Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[iaafr]

its possible scum misinterpreted the level of utility of tims inventions and thought him successfully building a security system would lock the game or something idk

or in a more general sense, its possible they considered tim the strongest pr remaining for some reason (though in my eyes hally was still the obvious choice [but again tinfoils])

[nutella]

@Timsup2nothin can u pls hard claim ur role btw? (is that even legal? dont do it if its illegal)

like, specifically the nationality of ur philosopher. actually no, can u claim the whole thing? (the flavor) (but only if its legal)

u softed a bit about some of the philosophy of ur person on d0. i wanna know if it holds up, and i wanna know that he's not a FILTHY GREEK

I already said I was German and you are welcome to check. I am an inventor. I built Rabbit a soapbox to stand on so he could make more posts. If you search the thread for "soapbox" you will see that I used the word earlier, and if you ISO me you will find that I said specifically to Rabbit "If I had a PR I'd give it to you." My claim may not seem like much, but it is clearly verifiable.

It also has more powerful options, but the more powerful the thing that I build the higher the risk it will fail. The soapbox is like 10% daily...Rabbit use it freely I think you get notified first thing at SoD if it breaks that day. I can only build things as gifts, not for myself...and didn't want to make someone something they would be relying on heavily and have it break.

he only mentioned risk of the invention itself failing (and ive already experienced the soapbox breaking after 3 out of the 10 posts it was supposed to give me n2)

never mentioned risk of dying due to attempting invention

didn't he say something a couple times about building a nuclear weapon and he wasn't sure if tsp would "let" him

what if it was that

[iaafr]

@Timsup2nothin can u pls hard claim ur role btw? (is that even legal? dont do it if its illegal)

like, specifically the nationality of ur philosopher. actually no, can u claim the whole thing? (the flavor) (but only if its legal)

u softed a bit about some of the philosophy of ur person on d0. i wanna know if it holds up, and i wanna know that he's not a FILTHY GREEK

I already said I was German and you are welcome to check. I am an inventor. I built Rabbit a soapbox to stand on so he could make more posts. If you search the thread for "soapbox" you will see that I used the word earlier, and if you ISO me you will find that I said specifically to Rabbit "If I had a PR I'd give it to you." My claim may not seem like much, but it is clearly verifiable.

It also has more powerful options, but the more powerful the thing that I build the higher the risk it will fail. The soapbox is like 10% daily...Rabbit use it freely I think you get notified first thing at SoD if it breaks that day. I can only build things as gifts, not for myself...and didn't want to make someone something they would be relying on heavily and have it break.

he only mentioned risk of the invention itself failing (and ive already experienced the soapbox breaking after 3 out of the 10 posts it was supposed to give me n2)

never mentioned risk of dying due to attempting invention

didn't he say something a couple times about building a nuclear weapon and he wasn't sure if tsp would "let" him

what if it was that

i took that as a joke

[iaafr]

i thought about asking tutuu if she's received anything but i decided there's nothing to be gained from asking that question and we probably shouldnt have tutuu out if she received anything

[Hally]

i don’t think benson saved tutuu

tim just got shot

scum wouldn’t kill tutuu because tim said he was giving her a security system that would out anyone who targeted her

wolves wouldn’t take that risk

hmm that's fair

i still feel like tim's death was not the mafia kill tho??


i mean theres like a crazy tinfoil world where benson just like holstered so he could claim a tutuu save but that seems farfetched

it’s a somewhat weird kill choice but occams razor says mafia killed tim

don’t think there’s any other way tim could have died

[nutella]

i sort of did too but as with a lot of things wasn't quite sure lol

like based on various things he said, plus the nietzche flavor and the wording of the night post, i just wouldn't be surprised if his death was related to his role

but nothing specific points to it

[tutuu]

did long con ever claim his role apart from having a 1-shot bp? he mentioned something about having percentages?

[Benson]

Coming back to say I really don't want a quick hammer tonight. Many players haven't and won't have good chance to review things or do work they want. I get streamlining but let's not be silly. There are a couple things I want to go through as well.

And guys, that's what Tim would've wanted. And who knows, maybe that's why he died - for that attitude of always doing your due diligence, even in the face on a seemingly easy path.

