Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

yeah i'm there

hally is absolutely grasping rn and the mutual defense between them & amy is like their last hope, 3p tinfoiling is desperation showing etc

im with you rn tutuu

[Amy]

i just realized its mylo if its 4/2/1

[Hally]

this is beyond obvious

tinfoiling 3p is scumtell

hally has EVERY REASON

EVERY REASON

EVEEEEEEEEEEEERY REASON IN THE WORLD RN

TO BE PUSHING AMY RN

and yet they mildly put amy in their poe, limlply say "this is my solve ig", goes on to theorize about 3p

@iaafr i have german peek on nutella dude it cant be fake cuz no one else is german. cant be redirected. u dont need to tinfoil nutella

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME dude PLEASE

read my big scooby doo post

jokes aside i was actually fully serious and i did think about this very right

look at hally rn

how is this town!hally?

with those limp responses?

"sigh" to my big funny post about scooby doo

"sigh"

"sigh

"sigh"

could u be any more limp than that?

town!hally isnt indecisive enough to not realize Amy is extraordinarily obv from THEIR POV

hally and amy are both wolves, with HALLY having the BIGGER scum equity

PLEASE TRUST ME THAT HALLY IS MAFIA

NUTELLA U TOO

LC U WANTED MAF FLIP RIGHT? HERE DOGGY DOGGY GOOD BOY, VOTE HALLY (WHEN THE TIME COMES. NOT NOW. USE ALL 48 HOURS)

we have like 45 hours left relax

i still plan to reread D1 and see if any fits into a radishes/kza/bob world or who else could fit that

if you think town!hally isn’t indecisive you don’t know me at all because that’s like my trademark as town atp

if i was mafia i’d bus amy lol because clearly one of us is getting yeeted here. like why do you think i wouldn’t know what to do as a wolf here. if i was a wolf this would be easy

[Hally]

yeah i'm there

hally is absolutely grasping rn and the mutual defense between them & amy is like their last hope, 3p tinfoiling is desperation showing etc

im with you rn tutuu

disappointing

[iaafr]

honestly i dont want to give the impression im locked onto whatever tutuu believes

if i think a case on a world ends up looking better, i will probably follow it

i probably won't try to come up with my own case tho, unless i'm particularly feeling it

but i mean my eyes are open to things that amy and hally write rn, despite that being my poe

[Hally]

i just realized its mylo if its 4/2/1

oh

that is not good

kinda think theres is just one mafia left though but ig we will soon find out

[iaafr]

fmpov

there are 4 clears

iaafr tutuu nutella nanook

amy hally lc poe

so the wincon if youre town in poe and you suspect the clears are wrong, is to correctly figure out which clear is wrong and scumcase that person

[Hally]

i mean like

if we assume lc is real

and we assume the mechs are entirely accurate with tutuu/iaafr/nut/nanook

then like

i don’t have to case amy. she’s just mafia.and she’s the only one who can be

but i’m not entirely convinced the mechs are exactly as they seem

for one, we still have an unaccounted roleblock that stopped tutuu’s peek and did idfk what else

like idk what to do with that. i think it only potentially impacts the clear via redirect on iaafr. but the peeks on nut and nanook should be solid still

and i read rabbit as town anyway

but i also read amy as town

so this is why i speculated maybe there are only three mafia and two 3P and we can’t win until we kill them

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Fwiw usually on syndicate mafia wincon is reach parity of living players, i.e. 3/3/1 isn’t counted as parity and neither is 2/2/1



Idk tutu I’m thinking about it. Like...it makes some intuitive sense, yeah. Idk if it makes mech sense, I also don’t know how fruitful it is to look at mech stuff this game atp.

