Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[moth]

this is not how I play. its been a really crazy 12 days so I understand why I seem like a worthless town or scum. Im not offended. My reasoning for distrusting the lissa zack crew is how unproductive town has been. It seems like they catch scum for a living and have missed their quota to be actual town

[DrWilgy]

Didn't consider it enough

[Long Con]

Didn't consider it enough

I was the 6th or 7th vote on you... how come you're singling me out for this sin?

[Long Con]

this is not how I play. its been a really crazy 12 days so I understand why I seem like a worthless town or scum. Im not offended. My reasoning for distrusting the lissa zack crew is how unproductive town has been. It seems like they catch scum for a living and have missed their quota to be actual town

What did you do last night?

[moth]

Im not saying they have to play perfectly but if theyre so strongly townreading each other id expect better results. more red flips. the nks seem to be targeting middling town who are ultra skilled but havent turned on the jets yet

[DrWilgy]

Heartbreak.

[moth]

this is not how I play. its been a really crazy 12 days so I understand why I seem like a worthless town or scum. Im not offended. My reasoning for distrusting the lissa zack crew is how unproductive town has been. It seems like they catch scum for a living and have missed their quota to be actual town

What did you do last night?

fell asleep at about 10pm and took a ton of decongestant

[Long Con]

So you're saying you didn't use your claimed ability?

[Long Con]

this is not how I play. its been a really crazy 12 days so I understand why I seem like a worthless town or scum. Im not offended. My reasoning for distrusting the lissa zack crew is how unproductive town has been. It seems like they catch scum for a living and have missed their quota to be actual town

What did you do last night?

fell asleep at about 10pm and took a ton of decongestant

Tough honeymoon?

[Carotenoid]

I think a world where MacDougall and DrWilgy are w/w could be possible, but it's not super likely

Also aside from the whole claiming thing DrWilgy has really suspicious interactions with Marcher Jovian
cf Sloonei's interactions analysis post, mine, short follow-up

[moth]

Im okay with caro, nutella, nanook, cayvie

Sussing dunya, wilgy, zack, lissa, outed

[moth]

So you're saying you didn't use your claimed ability?

Im still at 0.8. Ive done nothing with my power because no ones explained how im supposed to get it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Mac faking a red as mafia here would be pretty wild imo. Maybe he does it but like...honestly if he did I would expect it to be on someone that was rolecopped to have a more useful role than what wilgy is claiming

I am definitely leaning toward believing Mac and if Wilgy flips green we yeet dunya into the sun instead.

I already had reason to suspect dunya tho

I mean uh

Idk how I feel about it tbh, cause like...if wilgy was rolecopped...it’s *possible* they fake a red on him and hope he redirects to a town so you get a 2 for 1...but, uh, that’s kinda risky imo, given that redirects are notoriously difficult to predict. So like...idk. Maybe scumMac does actually fake a red on wilgy without him being rolecopped, but I also think wilgy is a bit of a weird fake red check given he probably can die without it, I’d expect a fake red to go on someone like LC or me or dunya tbh

[moth]

this is not how I play. its been a really crazy 12 days so I understand why I seem like a worthless town or scum. Im not offended. My reasoning for distrusting the lissa zack crew is how unproductive town has been. It seems like they catch scum for a living and have missed their quota to be actual town

What did you do last night?

fell asleep at about 10pm and took a ton of decongestant

Tough honeymoon?

it was nice but I caught a gross sinus cold. which I doubt is covid but its possible it is.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Your's seems marginally better than mine.

Doesn’t matter if I can’t get the glory for it!

[moth]

everyone keeps talking about a marketplace I dont understand where that is or what that is.

[moth]

can you stop asking me about my honeymoon and talk about why my reads are wrong?

also dont use the word marcher when defending zack or lissa

go:

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You could try reading the first 3-4 host posts

[moth]

I dont know when marcher flipped and didnt realize until 2 days ago that we had actually flipped a scum

[Carotenoid]

everyone keeps talking about a marketplace I dont understand where that is or what that is.

PM Epignosis to know your stats/sols and tell him what you wanna buy
Marketplace is here

[Long Con]

can you stop asking me about my honeymoon and talk about why my reads are wrong?

also dont use the word marcher when defending zack or lissa

go:

I don't know if your reads are wrong. Go look at the first post and learn how to play this game before you start making demands; if you're town then your apathy is more harmful than most. You could have won us the game by now if your claim is true. Which is obviously doubtful.

[moth]

this site isnt very good for finding summary and I lean on that alot for games where im out of the loop. My backbone as town is mostly just attacking the towncore and seeing what wiggles. I can tell you that town hasnt been productive this game and 1 flip is not a sign of productivity. If anyone could explain what the deciding factor was in the marcher flip id entertain whatever is told to me

[Lissa]

fwiw i did have enough glory to act n1

and didn't wilgy say he didn't until n2 anyway

i don't really think i care that much about that though

[Long Con]

this site isnt very good for finding summary and I lean on that alot for games where im out of the loop. My backbone as town is mostly just attacking the towncore and seeing what wiggles. I can tell you that town hasnt been productive this game and 1 flip is not a sign of productivity. If anyone could explain what the deciding factor was in the marcher flip id entertain whatever is told to me

You're like that guy in the group project who never shows up for working on it, and goes to class on presentation day and expects the others to tell him what to do.

