Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Amy]

holy fuck we're actually stomping this game lmao

i'm so good at this game when i don't try

[Hally]

now i see why radishes was so desperate to get me killed D1

its because all three of my wolf reads D1 were correct lol

i’d be desperate to kill me too

[tutuu]

ty for appreciating my humor nutella ily girl

[iaafr]

I'm also omgus tinfoiling nutella with the omegatinfoil of radishes being town vig

[Amy]

this is the last post i'm wasting for now

i intend to show up in a little bid and hard PoE this game, figure out where we're gonna start when looking for the last scum

bob flipping makes me think iaafr nanook hally are just hard clear unless we're turbobussing the shit out of this game, which makes me more confident that radishes is just scum

also someone remind me what we think happened to the scum kill last night

anyways good fucking shit gang

10/60

[Long Con]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

Narrator: He was far from right.

Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

Except I'm not technically a post count modifier. I can build you a soapbox to modify your post count with a small chance it will break every day you use it...or I can build you a (pretty sketchy) bullet proof vest...or I can build you a very sketchy one shot security system to catch a photo of someone if they happen to be killing you in the night that has a very low chance of actually working.

I'm contemplating building a nuclear weapon but suspect TSP will not allow it to work.

[Benson]

Benson is probably mafia for this silly attack on Amy. We should execute him or Colin first.

Right. It's not even an attack. She's probably town, she just doesn't definitely have a town role that I think we should clear. I've been pushing back against premature clears all game and will continue to do so.

It certainly feels like you're only coming after me hard now because you have to now that the PoE is getting so small. Definitely major agenda vibes since you posted your claim. And why would you even claim that unprompted when there's still power there? Or did I miss something there?

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WWH's town equity is crashing. They seem really uncomfortable in this situation suddenly.


Tbh I was hoping to be get killed before I had to deal with all the claims.

[iaafr]

unironic Poe: {Alison proto LC Colin}

not sure if I even want that order

[Hally]

I'm also omgus tinfoiling nutella with the omegatinfoil of radishes being town vig

hard pass

this is the last post i'm wasting for now

i intend to show up in a little bid and hard PoE this game, figure out where we're gonna start when looking for the last scum

bob flipping makes me think iaafr nanook hally are just hard clear unless we're turbobussing the shit out of this game, which makes me more confident that radishes is just scum

also someone remind me what we think happened to the scum kill last night

anyways good fucking shit gang

10/60

scum kill got eaten by lc’s bulletproof

radishes was maf. radishes did the kill. i redirected radishes to lc. lc got hit but had a vest, which he was informed got broken

[Benson]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

Narrator: He was far from right.

Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

Except I'm not technically a post count modifier. I can build you a soapbox to modify your post count with a small chance it will break every day you use it...or I can build you a (pretty sketchy) bullet proof vest...or I can build you a very sketchy one shot security system to catch a photo of someone if they happen to be killing you in the night that has a very low chance of actually working.

I'm contemplating building a nuclear weapon but suspect TSP will not allow it to work.

Being a tracker does not prove someone has town!!

Alison and Colin can be easily have the powers they say despite there probably being a wolf within them.

That said, I did like the causal way Colin claimed when he absolutely did not need to help us believe hally's claim.

[Long Con]

Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

nah i think this is probably wrong. i don’t think wolves want iaafr to have more posts. it’s a pro town action imo

also town powers are so stacked that i legit don’t think any mafia has a role that’s as dinky as just... giving someone more posts

28/60

that could just be an addon to the power, or just one of the powers

like, the maf might have more than one powers

remember when KZA died it says "alexander the great died" like wtf was that. his stand??

DUDE its so funny i never thought about it KZA with the purple haze avi dying caused his stand Alexander the Great to die with him lmao

god this is really fucking funny and yes im wasting a post to say i appreciate a jojo reference


32/60

Stand?

[WerewolfHunter]

unironic Poe: {Alison proto LC Colin}

not sure if I even want that order

18

Would I be in the list or not because I'm not town cleared?