I also realllllly want to kill LC, crappy unhelpful 3p claims shouldn’t be rewarded but w/e

[Hally]

IF it’s 4/2/1

then it’s mylo and if we mislim we lose

the only correct play here in that case is [VOTE: long con] aubergine

we know this is not a mislim. he’s either 3P or mafia

and yeeting him gives us another night phase where we can hopefully get more info to find out who the mafia are

tutuu can get off another peek and i can get off another redirect. we also will narrow things by having mafia kill someone

so yeeting lc is effectively like sleeping if he’s 3P and is 100% mechanically correct

i’m not voting anyone else today

[iaafr]

Spoiler: show

yeah idk i can still buy hallys perspective as town a lot of the time if shes actually townreading amy (though this could still just be incorrect)

still not super sold on hally; find amy wolfier; find nutella wolfier than amy (keeps being just totally willing to kill town all the time, very little hesitance on being open to every single sus in the game all game, like lol, i cant stop wolfreading her, lol)

but amy was still wolfier earlygame and she just might be good at what shes done in this game as wolf idk

my independent reads inside, feel free to ignore




yeah i mean the lc vote still feels like the safest, and there is the possibility of mech tonight locking the game even more (???)



big thonk

[tutuu]

28/30

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

nobody writes this if it was never planned for any 3p to be in the game

LC going from mafia to 3p is impossible because he can just townside and out all his teammates

LC started the game as town, and then became 3p is my read

even if u think he has mafia equity (which he still does), hally is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO scummy

i will save my last 2 posts for walls.

PLEASE trust me

ive already done so many bad plays. my plan was terrible. yeeting proto and benson based on mech and ignoring day talk was terrible. yeeting alison based on mech despite her being my townread was terrible. i will need to make a few apologies post game.

i will take full blame if we lose

im already so deep i cant go back

i am doubling down

i am asking u to please sheep me despite my mistakes

PLEASE.

[nutella]

IF it’s 4/2/1

then it’s mylo and if we mislim we lose

the only correct play here in that case is [VOTE: long con] aubergine

we know this is not a mislim. he’s either 3P or mafia

and yeeting him gives us another night phase where we can hopefully get more info to find out who the mafia are

tutuu can get off another peek and i can get off another redirect. we also will narrow things by having mafia kill someone

so yeeting lc is effectively like sleeping if he’s 3P and is 100% mechanically correct

i’m not voting anyone else today

uh

you just said amy has to be mafia

why would you risk going to 3v2 when you could just get a mafia today lol

[iaafr]

man should i be tinfoiling tutuu

[Hally]

28/30

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

6) There are two factions in this game at the start.

nobody writes this if it was never planned for any 3p to be in the game

LC going from mafia to 3p is impossible because he can just townside and out all his teammates

LC started the game as town, and then became 3p is my read

even if u think he has mafia equity (which he still does), hally is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO scummy

i will save my last 2 posts for walls.

PLEASE trust me

ive already done so many bad plays. my plan was terrible. yeeting proto and benson based on mech and ignoring day talk was terrible. yeeting alison based on mech despite her being my townread was terrible. i will need to make a few apologies post game.

i will take full blame if we lose

im already so deep i cant go back

i am doubling down

i am asking u to please sheep me despite my mistakes

PLEASE.

no

we aren’t listening to you

yeeting lc is the correct play in every world

this is what we’re doing

if you think i’m a wolf peek me again after we yeet lc

i’ll try to redirect amy again and see what happens

this is the correct play

[nutella]

man should i be tinfoiling tutuu

maybe lol

[nutella]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

[Hally]

IF it’s 4/2/1

then it’s mylo and if we mislim we lose

the only correct play here in that case is [VOTE: long con] aubergine

we know this is not a mislim. he’s either 3P or mafia

and yeeting him gives us another night phase where we can hopefully get more info to find out who the mafia are

tutuu can get off another peek and i can get off another redirect. we also will narrow things by having mafia kill someone

so yeeting lc is effectively like sleeping if he’s 3P and is 100% mechanically correct

i’m not voting anyone else today

uh

you just said amy has to be mafia

why would you risk going to 3v2 when you could just get a mafia today lol

no i didn’t

i said amy is mafia if we assume all the mech is 100% accurate

i’m not 100% confident in that

i am, however, confident that yeeting lc will not yeet town

so that’s what i’m doing

[iaafr]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

are you mostly locked into a hally amy poe atp like i am

and who do you think should go first rn


my only other option is to tinfoil you/tutuu

[nutella]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

are you mostly locked into a hally amy poe atp like i am

and who do you think should go first rn


my only other option is to tinfoil you/tutuu

i think it's prob amy/hally yeah

would prob go for either at this point honestly but still lean amy being more lock wolf i think?


but that last hally post hard pushing a plan with the redirect is... smelly

[nutella]

like holy shit yeeting lc is not our wincon here. hally is just openly advocating for the scum agenda rn. wasting a yeet on townsiding 3p and using another night of fucky mech to hopefully clear their teammate. yeah no thanks

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

Assuming you believe his claim

Which uh

Like, maybe his claim is accurate, I definitely believe he needs to be on votes, but the rest of his play and refusal to cooperate is like...not a great look tbh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

[iaafr]

god u sound so fake so often i dont understand why hally is townreading you


like is that even a real thought? theyve been "fullclaimed" and locked into being somewhat accountable for their actions, how could they manipulate actions to make themselves more clear?