[nutella]

did long con ever claim his role apart from having a 1-shot bp? he mentioned something about having percentages?

i assumed the vest itself was 80%?

[iaafr]

LC is confirmed from v!hallys pov so

he is impossible to tinfoil without also tinfoiling hally

the converse isnt true (w hally / v lc is possible), but yeah

probably just cant be lc

i still buy that hally just couldnt make that claim up as wolf

[Long Con]

There's more, but it's passive.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Coming back to say I really don't want a quick hammer tonight. Many players haven't and won't have good chance to review things or do work they want. I get streamlining but let's not be silly. There are a couple things I want to go through as well.

And guys, that's what Tim would've wanted. And who knows, maybe that's why he died - for that attitude of always doing your due diligence, even in the face on a seemingly easy path.

There’s night chat so

[Hally]

LC is confirmed from v!hallys pov so

he is impossible to tinfoil without also tinfoiling hally

the converse isnt true (w hally / v lc is possible), but yeah

probably just cant be lc

i still buy that hally just couldnt make that claim up as wolf

lc is also confirmed tracked nowhere by colin N1 so he isn’t lying about not having an active ability if we assume colin is real, which i do because of my action

[iaafr]

LC is confirmed from v!hallys pov so

he is impossible to tinfoil without also tinfoiling hally

the converse isnt true (w hally / v lc is possible), but yeah

probably just cant be lc

i still buy that hally just couldnt make that claim up as wolf

lc is also confirmed tracked nowhere by colin N1 so he isn’t lying about not having an active ability if we assume colin is real, which i do because of my action

did you ever respond to me asking what result you get if you attempt to redir from wolf to wolf? sorry if i missed it

[Hally]

but like, from y’alls pov of not knowing me, colin and lc are clear ig the track result doesn’t necessarily mean anything

but like

there’s at most two wolves left so if a tinfoil requires more than two ppl bring wolves together to be true it’s not the world

[Hally]

LC is confirmed from v!hallys pov so

he is impossible to tinfoil without also tinfoiling hally

the converse isnt true (w hally / v lc is possible), but yeah

probably just cant be lc

i still buy that hally just couldnt make that claim up as wolf

lc is also confirmed tracked nowhere by colin N1 so he isn’t lying about not having an active ability if we assume colin is real, which i do because of my action

did you ever respond to me asking what result you get if you attempt to redir from wolf to wolf? sorry if i missed it

i don’t get any result

it fails and i’m not informed of that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

For Nutes to be mafia we have to get into some weird worlds...radishes would have to be the town vig that got NKed while shooting LC, got rolecopped the same night, then nutes claimed his role...mafia has two KP at least one night and one of those KP is janitored and/or Bob or fourth scum X has/had a janitor role...

Idk like these aren’t worlds I really want to think about until f5 tbh, for now I think Occam’s razor applies and Nutella is probably just town and radishes was probably just mafia.

[Hally]

me, nut, lc and colin are all wolves who concocted this scheme in our woofer chat

soon we will reach parity wowee.jpg

[iaafr]

me, nut, lc and colin are all wolves who concocted this scheme in our woofer chat

soon we will reach parity wowee.jpg

fucking knew it

[VOTE: hally] aubergine

[Hally]

[VOTE: proto] aubergine

i’m fine hammering this whenever tbh

[Hally]

if killing proto doesn’t end it idk what kind of world we’re in lol

[iaafr]

[VOTE: protocultures] aubergine

ya tbh im impatient sorry benson

also this is elim - 2 (1 if youre a votestealing frenchie)

[tutuu]

we should have known the votestealing frenchie was town, if she was scum she would have surrendered already

[Long Con]

I have to be part of this vote. [VOTE: proto] aubergine

[Hally]

there’s only 12 ppl alive right? so isn’t 6 votes maj?

[iaafr]

there’s only 12 ppl alive right? so isn’t 6 votes maj?

maj is 50% +1 on every site ive ever seen (including mu)

[Hally]

or is it 7?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wut

7 is majority of 12

Not 6

50% is not a majority

[Hally]

yea i think it’s 7

[Benson]

Whatever. Sure, just flush someone before they can say anything.

