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Ned Flanders · #1251

Havok wrote:Ok, so it looks like Avalanche was removed on Day 2. Longshot was removed Day 3. Looks like no one was missing from poll on Day 4 and now Day 5.

So after seeing this, it looks like either Scarlet Witch or Dazzler was Archangel.

Epignosis: If a player is nightkilled, does their power still go through for that night?

I felt pretty good about Dazzler, tbh, and not so good about Scarlet after she was the deciding vote in the T-Bird lynch against Quicksilver...who came up Psylocke. Plus Dazzler was overkilled by more than one killer.

There is only one Seemer, last game I played where people kept thinking the Seemer was dead, they were one of the last bad roles to go iirc. So no saying who was whom. But in my gut, I feel better about Dazzler than Scarlet.

Operator · #1252

Havok wrote:Mikhail Rasputin, Banshee:

I suspect you two (Along with Mojo but it looks like Mojo may have finally realized that Exodus= Mystique doesn't make sense) for trying to continue to push the idea that the info that was dumped was genuine/just blindly accepting it. Why is it likely that the info dumps were actually true? There is nothing to back it up other than 2 people (That came out of nowhere with these claims I might add) saying that it was so. Everything that has actually happened in the game is telling us that the info dumps were not true.

MR: you also say that Dazzler=Brotherhood just because 2 killers targeted her? I've seen players targeted by multiple baddie/indy killers on the same night before. I'm not sure how the conclusion was come to in the first place that just because 2 killers targeted her that it meant she was bad? In The Island game on RM, Tranq was killed by both the baddies and Widmore on the same night and there was no target switching involved. The main reason I suspect you is not for No U, and I think it's funny that you try to use that. All of my suspicions in this game have been well thought out. I'm not blindly believing anything or throwing my suspicions in unwarranted directions. You on the otherhand pretty much are. You started out being reasonable and thoughtful, but ever since this happened with these fake info dumps, you seem to have thrown logic out the door in support of this nonsense info dumping.

I think you have me confused with someone else. I have never once pushed the idea that the info dumps were real, or the idea that they aren't. In fact, I've been very clear about doing my best to ignore them altogether. I also never once said that Dazzler was Brotherhood. She was killed partly by the Brotherhood, so that would be a stupid thing to say. \

Please read my posts before accusing me of saying the opposite of what I actually believe.

Snapshot · #1253

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:
I will most likely be voting Havok today. It'd be cool if others joined me. Maybe I'm getting tunnel vision (and please say so if your name is n't Havok and you think I am), but his responses to....well, everything lately....reek of insincere pleading and baddieness to me, and I don't think there has been enough suspicion on him for Magneto to have targeted him last night. So a safe lynch imo.

Mikhail, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that I feel Havok is civvie. I think he may have a blinder issue with you, because I don't think you fit as easily into the current working model of who The Brotherhood is as he thinks. That said, you're an anomaly to me, I feel like you could be Apocalypse or one of the other indies tbh, but I'm not going to worry about that because we really need a break against the brotherhood more than anything.

Operator · #1254

White Queen wrote:I voted Sunfire; that name keeps coming up, and it keeps getting pushed to the side. I think Rasputin is misguided as to Havok, tbh. I could be mistaken, but i think a big push is being made to deflect from Sunfire.

I will ask yet again....hopefully for the last time. I'm interested in the Sunfire case, but I still don't understand it. Is it based on anything other than Prof. X's message?

Operator · #1255

The Vision wrote:
Mikhail Rasputin wrote:
I will most likely be voting Havok today. It'd be cool if others joined me. Maybe I'm getting tunnel vision (and please say so if your name is n't Havok and you think I am), but his responses to....well, everything lately....reek of insincere pleading and baddieness to me, and I don't think there has been enough suspicion on him for Magneto to have targeted him last night. So a safe lynch imo.
Mikhail, I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that I feel Havok is civvie. I think he may have a blinder issue with you, because I don't think you fit as easily into the current working model of who The Brotherhood is as he thinks. That said, you're an anomaly to me, I feel like you could be Apocalypse or one of the other indies tbh, but I'm not going to worry about that because we really need a break against the brotherhood more than anything.

Thanks, Vision. I'm not an indie, or a baddie for that matter, but I don't expect you to take my word for it.

One thing your post seems to imply is that Havok suspected me before I suspected him; the opposite is actually true, and I think that's worth noticing.

You and White Queen sticking up for Havok gives me pause, because I have pretty good feels about both of you, generally speaking. So I'll try to look at everything with fresh eyes.