[nutella]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

i dont think we can 100% assume he's not a thread but he's definitely not our priority to yeet today wtf

[iaafr]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

i dont think we can 100% assume he's not a thread but he's definitely not our priority to yeet today wtf

is there a reason to you amy/lc isnt a possible scumworld

[Hally]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

are you mostly locked into a hally amy poe atp like i am

and who do you think should go first rn


my only other option is to tinfoil you/tutuu

i think it's prob amy/hally yeah

would prob go for either at this point honestly but still lean amy being more lock wolf i think?


but that last hally post hard pushing a plan with the redirect is... smelly

here is the thing

i’m actually town

i’m not convinced there are in fact two mafia left. i think it could still just be one plus one or two 3P

i know yeeting lc will not lose us this game

i know that i will be able to mechanically out amy tonight if she is the last mafia and i’m not blocked

OR that tutuu will be able to get off a peek on me

there is a potential obviously that mafia will kill tutuu and block me

but if they block me redirecting any we will know because of her role

and i think if they were ever going to kill tutuu she’d be dead by now

and tim’s security thing can still out mafia if they try, which could be game losing for them. so i expect they won’t

i think it’s likely then that we have SOME reliable mech info after this night that could actually lock the game

you don’t trust me obviously and this is fine. but i know that i’m town and that i can potentially provide crucial information. so i urge you to actually give me that chance

[nutella]

god u sound so fake so often i dont understand why hally is townreading you


like is that even a real thought? theyve been "fullclaimed" and locked into being somewhat accountable for their actions, how could they manipulate actions to make themselves more clear?

i mean. how does them claiming to redirect their teammate ever result in clearing anything

????

[nutella]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

i dont think we can 100% assume he's not a thread but he's definitely not our priority to yeet today wtf

is there a reason to you amy/lc isnt a possible scumworld

lc's claim is believable

that's really it, i mean it could be amy/lc and lc cooked up a wildly plausible and plausibly wild claim that fits with his earlier stuff in the thread

but im p sure he's just what he says


in any case amy is a wolf

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

i dont think we can 100% assume he's not a thread but he's definitely not our priority to yeet today wtf

I mean today is the only day we really can kill him? If it’s possible for him to scum side and there’s two alive, he just does tomorrow and we lose

How is this not something that occurs to you ???

[nutella]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

are you mostly locked into a hally amy poe atp like i am

and who do you think should go first rn


my only other option is to tinfoil you/tutuu

i think it's prob amy/hally yeah

would prob go for either at this point honestly but still lean amy being more lock wolf i think?


but that last hally post hard pushing a plan with the redirect is... smelly

here is the thing

i’m actually town

i’m not convinced there are in fact two mafia left. i think it could still just be one plus one or two 3P

i know yeeting lc will not lose us this game

i know that i will be able to mechanically out amy tonight if she is the last mafia and i’m not blocked

OR that tutuu will be able to get off a peek on me

there is a potential obviously that mafia will kill tutuu and block me

but if they block me redirecting any we will know because of her role

and i think if they were ever going to kill tutuu she’d be dead by now

and tim’s security thing can still out mafia if they try, which could be game losing for them. so i expect they won’t

i think it’s likely then that we have SOME reliable mech info after this night that could actually lock the game

you don’t trust me obviously and this is fine. but i know that i’m town and that i can potentially provide crucial information. so i urge you to actually give me that chance

okay

but what about

we just yeet amy today

and THEN IF THE GAME DOESNT JUST FUCKING END WE CAN TRY TO CLEAR YOU

how does that sound

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also what rabbit said, LC isn’t even guaranteed to be 3p


Though I do tend to think he prooooobably is 3p, just not convinced he can’t win with scum

