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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Long Con wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:19 pm Like Colin not being mafia is nice to know but it would’ve been nicer imo to know Hally and LC were both hard confirmed lol
Hally can be bad without me being bad. We are not a package deal.
Hally can be Mafia and you can be town, yeah

If Hally is town it locks you as town tho
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Protocultures :woozy_face:

Now I want to believe Colin. But I'm not exactly putting a lot of thought into things anymore. Like is it really THIS easy?

Also, tutuu, this is for you

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:26 pm is it dumb if i want to vote nutella

does anyone scumread nutella or is she consensus townread
her perspective bothers me at points and shes like

somewhere bottom 5 in my personal poe but idk if thats misguided or what

but hally being real almost means nutella has to be real?

also from hally pov mr is confirmed scum and nutella still has the claim on that kill?

and also at other points her perspective feels totally fine to me and like fairly impressive if scum

in my book in a vacuum she had a less towny d2 than hally tho
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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iaafr wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:29 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:26 pm is it dumb if i want to vote nutella

does anyone scumread nutella or is she consensus townread
her perspective bothers me at points and shes like

somewhere bottom 5 in my personal poe but idk if thats misguided or what

but hally being real almost means nutella has to be real?

also from hally pov mr is confirmed scum and nutella still has the claim on that kill?

and also at other points her perspective feels totally fine to me and like fairly impressive if scum

in my book in a vacuum she had a less towny d2 than hally tho
she just shaded hally on the previous page which i dont understand because i also thought (idk why) that town!nutella and town!hally come together in one package
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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majority is like 7 and with wwh it might be 6 be careful pls
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Counterpoint, let’s get a claim from dizzy then hammer.
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Why wouldn't the wolves get a strongman or something? They still seem so underpowered.
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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the other option for a wolf!hally world is that it's hally/LC and hally carried the kill out of paranoia that someone would see LC visit and be like "hey wait a tick"

but i think that one's less likely

either way i think the only world where w!hally redirects colin is one where w!hally is forced to carry kp; i think otherwise they just let themselves be "cleared"

feel like proto/dizzy is realistically the PoE for today tbh

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:18 pm
Amy wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:15 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:14 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:13 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:11 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:56 pm @ColinIsCool what did i do last night?

everyone else should say who they targeted too

i will not disclose my action until colin posts
Targeted Dizzy
kay this checks out

i redirected you to wwh so you actually tracked her

she targeted dizzy which is why you got that result

that plus wwh not getting nk’d means you actually have a track and did not have a kill last night

it’s at the very least a soft clear
actually genius
also conveniently means we don't have a track result on hally themselves...............

but yes it's a smart way to check colin

4/60
i mean, the point wasn’t to get a result on me

the point was to confirm colin as real

i did that
i mean...ok
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:19 pm I don’t see what scum Hally has to gain by concocting a roundabout way of clearing me, or by trying to clear me at all.
i do lol but w/e
Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:21 pm Why is Colin cleared if there can be 5 wolves technically? He still can be a wolf with tracking abilities.
Like it's good. But not a sure thing.
yeah it's possible
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:20 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:17 pm Why would you do that Hally we could’ve cleared both you and LC
shrug

i assumes tutuu was checking in the clear group and would hard clear me because ppl were telling her to do that

i was post capped so i couldn’t coordinate anything and this seemed like a good idea
I gave tutuu a check pool in the POE

This was very meh tbh 🤦‍♀️
it wouldn’t have been meh if i had redirected colins kill to wwh and outed him as mafia

seems like he’s just town though
lol, this combined with the previous post of yours i just quoted has me feeling Some kind of way


but yeah i think we probably just yeet proto today and if the game continues we can think about this hally stuff more


linki: no, me and hally are not necessarily a package, i think there is a potential world where they faked the claim. nothing to do with me successfully killing radishes, just them potentially taking advantage of it to clear it as a red flip if it wasn't
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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[mention]Hally[/mention] you and nutella were telling me to peek wwh. now what? nutella is voting proto, what about you?
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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yea i think we should wait for everyone to check in and say what they did (which i guess is not dizzy atp) and then just quick hammer proto

more discussion is not helping us

we just need to burn through the poe and get night actions so we can lock the game
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Can we at least wait until I'm sober to yeet. Please and thanks. I'm not opposed to it tomorrow because at least we have nighttalk.

Also, did Proto just dip after like 1 post?
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yeah tbf ive been feeding nutella hallyparanoia for the possible v!radishesworld

and remember sod2 when nutella was like ". . . . . ." to tim claiming a green on radishes?

that felt real tbh

so like nutella's pov of tinfoiling radishes v with heavy fuckery from hally is still valid...?

though we still probably dont live in that sort of world today
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:33 pm @Hally you and nutella were telling me to peek wwh. now what? nutella is voting proto, what about you?
what do you mean, what about me?
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Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:34 pm Can we at least wait until I'm sober to yeet. Please and thanks. I'm not opposed to it tomorrow because at least we have nighttalk.

