The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]

[1612]

1612, what do you mean "Long Con's" logs don't say much.

How did you read his logs?

Did you read his ISO from the first post in this thread, or did you manually go back and read the entire thread, or what?

How did you reach reading Long Con's posts?

Oh I am sorry totally forgot about that, I saw the "need internet in cottage" but didn't realize that Nanook was the replacing him officially. I thought he was still in the game but he just hasn't been talking lol

[1612]

Yeah I do ISO's for player by player read basis and saw that his count of threads was really low and had nothing substantial, I was weirded out by the internet log but didn't realize he was officially replace, im dumb

[tutuu]

Think we are in setup C, so godfather, doublevoter, cop with N0 peek.



Mafia would have known which setup it was anyway if they had a GF and once double voter claims. Its also why mechanically Scirrius was the best kill, since it kills a confirm and there is no chance for a save.

If we DO have a doctor who didnt save scirrius, then just... we have different playstyles I guess.

I have a good idea who is going to claim cop here. I am waiting.

What do you think about this post 1612?

[1612]

Think we are in setup C, so godfather, doublevoter, cop with N0 peek.



Mafia would have known which setup it was anyway if they had a GF and once double voter claims. Its also why mechanically Scirrius was the best kill, since it kills a confirm and there is no chance for a save.

If we DO have a doctor who didnt save scirrius, then just... we have different playstyles I guess.

I have a good idea who is going to claim cop here. I am waiting.

What do you think about this post 1612?

That post from proto was fine, I was happy someone cleared up quickly about which setup we were in since I don't really play semi-close (semi-open?)
But I was NOT happy about this quote, "I have a good idea who is going to claim cop here. I am waiting.", like I know what he was getting at since I guess we both were under the assumption Urist was softing a pr, but to me it just seemed like it was a way to get town cred by saying "look at me, I know who cop is but I didn't kill him". Like it seemed very unnecessary to say in my opinion where you risk them outing on D2 when they might not have good info to give especially when he was beginning to lose traction.
It doesn't matter anyways because he flipped town and you are cop instead of Urist so I was looking at a wrong world there.

[1612]

I'll be back at 5:00 PM after work hold on!

[Michelle]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

[Lavender]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

i have my reasons for this pov, and i've paid my dues since the cop claim. talk to me when u've posted the reads tutuu requested

[Michelle]

gut reading 1612 not villagery for the looong explanation about the cop claims and the double explanation about Long Con.

Derping is sweet when is spontaneous. Idk if i am right but is what i felt reading that.

Add the lack of reaction at my ping and at the fact i voted him.

[mention]tutuu[/mention] i will keep my word but now i have to sleep. Anyway in my Poe rn i have Lavander and 1612, and i think Alison may go either way.

If i would try to FPS a red check as fake cop i would go for Lavander.

Funny thing, my MU sig contains a quote "Wolves never w peek someone".

[Urist]

can we all agree to banish tutuu tomorrow if she isn't nk'd tonight?

[Michelle]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

i have my reasons for this pov, and i've paid my dues since the cop claim. talk to me when u've posted the reads tutuu requested

explain the coloured pls

of course you did your homework, how could you miss the oportunity to look useful?

[Michelle]

can we all agree to banish tutuu tomorrow if she isn't nk'd tonight?

no

[Lavender]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

i have my reasons for this pov, and i've paid my dues since the cop claim. talk to me when u've posted the reads tutuu requested

explain the coloured pls

of course you did your homework, how could you miss the oportunity to look useful?

i don't feel the need to look useful rn

[Michelle]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

i have my reasons for this pov, and i've paid my dues since the cop claim. talk to me when u've posted the reads tutuu requested

explain the coloured pls

of course you did your homework, how could you miss the oportunity to look useful?

i don't feel the need to look useful rn

i see, the explanation doesn't exist.