Celeste · #1256

Mojo wrote:Ok... So my question is to shadowcat. I want to know who you targeted on night 2?

I targeted Longshot. I hate saying that in-thread, but it might be the only way to save myself. And now if I avoid getting lynched today, I stand a great chance of being NKed.

Operator · #1257

Ok, really??

Whether everything you're saying is true or not, this is getting kinda annoying. I signed up to play a game or mafia, which means guessing roles. It just takes the fun out of the game, telling everyone who everyone is. And if you're a baddie, it still strikes me as kinda unsportsmanlike to be using quite this much out-of-thread material to give weight to your lies. That's just me though.

I may switch my vote to Shadowcat.

NurseWilgy · #1258

I have work today so this may be the chance i have to post before the vote, but everyone Civ please read and take warning to what may happen to the votes for the Brotherhood if SC or I go today. If they lynched one ofus, we will flip Civ cconfirming what I said about Exodus being Mystique and then the one of us alive will be NK. Please read how i posted it made sense him going instead of Sunfire and making them not have enough votes and either Baddie was going to go. If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go. Havok is leading you the way he is saying we are by "two or three brotherhood dominating the thread". This vote is crucial. If he is Magneto like i think, Sunfire has to go so Havok's votes dont go onto me or SC.

Golf · #1259

She just answered my question. Which the host said I could ask....

Operator · #1260

Mojo wrote:She just answered my question. Which the host said I could ask....

I know, Mojo. I don't blame you for asking. And maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, idk.

Going into this game, I was super excited to be civ and try to do some deducing, since I haven't been in 6-7 games. I just feel like since yesterday, instead of getting to do that, we're being handed names and told "lynch these because I have info they're bad". For me it takes the fun out a bit.

Snapshot · #1261

Domino wrote:If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go.

How do you know Exodus didn't try to save himself? Gambit doesn't get to know how much his special vote is worth. It's about a 40% chance of being worth 1 or 0. If Exodus was Gambit, it made sense to put his vote on Shadowcat, who accused him with info that clearly, theoretically, in his eyes made her likely bad. He voted her, and had so many votes against him in the end that even if he had gotten lucky with his power, it may not have been enough.

There is nothing about his lynch that can suggest that he wasn't Gambit. And since you insinuated that YOU are Gambit, I'm a little surprised that you don't see this. I would have thought you would understand the mechanics of "your role" a little better.

Snapshot · #1262

Hey Mikhail, since those of us who you feel good about are suggesting that you should trust Havok, how about moving your vote off of him? I wouldn't want somethign to come up and you can't get back in time to move it later...

I wouldn't mind another vote or two on Domino/Shadowcat, what do you think?

Golf · #1263

Well if shadowcat is brotherhood, wouldn't it be likely that they are directing the votes off her and onto two others today? Or does anyone think they chose another member?

Paul Stevens · #1264

The last Night and Day have made for some very interesting reading and deducing. Although I definitely wouldn't say I was sure about anybody after the last lynch, I feel even more unsure at this point. I thought the immediate response about Exodus being Mystique was really weird and suspicious at first, but now I'm not so sure, although I was pretty convinced Exodus was Civ. I'm not saying I'm necessarily buying the Mystique theory at this point, but I also am not completely throwing it out as a possibility.

I agree that with the logic produced by a couple of players, I find it hard to believe that the baddies would throw Exodus/Mystique under the bus for the reasons stated (I don't feel like I need to re-hash, unless someone feels that I do to prove I've been thinking about the vote). However, it wouldn't be unheard of, either. Leaning more towards the former, if you must know.

I know I'm a relatively quiet player, but there are other less loquacious players (tee hee, I love vocabulary) that I've been suspecting for a little while now because of the way they've been popping in and explaining (or not explaining) their lynch choices, usually based on the current bandwagon. However, they are not at the forefront, and my pointing out my suspicions at this point probably won't change anyone's mind for today's lynch.

TBH, I can't get Sunfire out of my head. MR, I know you've been asking what makes people suspicious of Sunfire besides Professor X's message. For me, it's the consistent pulling away of attention from him that makes me most suspicious. I could've brushed it off as coincidence a day ago, but it's the second round that people keep pulling attention away. Personally, I've been curious as to why your opinion of him changed (and I'm sorry if I missed your explanation, but I'm a pretty thorough reader, so enlighten me or point me to where you've explained yourself).

