Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[iaafr]

tutuu is obvtown nutella youre hard scumsiding if you think tutuu or i have been less overall villagery than amy or lc

LINKI: on the day i had extra posts due to amy and tim using powers on me, i got a PM at SOD telling me about the extra posts

I mean you're right it just took me a bit to understand the mech here but yeah this is probably just solved

but idk why the pm thing matters though the question is if she's lying about the extra posts? i thought you were corroborating it somehow lol


linki yeah LC and Amy just look caught here

you/hally seemed confused about how tutuu could know about the lost posts thing so i just corroborated that the timing of tutuu making that announcement accords with my experience of having received posts from amy

lmao i'm not questioning that people are told when they lose posts obviously??? of course you'd be told lmao i was questioning how we know shes telling the truth about it

idk how that was unclear but ok

well unless the world is exactly tutuu+lc+1 (and its not me) and theyre going for the instawin, it seems real


Linki: i love wittgenstein

[Long Con]

so if i hadnt picked lc to redirect amy to we just wouldn’t know ig

i’m glad i made that entirely random decision

so radishes was actually town? and i redirected his kp to lc? so town had three vig’s? How

The redirect worked on me then, but not now?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wtf is happening

Can someone lay this out clearly plz, I’m dealing with a considerable headache

[nutella]

if radish was really a town vig and tried to shoot LC i owe him like a year's worth of apologies holy shit he must have been screaming insanely from dvc



....ok so LC is claiming 3p and that hally's redirect doesn't work from mafia to 3p?

[Amy]

ok

everybody slow the FUCK down

here's what we know:

i publicly declared my intent to target tutuu with my post subtraction, and did in fact do so

hally is claiming to have attempted to redirect me to long con

tutuu is claiming that she was hit by my post subtraction, and that her check on hally failed

long con is claiming 3rd party(?) and that he still has all his posts

think that covers it?

6/60

[Hally]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] full claim please

alignment, role, everything

[nutella]

yeah no I don't believe this 3p claim lol I think amy and lc are just mafia

[iaafr]

Wtf is happening

Can someone lay this out clearly plz, I’m dealing with a considerable headache

hally is claiming to have redirected amy to lc

tutuu is claiming that amy's action worked on tutuu

tutuu is also claiming her peek failed, suggesting rb

hally has previously claimed her role will not work if she tries to redirect mafia to mafia

tutuu took this as mech confirmation that amy and lc are both scum


alternative theories that could work is amy is scum with an ascetic modifier (so that the redir and peek couldnt have worked regardless)

or ofc hally/tutuu are lying

[Amy]

have we received any prior indication of a scum roleblocker?

occam's razor fmpov suggests that hally's just a wolf.

7/60

[nutella]

Wtf is happening

Can someone lay this out clearly plz, I’m dealing with a considerable headache

hally is claiming to have redirected amy to lc

tutuu is claiming that amy's action worked on tutuu

tutuu is also claiming her peek failed, suggesting rb

hally has previously claimed her role will not work if she tries to redirect mafia to mafia

tutuu took this as mech confirmation that amy and lc are both scum


alternative theories that could work is amy is scum with an ascetic modifier (so that the redir and peek couldnt have worked regardless)

or ofc hally/tutuu are lying

so I think it's always just correct to vote amy here yeah?

[Hally]

yeah no I don't believe this 3p claim lol I think amy and lc are just mafia

yea my role only specifies that it fails if i redirect from mafia to mafia

so if one of long con or amy is not mafia then my redirect should have happened still

[iaafr]

Wtf is happening

Can someone lay this out clearly plz, I’m dealing with a considerable headache

hally is claiming to have redirected amy to lc

tutuu is claiming that amy's action worked on tutuu

tutuu is also claiming her peek failed, suggesting rb

hally has previously claimed her role will not work if she tries to redirect mafia to mafia

tutuu took this as mech confirmation that amy and lc are both scum


alternative theories that could work is amy is scum with an ascetic modifier (so that the redir and peek couldnt have worked regardless)

or ofc hally/tutuu are lying

so I think it's always just correct to vote amy here yeah?

im so scared of making the wrong decision im gonna wait to process this and like see how everybody else processes this fully before making a judgment

[Hally]

have we received any prior indication of a scum roleblocker?

occam's razor fmpov suggests that hally's just a wolf.