[nutella]

I don’t super love Nutella blindly believing the 3p claim as entirely accurate tbh

There’s no tangible reason to think LC is actually pro town

i dont think we can 100% assume he's not a thread but he's definitely not our priority to yeet today wtf

I mean today is the only day we really can kill him? If it’s possible for him to scum side and there’s two alive, he just does tomorrow and we lose

How is this not something that occurs to you ???

mmmmf maybe

[Hally]

i still dont see why we need to yeet lc as he can potentially win with town

but if we're not 100% sure on amy ig whatever

are you mostly locked into a hally amy poe atp like i am

and who do you think should go first rn


my only other option is to tinfoil you/tutuu

i think it's prob amy/hally yeah

would prob go for either at this point honestly but still lean amy being more lock wolf i think?


but that last hally post hard pushing a plan with the redirect is... smelly

here is the thing

i’m actually town

i’m not convinced there are in fact two mafia left. i think it could still just be one plus one or two 3P

i know yeeting lc will not lose us this game

i know that i will be able to mechanically out amy tonight if she is the last mafia and i’m not blocked

OR that tutuu will be able to get off a peek on me

there is a potential obviously that mafia will kill tutuu and block me

but if they block me redirecting any we will know because of her role

and i think if they were ever going to kill tutuu she’d be dead by now

and tim’s security thing can still out mafia if they try, which could be game losing for them. so i expect they won’t

i think it’s likely then that we have SOME reliable mech info after this night that could actually lock the game

you don’t trust me obviously and this is fine. but i know that i’m town and that i can potentially provide crucial information. so i urge you to actually give me that chance

okay

but what about

we just yeet amy today

and THEN IF THE GAME DOESNT JUST FUCKING END WE CAN TRY TO CLEAR YOU

how does that sound

why would we do that when we could just yeet lc and then i can mechanically out amy or get peeked myself

how is that bad

[tutuu]

29/30

Another scooby doo revelation:

Amy isn't the ascetic. It's Hally.

nobody ever tried to mechanically interact with hally, that's why we didn't know about it.

colin tried to track them, but hally made colin target wwh, who targeted dizzy, so colin got "dizzy" result. he never visited hally, ergo, never got roleblocked

this reinforces why i havent been killed. in addition to tim's invention. in addition to my reads/plan being bad. hally was never worried about me peeking them.

that's why mafia didnt roleblock me on the night i peeked nutella. they dont have an active roleblock. they have a passive roleblock.

HALLY REPEATELY ASKED TO GET PEEKED. I CAN SHOW U EVIDENCE

Why would you do that Hally we could’ve cleared both you and LC

shrug

i assumes tutuu was checking in the clear group and would hard clear me because ppl were telling her to do that

i was post capped so i couldn’t coordinate anything and this seemed like a good idea

I gave tutuu a check pool in the POE

This was very meh tbh

it wouldn’t have been meh if i had redirected colins kill to wwh and outed him as mafia

seems like he’s just town though

It’s meh because we should be going for clears rn, not hero redirect kill chances lol


And yeh Colin is confirmed in any world of one mafia alive, that’s great, having you and LC confirmed would’ve been better

there will be other nights for that

colin can track me again next night if he wants

or tutuu can peek me idc

we have time

if proto flips town should i peek in dizzy-amy-iaafr-benson or should i peek hally to clear her + lc? (and nut??? but i forgot again)

up to you

i’m fine being checked it will make my life easier

Why would you do that Hally we could’ve cleared both you and LC

shrug

i assumes tutuu was checking in the clear group and would hard clear me because ppl were telling her to do that

i was post capped so i couldn’t coordinate anything and this seemed like a good idea

this is because HALLY is the MAFIA ASCETIC REDIRECTOR

from a game design pov it also makes sense to make the redirector ascetic if ur making them mafia

like, it comes way too annoying to calculate interactions if they aren't, right?

but even if that is a moot point, hear this:

TOWN HAS A COP AND 2 TRACKERS (tutuu alison and colin)

there is every reason in the world to give mafia some protection. not fucking godfathers, but something more tangible.

i have 1 post remaining.

i will use it as a one final magnum opus, after leaving u guys some time to discuss