[iaafr]

unironic Poe: {Alison proto LC Colin}

not sure if I even want that order

18

Would I be in the list or not because I'm not town cleared?

your presence comforts me but realistically you might have to be in Poe

same with Benson

[Timsup2nothin]

btw i just realized tim and nutella were telling me earlier that some philosopher might be from the school of sparta so we should be careful with my role

DUDE what SCHOOL of SPARTA

philosophers. SPARTA

yall havent seen the movie????? i did my research uh-uh. yall better do yo homework next time b4 u come @ me yo

It was the only other city in Greece that came to me top of head. Ummm...is there a Corinthian School, or do they just make leather?

[tutuu]

there so much investigative town power i dont understand. i dont believe both alison and colin can be town.

i am unlimited shot parity/normal cop

alison claims unlimited shot cycling doctor/tracker

colin claims unlimited shot tracker

like, if ur ability is 1-shot or X-shot, and u didnt specify for wifom, could u actually please claim the full thing, cuz it might help solve? idk

i am unlimited shot, im not lying about that

also for some reason i wanna tinfoil benson as the mega mega mega deep wolf

[mention]Benson[/mention] can u claim ur role btw pls?

[WerewolfHunter]

unironic Poe: {Alison proto LC Colin}

not sure if I even want that order

18

Would I be in the list or not because I'm not town cleared?

your presence comforts me but realistically you might have to be in Poe

same with Benson

19

Which makes sense to me from your perspective. I do think Benson is town cleared

[Hally]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

this is another reason we aren’t killing colin today

he will track someone tonight (preferably a clear with an active action like me). he will tell us who he tracked and where they went

the person who he tracked will verify they targeted who colin says

if colin gets it wrong he’s outed

tracker claims are not fake usually for this reason

we can do the same thing with alison because she claims even night tracker. if both are telling the truth and can verify it we have two more clears. if not they’re outed. ez game

correct play is to yeet elsewhere today i think

34/60

[Long Con]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

Narrator: He was far from right.

Guys, it's probably that the town has one post-count modifier and the wolves have the other. Two villager roles like that just again, seem to easy for us.

Except I'm not technically a post count modifier. I can build you a soapbox to modify your post count with a small chance it will break every day you use it...or I can build you a (pretty sketchy) bullet proof vest...or I can build you a very sketchy one shot security system to catch a photo of someone if they happen to be killing you in the night that has a very low chance of actually working.

I'm contemplating building a nuclear weapon but suspect TSP will not allow it to work.

Being a tracker does not prove someone has town!!

Alison and Colin can be easily have the powers they say despite there probably being a wolf within them.

That said, I did like the causal way Colin claimed when he absolutely did not need to help us believe hally's claim.

Scum tracker kind of sucks though. That's the role they get, while the villagers get a treasure trove? Or, are the roles just average-to-good for the town, and we just crushed it with synergistic use?

I really believe that town Colin would track me last night. It fits with this game, and it fits with overall meta. I've done some pretty sneaky shit this year, and some players are on high alert about me. Don't know if Colin is one of them. Our Host defintely is, but that's neither here nor there.

[iaafr]

scum could easily have a tracker or tracker/doctor tho

[tutuu]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

this is another reason we aren’t killing colin today

he will track someone tonight (preferably a clear with an active action like me). he will tell us who he tracked and where they went

the person who he tracked will verify they targeted who colin says

if colin gets it wrong he’s outed

tracker claims are not fake usually for this reason

we can do the same thing with alison because she claims even night tracker. if both are telling the truth and can verify it we have two more clears. if not they’re outed. ez game

correct play is to yeet elsewhere today i think

34/60

holy shit hally ur actually a GENIUS

i legit didnt even think of that

omg why are u so smart?

[ColinIsCool]

I’m unlimited shots.

[Long Con]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

this is another reason we aren’t killing colin today

he will track someone tonight (preferably a clear with an active action like me). he will tell us who he tracked and where they went

the person who he tracked will verify they targeted who colin says

if colin gets it wrong he’s outed

tracker claims are not fake usually for this reason

we can do the same thing with alison because she claims even night tracker. if both are telling the truth and can verify it we have two more clears. if not they’re outed. ez game

correct play is to yeet elsewhere today i think

34/60

Unless scum tracker, but like I said, that's too sucky maybe?

How is Benson cleared, besides having an agreeable ISO and a friendly av?

[WerewolfHunter]

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You know what I feel like claiming despite mine being unverifiable.

I can take away someone's vote each day.