It's a bad habit but idc. If this is another misyeet I want tutuu to check hally while colin tracks hally. I'll save tutuu again.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ve heard kf sites where hammer is 50%

But that’s not majority lulz

[iaafr]

ok i moved off because benson post shrug

[Benson]

[VOTE: no chop] aubergine

[Hally]

i mean i’m not sure what proto could say to exit the poe

he claimed he’s now vt so he no longer has results he can give

[Benson]

ok i moved off because benson post shrug

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I just think it's blatantly disrespectful to elim a non-confirmed player before they can even react to it. Even if you probably aren't changing your mind.
And the round is like 2 hours old too. lol

[Benson]

I guess I'm used to there not being a nightchat available, but it still doesn't seem like good practice.

[protocultures]

confirming that i targeted dizzy

rip tim also weirdchamp kill

there's way better medic dodges

flavor almost makes me wonder if tim's death was self-inflicted and scum ran into a benson save on tutuu?

1/60

This! It does look like that. Or something like that.

I don't know why it would have been worded with "self inflicted" if it was an MK.

I did save tutuu last night - this is a 100% serious claim.

So some quick thoughts

Mafia KNOWS tutuu is the cop. They also know benson is likely doc.

If mafia have a redirect, they redirect Benson and kill Tutuu.

The fact Tutuu is not dead, means that Tutuu's check on WWH was not redirected.

Thats my logic assuming benson is town (and I TR Benson btw).

Just wanted to make that point before I forget later.

[Amy]

let's at least let proto/dizzy check in before we hammer lol

10/60

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’s not that disrespectful imo, just a game that’s probably locked. It happens

[Benson]

But then looking at Tim's recent ISO reminds me he was pretty set on proto being the next right kill already last night. I think even before Alison's elim and definitely after.
So a fear kill there also aligns to proto wolf world.

[Hally]

confirming that i targeted dizzy

rip tim also weirdchamp kill

there's way better medic dodges

flavor almost makes me wonder if tim's death was self-inflicted and scum ran into a benson save on tutuu?

1/60

This! It does look like that. Or something like that.

I don't know why it would have been worded with "self inflicted" if it was an MK.

I did save tutuu last night - this is a 100% serious claim.

So some quick thoughts

Mafia KNOWS tutuu is the cop. They also know benson is likely doc.

If mafia have a redirect, they redirect Benson and kill Tutuu.

The fact Tutuu is not dead, means that Tutuu's check on WWH was not redirected.

Thats my logic assuming benson is town (and I TR Benson btw).

Just wanted to make that point before I forget later.

i dont understand what youre saying here at all

[WerewolfHunter]

[VOTE: proto] aubergine11

Agreed let's let everyone check in first.

I won't officially vote until we have approval

[tutuu]

well the purpose of using the vote tags is to signal you voting in the pool but feel free to play with the toys however u want

[iaafr]

btw idk if you guys noticed but I changed my votes like at least 10 times while postcapped d1 rofl

[Benson]

It’s not that disrespectful imo, just a game that’s probably locked. It happens

We have the most polar opposite philosophies so I don't expect to find common ground lol.

If we knowingly chopped Alison last night before she could share her thoughts or respond it would've been disrespectful. I'm sorry for my part in that. You're about to take someone out of the game by vote. At least have the decency to give them their final moments to get thoughts out in case they're town.

[Benson]

btw idk if you guys noticed but I changed my votes like at least 10 times while postcapped d1 rofl

I saw a few lmao

[nutella]

btw idk if you guys noticed but I changed my votes like at least 10 times while postcapped d1 rofl

we noticed at least a couple of the times

[WerewolfHunter]

well the purpose of using the vote tags is to signal you voting in the pool but feel free to play with the toys however u want

11

I know it is however that would lead to me hammering and I think it's too early

[Benson]

well the purpose of using the vote tags is to signal you voting in the pool but feel free to play with the toys however u want

11

I know it is however that would lead to me hammering and I think it's too early

I think you're supposed to do both otherwise it can be confusing.

[Hally]

tbh actually mafia killing tim could be like a game losing play

they really had to target within the clears because like, eventually i will be confirmed and so will nut, lc, colin, tutuu, wwh and nanook

and like, i don’t think wolves have enough nights left to kill all the clear ppl if they didn’t start like... last night and even then it’s a stretch

but like i think no matter what kill they make there theyre fucked in some way