[Hally]

bruh

i’m asking to be peeked so i can finally exit the fucking poe because i’m town

it’s not complicated

[iaafr]

i mean unfortunately fmpov nutella godfather feels roughly as likely as that

[iaafr]

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

just gonna make another earnest "this is the gamestate" post

not trying to talk down to you, just laying out how i think this will play out.

there's a good chance we default to you, because you have scum equity (no reason from our points of view to believe you arent just mafia pretending to be 3p), amd because we're not entirely confident on a nontown read outside of you

if you want to have your chance at achieving the wincon you've claimed, you have to make some sort of scumcase on who it is. there is extremely likely at least 1 in {amy/hally}. if that's wrong, that's on you to figure out too, if you're actually playing towards your wincon

but if your wincon is rly to yeet 2 mafia, why havent you been more actively involved? youve just hammered anybody town decides on without regards for whether you actually think that's mafia. if your wincon was really to straight up townside and find scum, why do i feel like you haven't scumhunted at all? makes me doubt your claim.

[iaafr]

lc/amy makes more "occams razor" sense than anything to me rn, and lc still has more equity regardless

and there is no harm from town pov to seeing the flip, there's no one way extra night of actions can mess up the game "more" unless the non-lc scum is literally arso or something (light role madness btw)

40/60

[iaafr]

even if you believe the claim by gut, i cannot see any significant upside to not seeing the flip anyway

it would have to be an irrational fear town somehow messes it up more in f5

which i mean i guess could be the world

if its actually hally/amy and killing lc here loses us the game somehow, and tutuu is vindicated for wanting hally immediately, i'll look stupid for saying this

but idk im not seeing it

[iaafr]

in my eyes its extremely likely lc just came up with the whole claim and excuse for hammering post hoc because he wanted to hammer as scum for fun

[iaafr]

honestly multiple 3p wouldnt be that crazy a thing to think about from v!hally pov

except for the whole rule 6 thing

which conversely makes me think a legit 0 3p world with lc just red is more likely

[iaafr]

i think tutuu just kinda got trolled by the wording, which was not intended to hint at "town=>3p conversion" mechanics

if there actually are town=>3p conversion mechanics ima give a hearty loltsp tutuugoat postgame

[Hally]

to be clear i don’t think conversion exists in the sense of like a cult

i think that there is at most two 3P

i also think that any 3P started off as town on D0 but they were able to switch to 3P after D0. and i don’t think the 3P are known to each other if there is more than one but that’s just speculation. i imagine if there are multiple they have separate wincons

town deciding to become 3P is consistent with tony saying there’s only two factions at the start and also the presence of 3P itg

i kinda believe lc that he is actually 3P but either way he should 100% be the flip today

running out of posts rip

[nutella]

i actually had a slightly weirder theory on lc's details but having thought more that idea was probably just crazy lol

[iaafr]

why troll town in a 17er with an option to become 3p who has to townside anyway

what kind of a role is that

i just cant buy it idk

[tutuu]

30/30

I'm sorry. I can't hold myself. I just can't resist posting. I can't. I'm sorry. I can't.

Amy had TMI that Hally's redirect makes them interact with both targets (this is my personal opinion)

i've seen redirectors that visit with both halves of the ability and i've seen redirectors that only visit with one

hally would probably have to clarify which they are

trying to figure out what the fuck's going on

question for the peanut gallery while i do so: why did WWH die and not Nanook

Click on the little arrow on this post to see it ITT. Amy posted this 2 minutes after I assumed Hally only visits/interact the first person in her redirecting action. She responded for Hally before Hally even elaborated it themself to me.

Like the amount of certainty / lack of confusion Amy expressed at Hally visiting both Amy and Long Con is because (imo) they share a Mafia Chat, so Amy knew everything about Hallys role.

I am hard tunneling and confbiasing, but I'm too deep to stop. "hally would probably have to clarify which they are" is like, Amy realizing she's speaking which way too much certainty. Like the "tone / vibratinos" between these 2 lines are off (in my personal subjective opinion), as I'm imagining Amy verbally speak her post IRL.


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From Hally's pov LC is CONFIRMED NOT MAFIA if they assume that 1 maf remaining. Their actions would have failed in redirecting Maf!MR shot on LC. Hally KNOWS that LC is 3P or w/w with ANOTHER living Mafia atm (Amy).