(Whew! Amazing how days off will let you catch up

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Snapshot · #1265

Mojo wrote:Well if shadowcat is brotherhood, wouldn't it be likely that they are directing the votes off her and onto two others today? Or does anyone think they chose another member?

Whether they chose Shadowcat or Exodus or someone else, we can't know. So if we keep the two of them roughly equal in votes, if one of them IS in line to be saved by Magneto, the other should still get lynched. Only if the votes are quite uneven should it go wrong.

Snapshot · #1266

Oh, and somehow I only just noticed that Exodus isn't on the poll. Where did I miss that?

Snapshot · #1267

Ignore me. The last hour I've gotten Exodus/Domino mixed up in my mind. LOL

Snapshot · #1268

I've moved my vote to Domino to keep thigns roughly even between him and Shadowcat. Domino is CLEARLY not Gambit, imo.

Lunatella · #1269

Cable.

Operator · #1270

Phoenix wrote:I agree that with the logic produced by a couple of players, I find it hard to believe that the baddies would throw Exodus/Mystique under the bus for the reasons stated (I don't feel like I need to re-hash, unless someone feels that I do to prove I've been thinking about the vote).

I know I'm a relatively quiet player, but there are other less loquacious players (tee hee, I love vocabulary) that I've been suspecting for a little while now because of the way they've been popping in and explaining (or not explaining) their lynch choices, usually based on the current bandwagon. However, they are not at the forefront, and my pointing out my suspicions at this point probably won't change anyone's mind for today's lynch.

TBH, I can't get Sunfire out of my head. MR, I know you've been asking what makes people suspicious of Sunfire besides Professor X's message. For me, it's the consistent pulling away of attention from him that makes me most suspicious. I could've brushed it off as coincidence a day ago, but it's the second round that people keep pulling attention away. Personally, I've been curious as to why your opinion of him changed (and I'm sorry if I missed your explanation, but I'm a pretty thorough reader, so enlighten me or point me to where you've explained yourself).

Personally, I think it's believable that baddies would throw Mystique under the bus, faced with info thy can't refute.

I did a big review of all of Sunfire's stuff 2 days ago. Lemme find it...

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:I reread Sunfire, as well.

I'm not sure what to think. Some of his posts actually strike me as pretty helpful, and some thing were a bit suspicious.

Sunfire wrote:I'm sorry I suspected you. :/ But alas, on Day 1 there is never much to go on as I said before. Next time
This was his "RIP Deathlok" post, and it strikes me as a bit....nonchalant, I guess. Very unconcerned with having killed a civ. I'm not saying I need people to be crying when they make a mistake, it happens, but he's very quick to excuse himself entirely just because it was Day 1. His original explanation of that vote was weird as well.
Sunfire wrote: I think pointing out potential slips may be something scum would do to keep attention away from them. I am not saying that is definitely what is going on here, but it is a bit of something to go on. It IS only Day 1.
Baddie hunting is a clever tactic to distract people from baddie hunting? And it's Day 1, so it doesn't really matter who we lynch? That's how this reads to me.

Sunfire was the first to point out that Avalanche and White Queen were the two silenced players yesterday. I think this was helpful to do.

He threw away his vote Day 2, when it could've mattered, because he suspected Quicksilver, just not quite enough.

Since Night 2, he's been quick to say "Me, too!" in response to 3 or 4 other things (you can all look those up yourselves if you want, these posts are huge enough already).

However, he's done a decent job of questioning people like Quicksilver and Sebastian Shaw to get better explanations, which I like.

tl;dr: I will be keeping an eye on Sunfire, and I think others should too. However, I don't think there's enough to go on today to vote him.

I'll be deciding between Spiral and Quicksilver today.

So! My opinion of him never actually changed; I just said I still didn't think there was enough info to vote him. I don't think he's been very active since then, so I don't think there's much more to go on than there was.

I don't think I'm understanding correctly. You think Sunfire is bad because sometimes people talk about him and sometimes they don't? I realize I'm oversimplifying, but as I understand it, that's more or less what is meant by talk moving away from him consistently. I would totally be on board with that, if I saw any other thread-based case that explains why he was being talked about in the first place. I'm really just waiting for someone to make a case with quotes and such, and no one has been willing or able to do so yet. I'm afraid that lynching Sunfire at this point would be a lot like lynching QS, where he kinda just died because he was being talked about a lot, and people took that to mean he was bad without looking at facts.

Snapshot · #1271

Sebastian Shaw wrote:Cable.

So... no opinion whatsoever about... anything else at all? No case on Cable, either? Just... "Cable"?

