Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

Afaik my power only adds .1 to each so you must have gotten some another way

[Long Con]

And oh yeah - if you want to yeet me, don't forget that I have 2 votes removed from me for my Quickness.

[bronana]

I had a similar buff from anointing, but nutella's barely affected my stats at all.

I'm not following how your glory went from 2.3 to 0.9 after your inventory was smashed? Shoudln't it be 1.8?

[bronana]

oh sloonei was in your triumvirate, nvm

[Long Con]

Afaik my power only adds .1 to each so you must have gotten some another way

I may have gotten someone's Hope put into my Glory, actually. I remember asking very nicely with a mention tag on someone's early death. I was never informed that it had happened, and I didn't even know at the time that your power boosted stats. When I asked Epi about my increased stats on Day 3, he said that he knows why, but he's not telling.

Is everyone asking for stat updates here and there? If not, you might be surprised. I was.

[Long Con]

oh sloonei was in your triumvirate, nvm

Yes, and Epi was gracious enough to make my Glory 0.9 instead of 0.65, by smashing the talismans before taking the Sloonei hit.

[nutella]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[Long Con]

Someone must have given me their Hope then. That's really nice, and I owe them one.

[MacDougall]

This sure is a vote spread

[Lissa]

huh. that is... not the same boost as I got from nutella

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

You're voting for a cop who yeeted a mafia

[Carotenoid]

you know what, turnip head and master radishes had a similar role, but they were a bit different

aren't mac and carot claiming exactly the same role? and neither has been killed after two nights?

I think it would be strange af if they're both town.

Carot said 90% same IIRC

@Carotenoid now’s probably the time to clear that up lol

I figured that my results don't make the difference between wolf and 3P

[bronana]

i think i've seen the idea that marcher is being set up as a misyeet by the wolves (if not maybe I'm misremembering since I just read hundreds of posts of you all going in circles )

i dont feel like wolves have voted or pushed for a marcher banish ... at all? This applies to wilgy too, the d2 wagon* seems pretty clean and no one is pushing him at all today, even though he's now been a counter wagon to two misyeets.

Spoiler: show

*for reference

DrWilgy
6
27%


Voters: tedxtr, Lissa, dunya, motobot, nutella, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

where do people think the wolves are voting today?


Marcher Jovian
4
17%
Voters: Lissa, KZA, bronana, nutella


Lissa
3
13%
Voters: dunya, Marcher Jovian, MacDougall


outed wolf
4
17%
Voters: Long Con, DrWilgy, cayvie, Sloonei


those are the main wagons at the point in time that i'm making this post

Personally the lissa and outed wolf wagons look the sketchiest to me. And I don't even think outed wolf is particularly villagy.

Wolves nightkilled one of the strongest voices pushing marcher and wilgy. Wolves don't seem particularly interesting in yeeting marcher or wilgy. They're also just wolfy, independent of any wagon or kill anyalsis. I think you guys are making this more complicated than it needs to be. Kill the wolfy people that the wolves don't want us to kill.

hmm, forgot about this since it's hard to track anything but the EOD votecounts here

We know Marcher was a wolf, OW was a villager, one confirmed wolf each voting for Lissa and outed wolf.

If Lissa is a wolf I'm not seeing it.

Looks good for nutella too

[Long Con]

huh. that is... not the same boost as I got from nutella

IT's looking like I got someone's Hope in the mix there, and Epi just adds it without informing the player.

[nutella]

Someone must have given me their Hope then. That's really nice, and I owe them one.

hmmmmm

did any of the dead townies express particular trust of LC before their death

or is he playing dumb about a scum mate

[Lissa]

ye, i just got the +0.1 to each so

[Long Con]

Looks good for nutella too

With the stat boost from nutella's power, it becomes harder to believe she's scum... how could she resist giving her scum buddies boosts?

Who did nutella target each day? How many of them have we flipped?