I used it on Radish not expecting him to get shot but really happy about the outcome. I plan on using it on non town cleared individuals going forward

[iaafr]

unironic Poe: {Alison proto LC Colin}

not sure if I even want that order

18

Would I be in the list or not because I'm not town cleared?

your presence comforts me but realistically you might have to be in Poe

same with Benson

19

Which makes sense to me from your perspective. I do think Benson is town cleared

what's your immediate Poe as of right now?

[Long Con]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

this is another reason we aren’t killing colin today

he will track someone tonight (preferably a clear with an active action like me). he will tell us who he tracked and where they went

the person who he tracked will verify they targeted who colin says

if colin gets it wrong he’s outed

tracker claims are not fake usually for this reason

we can do the same thing with alison because she claims even night tracker. if both are telling the truth and can verify it we have two more clears. if not they’re outed. ez game

correct play is to yeet elsewhere today i think

34/60

holy shit hally ur actually a GENIUS

i legit didnt even think of that

omg why are u so smart?

I know, I wish I'd thought of it.

[tutuu]

omfg im so sorry long con

i just love hally but in this circumstance i should have praised u

[mention]Long Con[/mention] ur so fucking smart. ur the GOAT tbh. pat pat

[WerewolfHunter]

Colin's claim is really believable. Maybe we can set him up to prove his claim on Night 2? Instead of just lynching him? Worst that can happen is Mafia kills him to not let him prove it, right?

this is another reason we aren’t killing colin today

he will track someone tonight (preferably a clear with an active action like me). he will tell us who he tracked and where they went

the person who he tracked will verify they targeted who colin says

if colin gets it wrong he’s outed

tracker claims are not fake usually for this reason

we can do the same thing with alison because she claims even night tracker. if both are telling the truth and can verify it we have two more clears. if not they’re outed. ez game

correct play is to yeet elsewhere today i think

34/60

holy shit hally ur actually a GENIUS

i legit didnt even think of that

omg why are u so smart?

I know, I wish I'd thought of it.

21

The thing is if we let both of them prove themselves where do we yeet? I'm fine with it being me if it comes to that but would much rather continue playing

[ColinIsCool]

I’m good with that plan. If scum somehow fuck with it then they’re using their power to get me lynched, which, lol

[Hally]

scum could easily have a tracker or tracker/doctor tho

eh it’s possible. if all scum gets is a tracker when town has a cop, a redirector, a tracker, a day vig, a night vig, etc i question the balance but it’s possible

i’m assuming scum is quite OP though given what we have and i think tracker is a weak scum role

35/60

[tutuu]

pls listen pls pls pls pls pls its a fuckin banger

[Long Con]

omfg im so sorry long con

i just love hally but in this circumstance i should have praised u

@Long Con ur so fucking smart. ur the GOAT tbh. pat pat

[WerewolfHunter]

22

Im down with the plan as well. If I am not misyeeted today, thete is a chance if they chose to do so to confirm where I went. However I think it's better to use one of the town clears

[Hally]

20

You know what I feel like claiming despite mine being unverifiable.

I can take away someone's vote each day.

I used it on Radish not expecting him to get shot but really happy about the outcome. I plan on using it on non town cleared individuals going forward

i can buy this but yea it’s not really necessarily a town role

still kinda think you’re town anyway but you’ll likely be poe’d

36/60

[Alison]

I'm fine with tracking someone to prove myself.

Benson, why do you repeatedly accuse me of trying to widen by POE by including you when you've done absolutely nothing to clear yourself?

[Benson]

My grammar went to absolute shit on that last post. I need to step away after this post.

I'm just giving up on any tinfoil about radish being town or Hally lying etc. The game is too hard that way and I'm just tired. I'm sorry [mention]Hally[/mention] for the nauseating accusations all game. That's how I play; I struggle to let go of tunnels. I still feel like shit about my game despite probably being correct on MR from the start (who I'm admittedly not great at reading historically).

there so much investigative town power i dont understand. i dont believe both alison and colin can be town.

i am unlimited shot parity/normal cop

alison claims unlimited shot cycling doctor/tracker

colin claims unlimited shot tracker

like, if ur ability is 1-shot or X-shot, and u didnt specify for wifom, could u actually please claim the full thing, cuz it might help solve? idk

i am unlimited shot, im not lying about that

also for some reason i wanna tinfoil benson as the mega mega mega deep wolf

@Benson can u claim ur role btw pls?