Operator · #1272

SEBASTIAN! Have a chat with us, please! What's your opinion on anything that has happened in this game in the past 3 days? You can pick anything you want, I don't care what it is. Please just say something besides a name and a believed alignment.

Operator · #1273

Mikhail Rasputin wrote: Now that we know QS was good and it was not a save, are you still suspicious of Tbird voters? Any particular ones? And why or why not?

Speaking of Havok, I realized he never responded to this. I was super curious to hear what he had to say at the time, and I still am.
I would love it if you could answer this. Same question to Shaw, actually.

Operator · #1274

It's weird that people are calling me MR! It makes me think of Mister Rearranger.

The Vision wrote:Hey Mikhail, since those of us who you feel good about are suggesting that you should trust Havok, how about moving your vote off of him? I wouldn't want somethign to come up and you can't get back in time to move it later...

I wouldn't mind another vote or two on Domino/Shadowcat, what do you think?

I don't know. I don't personally think Shadowcat is a terrific vote for today. I do know I don't plan to let you decide my vote for me

. Just because people I feel good about trust him doesn't mean I'm not wrong about them, or that they're not wrong about him. And his responses to every suspicion of him and of Exodus have just been so over-the-top and visceral, but all presented as if it's based in sound logic, when really he's been making the same few points over and over and over even when they've been responded to. I'll be around, though. If I feel my vote needs changing, I'll change it.

Snapshot · #1275

Shadowcat and Domino's info bombs certainly COULD be a way to deflect from Sunfire. But until we confirm one of them is bad, I don't see how a Sunfire lynch makes sense.

@Mikhail, I'm not tryign to badger you, no worries. Tell me... do you believe Domino is Gambit?

Operator · #1276

No, I don't. I mean, I'm not 100% certain she's not, but I'm less than ≈30% certain she is. If that helps.

Snapshot · #1277

Okay, a question. There is something that apparently some of you have guessed or figured out about Shadowcat that might be good for the rest of us to know.

Mojo, why did you ask her who she targeted Night 2? What does her answer mean? If it means I'm wrong about her or something, it'd be worth knowing, 'chathink?

Three hours to go.... where the fuck is everyone?

Young Lady · #1278

I'm just dropping in to vote. I haven't had time to re-read things as I have initially planned and will not be available for a while. I currently have no idea what to think of Shadowcat and Domino, so I'll be voting Sunfire today. If you decide to go with the two, remember the formula, and if one of them flips bad, you can hold me accountable for my vote. I'm just not entirely convinced for now. Also, please make sure Havok gets that just-in-case vote.

Barton out.

NurseWilgy · #1279

The Vision wrote:
Domino wrote:If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go.
How do you know Exodus didn't try to save himself? Gambit doesn't get to know how much his special vote is worth. It's about a 40% chance of being worth 1 or 0. If Exodus was Gambit, it made sense to put his vote on Shadowcat, who accused him with info that clearly, theoretically, in his eyes made her likely bad. He voted her, and had so many votes against him in the end that even if he had gotten lucky with his power, it may not have been enough.

There is nothing about his lynch that can suggest that he wasn't Gambit. And since you insinuated that YOU are Gambit, I'm a little surprised that you don't see this. I would have thought you would understand the mechanics of "your role" a little better.

When did I ever say I was Gambit? I never once stated who I was and if you read all of my posts, I never once claimed any role .

Snapshot · #1280

Domino wrote:I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

^

Paul Stevens · #1281

Thanks for the response, MR! Sorry for making you go back and find all that for me.

Snapshot · #1282

Again, if he was Mystique, he had nothing to lose by going balls-deep all over Shadowcat's case against him. He could have attacked at will, knowing that he was now a marked man anyway, and that even when he died, he would look civ.

He didn't respond like a baddie, let alone one who knew they would appear civ upon death.

Paul Stevens · #1283

And sorry, just noticed you thought it was weird to be called MR

Let's try that again - thanks, Mikhail!

Nicol Bolas · #1284

i agree with the viz i think exo really was gambit much 2 my dismay.........

domino n shadow keep claimin that attn is moving away from sunfire but i dont c it. i c him bein discussed alot but there aint much there 2 really backitup. domino sounds like she nose 4 sure that its the right call to vote sunfire but im not just gonna blindly follow her lead this time when she has no legit case. maybe magneto targeted sunfire today and thats why domino is pushin the idea so hard? has sunfire even posted today?

anyway im votin domino cuz shes soundin like a bad guy to me

Grand Scheme · #1285

Domino wrote:
The Vision wrote:
Domino wrote:If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go.
How do you know Exodus didn't try to save himself? Gambit doesn't get to know how much his special vote is worth. It's about a 40% chance of being worth 1 or 0. If Exodus was Gambit, it made sense to put his vote on Shadowcat, who accused him with info that clearly, theoretically, in his eyes made her likely bad. He voted her, and had so many votes against him in the end that even if he had gotten lucky with his power, it may not have been enough.