Also, did Proto just dip after like 1 post?
he hasnt even posted in d3
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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lol. I thought he posted for some reason.


Hally, why isn't your role scary enough to kill? Like the wolves knew I was never saving you.
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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i townread alison, we yeeted her over mechanics

i townread wwh, i peeked her over mechanics poe

i townread proto, he is about to get yeeted over mechanic poe

if proto flips town nobody (except me and wwh) gets to be clear. all of you worms go back to the poe and fight each other.

(linki i was asking for your poe hally, which u gave so i saw)
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you all have a skewed perception of me as a player if you think i’m smart enough as scum to fake claim this stuff

im not a string mechanical player. i would never in a million years think to fake claim what i’ve claimed this game as scum lol
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p sure both dizzy and proto are asleep and it'll be a while before we can hammer if we're waiting for them rip
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 pm i townread alison, we yeeted her over mechanics

i townread wwh, i peeked her over mechanics poe

i townread proto, he is about to get yeeted over mechanic poe

if proto flips town nobody (except me and wwh) gets to be clear. all of you worms go back to the poe and fight each other.

(linki i was asking for your poe hally, which u gave so i saw)
i mean. if you have a better idea I'm listening

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We already have proto’s claim don’t need to wait for that

Would kinda like dizzy’s but like

We’re probably just killing Proto today and we already lost the sweep to the surprise d2 hammer so 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 pm lol. I thought he posted for some reason.


Hally, why isn't your role scary enough to kill? Like the wolves knew I was never saving you.
why would they kill me when half the players are still tinfoiling me as a wolf

they need the poe as wide as possible

killing me confirms me town and by extension nut and lc are also confirmed

it also removes me from the poe

that’s a game losing play for scum if they do that
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:37 pm you all have a skewed perception of me as a player if you think i’m smart enough as scum to fake claim this stuff

im not a string mechanical player. i would never in a million years think to fake claim what i’ve claimed this game as scum lol
i mean, in the world where LC is your partner he could prob come up with it idk

but i don't know that i really think that's the world?

hm
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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i townread alison and i even expressed cold feet on the page that she got yeeted

also i shared the same townread of proto for d0 but i noted a downtrend d1

but ok tutuu

if you throw out all mech who do you think it is

nutella?

im fine with a nutella proto poe idgaf

also linkiedit: buying hally saying they couldnt come up with this claim as scum

it is a really weirdly specific claim and its "good" in the sense of "hard to come up with as a fake but easy to buy as something the host would put in"
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I also want to wait for consensus before I vote as well
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10

Personally I still think Nutella is town but I prob need to re-evaluate

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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if i throw away all of the mech stuff i think its nutella yes. purely by my perception of scumminess of day talk, i scumread nutella most

obviously im not going to insist, and i guess the proper way is to still to go with mechanics

but if i was more selfish here i was gonna peek nutella like i wanted to. idk i could be wrong!
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i would bet the game on nut being town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:39 pm
Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 pm lol. I thought he posted for some reason.


Hally, why isn't your role scary enough to kill? Like the wolves knew I was never saving you.
why would they kill me when half the players are still tinfoiling me as a wolf

they need the poe as wide as possible

killing me confirms me town and by extension nut and lc are also confirmed

it also removes me from the poe

that’s a game losing play for scum if they do that
Fine. I wanted to see how you'd approach that.

But let's be fair: we are almost always going for the low PoE before the tin foil catches up. I can convince people the theories are plausible, but I don't think we're actually going there before a couple more misyeets or a mechanical confirmations.
But I suppose if they're all in the PoE, their only hope may be the tin foil.
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tutuu is still literally unlimited shot and benson still has 1 more doc shot lol

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:42 pm if i throw away all of the mech stuff i think its nutella yes. purely by my perception of scumminess of day talk, i scumread nutella most

obviously im not going to insist, and i guess the proper way is to still to go with mechanics

but if i was more selfish here i was gonna peek nutella like i wanted to. idk i could be wrong!
in jack attack i got mech cleared and didn't really feel like putting in effort and so my posts were objectively not towny at all bc i felt i could just rely on the claim

could say this is kinda similar tho i'm less cleared and i personally feel like my play has been p objectively towny but if you don't see it idk what to tell you
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nutella wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:39 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:37 pm you all have a skewed perception of me as a player if you think i’m smart enough as scum to fake claim this stuff

im not a string mechanical player. i would never in a million years think to fake claim what i’ve claimed this game as scum lol
i mean, in the world where LC is your partner he could prob come up with it idk

but i don't know that i really think that's the world?

hm
Every situation like this, I think "man, I have to remember this as a wolf, and use something like it as a grand sneaky claim scheme!" I never really do though, my claim schemes have, to date, been much less inspired, like "I know Tony is that role and will claim it, but he hasn't been on since night ended so I'll claim it instead and see where that goes" and cross my fingers.
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i mean

im ok with hammering proto

thats my official stance

im not gonna vote on him yet tho, still wanna give people a chance to check in, w/e
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Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 pm i would bet the game on nut being town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
god do you feel the haunted by slep ptsd rn or is that just me

combined with jack attack ptsd tbh with the mech clears and stuff and how something could just be a misclear


it's like a combo of those two but they both ended up as crushing losses and i just really, really want this one to go right. we got this
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This game just might be terribly balanced (no offense) based on the roles and the player distribution. And I suppose it could be that the wolves had some great roles that were snuffed before they could do anything.