[Lissa]

can you stop asking me about my honeymoon and talk about why my reads are wrong?

also dont use the word marcher when defending zack or lissa

go:

I dont know when marcher flipped and didnt realize until 2 days ago that we had actually flipped a scum

i mean, your case is pretty much that we haven't been effective enough when we spent two days trying to yeet the only dead wolf in the game

so uh, lol?

[moth]

how would a role cop where I dont even learn the result be useful to anyone? It very well could be me just giving mafia a free rolecop on a town role that needs to stay hidden. also if there an anti claim it could be devastating to town

[outed wolf]

I can redirect negative actions to a player of my choice

i can redirect a player

n2 macdougall to himself
n3 motobot to tsp
n4 lissa to nanook

[outed wolf]

dont talk to me about the lissa action, idk why i did that

just scared of d e e p w o l f

[moth]

can you stop asking me about my honeymoon and talk about why my reads are wrong?

also dont use the word marcher when defending zack or lissa

go:

I dont know when marcher flipped and didnt realize until 2 days ago that we had actually flipped a scum

i mean, your case is pretty much that we haven't been effective enough when we spent two days trying to yeet the only dead wolf in the game

so uh, lol?

im suprised you havent been killed or caught more scum

[outed wolf]

i have given -0 thought about my actions which is probably a huge mistake

sorry bros

[moth]

day 1 DR wilgy missed a phase and were people putting him in poe for that?

[moth]

rule #1 of mafia is know who is better than you
rule #2 is learn when someone better than you shouldnt still be alive

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m a little hurt you’d redirect an action you thought might be negative to me!

Fwiw I probably would’ve redirected Mac to someone last night to narrow options if he’s scum but that’s just me

[Lissa]

I can redirect negative actions to a player of my choice

i can redirect a player

n2 macdougall to himself
n3 motobot to tsp
n4 lissa to nanook

this is... funny

i'll tell you why later

but jesus christ that's a lot of redirection claims

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m gonna step back from this for a bit I think, ping me if you need me

Think I need some space/time to figure out what I believe claims-wise

[outed wolf]

I’m a little hurt you’d redirect an action you thought might be negative to me!

Fwiw I probably would’ve redirected Mac to someone last night to narrow options if he’s scum but that’s just me

i did consider it

i thought about a lot of actions lol

idk

[moth]

outed are you a redirector or a bus driver

[Lissa]

can you stop asking me about my honeymoon and talk about why my reads are wrong?

also dont use the word marcher when defending zack or lissa

go:

I dont know when marcher flipped and didnt realize until 2 days ago that we had actually flipped a scum

i mean, your case is pretty much that we haven't been effective enough when we spent two days trying to yeet the only dead wolf in the game

so uh, lol?

im suprised you havent been killed or caught more scum

i mean the person we wanted dead did not actually die d1 or d2

and really the primary person i wanted dead didn't die yday either

[outed wolf]

outed are you a redirector or a bus driver

redirector

i take player a and make them target player b

[moth]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

[moth]

outed are you a redirector or a bus driver

redirector

i take player a and make them target player b

does a bus driver do that also?

[outed wolf]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

i tried to get macdougall killed early game
i tried to get motobot killed all game
lissa shrug

[outed wolf]

outed are you a redirector or a bus driver

redirector

i take player a and make them target player b

does a bus driver do that also?

a bus driver makes all actions that target player a target player b (and all that target player b target player a)

[Lissa]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

cmon man, can you try actually reading posts

the things you're saying are just flat wrong

[moth]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

i tried to get macdougall killed early game
i tried to get motobot killed all game
lissa shrug

apologies but this question was for lissa not you

[moth]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

cmon man, can you try actually reading posts

the things you're saying are just flat wrong

I asked if you feel you are trying hard to get your scunreads eliminated

[Long Con]

Both lissa and outed wolf are new to the site... few of us have any of the expectations you think should be out there, moth.

[Lissa]

i spent a large chunk of the game trying to get marcher yeeted

i switched off carote because i changed my read

i tried pretty hard to get longcon yeeted yesterday but was ultimately also fine yeeting tony, but clearly preferred longcon and pushed it

[moth]

youve felt very chill this game and non aggressive. You came at me for stuff early but then just backed off on it which made no sense. as soon as I stopped talking about outed both you and zack left me alone

[Lissa]

Are you trying hard to get those people eliminated?

cmon man, can you try actually reading posts

the things you're saying are just flat wrong

I asked if you feel you are trying hard to get your scunreads eliminated

i know what you asked

you'd have an answer if you were actually looking for it or cared to try to find it at all