X-Men [ENDGAME]

[NurseWilgy]

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

[Chuck]

That makes a lot of sense Domino. Secrets. Mystique. *putting two and two together*

[NurseWilgy]

That makes a lot of sense Domino. Secrets. Mystique. *putting two and two together*

Well I know when I played another mafia game with Mystique, her secret was she could look like another played if lynched. It makes a lot of sense, because I know SC had such a solid case on him and I have no doubt in my mind he's bad. Of course, I know some, not all, of his teammates are going to try to revert my idea and draw the attention to me. But I'm 100% sure because of things and SC's case he has to be lying.

[Celeste]

Honestly, this was the one other scenario I was worried about. Although it makes me think it's very likely he was Mystique. It might explain why he put up the type of defense he did.

I do think looking at the people who jumped onto my case without adding any of their own thoughts is worth examining. And I think Shaw and Sunfire are also worth looking at.

I'm curious as to who else thinks this was Mystique or if I genuinely made a mistake. Thoughts?

[Celeste]

Also, if Exodus does happen to flip civ, I think I totally deserve to get lynched next. I've been thinking it over today and I really do feel terrible about the fact that I hinted/stated that I had info. If I could go back and do it over again, I probably would have left that part out or said it was a "gut feeling" or something similar. So Exodus, if you happen to read this, know that I'm truly sorry with how it happened. Unfortunately, all we can do at this point is move on.

Shadowcat, does one of you have to be bad or is there a chance you are both civs?

One of us had to have been bad. And I know I'm a civ so it wasn't me. The problem with the current situation is that the outcome is one of two things: 1) Exodus was Mystique and we caught our first baddie, or 2) Dazzler was part of The Brotherhood, and Sabertooth's NK got randomly redirected onto one of his own teammates.

Those are the only two possibilities for what has happened.

[Celeste]

Linki: Shadowcat, I made a post explaining what seemed nefarious to me about Shaw.

Yeah, I ended up finding it. Thanks.

[Celeste]

Also (sorry for all the posts in a row again btw!), I would be willing to consider giving this to Avalanche, since he was so gung-ho about wanting to fight Morlocks earlier. But part of me also wonders if the person who "wins" will be negatively affected by it. I'd like to hear some thoughts on people who know a bit more about the X-Men universe before I make a decision here.

[Chuck]

Also (sorry for all the posts in a row again btw!), I would be willing to consider giving this to Avalanche, since he was so gung-ho about wanting to fight Morlocks earlier. But part of me also wonders if the person who "wins" will be negatively affected by it. I'd like to hear some thoughts on people who know a bit more about the X-Men universe before I make a decision here.

We'll have to wait and see what Avalanche says.

[Rachel Green]

Also, if Exodus does happen to flip civ, I think I totally deserve to get lynched next. I've been thinking it over today and I really do feel terrible about the fact that I hinted/stated that I had info. If I could go back and do it over again, I probably would have left that part out or said it was a "gut feeling" or something similar. So Exodus, if you happen to read this, know that I'm truly sorry with how it happened. Unfortunately, all we can do at this point is move on.

Shadowcat, does one of you have to be bad or is there a chance you are both civs?

One of us had to have been bad. And I know I'm a civ so it wasn't me. The problem with the current situation is that the outcome is one of two things: 1) Exodus was Mystique and we caught our first baddie, or 2) Dazzler was part of The Brotherhood, and Sabertooth's NK got randomly redirected onto one of his own teammates.

Those are the only two possibilities for what has happened.

Ok thanks Shadowcat. I posted earlier that I thought there was a chance either Grey or Jubilee redirected Sabres target or the Sentinels because I thought it was odd that Dazzler was targeted twice. That may very well be what happened only it was Sabre's who got redirected onto baddie Dazzler as you describe. I don't know about Mystique being the answer because i don't think just because there was a Mystique with that power in another game it would be the same power in this game, at least I think that's what Domino was saying. But I don't know - I don't know anything about Mystique because it's secrets so it could possibly be that. I appreciate you being so upfront that one of you all had to be bad and taking the risk that we don't think it's you.

[dodo]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

[Chuck]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

[dodo]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

[Chuck]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

[Operator]

Also (sorry for all the posts in a row again btw!), I would be willing to consider giving this to Avalanche, since he was so gung-ho about wanting to fight Morlocks earlier. But part of me also wonders if the person who "wins" will be negatively affected by it. I'd like to hear some thoughts on people who know a bit more about the X-Men universe before I make a decision here.

I don't know much about the X-Men comicverse, but I do remember Epi's previous games and his stance on killing players as a host. I think it's unlikely Avalanche will die, and that even if he does "die" he would come back from it eventually.

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

Hahahaha! Voting Avalanche for this poll.

