he took notice of my delayed entrance and threw poop about it is fitting. He has developed his perspectives too in a way that I don't think is suggestive of a nefarious agenda.

wdym, developed perspectives? like what?

Hold fast, I am gathering the quotes.

hahaha sorry

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Fwiw Epi jumping at everyone is fairly townie ime

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Funnygirl] aubergine
so we got

1. Their wall on Jagged is just busy work
2. They shade hally's list with giving their own thoughts on the players in this list

Question, if everyone is allergic to pressure, how exactly do we catch mafia?

@Epignosis
talk to me about where you stand, you are all over the place
give me 3 town leans, and 3 scum leans

Is there something the matter with being all over the place?

yes, it feels like you are just attacking everything, and I want to know where you stand

I already said this:

Spoiler: show

Rao's marinara sauce tier -- I want this on my pasta at all times. Not eliminating.
Hally
Spacedaisy

Prego fresh mushroom sauce tier -- I may not necessarily be blown away, but it gets the job done. Not eliminating without being presented with a great reason.
Epignosis
Nanook
sabie12
TonyStarkPrime
Wisp

Plain spaghetti with no sauce tier -- This exists, and when you're starving with no alternatives it works I guess. Suspect pool.
ColinIsCool
KitsuShel

Mid's marinara sauce tier -- It's expensive and seems like it should be good, but something intangible doesn't work for me. I am conflicted. Suspect pool.
Alison

Ragu marinara sauce tier -- V8 tomato juice may have more substance. There are posts here, but none of them inspire any feeling in me. Suspect pool.
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Long Con
sprityo

yeah, this is a good sorting atm (or at least from where i am rn)

also lol at the pasta sauce

I haven't seen enough from sabie, Spacedaisy, or TonyStarkPrime to say any of them are good. I agree about Hally, Nanook and Wisp, and I would include JJJ in there.

I had never heard of Rao's before (I usually make my own sauces), but I was shopping today and spied it on the shelf. Seven damn dollars for a jar of marinara? I think not.

That's where I'm at right now.

[Alison]

What if Hally/FG are both wolves?

Like the interactions between them seem sort of awkward and this has been bothering me for a bit, but if I think of them as both wolves struggling to strike a balance between attacking each other too much and townreading each other too much, and having the bit of natural awkwardness that comes with most W/W interaction, it makes sense in my head. I think aggressively fakeclaiming Miller is well within Hally's scum range too.

The only problem I have is how scum!Hally figured out that there were Millers in the game to make their Miller claim believable, since it would be improbably lucky of them to just randomly claim Miller and then it turns out there really were a bunch of Millers in the game.

[Alison]

Fwiw Epi jumping at everyone is fairly townie ime

haven't seen enough of scum Epi's play to know how well he can fake it but he certainly is playing very closely to how he was in Space Invaders, yes

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis reads progressions I have liked:

On Nanook

Spoiler: show

I think all three miller claims are town!

Council of millers ftw

I don't believe you believe this.

Epi soft locked as town imo

Why?

Are you town?

That doesn't answer my question.

I think all three miller claims are town!

Council of millers ftw

I don't believe you believe this.

I don’t believe I care

Nanook is bad

Disagree.

On me

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Wake up.

i think we can safely stop talking about my claim now

lettuce focus on those who aren’t me

JaggedJimmyJay has zero posts. Talk about him.

Rao's marinara sauce tier -- I want this on my pasta at all times. Not eliminating.
Hally
Spacedaisy

Prego fresh mushroom sauce tier -- I may not necessarily be blown away, but it gets the job done. Not eliminating without being presented with a great reason.
Epignosis
Nanook
sabie12
TonyStarkPrime
Wisp

Plain spaghetti with no sauce tier -- This exists, and when you're starving with no alternatives it works I guess. Suspect pool.
ColinIsCool
KitsuShel

Mid's marinara sauce tier -- It's expensive and seems like it should be good, but something intangible doesn't work for me. I am conflicted. Suspect pool.
Alison

Ragu marinara sauce tier -- V8 tomato juice may have more substance. There are posts here, but none of them inspire any feeling in me. Suspect pool.
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Long Con
sprityo

yeah, this is a good sorting atm (or at least from where i am rn)

also lol at the pasta sauce

I haven't seen enough from sabie, Spacedaisy, or TonyStarkPrime to say any of them are good. I agree about Hally, Nanook and Wisp, and I would include JJJ in there.

I had never heard of Rao's before (I usually make my own sauces), but I was shopping today and spied it on the shelf. Seven damn dollars for a jar of marinara? I think not.

I also have liked the way he has dealt with Wisp. There are numerous quotes there that I don't care to spam into this post, so go have a look if y'all want. Essentially I believe Epignosis had set the table to antagonize people I view as civilians (Nanook and Wisp) and a person I know is civilian (JJJ). Instead though he has had his pokes and landed on early civilian judgments. That supports the teamwork dynamic, and I think it looks authentic.

[Alison]

I also have liked the way he has dealt with Wisp. There are numerous quotes there that I don't care to spam into this post, so go have a look if y'all want. Essentially I believe Epignosis had set the table to antagonize people I view as civilians (Nanook and Wisp) and a person I know is civilian (JJJ). Instead though he has had his pokes and landed on early civilian judgments. That supports the teamwork dynamic, and I think it looks authentic.

I don't understand this - you're saying that you think Nanook, Wisp and yourself are civillian, and that Epi is also civillian because he reads you all as civillian rather than antagonize you? Why wouldn't he do this as scum?

[Millium]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
ok I see it, thanks