7/60

no occam’s razor is we yeet lc because he’s claiming to not be town

[tutuu]

UNLESS

hally is mafia (since i still dont have a peek on them) and they have a roleblock ON TOP of the redirect

but they are just so towny compared to amy

or like

i already told amy multiple times she's sabotaging the game for pushing me over hally

like if town!amy srsly thought im more scummier than hally last night then idk what to say

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i actually dont have 100% mech confirmation amy is always mafia here from my pov. like, technically from my personal pov hally could be wolf. and that just makes me feel bad lol

ignoring mech, hally is just so much more townier than amy imo

(i have my vote on amy btw)

[Long Con]

@Long Con full claim please

alignment, role, everything

I am neutral, survivor. I win the game if I contribute to the yeeting of two scum. I already have KZA.

I started with a vest. I have more but it's mostly in Decisions, Decisions territory, and I don't want to be modkilled.

[iaafr]

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

also, like, this is still a thing.

[tutuu]

slow the FUCK down

hally can mechanically be mafia from my pov and thats rly fucking with me so bad

[nutella]

@Long Con full claim please

alignment, role, everything

I am neutral, survivor. I win the game if I contribute to the yeeting of two scum. I already have KZA.

I started with a vest. I have more but it's mostly in Decisions, Decisions territory, and I don't want to be modkilled.

how do you reconcile this with Rule #6

[Amy]

yeah no I don't believe this 3p claim lol I think amy and lc are just mafia

yea my role only specifies that it fails if i redirect from mafia to mafia

so if one of long con or amy is not mafia then my redirect should have happened still

theoretically in this world a long con dunk proves i'm not mechanically a wolf, yeah?

obviously doesn't CLEAR me but. means i'm not a wolf getting redirected to a teammate

i just. i wonder if we have the time to be fucking around with it

god the existence of 3ps gives me hives

8?/60

[nutella]

I win the game if I contribute to the yeeting of two scum.

wait this actually checks out tho lmao

[Long Con]

@Long Con full claim please

alignment, role, everything

I am neutral, survivor. I win the game if I contribute to the yeeting of two scum. I already have KZA.

I started with a vest. I have more but it's mostly in Decisions, Decisions territory, and I don't want to be modkilled.

how do you reconcile this with Rule #6

I have it perfectly reconciled. I'll explain when the game is done.

[tutuu]

ok good lmao no more paranoia

LC cant be mafia unless he changed FROM town/mafia TO 3p which is just funny

since LC is confirmed mafia its just amy

is the correct yeet order LC>Amy?

[nutella]

slow the FUCK down

hally can mechanically be mafia from my pov and thats rly fucking with me so bad

yeah.....

[Amy]

Wtf is happening

Can someone lay this out clearly plz, I’m dealing with a considerable headache

hally is claiming to have redirected amy to lc

tutuu is claiming that amy's action worked on tutuu

tutuu is also claiming her peek failed, suggesting rb

hally has previously claimed her role will not work if she tries to redirect mafia to mafia

tutuu took this as mech confirmation that amy and lc are both scum


alternative theories that could work is amy is scum with an ascetic modifier (so that the redir and peek couldnt have worked regardless)

or ofc hally/tutuu are lying

so I think it's always just correct to vote amy here yeah?

explain how this is correct to me, rather than just voting the claimed nontown

9/60

[Hally]

@Long Con full claim please

alignment, role, everything

I am neutral, survivor. I win the game if I contribute to the yeeting of two scum. I already have KZA.

I started with a vest. I have more but it's mostly in Decisions, Decisions territory, and I don't want to be modkilled.

ok. this actually makes sense with you wanting to vote on every wagon lol

were you 3P at the start? or can you not say?

and how could my redirect onto you have failed?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

So possibilities...

Mafia have a roleblocker (or a JK...?) they used on Hally...