[Long Con]

Someone must have given me their Hope then. That's really nice, and I owe them one.

hmmmmm

did any of the dead townies express particular trust of LC before their death

or is he playing dumb about a scum mate

I would have adjusted my story to match your expectations if I *knew* anything. I only saw results, when I asked for stat updates, and had to make my own conclusions.

[Lissa]

Looks good for nutella too

With the stat boost from nutella's power, it becomes harder to believe she's scum... how could she resist giving her scum buddies boosts?

Who did nutella target each day? How many of them have we flipped?

bronana
long con
lissa
carotenoid
nanook

i believe is the list

[nutella]

N1/D2: bronana
N2/D3: LC
N3/D4: Lissa
N4/D5: Carot
N5/D6: Nanook

None have flipped lol

[Long Con]

^ in response to the "scum mate" thing

[Long Con]

N1/D2: bronana
N2/D3: LC
N3/D4: Lissa
N4/D5: Carot
N5/D6: Nanook

None have flipped lol

Can you repeat-target?

[bronana]

Afaik my power only adds .1 to each so you must have gotten some another way

i only got +0.1 to one of my stats fwiw

[nutella]

Someone must have given me their Hope then. That's really nice, and I owe them one.

hmmmmm

did any of the dead townies express particular trust of LC before their death

or is he playing dumb about a scum mate

I would have adjusted my story to match your expectations if I *knew* anything. I only saw results, when I asked for stat updates, and had to make my own conclusions.

k

[nutella]

N1/D2: bronana
N2/D3: LC
N3/D4: Lissa
N4/D5: Carot
N5/D6: Nanook

None have flipped lol

Can you repeat-target?

Not twice in a row but I assume non-consecutively yes

[Lissa]

huh i got +0.1 to all of them

[nutella]

huh yeah it's definitely worded as 0.1 to all

[Long Con]

I think it's official that nutella onlygives +0.1 to each stat, which means that one of the dead folk between Days 1 and 3 gave me +0.5 to Glory and +0.2 to Hope.

[bronana]

I don't think long con ever addressed this

I'm gonna vote for Turnip Head right now. Just a gut feel. [VOTE: My old friend] aubergine

It's gonna be funny because my role was extremely similiar to Radishes'. So I probably won't be townread even after I flip town

are you claiming....3p?

Nope I'm town but my role is 90% same as Master Radishes' role so it's gonna be a headscratcher

But Radishes was a doctor. What's so headscratchy about that?

Pushing inactivity Wilgy right after yeeting inactivity Ra

Pushing inactivity Wilgy right after yeeting inactivity Radishes is not the greatest.

Is there a non-doctor in the house?

I have no reason to oppose a wilgy vote, but I just want to comment that the lack of traction on outed wolf is confusing. If we have a consensus suspect, it’s him, and yet there seems to be a collective resistance to talking about him over the last hour.

I'd vote for him. This TH vote is feeling a little stale and wrong at this point.

Staying at this point, I don't want the Wilgy lynch.

Of course, my vote is worth less than one, so this very close lynch could go either way.

how is this a villager lol

it's especially weird after he voted wilgy d1

[Long Con]

I'm going to assume it was Radishes. Thanks man!!

@Master Radishes Sorry to see you go dude. I believed in you. I'm hoping that would make me a contender for some of your lost Hope.

[Long Con]

I don't think long con ever addressed this

I'm gonna vote for Turnip Head right now. Just a gut feel. [VOTE: My old friend] aubergine

It's gonna be funny because my role was extremely similiar to Radishes'. So I probably won't be townread even after I flip town

are you claiming....3p?

Nope I'm town but my role is 90% same as Master Radishes' role so it's gonna be a headscratcher

But Radishes was a doctor. What's so headscratchy about that?

Pushing inactivity Wilgy right after yeeting inactivity Ra

Pushing inactivity Wilgy right after yeeting inactivity Radishes is not the greatest.

Is there a non-doctor in the house?

I have no reason to oppose a wilgy vote, but I just want to comment that the lack of traction on outed wolf is confusing. If we have a consensus suspect, it’s him, and yet there seems to be a collective resistance to talking about him over the last hour.

