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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:39 pm
How does anyone have a good read on a zero poster
well given that the point of the game is to force a read on everyone,
I am not going to call a no-poster bad when they haven't even made a post
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear. Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings… you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
I maintain that zero or near-zero posters should be treated as null because 99% of the time zero posters don't post because of NAI things like real life obligations or lack of interest in the game (I guess this is scummy if you're in a "I hate rolling scum" meta but that's borderline angleshooty and I don't care to take it into consideration unless it's very strongly meta indicative of a specific player).
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:17 pm
If we set aside the "how does scum Hally know there's a Miller" question I think I'd be scumleaning on them. I do think their individual vibe is townie but their interactions with FG I think are scummy and it's easier to fake individual actions than interactions, especially with a scumbuddy.
well given that you think they give a town vibe on an individualistic level, and we don't know what FG will flip even though I am leaning towards mafia, I think it's pretty gross
I think it's easier to fake interactions than an individual's actions, so let's agree to disagree there
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear. Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings… you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:17 pm
If we set aside the "how does scum Hally know there's a Miller" question I think I'd be scumleaning on them. I do think their individual vibe is townie but their interactions with FG I think are scummy and it's easier to fake individual actions than interactions, especially with a scumbuddy.
well given that you think they give a town vibe on an individualistic level, and we don't know what FG will flip even though I am leaning towards mafia, I think it's pretty gross
I think it's easier to fake interactions than an individual's actions, so let's agree to disagree there
I don't understand why the uncertainty behind FG's flip makes my read on their interactions less valid.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
and then you going about using this as your own defense makes the above mean so much less
it's even better when you realize this was posted before my first post and i missed it the first time
wait, you weren't even mentioned in that post... why did I said that...
Why didnt anyone call me out
why did you respond like that?
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear. Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings… you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
ya I thought you were highlighting a post about yourself
woops
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear. Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings… you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Why did nobody pick up my theory when I mentioned it and then everyone goes from online and present for the GTH game to vanishing immediately when I mentioned it again
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Why did nobody pick up my theory when I mentioned it and then everyone goes from online and present for the GTH game to vanishing immediately when I mentioned it again
I responded
Whether we live or die isn’t a big issue. If you focus on being alive, you develop fear. Your eyes get clouded. But if you have no such feelings… you are capable of fighting right to the end of the world.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Why did nobody pick up my theory when I mentioned it and then everyone goes from online and present for the GTH game to vanishing immediately when I mentioned it again
I support you in your desire to extract answers for your grievances. Question to your heart's content.
I am not moved personally. Hally is my strongest civilian read in the game, and a pre-flip association with Funnygurl doesn't change that. I don't think the association is particularly compelling either.
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What I'm doing is not a pre-flip association. A pre-flip association is weak because it is susceptible to exactly what Wisp said. If Hally is scum only they have an association with FG and I think FG is scum, then my reads are a house of cards - if FG flips town then the Hally read is totally invalidated.
But that is not what I am doing. I am pointing to a behavior that they are both engaging in - awkward interaction - and saying that it is behavior that reflects badly on both of them and makes them both more likely to be scum.
Also Hally admitted themselves that the interaction was awkward - they said "it's a good case if not for the fact that I'm town", which they wouldn't say if they didn't agree that the interaction was in fact awkward and did to some degree make them both look like scum buddies.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
[mention]Alison[/mention]
are those interactions in your ISO? if not can you point them out again
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Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 pm
What I'm doing is not a pre-flip association. A pre-flip association is weak because it is susceptible to exactly what Wisp said. If Hally is scum only they have an association with FG and I think FG is scum, then my reads are a house of cards - if FG flips town then the Hally read is totally invalidated.
But that is not what I am doing. I am pointing to a behavior that they are both engaging in - awkward interaction - and saying that it is behavior that reflects badly on both of them and makes them both more likely to be scum.
Also Hally admitted themselves that the interaction was awkward - they said "it's a good case if not for the fact that I'm town", which they wouldn't say if they didn't agree that the interaction was in fact awkward and did to some degree make them both look like scum buddies.
I have further thoughts, but I'd prefer Hally and FG each respond on their own before I do.
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My confidence in various active players suggests some mafia presence among the players with few or no posts. I could beef with Wilgy for having bothered to make a post last night while the game was still moving without attempting any meaningful involvement.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:12 am
@TonyStarkPrime
I'm sick of watching you suffer tragic losses. If you're a civilian, please do me a favor and make it as plain to me as possible. You don't have to play at the level of Game 7 if you don't have that in you right now, but please try to show me those goods. I think you're reasonably readable as long as you want to be.
Has TSP done anything to make you react like this?
This post confuses me greatliy
lost like five games in a row in absolutely terrible fashion.
jay is offering to save me.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 pm
What I'm doing is not a pre-flip association. A pre-flip association is weak because it is susceptible to exactly what Wisp said. If Hally is scum only they have an association with FG and I think FG is scum, then my reads are a house of cards - if FG flips town then the Hally read is totally invalidated.
But that is not what I am doing. I am pointing to a behavior that they are both engaging in - awkward interaction - and saying that it is behavior that reflects badly on both of them and makes them both more likely to be scum.
Also Hally admitted themselves that the interaction was awkward - they said "it's a good case if not for the fact that I'm town", which they wouldn't say if they didn't agree that the interaction was in fact awkward and did to some degree make them both look like scum buddies.
I have further thoughts, but I'd prefer Hally and FG each respond on their own before I do.
to what?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:52 pm
We are polar opposites in the most delightful way.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:20 pm
Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.
literally rand%
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:52 pm
We are polar opposites in the most delightful way.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:20 pm
Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:20 pm
Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.
literally rand%
Based on game state/other townreads, decent amount of rand imo
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Why did nobody pick up my theory when I mentioned it and then everyone goes from online and present for the GTH game to vanishing immediately when I mentioned it again
this sentiment of “why isnt anyone paying attention to my ideas” is >rand town ime because town actually care about getting people to engage with their ideas
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:20 pm
Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.
literally rand%
Why is that equal to a random distribution?
if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.
anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot
y'all
y'all
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:52 pm
We are polar opposites in the most delightful way.