[Ned Flanders]

I thought he wanted to defeat the Morlocks, not be their leader?

[dodo]

I thought he wanted to defeat the Morlocks, not be their leader?

Tomato tomahto

[NurseWilgy]

I would like to win a poll, but i dont think i would receive enough vote. But i volunteer lol

[dodo]

I would like to win a poll, but i dont think i would receive enough vote. But i volunteer lol

You weren't around to witness my passion for Morlock fighting, so I forgive you, but you should still really vote for me.

[2 Stupid Dogs]

Sorry for missing the vote! :/ Very busy day.


Voting Avalanche.

[Paul Stevens]

I think just about everyone thought of you when they saw the poll

Voting Avalanche as far as I can see!

[Paul Stevens]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Huh-WHAT? What is THAT response supposed to mean?

[Ned Flanders]

Again, i thought he wanted to fight Morlocks, not be their leader?

[Ned Flanders]

Does no one want to discuss this?

[Grand Scheme]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

You got it! Good luck!

Again, i thought he wanted to fight Morlocks, not be their leader?

He answered you the first time

I thought he wanted to defeat the Morlocks, not be their leader?

Tomato tomahto

Why don't you want to vote for him?

[Grand Scheme]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Huh-WHAT? What is THAT response supposed to mean?

I want to hear what he has to say also - looks like a slip, reads like a slip

[2 Stupid Dogs]

Does no one want to discuss this?

WEll, someone who I am now leaning civvie on volunteered.

[NurseWilgy]

I would like to win a poll, but i dont think i would receive enough vote. But i volunteer lol

You weren't around to witness my passion for Morlock fighting, so I forgive you, but you should still really vote for me.

Lol alright, I will give you this vote but you can vote me next time. Enjoy the Morloks leadership

[Nicol Bolas]

rip exodus...... this game is damn strange

and lol i gotta vote for mah boi avalanche here i kno he wants it! go and live ur destiny avalanche u were born 4 this moment!!!

[Snapshot]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Av, you got my vote homie, take 'er down and take over!

Interesting lynch result…

[Jack Shephard]

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

I'm just trying to entertain the possibilities here, and you were very quick to dismiss the fact that we just lynched a 'civ'.

[2 Stupid Dogs]

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

So, you knew other people were going to say so?

[NurseWilgy]

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

I'm just trying to entertain the possibilities here, and you were very quick to dismiss the fact that we just lynched a 'civ'.

It's based on things I know, and things I think SC was very valid about that I made that statement. She hasn't said anything yet, so I'm thinking there is a possibility she got silenced so we will all turn our eyes to vote her out next. I think the real Gambit is still playing, please don't reveal yourself because that would be dumb, and really believe we got a Baddie this time. I know again, it is a "possibility" and not a proved fact atm but I really do believe Exodus was Mystique. I know the attention is going off Sunfire again, but we need to start looking back in his direction to get another Baddie lynched tomorrow team. It was very wise of him to agree with me so quickly about Mystique to make sure he stays out of the spotlight again after all. I wouldn't expect all Exodus's teammates to have the same approach so some of them could not agree with me and make the attention get back on me or someone else instead of Sunfire again.

[Chuck]

Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Huh-WHAT? What is THAT response supposed to mean?

I previously told Avalanche I would prove my civviness to him. I'm just being playful...no slip. If I were bad I woiuld not be THAT stupid. :P

[2 Stupid Dogs]

Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

[NurseWilgy]

Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

If I had BTSC with Baddies, you would have seen it too But, who's to say. Prof X didn't tell me? No info dumping unfortunately so when I say things I know, that's it.

[Celeste]

In that case, Avalanche, go for it! You get my vote too. Go kick some Morlock butt!

I previously told Avalanche I would prove my civviness to him. I'm just being playful...no slip. If I were bad I woiuld not be THAT stupid. :P

I'm not sure if I believe you.

[Celeste]

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

Does this mean that you think I have BTSC? Or that I'm bad?

[Celeste]

Also, if Exodus does happen to flip civ, I think I totally deserve to get lynched next. I've been thinking it over today and I really do feel terrible about the fact that I hinted/stated that I had info. If I could go back and do it over again, I probably would have left that part out or said it was a "gut feeling" or something similar. So Exodus, if you happen to read this, know that I'm truly sorry with how it happened. Unfortunately, all we can do at this point is move on.

Shadowcat, does one of you have to be bad or is there a chance you are both civs?

One of us had to have been bad. And I know I'm a civ so it wasn't me. The problem with the current situation is that the outcome is one of two things: 1) Exodus was Mystique and we caught our first baddie, or 2) Dazzler was part of The Brotherhood, and Sabertooth's NK got randomly redirected onto one of his own teammates.

Those are the only two possibilities for what has happened.