Mafia is Amy and LC and that’s why hally’s redirect didn’t work, which makes LC’s 3p (???) claim a gambit

Amy is ascetic...and gives/subtracts posts...and has a check.


I think 1 and 2 probably most likely? Am I missing something?

[tutuu]

OMFG DUDE THIS IS FUCKING FRUSTRATING

[Amy]

i don't think LC's mafia though, i actually buy his claim

which makes me really wanna dunk hally

10/60

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

So possibilities...

Mafia have a roleblocker (or a JK...?) they used on Hally...

Mafia is Amy and LC and that’s why hally’s redirect didn’t work, which makes LC’s 3p (???) claim a gambit

Amy is ascetic...and gives/subtracts posts...and has a check.


I think 1 and 2 probably most likely? Am I missing something?

Or Hally is lying is possible too

[nutella]

I....... think I maybe understand what LC's deal is actually


and I think it means we always yeet amy today and that could end the game.

[Long Con]

ok good lmao no more paranoia

LC cant be mafia unless he changed FROM town/mafia TO 3p which is just funny

since LC is confirmed mafia its just amy

is the correct yeet order LC>Amy?

I'm telling you this is wrong.

[Amy]

tutuu do you wanna claim country/school just so i can have peace of mind

i really don't think what the wolfteam could possibly have that makes you wary of doing so at this point, given how long everyone else has been outed and how they could have just. killed you by now anyways, if they wanted to.

11/60

linki: nutella i'm not fucking mafia how many times do we have to go over this

[nutella]

holy fuck if what I think is true than TSP really stayed true to the flavor by absolutely messing with everyone's minds

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Long Con]

holy fuck if what I think is true than TSP really stayed true to the flavor by absolutely messing with everyone's minds

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I like it already.

[tutuu]

tutuu do you wanna claim country/school just so i can have peace of mind

i really don't think what the wolfteam could possibly have that makes you wary of doing so at this point, given how long everyone else has been outed and how they could have just. killed you by now anyways, if they wanted to.

11/60

linki: nutella i'm not fucking mafia how many times do we have to go over this

13/30

sorry, i wanna play it safe

i know u are italian / classicism

i can confirm that u didnt receive a .. what was the word? check? connection? im neither italian nor classicism

[iaafr]

[Long Con]

GUYS. I'm so, so sorry. I know what happened.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I kinda really don’t want to reward a 3p claim at this point in the game tbh

Maybe I just have PTSD, maybe I’m missing some piece of mech info, idk, but I don’t really like the claim

[Amy]

like seriously [mention]nutella[/mention] think about it

after all the shit i posted last night about how from my pov there's absolutely a wolf in hally/tutuu it makes perfect sense for hally to concoct a supposed redcheck on me

i'm guessing LC being 3p was NOT part of the plan, which means i'm guessing the wolfteam was willing to 1 for 1 trade me for hally at a minimum, which i'm guessing means they're close to parity

so that's fun

12/60

linki: that's correct, tutuu. do not share a country/school with you. didn't expect an answer to the contrary, but whatever

[Hally]

I....... think I maybe understand what LC's deal is actually


and I think it means we always yeet amy today and that could end the game.

i think i get it too but idk if we can talk about it

IF lc is actually 3p radishes could still have been mafia

but why did my redirect fail then?

[Long Con]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

[Amy]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

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[Hally]

GUYS. I'm so, so sorry. I know what happened.

what?

[Amy]

ok

what the fuck

i need to reset

stepping away for a moment

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like Jesus that’s

Idk man that’s a suuuuuper convenient claim

[Long Con]

I am dead serious dude.

[Hally]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

ffs

so that means my redirect may have just failed on you????

[iaafr]

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[tutuu]

Night actions against me have an 80% chance of failing. I was thinking of it as just kills. I just looked again. I think I am the blocker.

so hally is mafia?

LC if ur 3p (and u were town before u became 3p), from ur pov, hally is mafia, right?

amy, u are correct that from your pov, hally manufactured a red check on u

sorry for jumping on ur throat immediately at day start. i got overexicted

i calmed down now. apologies!

14/30

[iaafr]