Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[iaafr]

i have a feeling im gonna be mad at tsp almost no matter who the scum is

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

[iaafr]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I disagree? No different than saying “all mafia have the same alignment” or wincon in a game with a gf

It’s certainly fucky but I wouldn’t be, like, livid about it

[Amy]

ok well if all the mech info is correct its still just amy?

who is tryharding on a day she is mech locked for fun?

this is not fun

[Amy]

i would be willing to throw myself on the sword for PoE if i was 100% convinced it wasn't LYLO

but i'm paranoid.

[iaafr]

I disagree? No different than saying “all mafia have the same alignment” or wincon in a game with a gf

It’s certainly fucky but I wouldn’t be, like, livid about it

idk man "all mafia share the same nationality" is like

pretty suggestive that one can reasonably expect there not to be a german mafia after 2 greek mafia

[nutella]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

[Amy]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

are you defending the possibility of you being a godfather lmao

[iaafr]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

oh so its more like the angle is she cant expect her peeks to always give the actual nationality

btw this is pretty funny coming from you

fypov isnt exactly 1 in amy/tutuu still the most likely world

can we kill you just to make sure we're not in godfather nutella world

[nutella]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

are you defending the possibility of you being a godfather lmao

no if theres a godfather it's wwh lol

just saying it's possible

think tutuu being mafia is more likely atp

but even more it's just you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I’m aware I have much looser definitions of things like bastardness and unacceptable angleshooting, but yeah, I wouldn’t be particularly upset about a gf-type role being in this setup

[Amy]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

are you defending the possibility of you being a godfather lmao

no if theres a godfather it's wwh lol

just saying it's possible

think tutuu being mafia is more likely atp

but even more it's just you

your stubbornness to trust purely role mechs that aren't even alignment confirmed over the actual play of people itg and the nightkills/other threadstate events is the reason i'm uncomfortable locking you town

like dude

it's pretty obviously not me

this game does not go the way it's gone if it's me

and it's baffling to me that people aren't realizing that

[nutella]

Godfather isn’t bastard lulz

There’s a fair expectation for the possible existence of a gf in any closed setup that has checks

no but tutuu is claiming to have been given info that all the mafia share the same nationality

so that info being a lie would be bastard

that's not a lie though assuming a godfather just means she gets the wrong nationality for that player

like ??

are you defending the possibility of you being a godfather lmao

no if theres a godfather it's wwh lol

just saying it's possible

think tutuu being mafia is more likely atp

but even more it's just you

your stubbornness to trust purely role mechs that aren't even alignment confirmed over the actual play of people itg and the nightkills/other threadstate events is the reason i'm uncomfortable locking you town

like dude

it's pretty obviously not me

this game does not go the way it's gone if it's me

and it's baffling to me that people aren't realizing that

i don't understand what you're referring to lol?

i've pretty explicitly been skeptical of roles that aren't necessarily town and i've pretty explicitly read people over actual play in the game

i'm not following your point

[nutella]

why would you not have made the nightkills? idgi

[nutella]

like I get why the nightkills make a w!tutuu world make a lot of sense

but idk why you should be cleared at all

[nutella]

tbh amy depending on how the night shakes out and if i'm not dead there is a nonzero chance i vote for tutuu over you so.

[nutella]

just don't want to be played for a total fool yknow

[Amy]

i've been in the PoE from the word go. rabbit's had a killboner for me since day 1

the argument seems to be that i've sat back and been complacently wolfing while watching town kill villagers

however, there is not a single point in this game at which i would have felt complacent as a wolf, because i was never mechanically cleared and if the gamestate persisted i would not have endgamed

i sure as hell never would have killed tim, who was advocating against gamestate complacency

and i more likely would have just killed the doctor and the cop - the people most likely to prevent me from getting back into the game

maintaining the PoE gamestate does not make sense from a w!Amy perspective and i hope you think that w!Amy is good enough to do things that actually advance her wincon

[Hally]

starting to lean towards going nutella first

amy posting that she wouldve just done the level 1 n2 benson n3 tutuu thing makes me wonder why the scum didnt

maybe its cause they actually have a gf

maybe their wincon was to get nutella peeked

tutuu's noted that nutella still feels the least villagery outside of mech

dizzy was scumreading nutella a bit on d1

amy thought nutella's d1 sus of amy was the worst



nutellas been lowkey pinging me all game by basically permanently having a poe of all town and seeming not very attached to reads in general


i still think the not-amy world has to involve nutella/hally; tutuu still seems towniest independent of mech rn

nut is obviously town idk what to tell you

[iaafr]

starting to lean towards going nutella first

amy posting that she wouldve just done the level 1 n2 benson n3 tutuu thing makes me wonder why the scum didnt

maybe its cause they actually have a gf

maybe their wincon was to get nutella peeked

tutuu's noted that nutella still feels the least villagery outside of mech

dizzy was scumreading nutella a bit on d1

amy thought nutella's d1 sus of amy was the worst



nutellas been lowkey pinging me all game by basically permanently having a poe of all town and seeming not very attached to reads in general


i still think the not-amy world has to involve nutella/hally; tutuu still seems towniest independent of mech rn

nut is obviously town idk what to tell you

what do you think of amys posts this night

[nutella]

hally talk to me about the tutuu tinfoil

[iaafr]

its like pretty much mechanically correct to kill into hally/nutella from everyones perspectives except theirs

so

[Hally]

starting to lean towards going nutella first

amy posting that she wouldve just done the level 1 n2 benson n3 tutuu thing makes me wonder why the scum didnt