There is nothing about his lynch that can suggest that he wasn't Gambit. And since you insinuated that YOU are Gambit, I'm a little surprised that you don't see this. I would have thought you would understand the mechanics of "your role" a little better.
When did I ever say I was Gambit? I never once stated who I was and if you read all of my posts, I never once claimed any role .

But you did!!! You claimed to know for a FACT! Your inference was that you were Gambit.

I have read all of this back and forth and round and round.

Nice little set up if Shadowcat and Domino are the baddies. If we lynch Domino I am more than positive they will show as Gambit bc well that is their gambit

Brilliant hail mary move from them tbqh!

I was buying Shadowcats infodump but when Domino started hers it felt all scummy imo.

I see myself voting for Domino or Shadowcat tbh.

I agree the baddies had nothing to lose if Exodus was Mystique. If I was on that team I would have went balls to the wall defending and building a case against Shadowcat.

They are now both so desperate that they are giving no u's to anyone who does not blindly follow their "info".

I do not know who said it but I agree I doubt Epi would let 1 info dump happen let alone 2 in a row!!!

Golf · #1286

The Vision wrote:Okay, a question. There is something that apparently some of you have guessed or figured out about Shadowcat that might be good for the rest of us to know.

Mojo, why did you ask her who she targeted Night 2? What does her answer mean? If it means I'm wrong about her or something, it'd be worth knowing, 'chathink?

Three hours to go.... where the fuck is everyone?

I had a one time use gift and checked something out about shadow cat last night. In order to verify if that info I got was correct I wanted to ask her about her actions. I just picked night two to see if the info I got matched up with what I was told. It did. Unfortunately it doesn't really prove one way or the other if she is good or bad though.

Golf · #1287

Basically she is either an x-man or mystique herself.

Operator · #1288

Phoenix wrote:Thanks for the response, MR! Sorry for making you go back and find all that for me.

No problem! Happy to help.

Cable wrote: I do not know who said it but I agree I doubt Epi would let 1 info dump happen let alone 2 in a row!!!

He actually would, though. Iirc, this has happened before in his games. He didn't do anything then, and I don't think he would now, for a couple of reasons.

1) Punishing info-dumpers makes it obvious to all that they are right. Doing nothing at least allows baddies to counter it by introducing doubt about whether the info is real. (Which, by the way, if that is what happened, you guys deserve some mad props because you are doing a terrific job under awful circumtances!) Punishing the dumpers would actually help them accomplish their goal.

2) I don't know Epi super well personally, but my impression of him is that he's pretty laissez-faire. I think he basically creates his games as an awesome forum for us to play and then takes a hands-off approach to our actual gameplay. Again, I don't mean to speak for him because I don't know him well personally, but my personal impression is that punishing info dumpers doesn't fit his hosting philosophy.

Domino wrote: When did I ever say I was Gambit? I never once stated who I was and if you read all of my posts, I never once claimed any role .

I mean, not in those exact words, but c'mon.....

Deadpool wrote: domino n shadow keep claimin that attn is moving away from sunfire but i dont c it. i c him bein discussed alot but there aint much there 2 really backitup. domino sounds like she nose 4 sure that its the right call to vote sunfire but im not just gonna blindly follow her lead this time when she has no legit case. maybe magneto targeted sunfire today and thats why domino is pushin the idea so hard? has sunfire even posted today?

anyway im votin domino cuz shes soundin like a bad guy to me

I know, right?? There is no case on Sunfire, and I suspect he's been silenced as well.

Tbh Domino is looking worserer and worserer to me.

Operator · #1289

The Vision wrote: Three hours to go.... where the fuck is everyone?

Also, THIS! What do we have, 7 votes so far?? And 2-3 of those are all "Well I can't actually play, but here's my vote because I have to...."

Operator · #1290

And I wish Mojo, Havok, and Shaw would answer the questions I have asked them.
I don't get no respect

Golf · #1291

When did you ask me a question. I just read through them again and didn't see anything.