Ok thanks Shadowcat. I posted earlier that I thought there was a chance either Grey or Jubilee redirected Sabres target or the Sentinels because I thought it was odd that Dazzler was targeted twice. That may very well be what happened only it was Sabre's who got redirected onto baddie Dazzler as you describe. I don't know about Mystique being the answer because i don't think just because there was a Mystique with that power in another game it would be the same power in this game, at least I think that's what Domino was saying. But I don't know - I don't know anything about Mystique because it's secrets so it could possibly be that. I appreciate you being so upfront that one of you all had to be bad and taking the risk that we don't think it's you.

Even though I don't know quite as much about the X-Men universe as some others, I'm betting on Mystique being a shapeshifter having to factor into her role secrets.

[Rachel Green]

Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

If I had BTSC with Baddies, you would have seen it too But, who's to say. Prof X didn't tell me? No info dumping unfortunately so when I say things I know, that's it.

What do you mean 'who's to say Prof X didn't tell me'? Prof X doesnt talk to individual players. And when you say you can't infodump but you know something to be true you are info dumping. If it didn't come from the thread you shouldn't be talking about it.

[NurseWilgy]

Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

If I had BTSC with Baddies, you would have seen it too But, who's to say. Prof X didn't tell me? No info dumping unfortunately so when I say things I know, that's it.

What do you mean 'who's to say Prof X didn't tell me'? Prof X doesnt talk to individual players. And when you say you can't infodump but you know something to be true you are info dumping. If it didn't come from the thread you shouldn't be talking about it.

I was being caddy when I said that. And that's why I'm not talking about how I know.

[Rachel Green]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

[NurseWilgy]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

[Grand Scheme]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Can we please stop info dumping?? Seriously.

Spin it however you wish it is still info dumping and its bs!!

I don't have to trust shit you say, I do, however, trust thread proof or validation.

[Snapshot]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Jesus Christ, guys. Infodumping sucks, srs.

[dodo]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Jesus Christ, guys. Infodumping sucks, srs.

Agreed. Don't dump info, just vote for me to fight Morlocks. And then lynch Sunfire.

[Rachel Green]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Jesus Christ, guys. Infodumping sucks, srs.

My point exactly.

[Gunther]

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Jesus Christ, guys. Infodumping sucks, srs.

I don't think it's infodumping. I think it's "fake" info dumping.

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

I'm just trying to entertain the possibilities here, and you were very quick to dismiss the fact that we just lynched a 'civ'.

It's based on things I know, and things I think SC was very valid about that I made that statement. She hasn't said anything yet, so I'm thinking there is a possibility she got silenced so we will all turn our eyes to vote her out next. I think the real Gambit is still playing, please don't reveal yourself because that would be dumb, and really believe we got a Baddie this time. I know again, it is a "possibility" and not a proved fact atm but I really do believe Exodus was Mystique. I know the attention is going off Sunfire again, but we need to start looking back in his direction to get another Baddie lynched tomorrow team. It was very wise of him to agree with me so quickly about Mystique to make sure he stays out of the spotlight again after all. I wouldn't expect all Exodus's teammates to have the same approach so some of them could not agree with me and make the attention get back on me or someone else instead of Sunfire again.

This doesn't make sense for Exodus to be Mystique. The reason? Math. It's really irking me that people aren't acknowledging more the fact that the baddies have potentially 7 members. We aren't use to seeing baddie teams with that many players. Think of the things a team that large is capable of.

So, look at the math. 10 players voted for Exodus yesterday. The rest of the votes were spread out. Next, let's just assume for a moment that Exodus really was Mystique. Are we also assuming that all 10 players that voted for Exodus are civvies? With either 5 or 6 team mates still alive (SW being a possible teamie), the lynch vote tally just doesn't make sense. So, are we thinking that Mystique's team mates just sat back and let her be lynched and just spread out their votes?

If Mystique was on the block to be lynched (And that she is a seemer when lynched), wouldn't that make it more likely that the baddies would be willing to stick their necks out and save her by voting for someone else to be lynched? With 6 and possibly 7 votes at their disposal and Mystique on the block to get lynched, it just doesn't make sense the way the lynch went down. How would it be risky to get Mystique's back when she would be revealed as a civvie?

I think that everyone needs to sit back and try to see the game through the brotherhood's perspective. I think we are being hoodwinked here and that a lot of the people steering the discussion in this game are brotherhood members.

Pre-lynch, Domino was pinging me, but now with this "Hey, guys, I promise promise promise that Exodus was Mystique wink wink nudge nudge." I do not buy it at all. I think that is a fake info dump all the way.

[Jack Shephard]

This doesn't make sense for Exodus to be Mystique. The reason? Math. It's really irking me that people aren't acknowledging more the fact that the baddies have potentially 7 members. We aren't use to seeing baddie teams with that many players. Think of the things a team that large is capable of.

