Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[DrWilgy]

I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?

No, I thought Dunya was town.

After the 3rd day of being a wagon in a row, I figured only civ powers would be going towards me and thought I may as well redirect it to a civ. Don't see why a wolf targets me in the position I was in.

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i mean

still you'd expect them to be negative or at best neutral/investigative civ powers, though, yeah?

????

Not really. Most of the powers I've seen out of civs are strictly positive or money redistributing.

[Lissa]

I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?

No, I thought Dunya was town.

After the 3rd day of being a wagon in a row, I figured only civ powers would be going towards me and thought I may as well redirect it to a civ. Don't see why a wolf targets me in the position I was in.

....what


this makes no sense


if you're a consensus suspect, the only town roles that are gonna target you are gonna be negative ones

why would you target someone you thought was town then

literally nothing about your claim makes sense from a town or honest perspective, sorrynotsorry

ya this

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Goddammit. Carot and Mac are scum and are power playing wtf.

Then we’ll get em tomorrow

[DrWilgy]

w/e I'm over arguing my role against a fake red check. I thought the other cycles were stupid, but this one is just dumb.

When Mac wins after this cycle, GG.

If the game isn't over after this, don't lynch Dunya believing Mac further.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

w/e

I'm a chicken shit and have a action redirect.
Didn't have enough Glory day 1, purchased glory for n2 and targeted Soneji as a freebie, then Mac followed by Dunya. I was not notified to if my redirect did anything.

Here's the thing though if the redirect happened, I do not think Mac red checked Dunya, if the redirect didn't, he didn't red check me. Again, he chose the easiest player to red check and just threw it. Now we have another 24 hours without discussion and I'm just going to die.

How does your redirect work exactly

[Carotenoid]

hmmmn I think DrWilgy w spills a lot of people town

Is it possible that motobot bussed a partner four days in a row?

[nutella]

why are you so confident on dunya town tho

[DrWilgy]

w/e

I'm a chicken shit and have a action redirect.
Didn't have enough Glory day 1, purchased glory for n2 and targeted Soneji as a freebie, then Mac followed by Dunya. I was not notified to if my redirect did anything.

Here's the thing though if the redirect happened, I do not think Mac red checked Dunya, if the redirect didn't, he didn't red check me. Again, he chose the easiest player to red check and just threw it. Now we have another 24 hours without discussion and I'm just going to die.

How does your redirect work exactly

What do you mean? Effects are taken off me and put on who I target. Banishment resolves last.

[nutella]

hmmmn I think DrWilgy w spills a lot of people town

Is it possible that motobot bussed a partner four days in a row?

I think it is

wouldn't like, bet on it, but wouldn't bet against it either

[DrWilgy]

why are you so confident on dunya town tho

My first interaction with her comes from a town position. There is not another read I am more confident of.

[Carotenoid]

why are you so confident on dunya town tho

My first interaction with her comes from a town position. There is not another read I am more confident of.

hmn this is also really familiar lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I uh

Have a similar role so I don’t think it’s, like, impossible wilgy is telling the truth

Ngl it actually seems vaguely possible that there are a lot of near-duplicate town roles in this game, would that fit with flavor?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeh I actually think wilgy is probably telling the truth regardless of his alignment

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Or at least close to the truth

[outed wolf]

i think the most damning thing is that he had enough glory for an action n1

:P

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah I would’ve thought so too but APPARENTLY SOME PEOPLE ARE FUCKING GLORY HOGS THAT DONT LEAVE ANY FOR THE REST OF US

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

[MacDougall]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

[outed wolf]

i also have a vaguely similar role to him fwiw

[Carotenoid]

I mean, the claim is probably decently real, but that doesn't make him a townie

[MacDougall]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

Well we can't both be real. So you're going to have to rationalise why I would choose Wilgy to fake a check on.

[DrWilgy]

I mean, the claim is probably decently real, but that doesn't make him a townie

You would push that

[outed wolf]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

Well we can't both be real. So you're going to have to rationalise why I would choose Wilgy to fake a check on.

i mean the simplest answer is because you can get away with it?

[MacDougall]

Hypothetical

Moth has claimed to be a rolecop

Mafia know some town roles

Wilgy panic claimed a role that sounds like the roles they know

Gg yeet mafia

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

Well we can't both be real. So you're going to have to rationalise why I would choose Wilgy to fake a check on.