[Lavender]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

also, the statement "if alison is town michelle is mafia" is only false if you and alison are v/v. why is that the world we live in? [mention]Michelle[/mention]

[Lavender]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

also, the statement "if alison is town michelle is mafia" is only false if you and alison are v/v. why is that the world we live in? @Michelle

in particular, why do u tr alison?

[Alison]

Hi guys. Not really feeling it today, I've slept maybe 20 hours out of the last 24, been up erratically just to eat and still feel kinda tired. My fault for having a bad sleep schedule maybe (I knew staying up for that EOD was a mistake). I'm caught up though, and I'm going to try my best to deliver reads and play the game properly.

Disappointed that proto was the kill for D2, since I think there were much better kills obviously and in the normal course of things I don't think he'd have eaten an exe. [mention]tutuu[/mention] aren't you glad I told you to trust me that proto was town?

I believe the tutuu cop claim obviously. Stock in MP7 goes up for trying hard to divert the proto exe when she could have sat back and let everyone murder him. That was before I came in saying proto was town too.

Doing a barebones reads list for tutuu.

1612 - town. I read his catchup posts, my gut says town.
Alison - town
cobbler - townlean. Really dislike how they've dropped off the radar since they got townread early on, but I read their posts and... it still bleeds town to me. I will be impressed if they are mafia.
Dyslexicon - town. I put my faith in the EOD meltdown and conflicted feelings being real. If it's theater, you fooled me.
jeraldooo - has not impressed me since the early power move coming in and scumreading all the trusted people. Probably scum trying to slank if I'm honest with myself.
Lavender - I have strong feelings about the "if Alison is town Michelle is mafia" post since I think Michelle is town. Reeks of trying to set up a double misexe. I'm scumleaning Lav.
Michelle - town. Liked the EOD and the pivot off me. Could still be scum on paper but her posts D2/N2 have just been good. I don't see a reason to question my read on this.
M Plus 7 - yup, this is town
tutuuu - town
Urist - mixed bag. Had some posts I really liked, had some posts I really didn't like. I hope tutuu either has a N0 check on Urist, or a red check on him so I can sort him for sure. I'm willing to leave him alive a bit more because I do think if he's town he'll do some work later on.

[Michelle]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

also, the statement "if alison is town michelle is mafia" is only false if you and alison are v/v. why is that the world we live in? @Michelle

This is typical mafia logic. I said i am villager, i didn't say anytiig about Alison

[Alison]

I really don't have the energy to do this but if someone else does please go and check whether the proto/nanook wagons have strong overlap. They are both confirmed to be town now so just see if anyone was like a little too "okay, this seems good" on either/both of them.

Saying this made me realize that it increases Urist's scum equity because the kerfluffle at EOD is unlikely to be 100% town cannibalizing each other, there had to be mafia influence somewhere and if Alison/nanook/proto/Urist really was V/V/V/V I feel they'd be happier just sitting back and eating popcorn. So I guess move Urist up to scummy for me based off that.

[tutuu]

@tutuu aren't you glad I told you to trust me that proto was town?

Absolutely. I'm glad I trusted you over myself. Maybe Mafia is a team game after all.

[Michelle]

Alison, i think we can smoke the peace pipe, looks like scum wants to have fun speculating and i reffuse to let myself manipulated.
The implied TMi on you villager in Lavander's posts is obvious

[Alison]

can we all agree to banish tutuu tomorrow if she isn't nk'd tonight?

This is an awful post tbh

It makes no sense for deepwolf!tutuu to just randomly claim cop like that when she wasn't even under pressure. A fake cop claim will be sniffed out sooner or later, either by a counterclaim or when the real cop dies. If scum for some reason felt a desire to randomly cop claim, tutuu is not the person they'd choose to do it.

If everyone agreed with your statement then scum could just NK someone other than tutuu and let us waste the day exeing her. It feels like fishing for town to make a bad mistake.

[tutuu]

Don't push yourself too much Alison btw. IRL health > Mafia.