So, look at the math. 10 players voted for Exodus yesterday. The rest of the votes were spread out. Next, let's just assume for a moment that Exodus really was Mystique. Are we also assuming that all 10 players that voted for Exodus are civvies? With either 5 or 6 team mates still alive (SW being a possible teamie), the lynch vote tally just doesn't make sense. So, are we thinking that Mystique's team mates just sat back and let her be lynched and just spread out their votes?

If Mystique was on the block to be lynched (And that she is a seemer when lynched), wouldn't that make it more likely that the baddies would be willing to stick their necks out and save her by voting for someone else to be lynched? With 6 and possibly 7 votes at their disposal and Mystique on the block to get lynched, it just doesn't make sense the way the lynch went down. How would it be risky to get Mystique's back when she would be revealed as a civvie?

I think that everyone needs to sit back and try to see the game through the brotherhood's perspective. I think we are being hoodwinked here and that a lot of the people steering the discussion in this game are brotherhood members.

Pre-lynch, Domino was pinging me, but now with this "Hey, guys, I promise promise promise that Exodus was Mystique wink wink nudge nudge." I do not buy it at all. I think that is a fake info dump all the way.

When someone infodumps like that and we have a unanimous lynch, that would be a prime time for baddies to throw their teammate under the bus, wouldn't you agree? But yes, that only works if Exodus was a baddie.

I agree with you Havok. It would be a relief if we have killed a baddie (or two) at this point. But we have zero proof yet. Aside from that, we might even have all the indy roles left.

Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

And then there was this post. I'm not opposed to looking at Sunfire (per Prof X' request), but I believe Domino deserves more attention. She and Shadowcat seem to be promoting the same idea while maintaining some distance between each other.

[NurseWilgy]

I just don't see why you think I would have anything to gain mentioning Exodus was Mystique besides helping the Other Civs? If I were bad, I wouldn't draw attention to myself when I haven't really been in the spotlight very much. I know I shouldn't info dump, and I'm sorry. But I do know who he was even if I did come in half way through the game so far. I'm stating what happened in the other game is VERY likely to be able to happen in this same game for Mystique's secret. Look at the character in X Men, she is a shapeshifter. Wouldn't it make sense if lynched, she would pose as any player of her choice to help teammates? SC's case was way too strong for her to be wrong if you needed thread evidence that's public knowledge. If SC were Lynched and also flipped Civ, that could prove Exodus was bad. But I WILL NOT lynch her knowing she is my ally and another Civ. We are not risking loosing more players. If you guys haven't been noticing, the odds of votes are soon going to be in their favor if we don't get our shit together and make sure these next few lynches are all in sync and correct.

[Operator]

I just don't see why you think I would have anything to gain mentioning Exodus was Mystique besides helping the Other Civs? If I were bad, I wouldn't draw attention to myself when I haven't really been in the spotlight very much. I know I shouldn't info dump, and I'm sorry. But I do know who he was even if I did come in half way through the game so far. I'm stating what happened in the other game is VERY likely to be able to happen in this same game for Mystique's secret. Look at the character in X Men, she is a shapeshifter. Wouldn't it make sense if lynched, she would pose as any player of her choice to help teammates? SC's case was way too strong for her to be wrong if you needed thread evidence that's public knowledge. If SC were Lynched and also flipped Civ, that could prove Exodus was bad. But I WILL NOT lynch her knowing she is my ally and another Civ. We are not risking loosing more players. If you guys haven't been noticing, the odds of votes are soon going to be in their favor if we don't get our shit together and make sure these next few lynches are all in sync and correct.

Tbh, the thread-based part of her case really wasn't very strong at all. It was just every Exodus quote with "Hey, this looks bad." written afterward.

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

I'm just trying to entertain the possibilities here, and you were very quick to dismiss the fact that we just lynched a 'civ'.

It's based on things I know, and things I think SC was very valid about that I made that statement. She hasn't said anything yet, so I'm thinking there is a possibility she got silenced so we will all turn our eyes to vote her out next. I think the real Gambit is still playing, please don't reveal yourself because that would be dumb, and really believe we got a Baddie this time. I know again, it is a "possibility" and not a proved fact atm but I really do believe Exodus was Mystique. I know the attention is going off Sunfire again, but we need to start looking back in his direction to get another Baddie lynched tomorrow team. It was very wise of him to agree with me so quickly about Mystique to make sure he stays out of the spotlight again after all. I wouldn't expect all Exodus's teammates to have the same approach so some of them could not agree with me and make the attention get back on me or someone else instead of Sunfire again.

Do you have any thread evidence to say Sunfire is bad, besides Professor X's opinion?

Also, I think we should wait to discuss who we're going to lynch until tomorrow, since Magneto is likely still around.