maybe its cause they actually have a gf

maybe their wincon was to get nutella peeked

tutuu's noted that nutella still feels the least villagery outside of mech

dizzy was scumreading nutella a bit on d1

amy thought nutella's d1 sus of amy was the worst



nutellas been lowkey pinging me all game by basically permanently having a poe of all town and seeming not very attached to reads in general


i still think the not-amy world has to involve nutella/hally; tutuu still seems towniest independent of mech rn

nut is obviously town idk what to tell you

what do you think of amys posts this night

i lean town tbh

[iaafr]

i lean town tbh

then who da woof

[iaafr]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] i wish u applied the "theyre just a vt now" argument for first in the poe to nutella instead of inside benson/proto

nutellas just a vt

and solves so much more

hindsight ofc but ugh

[Hally]

hally talk to me about the tutuu tinfoil

i don’t know. it’s a tinfoil. it may be true. or it may not. i can’t see any reason to believe in it other than the fact that tutuu is still in the game. but i’ve found her very towny tbh and idg why she ever redpeeks a teammate when there is literally no reason for her to do that

[nutella]

hally talk to me about the tutuu tinfoil

i don’t know. it’s a tinfoil. it may be true. or it may not. i can’t see any reason to believe in it other than the fact that tutuu is still in the game. but i’ve found her very towny tbh and idg why she ever redpeeks a teammate when there is literally no reason for her to do that

but what you just said *is* the reason

[Hally]

its like pretty much mechanically correct to kill into hally/nutella from everyones perspectives except theirs

so

but your perspectives are wrong

i know radishes was a wolf. nut and i are clearly not w/w with him

[iaafr]

its like pretty much mechanically correct to kill into hally/nutella from everyones perspectives except theirs

so

but your perspectives are wrong

i know radishes was a wolf. nut and i are clearly not w/w with him

THEN WHO IS THE WOLF LOL

[Hally]

i lean town tbh

then who da woof

why do you expect me to know this

[nutella]

bob was lhf and like almost always going to be yeeted d2 or at least sooner rather than later. why not go ahead and grab that cred and free up the day to 1-for-1 it with a misyeet or three

[iaafr]

i lean town tbh

then who da woof

why do you expect me to know this

i expect you to have an opinion

[Hally]

this day i plan to reread D1. then i will tell you who i think makes sense as a wolf with kza/bob/radishes. screw mechs

[nutella]

i'm kinda thinking it's exactly tutuu/hally rn lol

would make a lot of mechanical sense i think

[nutella]

either that or it's just amy or just iaafr obv and yeah we probably should just resolve them first


i mean iaafr......yeah whenever i think about it or like half the time i see him post i think iaafr's just a wolf lmao

[iaafr]

regardless of what happens i plan not to vote till near eod

this is not a hammer day ever


also nutella if youre town your tunnel on me really sucks i made myself obvtown at multiple points including but not limited to the day benson was hammered

your memeing after mine felt tone deaf and awkward too

[Hally]

bob was lhf and like almost always going to be yeeted d2 or at least sooner rather than later. why not go ahead and grab that cred and free up the day to 1-for-1 it with a misyeet or three

it’s possible. i’m not saying it’s not possible. i will read and see if i think that

ftr i was so close to redirecting tutuu this night to see if she was carrying kp. only reason i didn’t is because i knew you all would go “omg hally redirected tutuu when she was supposed to peek him how wolfy”

[Hally]

i'm kinda thinking it's exactly tutuu/hally rn lol

would make a lot of mechanical sense i think

how

[nutella]

regardless of what happens i plan not to vote till near eod

this is not a hammer day ever


also nutella if youre town your tunnel on me really sucks i made myself obvtown at multiple points including but not limited to the day benson was hammered

your memeing after mine felt tone deaf and awkward too

my memeing was awkward yes im not as funny as you

but you also had tmi on benson while i (and amy too) actually had some hope the game would end

i dont think those memes were a good look sorry

[iaafr]

i had a good read on benson and i pretty much never wavered yea

scumreading me for that is so stupid when benson was like

obviously the most iaafr-like player in the game on multiple levels

[iaafr]

im STILL tilted about the benson hammer and i cant recall ever faking this level of annoyance at a ML as scum ever im not on that level

[nutella]

i'm kinda thinking it's exactly tutuu/hally rn lol

would make a lot of mechanical sense i think

how

i mean the kills do point to tutuu imo except for the potential that she was saved

and ngl benson kind of had a point that your role does make sense as a wolf role


tutuu can easily be mafia without you i think and i'm not great at the incredibly detailed mech solving but i *think* it fits

[nutella]

i had a good read on benson and i pretty much never wavered yea

scumreading me for that is so stupid when benson was like

obviously the most iaafr-like player in the game on multiple levels

wtf did he even have in common with you i dont see it

[nutella]

im STILL tilted about the benson hammer and i cant recall ever faking this level of annoyance at a ML as scum ever im not on that level

ok


fine


the other thing that i had at one point townlocked you for was the derpclear when you thought amy's joke post was an actual host night post, i didn't think that was faked but eh

[TonyStarkPrime]

the syndicate is acting up for me, stand by for a bit on actions and post edit.

WWH has died! They were Sartre, town.

Also Nutella loses 3 posts for posting after thread closed.

Y'all will have 48 hours when this starts working.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Y'all may post.

[Hally]

i redirected amy to long con

she cannot be the last wolf remaining

[nutella]

ok cool

[VOTE: iaafr] aubergine

[nutella]

i know i just conceded to some points that were in his favor but.... still the best choice today imo? part of me thinks tutuu or tutuu/hally world is more likely but iaafr has zero evidence in his favor so