[Alison]

Alison, i think we can smoke the peace pipe, looks like scum wants to have fun speculating and i reffuse to let myself manipulated.
The implied TMi on you villager in Lavander's posts is obvious

Yeah, I think you are town and Lavender is scum. I'm cool with you.

[Tangrowth]

What the actual fuck

[Alison]

Don't push yourself too much Alison btw. IRL health > Mafia.

I'm always afraid of being suspected for taking a short break because I tend to put in a lot of effort as both alignments. I have strong meta of never lying about RL reasons regardless of alignment though. If I feel the need to slank as scum for some reason, I'll just ghost the thread instead of making up a fake sickness.

[Tangrowth]

Don't push yourself too much Alison btw. IRL health > Mafia.

Yes, this thing tutuu said is good. It's why I haven't been here. I am now though.

[Alison]

What the actual fuck

yup. that happened. It sucks, but we can't undo the past. You should catch up, give your reads, and play the best you can to try to save this game.

[Tangrowth]

Don't push yourself too much Alison btw. IRL health > Mafia.

I'm always afraid of being suspected for taking a short break because I tend to put in a lot of effort as both alignments. I have strong meta of never lying about RL reasons regardless of alignment though. If I feel the need to slank as scum for some reason, I'll just ghost the thread instead of making up a fake sickness.

I can relate to this hard, but seriously, you need to do you.

[Tangrowth]

What the actual fuck

yup. that happened. It sucks, but we can't undo the past. You should catch up, give your reads, and play the best you can to try to save this game.

Oh I'm down for that.

Does it need saving? We still can win this for sure.

[Tangrowth]

I'm going to hop into ISOs for everyone even if super quickly before I update my reads list... I want to view things with a fresh perspective.

[Michelle]

Don't push yourself too much Alison btw. IRL health > Mafia.

i will take this advice and go to sleep

Alison, i think we can smoke the peace pipe, looks like scum wants to have fun speculating and i reffuse to let myself manipulated.
The implied TMi on you villager in Lavander's posts is obvious

Yeah, I think you are town and Lavender is scum. I'm cool with you.

agree, i think only a villager can reevaluate like this

[Tangrowth]

Mp7 is 100% mafia
Alison 95%

they are both 100% town LOL

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Okay, at least it's pretty funny that this was proto's final post, right?

[Alison]

What the actual fuck

yup. that happened. It sucks, but we can't undo the past. You should catch up, give your reads, and play the best you can to try to save this game.

Oh I'm down for that.

Does it need saving? We still can win this for sure.

The rand hitting town over someone who is very possibly mafia D1, and then PR dying and then someone who I thought was obvious town being killed D2 is a pretty anemic start. I don't believe in giving up though and I've won games with much worse starts than this. It just means we need to work hard to win.

[tutuu]

yea thats why i laughed so much

[Tangrowth]

What the actual fuck

yup. that happened. It sucks, but we can't undo the past. You should catch up, give your reads, and play the best you can to try to save this game.

Oh I'm down for that.

Does it need saving? We still can win this for sure.

The rand hitting town over someone who is very possibly mafia D1, and then PR dying and then someone who I thought was obvious town being killed D2 is a pretty anemic start. I don't believe in giving up though and I've won games with much worse starts than this. It just means we need to work hard to win.

Effort is my middle name.

[Tangrowth]

yea thats why i laughed so much

Seriously, please let me know whenever you play other games.

[tutuu]

ily2

[1612]

i had a busy day all day and is 10 pm and i can finally play. Catching up, saw the Eod and the flip

okay back to serious business

ahem

if alison is town michelle is mafia

i am not mafia no matter what. This sentence is suspicious because you are speculating over a world you have no infos creating a false narrative.

I would insta vote you in day time for this.

i have my reasons for this pov, and i've paid my dues since the cop claim. talk to me when u've posted the reads tutuu requested

explain the coloured pls

of course you did your homework, how could you miss the oportunity to look useful?

i don't feel the need to look useful rn

i see, the explanation doesn't exist.