Hally KNOWS they are pushing CONFIRMED NOT MAFIA and yet THEY DO it anyway

This is different from you pushing LC, [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] and [mention]iaafr[/mention]. You wanna kill LC cuz u think he has Mafia equity. Hally regarldess of their alignment has TMI that LC CANNOT PHYSICALLY BE MAFIA. Please think about it. It's a fact, am I wrong? Hally knows that LC if Mafia ONLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY if Amy is Mafia. Please think about everything and u will see this.

If there is 1 living Mafia (so MR was mafia), Hally redirect MR -> LC fails on LC if LC is mafia (Hally can't target 2 wolves)
If there is 2 living Mafia (so MR was town), Hally redirect MR -> LC succeed always.

Hally has TMI that LC isn't Mafia, or, they are purposely choosing to yeet him over his other Mafia Teammate, and Hally KNOWS its Amy.

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Please notice how both Amy and Hally immediately agreed / didn't protest my theory that MR was town. Both of them just went along with it with 0 protests.

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Again, for the 10000th time. Town!Amy knows Hally is Mafia. Town!Hally knows Amy is Mafia. The fact that they're not thunderdoming is telling.

Like, from Town!Amy's pov, I guess she can think LC is the last Mafia remaining. But she's not doing jack. But it's different from town!Hally's pov.

Town!Hally literally knows that Amy is Mafia and LC is 3p or that both are Mafia and they are pushing LC. <<<<<<<< THIS IS NOT A SUBJECTIVE READ. ITS AN OBJECTIVE FACT. If u dont agree please read all 30 of my posts today carefully. I'm pretty sure I've proven it.

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ADDITIONALLY:

Flipping Hally first is mechanically best. They are Ascetic Redirector. I can't peek them. And they can fuck up my peek.

Yeet Hally and I can peek Amy in peace, unless she (or LC or whoever is the wolf) decides to kill me. So like, even if it's Hally + LC, it's still lock win.

^^^^^^^^^^^
this is important

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iaafr, i dont think we're living in a 0 3p world. nutella knows tsp well. she also is speculating alot about it. trust her meta readign the host

i also dont feel great about alignment conversion but it is what it is

even if the mafia team is amy + lc, hally's actions are inexusable / inexplainable. they have no reason not to be tunneling Amy here.

if some other of u are 3p (multiple 3p) then i guess ... no matter how much i post u guys will play towards ur wincon

but like, Amy and Hally are the Mafia

[VOTE: Hally] aubergine

I will not blame u fwiw if we lose cuz u yeet LC and somehow that makes us lose. I've made plenty mistakes.

I will also take full blame if u guys listen to me and Hally flips town.

But like, yeah.

Hally is Mafia and Amy is Mafia and I have done everything in my power to prove it.

Good luck

linki:

iaafr, Long Con was ABSOLUTELY town -> 3p

its confirmed

pls trust

also uhhh one last thing i wanted to add, but forgot

oh right, multiple 3p

there might be 3p's who have anti-town wincon

i dont have a green peek on nutella, i have a non-mafia peek on nutella. nutella might be 3p

iaafr might be 3p. nanook might be 3p.

if we yeet LC we risk going into 2v2v1 (2 town 2 mafia 1 neutral) and then its just fucked

LC is gonna townside. [mention]Long Con[/mention] please dont be mad at iaafr and nanook pushing u. i accept u for who u are, im not judging u like them. help us win, please.

please lets not risk kingmaker 3p situation or something. yeet the mafia

Please!

[Hally]

i think either he’s actually mafia with amy

or he can also scum side and win with mafia but just is omitting that part of his wincon

[Hally]

tutuu idk what to tell you you’re just wrong and making like a ton of assumptions about stuff

we aren’t yeeting me today. it’s not correct even if you think i’m lock scum. and i’m town, so it’s even less correct

this is once again a theory i can’t disprove because it’s just you being like “i know all this for a fact” with no evidence when you unfortunately actually know nothing

[Hally]

anyway this is my last post pretty sure

yeet lc

this is 100% the correct play here

i’m town and if you follow tutuu of this cliff there’s an extremely good chance we lose. don’t blame me in that case because it won’t be my fault

be smart. yeet the person we know is not town and give me and tutuu another night to get some info

gl