I'd vote for him. This TH vote is feeling a little stale and wrong at this point.

Staying at this point, I don't want the Wilgy lynch.

Of course, my vote is worth less than one, so this very close lynch could go either way.

how is this a villager lol

it's especially weird after he voted wilgy d1

Not too much to address. I had bad judgment when I trusted Wilgy. I have no excuse for it.

[bronana]

why'd you switch on wilgy?

[Long Con]

Why would you quote the accidentally-posted half-post? Does that just add to the visual presence of the case or something?

[Long Con]

why'd you switch on wilgy?

I don't remember. I just thought he sounded townish, and I made the decision to stick with it.

If you yeet me for that alone, then I'll say "fair play".

[bronana]

it amused me to do so

[Long Con]

Fair play.

[nutella]

idk i think LC seems legit here lol

im thinking we're in mac/dunya w/w world

[Long Con]

Some scum members may have been solely feeding their Presence stat, which could end up really hurting come LYLO. Good to remember.

[Carotenoid]

the cayvie thing still makes no sense to me at all

(tinfoil theory is that I was blocked and tracked by scumteam but eh)

I think the most plausible explanation is that wolves bought back DrWilgy ability and that cayvie was protected. Their power seem wolfy, especially when we know that Marcher Jovian could know how much stuff we bought

[nutella]

i guess it makes sense to go [VOTE: dunya] aubergine first tho

[nutella]

the cayvie thing still makes no sense to me at all

(tinfoil theory is that I was blocked and tracked by scumteam but eh)

I think the most plausible explanation is that wolves bought back DrWilgy ability and that cayvie was protected. Their power seem wolfy, especially when we know that Marcher Jovian could know how much stuff we bought

I think it's p likely that they got wilgy's ability back yeah

Which makes cayvie a wolf ig, I wasn't sure what to think of her 3p claim tbh

Or w!dunya blocked you (and w!mac lied)
Or something

[bronana]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[Lissa]

i'm. pretty hesitant about the theory that both 1. cayvie was untargetable last night and 2. that makes her a wolf

idk. feel like with multiple doctors etc. and possibly multiple cops flying around there should actually be more wolf blocking/tampering than that?

maybe makes more sense if mac is just a wolf and carote was normally blocked idk, but cop = obvious block target

or honestly a neutral could have some targeting fuckery built in pretty easily i feel like that would make a lot of sense actually?

[bronana]

I'm not really sure why nutella thinks dunya is a wolf

[Carotenoid]

or honestly a neutral could have some targeting fuckery built in pretty easily i feel like that would make a lot of sense actually?

yeah but wouldn't it be specified in their role description? cayvie said not knowing why they were untargettable

[nutella]

I'm not really sure why nutella thinks dunya is a wolf

think she makes sense with mac in this scenario

but if we're comfortable going for mac first im totally down

[bronana]

look, mac was targeted by wilgy n3 (pre-claim) with an ability i imagine is almost always going towards wolves

claims cop with a correct red check, still alive for some reason

feel like in most games that would be enough to get him yeeted into the sun? especially when, if you ignore the claim, his posts this game are extremely wolfy and marcher's interactions/mentions of him look w/w

[Lissa]

or honestly a neutral could have some targeting fuckery built in pretty easily i feel like that would make a lot of sense actually?

yeah but wouldn't it be specified in their role description? cayvie said not knowing why they were untargettable

i mean

she could just be like... lying

she's not a villager

[bronana]

I'm not really sure why nutella thinks dunya is a wolf

think she makes sense with mac in this scenario

but if we're comfortable going for mac first im totally down

but why is she with mac? you think she's been hard bussing him for several days?

[Lissa]

look, mac was targeted by wilgy n3 (pre-claim) with an ability i imagine is almost always going towards wolves

claims cop with a correct red check, still alive for some reason

feel like in most games that would be enough to get him yeeted into the sun? especially when, if you ignore the claim, his posts this game are extremely wolfy and marcher's interactions/mentions of him look w/w

i still have no idea why he spent however fucking long just blindly tunneling me either