I am an X-shot doctor. So far I claimed to have 1 shot. If that's a lie, then assume it's still something low. You have to let me wifom here lol.

Scum tracker kind of sucks though. That's the role they get, while the villagers get a treasure trove? Or, are the roles just average-to-good for the town, and we just crushed it with synergistic use?

I really believe that town Colin would track me last night. It fits with this game, and it fits with overall meta. I've done some pretty sneaky shit this year, and some players are on high alert about me. Don't know if Colin is one of them. Our Host defintely is, but that's neither here nor there.

I assumed that every wolf had some role. Wolf trackers aren't that uncommon as a secondary role to the better ones. Especially not in role madness where you want to give the wolves things that they can also claim believably. Maybe you could help me with how you guys usually do your scum roles in madness games.


Alison, what are you talking about? If MR is also scum that means I called both him and Kaz out and pressed them since the start. GO LOOK. Some player were basing their MR read off mine. That's not the kind of shit I do as a wolf. It's fair if you want to say Kaz doesn't count but I'm never wolfing with MR this game.


Final thing: Do we just force the PoE's to claim immediately? Or is that still suboptimal? I want to say yes but there are probably still aspects to this that the mafia can wield to hurt us.

[Long Con]

Maybe a soup kill.

[WerewolfHunter]

My grammar went to absolute shit on that last post. I need to step away after this post.

I'm just giving up on any tinfoil about radish being town or Hally lying etc. The game is too hard that way and I'm just tired. I'm sorry @Hally for the nauseating accusations all game. That's how I play; I struggle to let go of tunnels. I still feel like shit about my game despite probably being correct on MR from the start (who I'm admittedly not great at reading historically).

23

I think it's best to lock the evils into claims here so I'm down with making all of them claim

there so much investigative town power i dont understand. i dont believe both alison and colin can be town.

i am unlimited shot parity/normal cop

alison claims unlimited shot cycling doctor/tracker

colin claims unlimited shot tracker

like, if ur ability is 1-shot or X-shot, and u didnt specify for wifom, could u actually please claim the full thing, cuz it might help solve? idk

i am unlimited shot, im not lying about that

also for some reason i wanna tinfoil benson as the mega mega mega deep wolf

@Benson can u claim ur role btw pls?

I am an X-shot doctor. So far I claimed to have 1 shot. If that's a lie, then assume it's still something low. You have to let me wifom here lol.

Scum tracker kind of sucks though. That's the role they get, while the villagers get a treasure trove? Or, are the roles just average-to-good for the town, and we just crushed it with synergistic use?

I really believe that town Colin would track me last night. It fits with this game, and it fits with overall meta. I've done some pretty sneaky shit this year, and some players are on high alert about me. Don't know if Colin is one of them. Our Host defintely is, but that's neither here nor there.

I assumed that every wolf had some role. Wolf trackers aren't that uncommon as a secondary role to the better ones. Especially not in role madness where you want to give the wolves things that they can also claim believably. Maybe you could help me with how you guys usually do your scum roles in madness games.


Alison, what are you talking about? If MR is also scum that means I called both him and Kaz out and pressed them since the start. GO LOOK. Some player were basing their MR read off mine. That's not the kind of shit I do as a wolf. It's fair if you want to say Kaz doesn't count but I'm never wolfing with MR this game.


Final thing: Do we just force the PoE's to claim immediately? Or is that still suboptimal? I want to say yes but there are probably still aspects to this that the mafia can wield to hurt us.

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

[Hally]

[mention]iaafr[/mention] why is lc in your poe? he’s lock clear because my action went through and if both he and radishes were maf it would have failed

i think proto kind needs to go back in the poe. wwh probably will need to be resolved at some point

if one of colin and alison is maf i unironically think it’s alison because scum having a doc actually makes sense with the amount of kp town has

only thing is if she is a scum doc i think she always saves radishes because he was basically outed? in which case nuts shot wouldn’t have gotten through

it’s possible she made up the claim entirely though

it’s kinda weird imo for town to have a one shot doc, a one shot bulletproof and also an odd night doc

37/60

[WerewolfHunter]

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Oops my thing didn't go through but I said it would be good to force the evils to claim especially those in Poe

[Benson]

Returning for WWH lol

20

You know what I feel like claiming despite mine being unverifiable.