Golf · #1292

I'm putting my vote on domino for now. I can't decide on shadowcat right now and she and people who suspect her all think domino is shady so I think this is someone we can almost all agree is likely bad.

Operator · #1293

Mojo wrote:When did you ask me a question. I just read through them again and didn't see anything.

It was pretty short and my posts are long, so no worries.

At the beginning of the day you said your top suspects were Sunfire and Banshee. I asked why (about both, but I was most curious about Banshee).

Are you still looking at them and just think Domino is better for today, or have they dropped off your radar? And why, to whichever response you give?

Gunther · #1294

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:
Mojo wrote:She just answered my question. Which the host said I could ask....
I know, Mojo. I don't blame you for asking. And maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, idk.

Going into this game, I was super excited to be civ and try to do some deducing, since I haven't been in 6-7 games. I just feel like since yesterday, instead of getting to do that, we're being handed names and told "lynch these because I have info they're bad". For me it takes the fun out a bit.

I still need to catch up on several posts that I missed while I was out, but I wanted to respond to this right away. I totally agree with you about info dumps being shitty and taking away from the fun of the game. This is part of the reason why I believe these supposed info dumps are fake. Shadowcat's first "info dump" saying she knew Exodus was bad. Then Domino claiming Gambit. and now Shadowcat claiming Archangel. The last one is the most obvious lie of the bunch. Like I said before, it's easy to role claim dead roles....there's no one to call you out. Archangel hasn't removed anyone from the poll in the last 2 days, so it appears to me that Dazzler was Archangel.

Golf · #1295

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:
Mojo wrote:When did you ask me a question. I just read through them again and didn't see anything.
It was pretty short and my posts are long, so no worries.

At the beginning of the day you said your top suspects were Sunfire and Banshee. I asked why (about both, but I was most curious about Banshee).

Are you still looking at them and just think Domino is better for today, or have they dropped off your radar? And why, to whichever response you give?

Here was my response.. I guess it mostly comes down to an icky feeling I got about him when he answered about the exodus/mystique situation.

Mojo wrote: @Mikhail- You ask me "Why Banshee?" I think that his explanation about why the brotherhood would let Mystique die just sounded..... strange to me. Like he was actually explaining to us what they were thinking/saying BTSC.

Havok wrote:
Mikhail Rasputin wrote:
Mojo wrote:She just answered my question. Which the host said I could ask....
I know, Mojo. I don't blame you for asking. And maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, idk.

Going into this game, I was super excited to be civ and try to do some deducing, since I haven't been in 6-7 games. I just feel like since yesterday, instead of getting to do that, we're being handed names and told "lynch these because I have info they're bad". For me it takes the fun out a bit.
I still need to catch up on several posts that I missed while I was out, but I wanted to respond to this right away. I totally agree with you about info dumps being shitty and taking away from the fun of the game. This is part of the reason why I believe these supposed info dumps are fake. Shadowcat's first "info dump" saying she knew Exodus was bad. Then Domino claiming Gambit. and now Shadowcat claiming Archangel. The last one is the most obvious lie of the bunch. Like I said before, it's easy to role claim dead roles....there's no one to call you out. Archangel hasn't removed anyone from the poll in the last 2 days, so it appears to me that Dazzler was Archangel.

You do realize that you made it VERY easy for her to claim archangel by posting what you did earlier right? I have no idea why on earth you would have posted that!

Operator · #1296

Oh! Sorry Mojo, I missed your response. Thanks for re-responding.

Havok makes a damn good point about the Archangel claim being very unlikely. Mojo, I'm missing what he posted that made the role easy to claim. I'll try to look it up, but if i can't find it could you quote it?

Operator · #1297

Ah, found it. Pretty easily.

Idk how that would make the role easier to claim, since Havok clearly implied Archangel was dead. I would think it would make it tougher, actually.

Golf · #1298

It has to do with what I checked of shadowcat. The timing of my question of her and him dumping the archangel info to the thread. It would discredit what she says to me.... How does he know what she would appear as?

Golf · #1299

It's just kinda confusing without just spelling everything out but havok totally threw a wrench into what I was trying to get from sc. And the timing of it just stinks.

Grand Scheme · #1300

I voted Shadowcat to keep her closer to Domino. I did not like the tie between her and Havok tbqh.

I will be around in case we need to move votes about to keep things close between Shadowcat and Domino.

I am ignoring Sebastian's vote for me until he actually says or does anything to respond to. Such a strange vote and nice way to never have responsibility in any lynch. Weird voter is a weird voter.

Would you like 24 hour Day phases?