This is how Lavendar always plays by the way. Well I haven't seen this type of goofiness since he is taking full advantage of forum emojis and colors but if my irl read is correct, it's the town goofiness that I've played with many times. It's still game solvy and very fun to play with. Sorry if you don't feel the same right now... Mafia.gg players aren't looking great right now. 1. Modkilled, 2. DM'd to not Coast but still coasting, 3. Being Goofy©, 4. Not knowing who was replaced and when the game started.

Oof.

[Alison]

tutuu is one of my favorite people to play with on this site. dunya, Hally and MP7 are too. Which isn't to say that I don't like anyone else, just that I click especially well with these people.

[Tangrowth]

Oh thank goodness this Night is extended, that's a relief. I do have some timing limitations today and tomorrow, but otherwise I'll be here solving the fuck out of this thing.

[Tangrowth]

tutuu is one of my favorite people to play with on this site. dunya, Hally and MP7 are too. Which isn't to say that I don't like anyone else, just that I click especially well with these people.

I'm really enjoying this player list for sure!

[Alison]

1612 please don't talk about OGI stuff even more than you already have. It's a violation of game integrity.

[1612]

[mention]Michelle[/mention] Please tell me you at least read my paragraph and didn't jsut default scum read it for its format? I understand if you don't have time since real life but yeah... spent a lot of time on that!

[1612]

1612 please don't talk about OGI stuff even more than you already have. It's a violation of game integrity.

Huh, my opinion was that reading people scum is all about IRL reads. I don't think this is necessarily too much OGI or maybe I am wrong? It jsut seemed like a lot of people thought he was scummy for an obvious fake cop claim so I am giving some people context and not let people automatically scumread Lavendar. Or is explaining that OGI, too? If that is so, I will not talk about it anymore. I just thought you guys were saying how Nanoook is easier to read for you guys so I was trying to do the same.

[tutuu]

alright. im tired of keeping this info to myself. im just gonna out it so we can solve together.

my checks are:
n0 alison town (she cant be godfather)
n1 1612 mafia

i think i have a solid idea on who is at least one of 1612's partners. would appreciate some help finding the other one.

[Alison]

Here's an open question to everyone.

Do you think that EOD1 plays out the way it did if all five people who were under consideration for the exe - proto, myself, Urist, nanook, and Scirrus to some degree - were all villager?

If you don't, then you should believe that at least one of me and Urist are scum, since Scirrus, nanook and proto have all flipped town.

I don't, and it's why I think Urist is scum.

[Tangrowth]

1612 please don't talk about OGI stuff even more than you already have. It's a violation of game integrity.

Huh, my opinion was that reading people scum is all about IRL reads. I don't think this is necessarily too much OGI or maybe I am wrong? It jsut seemed like a lot of people thought he was scummy for an obvious fake cop claim so I am giving some people context and not let people automatically scumread Lavendar. Or is explaining that OGI, too? If that is so, I will not talk about it anymore. I just thought you guys were saying how Nanoook is easier to read for you guys so I was trying to do the same.

Hey 1612, it's appreciated! But technically in forum mafia, anything that happens outside of the confines of the actual game thread would be considered OGI. Hope that makes sense!

[Tangrowth]

alright. im tired of keeping this info to myself. im just gonna out it so we can solve together.

my checks are:
n0 alison town (she cant be godfather)
n1 1612 mafia

i think i have a solid idea on who is at least one of 1612's partners. would appreciate some help finding the other one.

Oh fuck yeah, I'm going to do some interactive analyses, thank you so much. I'm so glad you said this before I started doing ISO work.

[Alison]

alright. im tired of keeping this info to myself. im just gonna out it so we can solve together.

my checks are:
n0 alison town (she cant be godfather)
n1 1612 mafia

i think i have a solid idea on who is at least one of 1612's partners. would appreciate some help finding the other one.

ayyyyyy

[Alison]

1612/Urist/Lavender?

I'm feeling it.