I can take away someone's vote each day.

I used it on Radish not expecting him to get shot but really happy about the outcome. I plan on using it on non town cleared individuals going forward

I think this is just almost always a wolf role. Like come on.

[Long Con]

Soup kills are very rare on this site though, I have heard of them but I don't think I've ever seen one.

As for how the scum team abilities usually given, I feel like I see a great variety of things, difficult to nail down some sort of standard.

[WerewolfHunter]

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

25

I honestly want to try and solve this gane. I also have no idea why I feel so energetic and eager to play this game right now lol.

I'm down with going dizzy here

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

[iaafr]

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

part of the reason im suspecting alison is from my extremely limited understanding of her personality, she seems to be the sort of tryhard to keep trying in this gamestate; her perspective has felt pretty off since sod2 today too

could be just tunneling though

also hally: yea i forgot about that aspect of the lc mech

[WerewolfHunter]

Returning for WWH lol

20

You know what I feel like claiming despite mine being unverifiable.

I can take away someone's vote each day.

I used it on Radish not expecting him to get shot but really happy about the outcome. I plan on using it on non town cleared individuals going forward

I think this is just almost always a wolf role. Like come on.

26

First I claimed willing. Second I said early mine was almost unverifiable. Third, wouldn't evils claim their cover roles? I know you could say this is my cover role.

Lastly the way I'm trying to use it to take away evils votes so I'm going with someone not lock clear.

I'm even up for us to consensus decide if we choose to go that route

[Hally]

[mention]Benson[/mention] dw about it, i’ve tunneled before too. it’s part of the game

also [mention]Alison[/mention] benson is town and you trying to force him back into the poe is not a good look

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

25

I honestly want to try and solve this gane. I also have no idea why I feel so energetic and eager to play this game right now lol.

I'm down with going dizzy here

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

im hard vetoing a dizzy yeet until he gets into the game, sorry

find someone else

[ColinIsCool]

Do we have all the claims compiled anywhere?

[Benson]

Yes, I never really left lol.

Returning for WWH lol

20

You know what I feel like claiming despite mine being unverifiable.

I can take away someone's vote each day.

I used it on Radish not expecting him to get shot but really happy about the outcome. I plan on using it on non town cleared individuals going forward

I think this is just almost always a wolf role. Like come on.

26

First I claimed willing. Second I said early mine was almost unverifiable. Third, wouldn't evils claim their cover roles? I know you could say this is my cover role.

Lastly the way I'm trying to use it to take away evils votes so I'm going with someone not lock clear.

I'm even up for us to consensus decide if we choose to go that route

True. But claiming willinginly isn't a big deal because everyone and their mom was claiming. Plus your role is basically useless to the town. It only makes sense to give that to the wolves (imo); but I will admit I have seen it given to the town in the past so it is possible.

I want to think the bit about the cover role is a derp clear (meaning it spews you town). Because surely those cover claims only refer to the actual characters and not the roles. Right??

OK. Seriously out this time. I don't even know how many posts I still have.

[Timsup2nothin]

@Benson dw about it, i’ve tunneled before too. it’s part of the game

also @Alison benson is town and you trying to force him back into the poe is not a good look

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

I'm kind of down to chopping Dyzzy. I think that catastrophic bloodbath so demoralizes any remaining wolf that if they were here it would show. Like I can't really picture WWH just calmly working out who is cleared and who isn't as the rest of the wolf team gets blown out of existence.

25

I honestly want to try and solve this gane. I also have no idea why I feel so energetic and eager to play this game right now lol.

I'm down with going dizzy here

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine

im hard vetoing a dizzy yeet until he gets into the game, sorry

find someone else

Okay. I'm fine with sheeping directly tbh. We have enough mech clears and near clears that pouring in a lot of brainpower is not super appealing. I'm gonna eat dinner and then if no one has presented some sort of lock down "we win" program I'll start re-reading and see what I can come up with.

It does seem almost possible for the POE to just tighten down pretty close around Dizzy though.

Alison maybe.

Rabbit may have lost a little bounce off normal Rabbit.

I dunno.

[Timsup2nothin]

What became of Protocultures? Can we just kill him?