Maybe I'm just so biased towards fake claiming and mechanics because that's how I'd wolf here. And that's what I expected in a game where almost everyone has some power.

I'll go now since I haven't contributed meaningfully since D1.
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[VOTE: ?????????] aubergine
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nutella wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:47 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 pm i would bet the game on nut being town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
god do you feel the haunted by slep ptsd rn or is that just me

combined with jack attack ptsd tbh with the mech clears and stuff and how something could just be a misclear


it's like a combo of those two but they both ended up as crushing losses and i just really, really want this one to go right. we got this
i think we will win

and if we don’t win after dunking three wolves so quickly it will be because we deserve to lose
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Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:49 pm This game just might be terribly balanced (no offense) based on the roles and the player distribution. And I suppose it could be that the wolves had some great roles that were snuffed before they could do anything.

Maybe I'm just so biased towards fake claiming and mechanics because that's how I'd wolf here. And that's what I expected in a game where almost everyone has some power.

I'll go now since I haven't contributed meaningfully since D1.
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iaafr wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:50 pm
Benson wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:49 pm This game just might be terribly balanced (no offense) based on the roles and the player distribution. And I suppose it could be that the wolves had some great roles that were snuffed before they could do anything.

Maybe I'm just so biased towards fake claiming and mechanics because that's how I'd wolf here. And that's what I expected in a game where almost everyone has some power.

I'll go now since I haven't contributed meaningfully since D1.
dont get emo sometimes we dont need to do anything but shitpost and annoy the clears while they carry

i have highly enjoyed your presence, you think very similarly to me overall
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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see you in f3 benson ;)
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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apart from perceived towny day play, is there anything mechanically clearing these people:

proto - dizzy - iaafr - amy - benson
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:53 pm apart from perceived towny day play, is there anything mechanically clearing these people:

proto - dizzy - iaafr - amy - benson
you are correct in identifying this as the exact poe if we buy all nut/hally mech
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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okay (cuz i legit havent read, lol)
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:53 pm apart from perceived towny day play, is there anything mechanically clearing these people:

proto - dizzy - iaafr - amy - benson
nope!


closest is that benson claimed to save you which seems likely to be what happened but nothing proving it
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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id be pretty proud of myself if i was scum in this game rn tbh

but thats how every single town game ever goes
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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nutella wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:55 pm
tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:53 pm apart from perceived towny day play, is there anything mechanically clearing these people:

proto - dizzy - iaafr - amy - benson
nope!


closest is that benson claimed to save you which seems likely to be what happened but nothing proving it
yea i tried isoing tim to see if he mentioned him risk of dying from his inventions but saw he had 207 and gave up on it

who wants to iso tim and see if he mentioning something about that for a free townread
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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i don’t think benson saved tutuu

tim just got shot

scum wouldn’t kill tutuu because tim said he was giving her a security system that would out anyone who targeted her

wolves wouldn’t take that risk
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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iaafr ur in the poe. iso all of tim's posts and see what he mentioned about risk of death. if u dont do this ur confirmed member of the mafia
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 1]

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Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:03 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:54 pm @Timsup2nothin can u pls hard claim ur role btw? (is that even legal? dont do it if its illegal)

like, specifically the nationality of ur philosopher. actually no, can u claim the whole thing? (the flavor) (but only if its legal)

u softed a bit about some of the philosophy of ur person on d0. i wanna know if it holds up, and i wanna know that he's not a FILTHY GREEK
I already said I was German and you are welcome to check. I am an inventor. I built Rabbit a soapbox to stand on so he could make more posts. If you search the thread for "soapbox" you will see that I used the word earlier, and if you ISO me you will find that I said specifically to Rabbit "If I had a PR I'd give it to you." My claim may not seem like much, but it is clearly verifiable.

It also has more powerful options, but the more powerful the thing that I build the higher the risk it will fail. The soapbox is like 10% daily...Rabbit use it freely I think you get notified first thing at SoD if it breaks that day. I can only build things as gifts, not for myself...and didn't want to make someone something they would be relying on heavily and have it break.
he only mentioned risk of the invention itself failing (and ive already experienced the soapbox breaking after 3 out of the 10 posts it was supposed to give me n2)

never mentioned risk of dying due to attempting invention
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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 3]

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Hally wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:57 pm i don’t think benson saved tutuu

tim just got shot

scum wouldn’t kill tutuu because tim said he was giving her a security system that would out anyone who targeted her

wolves wouldn’t take that risk
hmm that's fair

i still feel like tim's death was not the mafia kill tho??


i mean theres like a crazy tinfoil world where benson just like holstered so he could claim a tutuu save but that seems farfetched
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