Naw you could both be real, he’s claiming to have redirected to dunya

So there’s a world you’re both town and real and dunya is mafia

[DrWilgy]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

Ending the game.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Maybe role’s come in threes and one is scum

That seems unbelievably easy tho

[MacDougall]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

Well we can't both be real. So you're going to have to rationalise why I would choose Wilgy to fake a check on.

i mean the simplest answer is because you can get away with it?

Come on lol

[MacDougall]

Idk I have to think about this but it’s not hard for me to see a world where this claim is real tbh

Well we can't both be real. So you're going to have to rationalise why I would choose Wilgy to fake a check on.

Naw you could both be real, he’s claiming to have redirected to dunya

So there’s a world you’re both town and real and dunya is mafia

Oh, I must have misunderstood what he was yapping about

That would be pretty funny

[MacDougall]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

Ending the game.

Why is your first reaction to this that I am lying, and not that Dunya is mafia?

[DrWilgy]

Maybe role’s come in threes and one is scum

That seems unbelievably easy tho

If this was the case, what roles have we had dupes of already?

[DrWilgy]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

Ending the game.

Why is your first reaction to this that I am lying, and not that Dunya is mafia?

Because that makes more sense.

[nutella]

Maybe role’s come in threes and one is scum

That seems unbelievably easy tho

If this was the case, what roles have we had dupes of already?

doctors and alignment cops, neither of which would make sense as mafia roles lol

[nutella]

Hypothetical

Moth has claimed to be a rolecop

Mafia know some town roles

Wilgy panic claimed a role that sounds like the roles they know

Gg yeet mafia

this could make sense yeah

[nutella]

or dunya is mafia lol

[MacDougall]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

Ending the game.

Why is your first reaction to this that I am lying, and not that Dunya is mafia?

Because that makes more sense.

No it doesn't

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Maybe role’s come in threes and one is scum

That seems unbelievably easy tho

If this was the case, what roles have we had dupes of already?

Well me and ow are claiming similar roles to your claim

We’ve had two doc-ish town flips already

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

And we have two cop claims yeah

[MacDougall]

im going back to bed, don't be ridiculous

[DrWilgy]

I don't think we're in a place where wolf-Mac can throw away his life on a fake red-check, and frankly Wilgy isn't even in the towncore, so why would he choose Wilgy? [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine Sorry doctor, but also could I please have your Hope into my Glory when you die?

This is shady as fuck dude. You spent the game townreading me and don't even consider the opposite option of Mac lying.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Mac faking a red as mafia here would be pretty wild imo. Maybe he does it but like...honestly if he did I would expect it to be on someone that was rolecopped to have a more useful role than what wilgy is claiming

[DrWilgy]

Maybe role’s come in threes and one is scum

That seems unbelievably easy tho

If this was the case, what roles have we had dupes of already?

Well me and ow are claiming similar roles to your claim

We’ve had two doc-ish town flips already

What are the details of yours and [mention]outed wolf[/mention]'s re-directors?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I can redirect negative actions to a player of my choice

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk if it’s actually optimal to claim here but I’m in fuck it mode

[nutella]

Mac faking a red as mafia here would be pretty wild imo. Maybe he does it but like...honestly if he did I would expect it to be on someone that was rolecopped to have a more useful role than what wilgy is claiming

I am definitely leaning toward believing Mac and if Wilgy flips green we yeet dunya into the sun instead.

I already had reason to suspect dunya tho

[DrWilgy]

Your's seems marginally better than mine.

[DrWilgy]

Welcome to Pyre Mafia 2020
Watch Wilgy try to prevent the wolves from misyeeting him for 15 straight days.

[moth]

im very sick and im going to rest. ive not tried to do anything with my actions since n1. I didnt understand how to get more power. none of it made sense. I tried to use my ability on kza n1 since he was on a vanity and got told I lacked enough power to do it.

I was not clear on how to get power or if I had to elim ppl but I just decided to not give a shit and play as if I was vt.

[Long Con]

I don't think we're in a place where wolf-Mac can throw away his life on a fake red-check, and frankly Wilgy isn't even in the towncore, so why would he choose Wilgy? [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine Sorry doctor, but also could I please have your Hope into my Glory when you die?

This is shady as fuck dude. You spent the game townreading me and don't even consider the opposite option of Mac lying.

I literally considered it in the post you quoted.

[Long Con]

What is the motivation for me to be faking a red check on Wilgy?

Ending the game.

I don't see how we are at that point yet, aren't there too many players left alive?