nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:33 pm
@tutuu not sure I was ever totally clear on this, does your role explicitly say the mafia are greek, or is it more like just a parity check and you just pieced it together since kza was greek?
I just find it sorta weird that the role would tell you straight out like that idk
27/30
all mafia are the same nationality. im not told they're explicitly greek
running out of posts, i just wanna post this again:
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:53 pm
-Mafia!Benson will die right now.
-Mafia!Amy dies tommorrow.
-Colin can't be the last Mafia, because if he was, he would have killed WWH on N2.
-Mafia!iaafr gets caught by Hally as he is forced to kill WWH
-Mafia!Nanook gets caught by Town!Amy (barring an exception. would appreciate help if anyone can tell me if a Greek Classicism philosopher exists)
-Mafia!Nutella can't be the last Mafia if only 1 maf remaining, because she couldn't have shot her own teammate, Maf!MR. Like literally I'm assuming it's impossible.
-Mafia!Proto gets caught by Colin.
-Mafia!LC can't be the last Mafia if only 1 maf remaining, because then Hally's action of redirecting Mafia!MR's shot on Mafia!LC would have failed. It's how Hally's role works.
-WWH is always conf town.
-The only one not getting immediately outed if the last living Mafia is Hally. But more to that later:
protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:16 pm
People prob lying about their roles a bit (even as town) so you may not get the mech confirms you want next day.
I have no lies to tell, only information that is mine alone, lest I end up like Dizzy. I actually thought I would have said a little more, but Dizzy's death was scary. I don't even know what he said that triggered it.
you can always ask tsp what you can and can't say
I believe I know what it was dizzy said that was illegal
protocultures wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:16 pm
People prob lying about their roles a bit (even as town) so you may not get the mech confirms you want next day.
I have no lies to tell, only information that is mine alone, lest I end up like Dizzy. I actually thought I would have said a little more, but Dizzy's death was scary. I don't even know what he said that triggered it.
you can always ask tsp what you can and can't say
I believe I know what it was dizzy said that was illegal
the rules are pretty clear cut
There's nothing that I really need to say - nothing that would change our plans or anything. I might have just given a little more so that I'm not such a giant question mark out here.
Like the benefits of Hally being tracked and Nutella being peeked are huge, a green on either one pushes the game pretty close to an actual lock mech solve.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:38 pm
It makes so much more sense to me to track Hally and peek Nutella. Getting a result on Hally is so, so good for the game imo
Track hally and then what? Confirm them as redirector? I believe theyre mechanically confirmed redirector of some alignment regardless, i thought out loud about it earlier. Please, let us clear proto of the tinfoil. Yall say how proto obviously should have been the yeet over benson, why back down
Hally maf leads to 2 living maf worlds. Thats why im not clearing them from the 1 living maf world. Like if it gets there they would get the yeet regardless (imo)
I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess
I did say later its a mistake for me to peek hally yes, since there are 2 chinese claims and they can redirect me to proto, and nutella being the only living german claim makes it better
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:11 pm
I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess
I respect that you're better at this than me but I fail to see the logic in tracking hally lol, like tutuu said they could do the redirect and still be mafia, if they're mafia you could get the kill I guess but i think they're only ever mafia with LC or Colin and the other one would just do the kill. whereas with tracking proto he supposedly has no action left so if he does anything it's the kill right? plus if colin is hally's teammate he'd just lie about that track? idk i guess i'm just missing something but whatever I'm not going to make any kind of calls here
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:11 pm
I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess
I respect that you're better at this than me but I fail to see the logic in tracking hally lol, like tutuu said they could do the redirect and still be mafia, if they're mafia you could get the kill I guess but i think they're only ever mafia with LC or Colin and the other one would just do the kill. whereas with tracking proto he supposedly has no action left so if he does anything it's the kill right? plus if colin is hally's teammate he'd just lie about that track? idk i guess i'm just missing something but whatever I'm not going to make any kind of calls here
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
that nk makes proto look bad because colin was meant to track him so only way proto could not be outed was to kill proto
nut being v strongly indicates radishes w btw because of her role having increased hit rate for wolves
also the radishes v world required him to be town vig to account for lc’s vest breaking but now we know for sure town vig is nut so radishes kp was mafia kill
And you guys thought I was stupid for wanting to kill Proto first smh
There is another possibility here, that scum killed Proto cause checks are meaningless (i.e., there’s a godfather), but like...easy answer is more often the correct one imo
We should force Amy to clear me before hammering Proto tho just to make sure our bases are covered (although I don’t think faking a red buys Amy enough time anyway so maybe it doesn’t matter!)
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:04 pm
thank god colin listened to tutuu GOAT and nutella GOAT and tracked proto instead of listening to nanook WOAT and tracked hally
Either way Proto was dying today without a red on someone else
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:14 pm
i find that protocultures post wolfy
too backseaty and not forceful
honestly proto's presence in general doesnt feel as forceful as what little i saw in space invaders...
linki: i think tim is town believing what he's writing though, and not w/w powerwolf with protocultures if protocultures w (and i might just be wrong in the first place)